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[FeltonBill]

Hi everyone,
I just completed the Bruce and Rob show here in San Francisco
(Spirit2000 retreat). I mentioned this google group to a number of
folks and when they sign on I want to say WELCOME to them! The space
of the possibilities of psych-k and Bruce's work was so present in the
room. We all got so much out of the work this weekend. There are 70 or
so new basic facilitators out there in the world. I was so impressed..
people came from all over..Europe, Australia, Canada and all 4 corner
of the US, all wonderful folks!
So to all the psych-k people who sign in here from time to time..we
missed you! Keep being this work, the world needs you.
Thanks!
Bill

[Frank Trupiano]

The other day a worked with a lady who was having a complicated grief reaction.  Her father had died the week before from a massive heart attack.    I put her in surrogation with her father and she experienced a feeling of peace.   I was wondering if anyone  had suggestions for dealing with clients who are grieving.    Frank --- On Mon, 11/9/09, FeltonBill <outb...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

[R. Anderson]

Hi Frank,

I'm not sure what you mean with the term "a complicated grief reaction".

Considering myself a " Grief Expert" through my own experiences, I would concentrate on allowing the process of grief because through the process come many gifts, of healing. 

Listen to your client, and ask her what it is at this time she would like to know from her father. The reason I say that is because you mention putting her in surrogation with her father, and from my own experiences when I lost my father many feelings of guilt and blame came up for me.  When someone dies suddenly we haven't had time to say good bye or to heal any past hurts.  This could be what needs to be addressed for your client. 

Find out what her relationship with her father was like, and I believe from there, you will find many statements to balance, which will give her the peace to begin the healing  through  grief.  There are no time limits on grief, and finding her tears, and allowing the process to take it's natural course is perfect and exactly as it's meant to be.

Sincerely

Rita

[Frank Trupiano]

Thanks Rita for your response.  It was helpful.  You picked up on the real reason I wrote:  I was unsure whether using psych-k was appropirate at this time vs, just providing support and letting the cient grieve.  Everything you said made sense.        This client actually had a very good relationship with her father; and she was having suicidal thoughts; i.e., she nolonger wanted to live after her father's death.  sorry I didn't go into more detail.   Her main issue was knowing that her father was ok.   This client did not believe in after life, and I was hoping by using surrogation she could experience her father's presense and feel better.    I of course did recieve permission from her higher self before I proceeded.   In any even the client is doing well.      Sincerley   Frank    --- On Mon, 11/9/09, R. Anderson <rit...@telus.net> wrote:

[Mindy Osburn]

Frank - I have been a grief channel (I feel grief in the air like it's pollen) for many years.  9/11 was a nightmare for me, but it forced me to learn how to function through grief.  These are the two main things I have learned:  - You MUST feel the grief - it is very real, and unexperienced grief will always manifest in the body as illness.  I learned to handle it by "minimizing" it - telling myself that it was real, and appropriate, but I didn't always have to pay attention to it - instead, I could run it in the background like a Windows program, running other programs more visibly.  - Grieving is about the living, not the dead.  She needs to make sure she is dealing with HER emotions and HER fears and be very clear that they are hers, not her father's and not even necessarily the objective reality. Finally, my experience of losing my own father is that they definitely hang around if you want them to.  We create our memories of the past, and we are the only ones in charge of them.  Make sure she focuses on cherishing the best memories and reinforces them so she will remember him well.  My dad died in 1981, and mostly it's fine, but I still occassionally (every few years) cry because I miss him - there are certain loves that can't be replaced, and we miss them terribly.  Mindy Osburn --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Frank Trupiano <ftru...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Frank Trupiano]

Thanks Mindy.  Very Helpful.   Frank --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Mindy Osburn <harmo...@yahoo.com> wrote: