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Waleed  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 2:30 am
From: Waleed <wal...@ninua.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:30:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 2:30 am
Subject: Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?
I've been suspecting issues with blogger.com feeds for a while, but
today I confirmed it.

1. I subscribed to a test blog on blogspot.com and received a
confirmation from the hub.
2. To double check, I went to the subscription details page on
pubsubhubbub.appspot.com and entered the callback and topic, and it
confirmed that the subscription is valid.
3. I wrote a new test post on the blog and waited for the notification
to come. It didn't.

    I repeated the test a few times and checked things on my side, and
as far as I can tell, Blogger notifications are not being sent. Anyone
else noticing this?


 
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Julien Genestoux  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 5:54 am
From: Julien Genestoux <julien.genest...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:54:17 +0100
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

We (http://superfeedr.com) have seen issues with blogger feeds as well, but
I just did a bunch of tests
and I couldn't reproduce :(
What's the feed url that you used?

thanks


 
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Waleed Abdulla  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 11:11 am
From: Waleed Abdulla <wal...@ninua.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:11:49 -0700
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 11:11 am
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Thanks, Julien.
    The blog I'm testing with is: http://ninuatest.blogspot.com/
    I'm subscribing to it's "self" feed:
http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6999034805426555507/posts/default

    I gave you permission to write new posts to that test blog, in case the
needed arises.

Waleed

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Andy Dennie  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 11:39 am
From: Andy Dennie <goo...@adennie.e4ward.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:39:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 11:39 am
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

It was working for me earlier this week, but today I'm not getting updates
from my blogspot test blog (
http://fizzbuzztest.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default), at least not as
promptly as I used to. I'll have to see if they arrive later.

-Andy


 
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Andy Dennie  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 11:44 am
From: Andy Dennie <goo...@adennie.e4ward.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:44:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 11:44 am
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

... which is really too bad if it doesn't resolve itself, since that was
the only mechanism I had for generating on-demand test notifications.


 
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Tamer Yousef  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 12:06 pm
From: Tamer Yousef <tamer.you...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:06:15 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

I just scanned some blog spot specific blogs and I'm getting pings, but as
you can tell the issue with this kind of technology is there is no way to
measure, you have to find specific instances where there is a new blog post
without notification sent, on a large scale list, it's hard to catch issues
unless you have a backup pull strategy.

Waleed: I subscribed to your blog, can you add a test post?

-Tamer

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Andy Dennie  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 12:30 pm
From: Andy Dennie <andy.den...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:30:50 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Sorry, I goofed in my earlier test; my test posts did arrive promptly; I
was just looking in the wrong place.


 
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Waleed Abdulla  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 1:23 pm
From: Waleed Abdulla <wal...@ninua.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:23:38 -0700
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Tamer,
    I published a few new test posts. Again, no notifications. I do get
notifications from blogs I subscribed to in the past, though (i.e. I see
pings from pubsubhubbub.appspot.com in my logs). But I'm also getting
reports from users who say that their feeds in our app are not updating.

Andy,
    I subscribed to your feed. Can you please publish something?

Regards,
Waleed


 
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Andy Dennie  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 1:27 pm
From: Andy Dennie <andy.den...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:27:50 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

OK, I just posted about 10 seconds ago.
-Andy


 
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Waleed Abdulla  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 1:31 pm
From: Waleed Abdulla <wal...@ninua.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:31:01 -0700
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Thanks, Andy. No notification yet!  Did you get one?


 
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Andy Dennie  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 1:33 pm
From: Andy Dennie <andy.den...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:33:38 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Yes, I got it. Strange. I'm using Superfeedr, are you? If not, then it's
likely your hub.


 
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Waleed Abdulla  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 1:38 pm
From: Waleed Abdulla <wal...@ninua.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:38:08 -0700
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

I'm using the hub declared in the feed: http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/

Could it an issue in Google's hub?


 
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Tamer Yousef  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 1:40 pm
From: Tamer Yousef <tamer.you...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:40:59 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

I have not got any notifications from Waleed's test blog, that's after
waiting for almost 15 minutes after post submission.
I thought it may be the foreign characters in the blog title is causing
some bad behavior, so I created another test blog
http://ninuatestenglish.blogspot.com/ and sent a new post, but no
notifications either...

I agree that it's either a delay or some malfunction on
the Google appengine "AppEngine-Google".

-Tamer


 
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Julien Genestoux  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 1:45 pm
From: Julien Genestoux <julien.genest...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:45:53 +0100
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

I haven't had time to dive into this, but if Andy got an update thru the
Superfeedr hub, it's likely that we've been notified just fine by
Google....

I'll triple check a bit later.
Thanks,

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Waleed Abdulla  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 1:53 pm
From: Waleed Abdulla <wal...@ninua.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:53:38 -0700
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Thanks, Tamer.
    I'm glad I wasn't imagining this. This might've been going on for
weeks, but I didn't notice it because we have a backup pulling strategy
that marks hub subscriptions as "failed to deliver" and switches feeds to
old fashioned polling.

Julien,
    Do you depend on PSHB pings only, or do you also pull?

Waleed

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Julien Genestoux  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 4:58 pm
From: Julien Genestoux <julien.genest...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:58:16 +0100
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

So, we did get a ping from the Google Hub for that feed... now, I can't
tell how long after the publish time it happend.

At Superfeedr, we do take pings into account, and we reduce our polling
period when we know we're getting pings. For non Pubsubhubbub feeds, we
fetch them once every 15 mins, for PubSubHubbub enabled feeds, we can
sometimes go up to once every 12 hours.

This feed was on the once every 12hrs schedule... but we have more systems
than just PuSubHubbub to detect updates in feeds, so we may have detected
the update from another feed (we have a feed graph that links graphs that
should update at the same time).

Thanks


 
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Waleed Abdulla  
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 More options Mar 22 2012, 6:49 pm
From: Waleed Abdulla <wal...@ninua.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:49:28 -0700
Local: Thurs, Mar 22 2012 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Thank you, Julian.
    So if I understand correctly, your test is not conclusive because you
have other sources that might've sent the ping. Is that accurate? If so,
then we have two independent tests (mine and Tamer's) that confirm there is
something wrong with Blogger.com's updates.

    I'm CCing Brett. Is there a proper channel to report this issue other
than this list?

Waleed

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Julien Genestoux  
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 More options Mar 25 2012, 11:19 am
From: Julien Genestoux <julien.genest...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:19:45 +0200
Local: Sun, Mar 25 2012 11:19 am
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Waleed,

Exactly, the test is not conclusive in a sense that I can't confirm that we
got the notification from Blogger. However, I can't confirm it's broken.

Let's hope that Brett's answer comes quickly :)

Ju


 
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YC  
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 More options Mar 26 2012, 3:52 am
From: YC <yeouch...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:52:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?
Hi there, I'm not sure is this a solution but it's works fine for me.

1.) Use http://ninuatest.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default instead of
http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6999034805426555507/posts/default
2.) After subscribe your blog at pubsubhubbub.appspot.com, go to
https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/publish and publish
http://ninuatest.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default manually. You will
receive a notification with few feeds inside.

Hope this method works fine for you too.


 
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Waleed Abdulla  
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 More options Mar 26 2012, 6:19 pm
From: Waleed Abdulla <wal...@ninua.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:19:33 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 26 2012 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Re: Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Thanks YC,
    As far as I know, the specs state that we should subscribe to the
"self" link if it's in the feed. And that's what I do, and it's always
worked until recently.

    I tried the hub suggestion (using the self link) and it worked and I
got a notification immediately. So I guess it shows that the hub itself is
working, and the problem is on Blogger.com's side.

Thanks,
Waleed


 
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 More options Jun 15 2012, 8:21 am
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 05:21:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jun 15 2012 8:21 am
Subject: Re: Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Hi Folks,

Well, glad we found this thread as we're experiencing the same problems. We
have tried with 3 different blogger blogs. For one of those we get
notifications but for the other two we do not.

• The subscription appears to be ok (subscription is found and was
verified).Checking on https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/subscribe brings up
https://skitch.com/edleadesign/eby5r/hub-subscription-details-http-ed...
• We tried to subscribe to "self" url and blog "alias" - neither worked
(for two of the blogs)
    - http://edsdemoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
    - http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2698432277089135744/posts/default
• We tried to publish these topics but they were not found
on (https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/publish)

Has this issue been acknowledged? Has anyone found the cause or a fix for
it?

Thanks!
Ed.


 
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Roman  
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 More options Jun 15 2012, 8:28 am
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:28:52 +0200
Local: Fri, Jun 15 2012 8:28 am
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Re: Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Hi Ed,

There is a known problem in the hub that prevents notifications to go
through if all subscribers for a topic have used async verification mode.

Please try subscribing with hub.verify=sync.

Roman.


 
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 More options Jun 15 2012, 8:51 am
From: ED209 <edleades...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 05:51:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jun 15 2012 8:51 am
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Re: Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

Thanks for the quick reply Roman, but we already are subscribing with
hub.verify=sync

anything else we could try? Any way to debug?


 
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Roman  
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 More options Jun 15 2012, 8:54 am
From: Roman <rom...@google.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:54:00 +0200
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Re: Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

I'll take a look.

Roman.


 
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 More options Jun 15 2012, 10:20 am
From: Roman <rom...@google.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:20:35 +0200
Local: Fri, Jun 15 2012 10:20 am
Subject: Re: [pubsubhubbub] Re: Anyone else not receiving notifications from Blogger.com?

I figured out what's going on.

The subscriptions in the hub have an asynchronous component even when you
are subscribing with hub.verify=sync. Until the asynchronous part finishes,
no updates on the topic will be distributed to the subscribers.

There is a huge backlog of asynchronous processing right now and I estimate
that it would take two weeks to process it. I nuked the backlog and see
that the hub has resumed processing submissions.

Things should work for you once you resubscribe (with hub.verify=sync).
Could you verify?

Roman.


 
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