I've notified Jim and talked to Dan.
We have a place in the Evanston 4th of July parade.
Dan says the Blues Mobile will have some new motors before then.
Can we get the motorcycle working too.
Any outrageous suggestions?
Uniforms blues bros hats and sun glasses?
Someone on the Motorcycle chasing the Blues Mobile?
Some other styling? Tweeting?
We'll probably want the PS:1 Banner, A PPPRS banner and A Evanston Mini Maker Faire banner.
We also want some people handing out fliers along the route.
The parade time is 2 pm, good the late risers among us. Staging I would imagine is probably an hour earlier.
Jim when can we plan this out and come up with the number of feet we need and kind of what it may look like.
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jim when can we plan this out and come up with the number of feet we need and kind of what it may look like.
How long is the parade, how long will the batteries last?
That's up to the drivers to work out. I'll find out more from the MC asap.
If we run out, it would be funny to push them, fake a breakdown or something at the grandstand.
Maybe have the banners draped on my car and throw them a rope.
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jim when can we plan this out and come up with the number of feet we need and kind of what it may look like.
> How long is the parade, how long will the batteries last?
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> That's up to the drivers to work out.
> I'll find out more from the MC asap.
> If we run out, it would be funny to push them, fake a breakdown or
> something at the grandstand.
> Maybe have the banners draped on my car and throw them a rope.
> On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com>
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> > How long is the parade, how long will the batteries last?
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> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's up to the drivers to work out.
> I'll find out more from the MC asap.
> If we run out, it would be funny to push them, fake a breakdown or something at the grandstand.
> Maybe have the banners draped on my car and throw them a rope.
> On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Jim when can we plan this out and come up with the number of feet we need and kind of what it may look like.
> > How long is the parade, how long will the batteries last?
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> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's up to the drivers to work out.
> I'll find out more from the MC asap.
> If we run out, it would be funny to push them, fake a breakdown or something at the grandstand.
> Maybe have the banners draped on my car and throw them a rope.
> On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Just in case it wasn't clear: Steve is looking for PS:One folks to
volunteer to participate in the parade. It doesn't have to be just
Power Wheels people.
On Jun 29, 2:50 pm, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
> lol, I happen to know how to stub my toe on them.
> On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Joe Kerman wrote:
> > I happen to know of a way to tow them ;)
> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I'll find out more from the MC asap.
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> > Maybe have the banners draped on my car and throw them a rope.
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> > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Just in case it wasn't clear: Steve is looking for PS:One folks to
> volunteer to participate in the parade. It doesn't have to be just
> Power Wheels people.
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>> lol, I happen to know how to stub my toe on them.
>> On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Joe Kerman wrote:
>>> I happen to know of a way to tow them ;)
>>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> That's up to the drivers to work out.
>>> I'll find out more from the MC asap.
>>> If we run out, it would be funny to push them, fake a breakdown or something at the grandstand.
>>> Maybe have the banners draped on my car and throw them a rope.
>>> On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Steven Finkelman <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Jim when can we plan this out and come up with the number of feet we need and kind of what it may look like.
>>>> How long is the parade, how long will the batteries last?
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I have a convertible which is pretty much SOP for parades. We need some hot women sitting on the back chucking candy to kids. Now where do we get hot women?
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On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Finkeldude <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Patrick,
> Needed:
> Speaker for car top
> Music on iPod
> PPPRS banner, 2012.
> Someone to sew pole pockets into the banner.
> Considering the forecast, any woman will be hot. Men for that matter too.
> Remember, there will be women in the crowd, too. <wink>.
> I've rigged the flex for banners and had them printed, show you tonight.
> Steve
> On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Patrick Callahan <pmcall...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a convertible which is pretty much SOP for parades. We need some hot
> women sitting on the back chucking candy to kids. Now where do we get hot
> women?
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> 2 powered speakers:
> 15W guitar/keyboard
> 50W stage monitor.
> not exactly the right thing, but better than nothing.
> both need 110v.
> I also have a 1kw / 2kw peek 12v to 110 ac converter.
> I don't think I will be in the parade, but if someone wants to borrow
> them I will bring it down tonight.
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Finkeldude <finkeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Patrick,
>> Needed:
>> Speaker for car top
>> Music on iPod
>> PPPRS banner, 2012.
>> Someone to sew pole pockets into the banner.
>> Considering the forecast, any woman will be hot. Men for that matter too.
>> Remember, there will be women in the crowd, too. <wink>.
>> I've rigged the flex for banners and had them printed, show you tonight.
>> Steve
>> On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Patrick Callahan <pmcall...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a convertible which is pretty much SOP for parades. We need some hot
>> women sitting on the back chucking candy to kids. Now where do we get hot
>> women?
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Very uncool, Patrick, both for the sexist notion of the parade version of a
'booth babe' and the implication that no women in the space are attractive.
You managed to hit the 'jerk' button from both sides, pretty impressive.
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Patrick Callahan <pmcall...@gmail.com>wrote:
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Laurie: You are very predictable in how you will take things. Its not
like "guy driving convertible while girl sits on back waving" isn't
embedded in the consciousness of every American for the past 60 years,
and if you say "parade" there are plenty of us who think of that pattern
of parade. Floats, showmanship and banners and such. Usually its for
"Important People" so for us, a group of equals that may not be the
best. But who cares Patrick has a convertible. Make up some titles of
ridiculousness and run with it.
You could always have taken "Now where do we get the hot women" as a coy
way of asking who wants to volunteer to ride in the convertible, but you
take it as an insult. You are responsible for exactly half of the
communication process.
Whoever rides in the convertible needs the pneumatic gun to shoot candy
into the crowd, whatever gender they may be.
> Very uncool, Patrick, both for the sexist notion of the parade version
> of a 'booth babe' and the implication that no women in the space are
> attractive. You managed to hit the 'jerk' button from both sides,
> pretty impressive.
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Patrick Callahan <pmcall...@gmail.com
> <mailto:pmcall...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> some hot women sitting on the back chucking candy to kids. Now
> where do we get hot women?
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This thread, and for that matter this mailing list, isn't for debating
sexism. Pointing out instances like this is fine to make sure readers
understand the acceptable norms on the list and in our community, but
extended debate that is poised to start here should happen off the list.
Also, I personally think the ideal way to handle this situation would have
been to email Patrick off list to point out the problem, and come back on
the list to make a statement once it's resolved. This mailing list goes to
a lot of people outside of or less involved in our community so I'm extra
sensitive to off-topic discussion here. I'm willing to be persuaded on
this part though.
(yes, I see the irony in sending an off-topic email to the public list
complaining about off-topic emails on the public list)
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rhys Rhaven <r...@rhavenindustrys.com>wrote:
> Laurie: You are very predictable in how you will take things. Its not
> like "guy driving convertible while girl sits on back waving" isn't
> embedded in the consciousness of every American for the past 60 years, and
> if you say "parade" there are plenty of us who think of that pattern of
> parade. Floats, showmanship and banners and such. Usually its for
> "Important People" so for us, a group of equals that may not be the best.
> But who cares Patrick has a convertible. Make up some titles of
> ridiculousness and run with it.
> You could always have taken "Now where do we get the hot women" as a coy
> way of asking who wants to volunteer to ride in the convertible, but you
> take it as an insult. You are responsible for exactly half of the
> communication process.
> Whoever rides in the convertible needs the pneumatic gun to shoot candy
> into the crowd, whatever gender they may be.
> On 07/03/2012 11:51 AM, Laurie J. Rich wrote:
> Very uncool, Patrick, both for the sexist notion of the parade version of
> a 'booth babe' and the implication that no women in the space are
> attractive. You managed to hit the 'jerk' button from both sides, pretty
> impressive.
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Patrick Callahan <pmcall...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> I have a convertible which is pretty much SOP for parades. We need some
>> hot women sitting on the back chucking candy to kids. Now where do we get
>> hot women?
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Rhys: Just because something happened historically doesn't make it right.
I could point out any number of (deeply offensive) images that are part of
the American unconscious. The 'hot women are here for my entertainment'
trope is sexist, and I am under no obligation to let that obvious
objectification go by.
If Patrick had said 'hot people' or 'attractive members', I could've
happily taken it as a coy way of asking for volunteers. The specificity of
'women' in that statement made it clear exactly what he was referring to.
Words mean things, and so does context.
Not to mention: intention is not magic, and does not absolve someone when
they've made a poor choice. We are responsible for our unintended
consequences as well as our intentional ones. In this case, whether
intentional or not, the consequence here is that he made a sexist statement
with additional insulting implications.
That being said, I am all for a pneumatic candy cannon.
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rhys Rhaven <r...@rhavenindustrys.com>wrote:
> Laurie: You are very predictable in how you will take things. Its not
> like "guy driving convertible while girl sits on back waving" isn't
> embedded in the consciousness of every American for the past 60 years, and
> if you say "parade" there are plenty of us who think of that pattern of
> parade. Floats, showmanship and banners and such. Usually its for
> "Important People" so for us, a group of equals that may not be the best.
> But who cares Patrick has a convertible. Make up some titles of
> ridiculousness and run with it.
> You could always have taken "Now where do we get the hot women" as a coy
> way of asking who wants to volunteer to ride in the convertible, but you
> take it as an insult. You are responsible for exactly half of the
> communication process.
> Whoever rides in the convertible needs the pneumatic gun to shoot candy
> into the crowd, whatever gender they may be.
> On 07/03/2012 11:51 AM, Laurie J. Rich wrote:
> Very uncool, Patrick, both for the sexist notion of the parade version of
> a 'booth babe' and the implication that no women in the space are
> attractive. You managed to hit the 'jerk' button from both sides, pretty
> impressive.
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Patrick Callahan <pmcall...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> I have a convertible which is pretty much SOP for parades. We need some
>> hot women sitting on the back chucking candy to kids. Now where do we get
>> hot women?
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Tim: My last email sent must've crossed with this one. I'll take it
off-list now.
I'd like to discuss with you the second part, about dealing with this on vs
off list. I can't come to the meeting tonight but I'll email you to figure
out a time we can discuss it.
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tim Saylor <tim.say...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This thread, and for that matter this mailing list, isn't for debating
> sexism. Pointing out instances like this is fine to make sure readers
> understand the acceptable norms on the list and in our community, but
> extended debate that is poised to start here should happen off the list.
> Also, I personally think the ideal way to handle this situation would have
> been to email Patrick off list to point out the problem, and come back on
> the list to make a statement once it's resolved. This mailing list goes to
> a lot of people outside of or less involved in our community so I'm extra
> sensitive to off-topic discussion here. I'm willing to be persuaded on
> this part though.
> (yes, I see the irony in sending an off-topic email to the public list
> complaining about off-topic emails on the public list)
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rhys Rhaven <r...@rhavenindustrys.com>wrote:
>> Laurie: You are very predictable in how you will take things. Its not
>> like "guy driving convertible while girl sits on back waving" isn't
>> embedded in the consciousness of every American for the past 60 years, and
>> if you say "parade" there are plenty of us who think of that pattern of
>> parade. Floats, showmanship and banners and such. Usually its for
>> "Important People" so for us, a group of equals that may not be the best.
>> But who cares Patrick has a convertible. Make up some titles of
>> ridiculousness and run with it.
>> You could always have taken "Now where do we get the hot women" as a coy
>> way of asking who wants to volunteer to ride in the convertible, but you
>> take it as an insult. You are responsible for exactly half of the
>> communication process.
>> Whoever rides in the convertible needs the pneumatic gun to shoot candy
>> into the crowd, whatever gender they may be.
>> On 07/03/2012 11:51 AM, Laurie J. Rich wrote:
>> Very uncool, Patrick, both for the sexist notion of the parade version of
>> a 'booth babe' and the implication that no women in the space are
>> attractive. You managed to hit the 'jerk' button from both sides, pretty
>> impressive.
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Patrick Callahan <pmcall...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> I have a convertible which is pretty much SOP for parades. We need some
>>> hot women sitting on the back chucking candy to kids. Now where do we get
>>> hot women?
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> Laurie: You are very predictable in how you will take things. Its not like "guy driving convertible while girl sits on back waving" isn't embedded in the consciousness of every American for the past 60 years, and if you say "parade" there are plenty of us who think of that pattern of parade. Floats, showmanship and banners and such. Usually its for "Important People" so for us, a group of equals that may not be the best. But who cares Patrick has a convertible. Make up some titles of ridiculousness and run with it.
> You could always have taken "Now where do we get the hot women" as a coy way of asking who wants to volunteer to ride in the convertible, but you take it as an insult. You are responsible for exactly half of the communication process.
> Whoever rides in the convertible needs the pneumatic gun to shoot candy into the crowd, whatever gender they may be.
> On 07/03/2012 11:51 AM, Laurie J. Rich wrote:
>> Very uncool, Patrick, both for the sexist notion of the parade version of a 'booth babe' and the implication that no women in the space are attractive. You managed to hit the 'jerk' button from both sides, pretty impressive.
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Patrick Callahan <pmcall...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a convertible which is pretty much SOP for parades. We need some hot women sitting on the back chucking candy to kids. Now where do we get hot women?
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> Rhys: Just because something happened historically doesn't make it right. I could point out any number of (deeply offensive) images that are part of the American unconscious. The 'hot women are here for my entertainment' trope is sexist, and I am under no obligation to let that obvious objectification go by.
> If Patrick had said 'hot people' or 'attractive members', I could've happily taken it as a coy way of asking for volunteers. The specificity of 'women' in that statement made it clear exactly what he was referring to. Words mean things, and so does context.
> Not to mention: intention is not magic, and does not absolve someone when they've made a poor choice. We are responsible for our unintended consequences as well as our intentional ones. In this case, whether intentional or not, the consequence here is that he made a sexist statement with additional insulting implications.
> That being said, I am all for a pneumatic candy cannon.
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rhys Rhaven <r...@rhavenindustrys.com> wrote:
> Laurie: You are very predictable in how you will take things. Its not like "guy driving convertible while girl sits on back waving" isn't embedded in the consciousness of every American for the past 60 years, and if you say "parade" there are plenty of us who think of that pattern of parade. Floats, showmanship and banners and such. Usually its for "Important People" so for us, a group of equals that may not be the best. But who cares Patrick has a convertible. Make up some titles of ridiculousness and run with it.
> You could always have taken "Now where do we get the hot women" as a coy way of asking who wants to volunteer to ride in the convertible, but you take it as an insult. You are responsible for exactly half of the communication process.
> Whoever rides in the convertible needs the pneumatic gun to shoot candy into the crowd, whatever gender they may be.
> On 07/03/2012 11:51 AM, Laurie J. Rich wrote:
>> Very uncool, Patrick, both for the sexist notion of the parade version of a 'booth babe' and the implication that no women in the space are attractive. You managed to hit the 'jerk' button from both sides, pretty impressive.
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Patrick Callahan <pmcall...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a convertible which is pretty much SOP for parades. We need some hot women sitting on the back chucking candy to kids. Now where do we get hot women?
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