I'm less interested in this project's applicability for PLOTS
(unless this is the avenue by which we're getting PLOTS maps
included in Google's imagery), and more interested in the model they
are using to solicit community engagement.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 21:40, Gregory Foster <gfos...@entersection.org> wrote: > Google has a project which is encouraging budding cartographers from around > the world to contribute information to the Google Maps & Earth product line: > http://www.google.com/mapmaker > http://support.google.com/mapmaker/?hl=en
> I'm less interested in this project's applicability for PLOTS (unless this > is the avenue by which we're getting PLOTS maps included in Google's > imagery), and more interested in the model they are using to solicit > community engagement.
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 21:40, Gregory Foster <gfos...@entersection.org> > wrote: > > Google has a project which is encouraging budding cartographers from > around > > the world to contribute information to the Google Maps & Earth product > line: > > http://www.google.com/mapmaker > > http://support.google.com/mapmaker/?hl=en
> > I'm less interested in this project's applicability for PLOTS (unless > this > > is the avenue by which we're getting PLOTS maps included in Google's > > imagery), and more interested in the model they are using to solicit > > community engagement.
> > In particular, take a look at their "Google MapUp Kit" which provides > > guidance on hosting a local Map Maker meetup including slideshow > > presentations, handouts, scheduling instructions, etc.:
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 21:40, Gregory Foster <gfos...@entersection.org> >> wrote: >> > Google has a project which is encouraging budding cartographers from >> around >> > the world to contribute information to the Google Maps & Earth product >> line: >> > http://www.google.com/mapmaker >> > http://support.google.com/mapmaker/?hl=en
>> > I'm less interested in this project's applicability for PLOTS (unless >> this >> > is the avenue by which we're getting PLOTS maps included in Google's >> > imagery), and more interested in the model they are using to solicit >> > community engagement.
>> > In particular, take a look at their "Google MapUp Kit" which provides >> > guidance on hosting a local Map Maker meetup including slideshow >> > presentations, handouts, scheduling instructions, etc.:
I will just come out and say it. Google Map Maker is a wholesale rip off of the OSM concept and all of its ideas. Dont get me wrong, its a nice ripoff, it looks a lot nicer than OSM etc, but it is incompatible with the ideas and principles of the Public Laborator as I understand them.
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 21:40, Gregory Foster <gfos...@entersection.org> >> wrote: >> > Google has a project which is encouraging budding cartographers from >> > around >> > the world to contribute information to the Google Maps & Earth product >> > line: >> > http://www.google.com/mapmaker >> > http://support.google.com/mapmaker/?hl=en
>> > I'm less interested in this project's applicability for PLOTS (unless >> > this >> > is the avenue by which we're getting PLOTS maps included in Google's >> > imagery), and more interested in the model they are using to solicit >> > community engagement.
>> > In particular, take a look at their "Google MapUp Kit" which provides >> > guidance on hosting a local Map Maker meetup including slideshow >> > presentations, handouts, scheduling instructions, etc.:
I will just come out and say it. Google Map Maker is a wholesale rip
off of the OSM concept and all of its ideas. Dont get me wrong, its a
nice ripoff, it looks a lot nicer than OSM etc, but it is incompatible
with the ideas and principles of the Public Laborator as I understand
them.
Jeff
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Liz Barry <ebarry@gmail.com> wrote:
Google has a project which is encouraging budding cartographers from
around
the world to contribute information to the Google Maps & Earth product
line:
http://www.google.com/mapmakerhttp://support.google.com/mapmaker/?hl=en
I'm less interested in this project's applicability for PLOTS (unless
this
is the avenue by which we're getting PLOTS maps included in Google's
imagery), and more interested in the model they are using to solicit
community engagement.
In particular, take a look at their "Google MapUp Kit" which provides
guidance on hosting a local Map Maker meetup including slideshow
presentations, handouts, scheduling instructions, etc.:
http://support.google.com/mapmaker/bin/topic.py?hl=en&topic=30130&parent=1094247&ctx=topic
gf
Mapmaker is to me a good example how you can turn a powerful idea like osm, remove the good in it, add some marketing blah blah blah, repackage it, and sell it in a way nicer way than the original product.
This is something every Open Movement should learn, the package is important too. They should spend more time on embellishing it, and not only adding new awesome features.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 21:49, Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com> wrote: > I will just come out and say it. Google Map Maker is a wholesale rip > off of the OSM concept and all of its ideas. Dont get me wrong, its a > nice ripoff, it looks a lot nicer than OSM etc, but it is incompatible > with the ideas and principles of the Public Laborator as I understand > them.
> Jeff
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Liz Barry <eba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> +1
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Simone Cortesi <sim...@cortesi.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 21:40, Gregory Foster <gfos...@entersection.org> >>> wrote: >>> > Google has a project which is encouraging budding cartographers from >>> > around >>> > the world to contribute information to the Google Maps & Earth product >>> > line: >>> > http://www.google.com/mapmaker >>> > http://support.google.com/mapmaker/?hl=en
>>> > I'm less interested in this project's applicability for PLOTS (unless >>> > this >>> > is the avenue by which we're getting PLOTS maps included in Google's >>> > imagery), and more interested in the model they are using to solicit >>> > community engagement.
>>> > In particular, take a look at their "Google MapUp Kit" which provides >>> > guidance on hosting a local Map Maker meetup including slideshow >>> > presentations, handouts, scheduling instructions, etc.:
> I will just come out and say it. Google Map Maker is a wholesale rip > off of the OSM concept and all of its ideas. Dont get me wrong, its a > nice ripoff, it looks a lot nicer than OSM etc, but it is incompatible > with the ideas and principles of the Public Laborator as I understand > them.
> Jeff
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Liz Barry <eba...@gmail.com> <eba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Simone Cortesi <sim...@cortesi.com> <sim...@cortesi.com> wrote:
> I'm less interested in this project's applicability for PLOTS (unless > this > is the avenue by which we're getting PLOTS maps included in Google's > imagery), and more interested in the model they are using to solicit > community engagement.
Hey, Thanks Jeff for the links. very very interesting. Simone, I think it's worth thinking about the package... but as a lay user, I love openstreetmap's package, it's a wiki based design, as I understand it, and I think this is why it works. Google's package is attracting users to want the package, instead of to open it.
any idea why Israel is not available in google's map-maker? I'm very curious of the politics behind this... talking about the package, here is the google machine answer for a user that asked why he can't see israel:
Hi, Thank you for your interest in Israel. While this country is not yet open for
> I think there are just a lot of justifiably frayed nerves since Google's > started pushing MapMaker. Here is some interesting commentary on the > subject:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Gregory Foster <gfos...@entersection.org>wrote:
>> Wow, seem to have struck a nerve :D
>> gf
>> On 3/22/12 4:49 PM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
>> I will just come out and say it. Google Map Maker is a wholesale rip >> off of the OSM concept and all of its ideas. Dont get me wrong, its a >> nice ripoff, it looks a lot nicer than OSM etc, but it is incompatible >> with the ideas and principles of the Public Laborator as I understand >> them.
>> Jeff
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Liz Barry <eba...@gmail.com> <eba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Simone Cortesi <sim...@cortesi.com> <sim...@cortesi.com> wrote:
>> I'm less interested in this project's applicability for PLOTS (unless >> this >> is the avenue by which we're getting PLOTS maps included in Google's >> imagery), and more interested in the model they are using to solicit >> community engagement.
