10.8 (Mountain Lion) and PTgui?

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Joergen Geerds

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Jul 24, 2012, 12:43:37 AM7/24/12
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I've got to ask: will PTgui work in ML, or is it not yet tested?
according to this http://roaringapps.com/apps:table/tags/_p/index_tags/_p/p/2 Ptgiu 9.04 (way outdated) doesn't work, but we're now at 9.13...

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Jul 24, 2012, 7:28:43 PM7/24/12
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Joergen,

Very good question and quite timely since it's expected to be released tomorrow or Wednesday. Joost, whats up? If there are currently issues there is no way I upgrading until my key stitcher is working on the Mountain :)

Robert

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Jul 25, 2012, 4:18:25 AM7/25/12
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Hi Robert & Joergen,

In my own tests PTGui 9.1.3 runs just fine on 10.8 Mountain Lion. I
haven't tested earlier versions but I assume these should work fine as
well since there have not been any structural changes in the software on
system level. Of course, any issues found (in the latest version) will
be fixed as soon as possible.

Since PTGui has not been signed and approved by our Apple overlords, you
will need to change a security setting, for instructions see for example
this page:

http://macservicesact.com.au/mountain-lion-security/

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Riefa Istamar

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Jul 25, 2012, 4:26:43 AM7/25/12
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Ah, glad to read this! Thank you for the heads up on the security settings.


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Wim Koornneef

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Jul 26, 2012, 4:54:09 PM7/26/12
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After upgrading from OSX Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion I encountered an incompatibility issue with Smartblend.
For Smartblend you need to have X11 installed but unfortunately X11 is no longer supported in ML.

Luckily there is an alternative that is supported by Apple, OpenSource XQuartz (70 mb)


After installing and a restart of the computer Smartblend is running fine in ML.

Wim





Op dinsdag 24 juli 2012 06:43:37 UTC+2 schreef Joergen Geerds het volgende:

Willy Kaemena GM

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Jul 26, 2012, 4:57:33 PM7/26/12
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Thank you Wim !

anything to configure after installation??

Willy



Kevin Wilton

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Jul 26, 2012, 5:32:30 PM7/26/12
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Don’t you just love it when that happens, Windows 7 no longer supports a twain! They don’t ask, they don’t even tell you before you upgrade that something you rely on is not only not supported, it just won’t work at all…

 

Hate it when that happens.

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Erik Krause

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Jul 26, 2012, 5:47:37 PM7/26/12
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Am 26.07.2012 23:32, schrieb Kevin Wilton:
> Don�t you just love it when that happens, Windows 7 no longer supports a
> twain! They don�t ask, they don�t even tell you before you upgrade that
> something you rely on is not only not supported, it just won�t work at all�

On windows 7 x64 I still have working twain support in 32 bit programs
like IrfanView or photoshop CS 6 32 bit version. There isn't any in the
64 bit version. The funny thing is, that the twain driver just launches
vuescan which is a 64bit program...

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Kevin Wilton

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Jul 26, 2012, 5:49:33 PM7/26/12
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You are right, I am in 64bit.

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Am 26.07.2012 23:32, schrieb Kevin Wilton:
> Don't you just love it when that happens, Windows 7 no longer supports
> a twain! They don't ask, they don't even tell you before you upgrade
> that something you rely on is not only not supported, it just won't
> work at all.

On windows 7 x64 I still have working twain support in 32 bit programs like
IrfanView or photoshop CS 6 32 bit version. There isn't any in the
64 bit version. The funny thing is, that the twain driver just launches
vuescan which is a 64bit program...

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Kevin Wilton

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Jul 26, 2012, 5:50:29 PM7/26/12
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After Silverfast, Vuescan is an insult...

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Am 26.07.2012 23:32, schrieb Kevin Wilton:
> Don't you just love it when that happens, Windows 7 no longer supports
> a twain! They don't ask, they don't even tell you before you upgrade
> that something you rely on is not only not supported, it just won't
> work at all.

On windows 7 x64 I still have working twain support in 32 bit programs like
IrfanView or photoshop CS 6 32 bit version. There isn't any in the
64 bit version. The funny thing is, that the twain driver just launches
vuescan which is a 64bit program...

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Ellis Vener

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Jul 27, 2012, 9:18:01 AM7/27/12
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For the non geeks, what will switching to OpenSource X Quartz mean in relation to  the rest of my OS X eco-structure and applications? 

Joergen Geerds

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Jul 27, 2012, 9:42:38 AM7/27/12
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On Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:54:09 PM UTC-4, Wim Koornneef wrote:
After upgrading from OSX Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion I encountered an incompatibility issue with Smartblend.
For Smartblend you need to have X11 installed but unfortunately X11 is no longer supported in ML.

Luckily there is an alternative that is supported by Apple, OpenSource XQuartz (70 mb)


After installing and a restart of the computer Smartblend is running fine in ML.

I am somewhat confused, and I am not a smartblend user, but I thought smartblend doesn't work at all under OS X, and that people need to run the PC version, in wine or other emulators. in addition, my ML installer gave me the option to install X11, so I assume it is still supported. (didn't test if smartblend would have actually worked) 

Carlos Chegado Lists

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Jul 27, 2012, 12:16:58 PM7/27/12
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Joergen,

I am somewhat confused, and I am not a smartblend user

Then you don't know what you're missing, but you're missing a lot!
Smartblend was so far the best blender available for PTGui and also for Autopano, although as per Alexandre's Jenny presentation at NYC 2012, the last Autopano versions goes one step further than Smartblend and looks to me the finally a blender that can beat Smartblend!

I have been a Smartblend user since it's inception. I know that way back then, many Mac users turned their backs onto this little marvel because it was PC only. But I run Smartblend everyday on my MacBook Pro via Wine and I don't care. It works also on Lion and Mountain Lion, so, no worries, it's a seamless process, runs in the back ground and you won't even notice that you're using software designed for PC only. It's a setup once and forget thing!


My best regards
Os melhores cumprimentos

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Carlos Chegado


Joergen Geerds

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Jul 27, 2012, 2:43:05 PM7/27/12
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Just because I am not using smartblend, please, can you point out some of the features? how long to blend a 15x7.5k equirect? I assume it's 360 and Z&N aware? can it blend a 40x20k (or much larger) in 16 bit (in reasonable time)? Is it really better than photoshop blending (which I consider pretty much perfect)?

Federico Infanti

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Jul 27, 2012, 3:50:42 PM7/27/12
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Please, can you post here your tutorial for the facebook-free people?

thanks.

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Erik Krause

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Jul 27, 2012, 5:01:45 PM7/27/12
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Am 27.07.2012 20:43, schrieb Joergen Geerds:
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> Just because I am not using smartblend, please, can you point out some
> of the features? how long to blend a 15x7.5k equirect? I assume it's 360
> and Z&N aware? can it blend a 40x20k (or much larger) in 16 bit (in
> reasonable time)? Is it really better than photoshop blending (which I
> consider pretty much perfect)?

None of all that. Smartblend is pretty old and outdated. It doesn't work
with large files and it is not Zenith and Nadir aware. It simply has a
very good seam finding algorithm. According to Hans' test page at
http://www.panoramas.dk/panorama/CS3-autoblending.html it is not better
than photoshop.

However, I think a better PTGui internal blender is overdue...

UtahBob

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Jul 28, 2012, 10:54:01 AM7/28/12
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On Friday, July 27, 2012 5:01:45 PM UTC-4, Erik Krause wrote:

None of all that. Smartblend is pretty old and outdated. It doesn't work
with large files and it is not Zenith and Nadir aware. It simply has a
very good seam finding algorithm. 

Can anyone identify how the limitations of Smartblend manifest themselves.  I can blend a gigapixel pano however the lower portion of the pano has that corrupted look.  I found that the limit seems to be around 500 megapixel for no corruption and is dimension independent so I can stitch a very wide pano and the corruption occurs closer to the top verses a narrow pano where the corruption occurs further down in the image.  Running the newest version of PTGui on a W7 machine.  The blending of course takes long but it will finish.

In searching the web there was a note regarding corruption and a checkbox in preferences.  I can't find that box in the current version so I'm assuming that processes have changed in newer versions that eliminate the need for it.  I can't find that webpage now but it referenced this setting:

 Version 5.8.4 (19 June 2006)   Support for SmartBlend 1.2.2 and later. 'Don't pass partial images' setting can be turned off again.

Is the resulting pano corruption the result of Smartblend or is there something I can change to eliminate it.  I found old comments on the web from Max L. that indicate he was using SB to blend gigapixel images but I wonder whether he was seriously tweaking things given his programing capabilities.  The PT internal blender definitely has its limitations for me especially in captures with significant cloud lighting changes that you can't control.

Thanks, Bob

DaveN

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Jul 28, 2012, 8:54:24 PM7/28/12
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9.0 crashes on launch for me. :-(

On Jul 23, 9:43 pm, Joergen Geerds <jgee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've got to ask: will PTgui work in ML, or is it not yet tested?
> according to
> thishttp://roaringapps.com/apps:table/tags/_p/index_tags/_p/p/2Ptgiu 9.04

DaveN

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Jul 28, 2012, 9:47:31 PM7/28/12
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No worries. Updated to 9.1.3 and it now works. I usually don't do
the automatic updates for fear of Trojan programs.
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