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Ivan Majc  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 4:30 pm
From: Ivan Majc <ivanm...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:30:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 4:30 pm
Subject: JPEG or RAW/NEF (tiff) ???
I have question.
Before I took all pictures just in normal/JPEG and there was NO
noise :)
Now I took pictures in FINE-jpeg + Raw.
I like RAW because I could do a lot color/picture correction BUT there
is "noise" and I do not know why.
While in JPEG picture there is no noise, picture is really fine.

So what in the heck I'm doing wrong?
To be honest today I almost trow my D80 out of window.

Guys you are much more smart then I am and I need your great wisdom.

THANK YOU.

Ivan

P.S. Is there a way to "open" JEPG in same format as RAW so that I
could do more corrections?


 
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Geoff - Spherical Visions  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 4:52 pm
From: Geoff - Spherical Visions <geoff.mat...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:52:31 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: JPEG or RAW/NEF (tiff) ???

There maybe some noise reduction turned on in the Picture Control profile
your using for JPEG, but perhaps you haven't selected the same profile for
your RAW processing - or need to add some noise reduction its under Detail
Adjustment in Capture NX.


 
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Ivan Majc  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 5:39 pm
From: Ivan Majc <ivanm...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:39:11 +0100
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: [PTGui] Re: JPEG or RAW/NEF (tiff) ???

Dear Geoff,

Thank you for your reply but now I will see IF you could be patient with me
:). Is there different set up for JPEG and for RAW???
I click MENU then under SHOOTING MENU we have

   - Optimize image
   - Image quality
   - Image size
   - White balance
   - ISO sensitivity
   - Long exp. NR
   - HIGH ISO NR
      - normal
      - low
      - high
      - off
      - Multiple exposure

Where to go now???

BIG THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

Ivan

2012/11/12 Geoff - Spherical Visions <geoff.mat...@gmail.com>


 
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Trey Gafford  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 6:14 pm
From: Trey Gafford <revolutionimages...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:14:10 -0600
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: [PTGui] Re: JPEG or RAW/NEF (tiff) ???

Hello Ivan.  I'm not sure about the noise issue you're having but, If you
right click a JPEG in Adobe Bridge the option to "open in Camera Raw" is
available.


 
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Geoff - Spherical Visions  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 6:27 pm
From: Geoff - Spherical Visions <geoff.mat...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:27:04 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 6:27 pm
Subject: Re: [PTGui] Re: JPEG or RAW/NEF (tiff) ???

OK not that conversant with the D80, but checking the manual it doesn't
appear to allow loading Profiles as you can with some (D300 in my case)
however I do note that even if FINE-JPEG there is a 1:4 compression
compared to the RAW image, so that will have a significant effect on any
noise.  Do you use Capture NX to process the images from RAW?  If so try
saving the image as the same size Pixel size as the JPEG from the camera
and adjust the compression ratio to achieve the same file size then compare
the two images.

Try using within the Capture NX the Base Adjustment, Detail Adjustment, and
adjust the Noise Reduction parameters to see if this will reduce the
problem, you can then save in TIF etc. for processing and gain the
reduction in noise without losing any further detail in JPG compression.


 
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Geoff - Spherical Visions  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 6:41 pm
From: Geoff - Spherical Visions <geoff.mat...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:41:45 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 6:41 pm
Subject: Re: [PTGui] Re: JPEG or RAW/NEF (tiff) ???

Just been reading the D80 manual a bit further pages 79-81 The Optimise
Image settings allow custom settings for Saturation and Image sharpening,
if these are set to low or normal you may find that these settings will
reduce colour noise as well within the JPEG's created within the camera.


 
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Matthew Ward  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 6:18 am
From: Matthew Ward <matt...@matthewwardphotography.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:18:37 +0000
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 6:18 am
Subject: Re: [PTGui] Re: JPEG or RAW/NEF (tiff) ???

Raw files are what the name implies - raw data. They have no sharpening applied and no noise reduction etc etc etc.

Jpeg files have been processed from the raw files by the camera manufacturers software and will include fairly appropriate levels of noise reduction.

All Raw processing software allows you to add your own noise reduction - either more or less than the manufacturer thinks appropriate.

Hope this helps

Best
Matthew Ward

On 12 Nov 2012, at 22:39, Ivan Majc wrote:


 
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Ivan Majc  
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 More options Nov 26 2012, 6:37 am
From: Ivan Majc <ivanm...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:37:14 +0100
Local: Mon, Nov 26 2012 6:37 am
Subject: Re: [PTGui] Re: JPEG or RAW/NEF (tiff) ???

I would just like to gave my "honor" to you guys who are always helping me.
so THANK YOU Geoff and THANK YOU Matthew.

With great respect,
Ivan

2012/11/13 Matthew Ward <matt...@matthewwardphotography.com>


 
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