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Michael Weinberg  
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 More options May 7, 6:11 pm
From: "Michael Weinberg" <mich...@personaltelco.net>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 15:11:59 -0700
Local: Wed, May 7 2008 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: [ptp-general] Re: No IRC at Red and Black

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Daniel Johnson <tekno...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  >  IRC does not require any logins nor is it secure on the server side,
>  >  so ssh does not make it any more secure. When using IRC you should
>  >  never transmit any secret/secure information. If the end point is
>  >  insecure, adding security in between your computer and the end point
>  >  really doesn't enhance security.

>  Freenode requires logins to send direct user to user messages.  Not
>  very secure, but much more secure when done from a system where I know
>  only the ISP, and admins of the freenode network can view raw traffic.

True enough. IRC is so completely insecure (both in terms of
connection and ability to verify who is on the other side of the chat)
that freenode's direct message security and the notion that anything
on IRC should be considered at all safe strikes me as
dangerous/irresponsible Internet usage.

--
Michael Weinberg
President
Personal Telco Project, Inc.


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