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Duane Johnson  
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 More options Sep 5 2011, 10:50 am
From: Duane Johnson <duane.john...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 09:50:16 -0500
Local: Mon, Sep 5 2011 10:50 am
Subject: Children at PS1?

What are people's experiences with bringing their kids to PS1?
Encouraged/unwelcome?

I'd love for my daughter to grow up thinking maker culture is "normal".
 Just curious what people's thoughts are if I brought her along.

Duane


 
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Dan Krol  
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 More options Sep 5 2011, 11:09 am
From: Dan Krol <orbliv...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 10:09:16 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PS1-Public] Children at PS1?
I bet we'd want a differently worded waiver.

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Tim Saylor  
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From: Tim Saylor <tim.say...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 13:04:24 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PS1-Public] Children at PS1?

We've actually explored this for a potential member who's a minor.  It
shouldn't be a problem as long as she's 13 and you sign the waiver a her
guardian.
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Robert Lee  
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 More options Sep 5 2011, 6:00 pm
From: Robert Lee <rob...@cyntrum.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:00:38 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PS1-Public] Children at PS1?
My 14 year old daughter visited the space a couple of times. It was
positive. She's a doctor who fan, so having a Tardis is a plus.


 
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Rick Melton  
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 More options Sep 6 2011, 9:26 am
From: Rick Melton <futhar...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 06:26:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 6 2011 9:26 am
Subject: Re: Children at PS1?
I've got a 10yr old and twin 5 yr olds... I've been looking forward to
bringing my 10 yr old in when she gets a bit older and have been
meaning to ask this very question.  She's getting into Lego League big
time this year and I'd love to encourage that mindset through PS:1.

While bringing in the 5yr olds wouldn't be the best of ideas; would a
10 yr old under (extreme) supervision be allowed or even welcome?

I too would love to have the maker mentality and philosophy be
"normal" for her.

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Anne Petersen  
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 More options Sep 6 2011, 12:56 pm
From: Anne Petersen <annepeter...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 6 2011 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: Children at PS1?

The official policy has been that every child needs a waiver signed in their
name and that parents need to be present if they're under 13. The unofficial
practice has been that since the safest areas for kids are the front lobby
and the classroom (and definitely not the loft nor workshop), younger kids
should probably stick to those parts, but in practice that part falls under
parent discretion. You know your kids best (or should).

We've had kids as young as six participate in classes that involved
soldering, but of course that was done entirely from the safety of their
parents' (or grandparents') laps.

- A.


 
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sblaszak  
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 More options Sep 7 2011, 3:30 pm
From: sblaszak <sblas...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:30:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 7 2011 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: Children at PS1?
I think the only caveat to all this is that any parent bringing a kid
into the space needs to be aware of possible crude language that might
occur in their presence.  Personally, I always try to censor myself
when minors are present but nobody is perfect and many of us are quite
used to using profanity freely.  Up until recently, we had a tongue-in-
cheek, unofficial, space motto painted in big red letter across one of
the walls that said "Just Fucking Do It!".

-Shawn

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Rick  
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 More options Sep 7 2011, 3:48 pm
From: Rick <futhar...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 14:48:53 -0500
Local: Wed, Sep 7 2011 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: [PS1-Public] Re: Children at PS1?

Shawn,

That makes sense, personally I'm not one of those parents that thinks their
kids have NEVER heard a swear in their life but if it comes out of her mouth
and I hear it... oh boy! lol

That being said it's something to note and good to be aware of, thanks!

BTW it was good to meet you last night!

Rick


 
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Duane  
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 More options Sep 8 2011, 7:46 pm
From: Duane <duane.john...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:46:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: Children at PS1?
Thanks, all, for your thoughtful comments. I'm glad PS:1 is trying to
go the "open but wise" route for children. I agree parents know their
kids best and should supervise responsibly. It's cool to see other
parents here, too :)

Duane

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jason gessner  
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 More options Sep 9 2011, 12:40 pm
From: jason gessner <jason.gess...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:40:52 -0500
Local: Fri, Sep 9 2011 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: [PS1-Public] Re: Children at PS1?

Hey there.  I'm a lurker on your list from up at the milwaukee makerspace.
We are currently having a discussion about children, liability and general
liability language, too.  This discussion has been great to follow.

Would you be able to share your liability waiver language with us?  We are
curious about how other spaces are dealing with these issues.

Thanks!

-jason
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Anne Petersen  
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 More options Sep 9 2011, 1:42 pm
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:42:39 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [PS1-Public] Re: Children at PS1?

Funny: we've been getting lots of requests for this lately. Attached. Enjoy!

- Anne

  liability (1).pdf
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jason gessner  
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 More options Sep 9 2011, 4:04 pm
From: jason gessner <jason.gess...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:04:37 -0500
Local: Fri, Sep 9 2011 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: [PS1-Public] Re: Children at PS1?

Thanks, Anne!

I like how simple this release is.  Did you all write it or did you work
with a lawyer on it?  It looks too sensible to have had a lawyer involved.
:)

Do you also have anything written up about what visitors of members may or
may not do at the space?

-jason
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 More options Sep 9 2011, 4:13 pm
From: Nathan Witt <wit...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:13:03 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PS1-Public] Re: Children at PS1?

Both actually! One of our members - Nicolle Neulist - was an attorney when
we got started and was instrumental in helping us with legalese.  She
practiced bankruptcy law at the time, but has since leveled up to a career
as a sysadmin. You may recognize her in certain circles as @rogueclown.

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 More options Sep 9 2011, 4:24 pm
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Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 15:24:15 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PS1-Public] Re: Children at PS1?

Didn't Anne or someone make an addition for our one under 18 member?

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Anne Petersen  
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 More options Sep 9 2011, 4:57 pm
From: Anne Petersen <annepeter...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:57:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Sep 9 2011 4:57 pm
Subject: Re: [PS1-Public] Re: Children at PS1?

They just don't check the "I certify I'm over 18" box and the
parent/guardian has to add their signature at the bottom, labeled as such.


 
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