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Subject: Re: [PTGui] (pre)viewer OSX mountain lion?
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Hi Tico,

On the contrary, it's not overdone, it's simple and easy.

Let's clear up a few thing first:

Wine is not an emulator!

Check here: http://www.winehq.org/about/

Wine (originally an acronym for "Wine Is Not an Emulator") is a
> compatibility layer capable of running Windows applications on several
> POSIX-compliant operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX, & BSD. Instead
> of simulating internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator,
> Wine translates Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly, eliminating
> the performance and memory penalties of other methods and allowing you to
> cleanly integrate Windows applications into your desktop.


I never liked OS emulators and I wouldn't install one myself for it's space
and memory penalties.

But Wine is something else, once installed, you just click on those .exe
applications from Windows and most of them (not all) will run without any
issues whatsoever. I must say though, that I don't use Wine to run complex
or heavy duty windows applications on Mac, but for everything else, it's
fast and simple.

I originally installed Wine on my MBP running Snow Leopard to benefit from
Smartblend. It integrates very well with PTGui and blends much better than
PTGui native blender (although a bit slower). Then I learned that most
other pano related scripts/aplications I had from Windows would also run
very well using Wine, such as FSPViewer and Deval VR Player. This is
crucial since there is nothing comparable in the Mac world that could
replace this two wonderful apps for local playing of equirectangular files
that PTGui spits out.

After upgrading to Mountain Lion, the only change to Wine is the need to
install Xquartz (http://xquartz.macosforge.org/landing/) because Mountain
Lion doesn't come with X11 anymore and Xquartz replaces it.

Mac users don't need to be scared of those pesky .EXE applications anymore
;-)

My best regards
Os melhores cumprimentos

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Carlos Chegado

I you're into Panoramas, you should consider attending the Iceland 2013 -
International Panoramic Photography Conference, June 10-16, 2013.




On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Tico Russell <russellt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> thank you for your clear answer.
> good to hear that other people have experienced the same.
> I will definitely consider your solution.
> maybe a bit overdone, installing a completely different operating system
> simulator for such a humble task.
> Food for programmers?
>
> Op 2 okt. 2012, om 18:57 heeft Carlos Chegado Lists <c...@carloschegado.com>
> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Harry,
>
> That was one of the first issues I had since moving from Windows to Mac
> some time ago.
> After extensive search, nothing pleased me, so I managed to use the same
> windows tools FSPViewer and Deval VR Player to view my equirectangular
> files locally without any conversion on my Mac!
> You need to install Wine first, but works well and plays these files much
> quicker and better than having to go trough all the steps of processing the
> images trough KRPano or whatever viewer you want to use.
>
> I currently use Wine + FSP Viewer to view my Equirectangular files on a
> MBP running Mountain Lion ;-)
> Deval VR Player works the exact same way too, but I find FSP Viewer
> Quicker in daily use.
>
> My best regards
> Os melhores cumprimentos
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Carlos Chegado
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:52 PM, HarryD <russellt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello,
>>
>> Can you tell me what program to choice for (pre)view local
>> equirectangular panorama's (tif(16bit) and jpg) on a Macbook Air with OSX
>> mountain lion?
>> I've tried PanoGLViewOSX but it loads slow I can't find a proper way to
>> zoom in and out.
>> I've also tried CubicNavigator but I can't find a way to view local files
>> and can't reach the authors web site.
>> I've tried Panini but (I think) it has no fullscreen, and it doesn't load
>> previews directly from PTGui.
>> How do you present your panorama's with an Macbook?
>> Sorry if this question is asked before, I've searched but didn't find a
>> proper topical answer.
>>
>>
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Hi Tico,<div><br></div><div>On the contrary, it&#39;s not overdone, it&#39;=
s simple and easy.</div><div><br></div><div>Let&#39;s clear up a few thing =
first:</div><div><br></div><div>Wine is not an emulator!</div><div><br></di=
v>
<div>Check here:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.winehq.org/about/">http://www.w=
inehq.org/about/</a></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:r=
gb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<span style=3D"font-family:&#39;bitstream vera sans&#39;,verdana,arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Wine (or=
iginally an acronym for &quot;Wine Is Not an Emulator&quot;) is a compatibi=
lity layer capable of running Windows applications on several POSIX-complia=
nt operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX, &amp; BSD. Instead of simulat=
ing internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator, Wine transla=
tes Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly, eliminating the performa=
nce and memory penalties of other methods and allowing you to cleanly integ=
rate Windows applications into your desktop.</span></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>I never liked OS emulators and I wouldn&#39;t install o=
ne myself for it&#39;s space and memory penalties.</div><div><br></div><div=
>But Wine is something else, once installed, you just click on those .exe a=
pplications from Windows and most of them (not all) will run without any is=
sues whatsoever. I must say though, that I don&#39;t use Wine to run comple=
x or heavy duty windows applications on Mac, but for everything else, it&#3=
9;s fast and simple.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I originally installed Wine on my MBP running Snow Leop=
ard to benefit from Smartblend. It integrates very well with PTGui and blen=
ds much better than PTGui native blender (although a bit slower). Then I le=
arned that most other pano related scripts/aplications I had from Windows w=
ould also run very well using Wine, such as FSPViewer and Deval VR Player. =
This is crucial since there is nothing comparable in the Mac world that cou=
ld replace this two wonderful apps for local playing of equirectangular fil=
es that PTGui spits out.</div>
<div><br></div><div>After upgrading to Mountain Lion, the only change to Wi=
ne is the need to install Xquartz (<a href=3D"http://xquartz.macosforge.org=
/landing/">http://xquartz.macosforge.org/landing/</a>) because Mountain Lio=
n doesn&#39;t come with X11 anymore and Xquartz replaces it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Mac users don&#39;t need to be scared of those pesky .E=
XE applications anymore ;-)<br clear=3D"all"><p>My best regards<br>Os melho=
res cumprimentos</p><p>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p><p><span style=3D"border-collapse:=
collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><=
/span></p>
<p>Carlos Chegado</p><p>I you&#39;re into Panoramas, you should consider at=
tending the Iceland 2013 - International Panoramic Photography Conference, =
June 10-16, 2013.</p><p></p><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Tico Rus=
sell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:russellt...@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">russellt...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div>Hi Carlos,</div><div><br></div><di=
v>thank you for your clear answer.</div><div>good to hear that other people=
 have experienced the same.</div><div>I will definitely consider your solut=
ion.</div>
<div>maybe a bit overdone, installing a completely different operating syst=
em simulator for such a humble task.</div><div>Food for programmers?</div><=
div><br></div><div><div>Op 2 okt. 2012, om 18:57 heeft Carlos Chegado Lists=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:c...@carloschegado.com" target=3D"_blank">cc@carlosche=
gado.com</a>&gt; het volgende geschreven:</div>
<div><div class=3D"h5"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Harry,<div><br></div><=
div>That was one of the first issues I had since moving from Windows to Mac=
 some time ago.</div><div>After extensive search, nothing pleased me, so I =
managed to use the same windows tools FSPViewer and Deval VR Player to view=
 my equirectangular files locally without any conversion on my Mac!</div>

<div>You need to install Wine first, but works well and plays these files m=
uch quicker and better than having to go trough all the steps of processing=
 the images trough KRPano or whatever viewer you want to use.</div><div>

<br></div><div>I currently use Wine + FSP Viewer to view my Equirectangular=
 files on a MBP running Mountain Lion ;-)</div><div>Deval VR Player works t=
he exact same way too, but I find FSP Viewer Quicker in daily use.</div>

<div><br></div><div><p>My best regards<br>Os melhores cumprimentos</p><p>~~=
~~~~~~~~~~~~</p><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,3=
4,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"></span><br></div><p>Carl=
os Chegado</p>
<div><br></div><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:52 PM, HarryD <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:russellt...@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">russellt...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">

<div>hello,</div><div><br></div><div>Can you tell me what program to choice=
 for (pre)view local equirectangular panorama&#39;s (tif(16bit) and jpg) on=
 a Macbook Air with OSX mountain lion?</div><div>I&#39;ve tried PanoGLViewO=
SX but it loads slow I can&#39;t find a proper way to zoom in and out.</div=
>

<div>I&#39;ve also tried CubicNavigator but I can&#39;t find a way to view =
local files and can&#39;t reach the authors web site.</div><div>I&#39;ve tr=
ied Panini but (I think) it has no fullscreen, and it doesn&#39;t load prev=
iews directly from PTGui.</div>

<div>How do you present your panorama&#39;s with an Macbook?</div><div>Sorr=
y if this question is asked before, I&#39;ve searched but didn&#39;t find a=
 proper topical answer.</div><span><font color=3D"#888888"><div>
<br></div><div><br></div>

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