1099's & 1096's YIKES

[Angela Allen]

Warning to all…numerous problems with 1099’s & 1096’s.  The 1096 form is set up wrong, so don’t print those for awhile.  I have reported the problem & engineering is working on fixing.  If you have numerous owners for 1 property, the vendor 1099’s prints only from 1 of the owners.  I have reported this problem & they are looking into why it will not divide the amount paid amongst all the owners.  About half of my owners 1099’s are printing with amounts different than those showing on the owner reports.  Propertyware could not provide me an answer to that problem, so I am just going to have to correctly print those 1099’s on my own.  VERY frustrated with Propertyware at this point…I wish they would get a good accounting person in to really look over their system!   

 

Angela Allen, RMP®

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

www.premierpropertygj.com

 

 

[Deb Newell MPM® RMP®]

Angela and users - 

I have some close connections within PW and was able to escalate this issue quickly.  Here is the results:

The ownership percentage is not an issue, but just a misunderstanding of the report.  The simplest way to see this is if you uncheck the “Hide Portfolio” box.  The list will be sorted by Portfolio so you will easily see all portfolio owners together.  In my example, the Donovan Investments portfolio has two 50% owners.  The owner portfolio income is $23,911.76, which includes income for all accounts designated as “Rent” less all discounts/adjustments applied to rent accounts.  

 

Hope this helps.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPM® RMP®

President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member 
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

Property Management Minnesota

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[Angela Allen]

Deb,

 

The problem with 1099’s not being printed by each owner is under the vendor 1099.  When you print the vendor 1099’s it will not print it based off the percentage each owner has it prints the vendor a 1099 from 1 owner.  For example Joe Maint did work at portfolio xyz in the amount of $1300.00, xyz portfolio is owned by owner 1 (50%) and owner 2 (50%).  The 1099 is printing from owner 1 in the amount of $1300, instead of $650 from owner 1 & $650 from owner 2.

 

Angela Allen, RMP®

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

www.premierpropertygj.com

 

[Deb Newell MPM® RMP®]

Angela,

Let me see what I can find out for you.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPM® RMP®

President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member 
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

Property Management Minnesota

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On Dec 27, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Angela Allen wrote:

Deb,

 

The problem with 1099’s not being printed by each owner is under the vendor 1099.  When you print the vendor 1099’s it will not print it based off the percentage each owner has it prints the vendor a 1099 from 1 owner.  For example Joe Maint did work at portfolio xyz in the amount of $1300.00, xyz portfolio is owned by owner 1 (50%) and owner 2 (50%).  The 1099 is printing from owner 1 in the amount of $1300, instead of $650 from owner 1 & $650 from owner 2.

 

Angela Allen, RMP®

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

www.premierpropertygj.com

 

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Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

 

Angela and users - 

 

I have some close connections within PW and was able to escalate this issue quickly.  Here is the results:

 

The ownership percentage is not an issue, but just a misunderstanding of the report.  The simplest way to see this is if you uncheck the “Hide Portfolio” box.  The list will be sorted by Portfolio so you will easily see all portfolio owners together.  In my example, the Donovan Investments portfolio has two 50% owners.  The owner portfolio income is $23,911.76, which includes income for all accounts designated as “Rent” less all discounts/adjustments applied to rent accounts.  

 

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Hope this helps.

 

Thank you,

 

Deb Newell, MPM® RMP®

President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member 
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

 

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

 

 

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[Robert Gilstrap]

Angela,

Isn't that how it's supposed to work (at least for vendors) the way you describe?  If you're giving a vendor a 1099 then it should be for the entire amount correct and the number of owners isn't relevant right? Obviously I'm assuming the vendor is being paid by your management company. The owner would see the expense on his Income Statement so he has what he needs for his taxes. 

Robert Gilstrap

Title One Management
678-792-2100  direct line

770-480-7301  cell

770-606-1378  fax

[Angela Allen]

If the vendor was paid by the Management Company, you are correct.  I pay my vendors on behalf of my owners, so 1099’s are printed from the owner to the vendor. 

 

Angela Allen, RMP®

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

www.premierpropertygj.com

 

[Deb Newell MPM® RMP®]

Angela,

So my question us why not just have your owners worry about this.  Are you being compensated for running this report on their behalf?  Was it the owner that paid the vendor directly?  I would keep my company out of that equation then.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPM® RMP®

President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member 
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

Property Management Minnesota

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Angela,

 

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Hope this helps.

 

Thank you,

 

Deb Newell, MPM® RMP®

President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member 
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

 

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

 

 

 

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[Robert Gilstrap]

OK, just making sure; I know we all do it a little differently. Honestly I'm not even sure how you would set it up given how you describe it.

Robert Gilstrap

Title One Management
678-792-2100  direct line

770-480-7301  cell

770-606-1378  fax

[Angela Allen]

Deb,

 

The owners did not directly pay the vendor from their personal checking account.  The vendors are paid out of owners funds prior to owner funds being disbursed to the owner for the month. 

[Deb Newell MPM® RMP®]

But the check is still from your company?  Correct?  Then you would still issue the 1099.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPM® RMP®

President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member 
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

Property Management Minnesota

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