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Angela Allen  
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From: "Angela Allen" <ang...@premierpropertygj.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:01:48 -0700
Local: Tues, Dec 27 2011 2:01 pm
Subject: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Warning to all.numerous problems with 1099's & 1096's.  The 1096 form is set
up wrong, so don't print those for awhile.  I have reported the problem &
engineering is working on fixing.  If you have numerous owners for 1
property, the vendor 1099's prints only from 1 of the owners.  I have
reported this problem & they are looking into why it will not divide the
amount paid amongst all the owners.  About half of my owners 1099's are
printing with amounts different than those showing on the owner reports.
Propertyware could not provide me an answer to that problem, so I am just
going to have to correctly print those 1099's on my own.  VERY frustrated
with Propertyware at this point.I wish they would get a good accounting
person in to really look over their system!  

Angela Allen, RMPR

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

 <http://www.premierpropertygj.com> www.premierpropertygj.com


 
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From: Deb Newell MPM® RMP® <dnew...@realtimeleasing.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:32:27 -0600
Local: Tues, Dec 27 2011 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Angela and users -

I have some close connections within PW and was able to escalate this issue quickly.  Here is the results:

The ownership percentage is not an issue, but just a misunderstanding of the report.  The simplest way to see this is if you uncheck the “Hide Portfolio” box.  The list will be sorted by Portfolio so you will easily see all portfolio owners together.  In my example, the Donovan Investments portfolio has two 50% owners.  The owner portfolio income is $23,911.76, which includes income for all accounts designated as “Rent” less all discounts/adjustments applied to rent accounts.  

Hope this helps.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPM® RMP®
President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

Property Management Minnesota

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From: "Angela Allen" <ang...@premierpropertygj.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 13:44:57 -0700
Local: Tues, Dec 27 2011 3:44 pm
Subject: RE: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Deb,

The problem with 1099's not being printed by each owner is under the vendor
1099.  When you print the vendor 1099's it will not print it based off the
percentage each owner has it prints the vendor a 1099 from 1 owner.  For
example Joe Maint did work at portfolio xyz in the amount of $1300.00, xyz
portfolio is owned by owner 1 (50%) and owner 2 (50%).  The 1099 is printing
from owner 1 in the amount of $1300, instead of $650 from owner 1 & $650
from owner 2.

Angela Allen, RMPR

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

www.premierpropertygj.com

  _____  

From: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
[mailto:propertyware-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb Newell MPMR
RMPR
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:32 PM
To: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Angela and users -

I have some close connections within PW and was able to escalate this issue
quickly.  Here is the results:

The ownership percentage is not an issue, but just a misunderstanding of the
report.  The simplest way to see this is if you uncheck the "Hide Portfolio"
box.  The list will be sorted by Portfolio so you will easily see all
portfolio owners together.  In my example, the Donovan Investments portfolio
has two 50% owners.  The owner portfolio income is $23,911.76, which
includes income for all accounts designated as "Rent" less all
discounts/adjustments applied to rent accounts.  

Hope this helps.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPMR RMPR

President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

 <http://www.realtimeleasing.com>

Property Management Minnesota

Confidentiality Statement: This email, including attachments, may include
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Please consider the environment before printing my email

On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Angela Allen wrote:

Warning to all.numerous problems with 1099's & 1096's.  The 1096 form is set
up wrong, so don't print those for awhile.  I have reported the problem &
engineering is working on fixing.  If you have numerous owners for 1
property, the vendor 1099's prints only from 1 of the owners.  I have
reported this problem & they are looking into why it will not divide the
amount paid amongst all the owners.  About half of my owners 1099's are
printing with amounts different than those showing on the owner reports.
Propertyware could not provide me an answer to that problem, so I am just
going to have to correctly print those 1099's on my own.  VERY frustrated
with Propertyware at this point.I wish they would get a good accounting
person in to really look over their system!  

Angela Allen, RMPR

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

 <http://www.premierpropertygj.com/> www.premierpropertygj.com

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From: Deb Newell MPM® RMP® <dnew...@realtimeleasing.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:46:53 -0600
Local: Tues, Dec 27 2011 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Angela,

Let me see what I can find out for you.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPM® RMP®
President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

Property Management Minnesota

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From: Robert Gilstrap <rob...@peachnet.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:53:13 -0500
Local: Tues, Dec 27 2011 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

*Angela,*
*
*
*Isn't that how it's supposed to work (at least for vendors) the way you
describe?  If you're giving a vendor a 1099 then it should be for the
entire amount correct and the number of owners isn't relevant right?
Obviously I'm assuming the vendor is being paid by your management company.
The owner would see the expense on his Income Statement so he has what he
needs for his taxes.
*
*

Robert Gilstrap*
*Title One Management
678-792-2100  direct line*
*770-480-7301  cell*
*770-606-1378  fax*

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From: "Angela Allen" <ang...@premierpropertygj.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 13:56:59 -0700
Local: Tues, Dec 27 2011 3:56 pm
Subject: RE: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

If the vendor was paid by the Management Company, you are correct.  I pay my
vendors on behalf of my owners, so 1099's are printed from the owner to the
vendor.  

Angela Allen, RMPR

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

www.premierpropertygj.com

  _____  

From: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
[mailto:propertyware-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gilstrap
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:53 PM
To: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Angela,

Isn't that how it's supposed to work (at least for vendors) the way you
describe?  If you're giving a vendor a 1099 then it should be for the entire
amount correct and the number of owners isn't relevant right? Obviously I'm
assuming the vendor is being paid by your management company. The owner
would see the expense on his Income Statement so he has what he needs for
his taxes.

Robert Gilstrap

Title One Management
678-792-2100  direct line

770-480-7301  cell

770-606-1378  fax

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Angela Allen <ang...@premierpropertygj.com>
wrote:

Deb,

The problem with 1099's not being printed by each owner is under the vendor
1099.  When you print the vendor 1099's it will not print it based off the
percentage each owner has it prints the vendor a 1099 from 1 owner.  For
example Joe Maint did work at portfolio xyz in the amount of $1300.00, xyz
portfolio is owned by owner 1 (50%) and owner 2 (50%).  The 1099 is printing
from owner 1 in the amount of $1300, instead of $650 from owner 1 & $650
from owner 2.

Angela Allen, RMPR

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

www.premierpropertygj.com

  _____  

From: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
[mailto:propertyware-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb Newell MPMR
RMPR
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:32 PM
To: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Angela and users -

I have some close connections within PW and was able to escalate this issue
quickly.  Here is the results:

The ownership percentage is not an issue, but just a misunderstanding of the
report.  The simplest way to see this is if you uncheck the "Hide Portfolio"
box.  The list will be sorted by Portfolio so you will easily see all
portfolio owners together.  In my example, the Donovan Investments portfolio
has two 50% owners.  The owner portfolio income is $23,911.76, which
includes income for all accounts designated as "Rent" less all
discounts/adjustments applied to rent accounts.  

Hope this helps.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPMR RMPR

President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

 <http://www.realtimeleasing.com>

Property Management Minnesota

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Please consider the environment before printing my email

On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Angela Allen wrote:

Warning to all.numerous problems with 1099's & 1096's.  The 1096 form is set
up wrong, so don't print those for awhile.  I have reported the problem &
engineering is working on fixing.  If you have numerous owners for 1
property, the vendor 1099's prints only from 1 of the owners.  I have
reported this problem & they are looking into why it will not divide the
amount paid amongst all the owners.  About half of my owners 1099's are
printing with amounts different than those showing on the owner reports.
Propertyware could not provide me an answer to that problem, so I am just
going to have to correctly print those 1099's on my own.  VERY frustrated
with Propertyware at this point.I wish they would get a good accounting
person in to really look over their system!  

Angela Allen, RMPR

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

 <http://www.premierpropertygj.com/> www.premierpropertygj.com

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From: Deb Newell MPM® RMP® <dnew...@realtimeleasing.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:04:06 -0600
Local: Tues, Dec 27 2011 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Angela,

So my question us why not just have your owners worry about this.  Are you being compensated for running this report on their behalf?  Was it the owner that paid the vendor directly?  I would keep my company out of that equation then.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPM® RMP®
President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

Property Management Minnesota

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:05:19 -0500
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Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

*OK, just making sure; I know we all do it a little differently. Honestly
I'm not even sure how you would set it up given how you describe it.
*
*

Robert Gilstrap*
*Title One Management
678-792-2100  direct line*
*770-480-7301  cell*
*770-606-1378  fax*

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From: "Angela Allen" <ang...@premierpropertygj.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:12:10 -0700
Local: Tues, Dec 27 2011 4:12 pm
Subject: RE: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Deb,

The owners did not directly pay the vendor from their personal checking
account.  The vendors are paid out of owners funds prior to owner funds
being disbursed to the owner for the month.  

Angela Allen, RMPR

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

www.premierpropertygj.com

  _____  

From: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
[mailto:propertyware-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb Newell MPMR
RMPR
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 2:04 PM
To: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Angela,

So my question us why not just have your owners worry about this.  Are you
being compensated for running this report on their behalf?  Was it the owner
that paid the vendor directly?  I would keep my company out of that equation
then.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPMR RMPR

President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

 <http://www.realtimeleasing.com>

Property Management Minnesota

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Please consider the environment before printing my email

On Dec 27, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Angela Allen wrote:

If the vendor was paid by the Management Company, you are correct.  I pay my
vendors on behalf of my owners, so 1099's are printed from the owner to the
vendor.  

Angela Allen, RMPR

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

www.premierpropertygj.com <http://www.premierpropertygj.com/>

  _____  

From: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
[mailto:propertyware-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gilstrap
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:53 PM
To: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Angela,

Isn't that how it's supposed to work (at least for vendors) the way you
describe?  If you're giving a vendor a 1099 then it should be for the entire
amount correct and the number of owners isn't relevant right? Obviously I'm
assuming the vendor is being paid by your management company. The owner
would see the expense on his Income Statement so he has what he needs for
his taxes.

Robert Gilstrap

Title One Management
678-792-2100  direct line

770-480-7301  cell

770-606-1378  fax

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Angela Allen <ang...@premierpropertygj.com>
wrote:

Deb,

The problem with 1099's not being printed by each owner is under the vendor
1099.  When you print the vendor 1099's it will not print it based off the
percentage each owner has it prints the vendor a 1099 from 1 owner.  For
example Joe Maint did work at portfolio xyz in the amount of $1300.00, xyz
portfolio is owned by owner 1 (50%) and owner 2 (50%).  The 1099 is printing
from owner 1 in the amount of $1300, instead of $650 from owner 1 & $650
from owner 2.

Angela Allen, RMPR

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

www.premierpropertygj.com <http://www.premierpropertygj.com/>

  _____  

From: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
[mailto:propertyware-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb Newell MPMR
RMPR
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:32 PM
To: propertyware-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

Angela and users -

I have some close connections within PW and was able to escalate this issue
quickly.  Here is the results:

The ownership percentage is not an issue, but just a misunderstanding of the
report.  The simplest way to see this is if you uncheck the "Hide Portfolio"
box.  The list will be sorted by Portfolio so you will easily see all
portfolio owners together.  In my example, the Donovan Investments portfolio
has two 50% owners.  The owner portfolio income is $23,911.76, which
includes income for all accounts designated as "Rent" less all
discounts/adjustments applied to rent accounts.  

<image001.gif>

Hope this helps.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPMR RMPR

President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

<image002.jpg>

 <http://www.realtimeleasing.com/>

Property Management Minnesota

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On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Angela Allen wrote:

Warning to all.numerous problems with 1099's & 1096's.  The 1096 form is set
up wrong, so don't print those for awhile.  I have reported the problem &
engineering is working on fixing.  If you have numerous owners for 1
property, the vendor 1099's prints only from 1 of the owners.  I have
reported this problem & they are looking into why it will not divide the
amount paid amongst all the owners.  About half of my owners 1099's are
printing with amounts different than those showing on the owner reports.
Propertyware could not provide me an answer to that problem, so I am just
going to have to correctly print those 1099's on my own.  VERY frustrated
with Propertyware at this point.I wish they would get a good accounting
person in to really look over their system!  

Angela Allen, RMPR

Premier Property Management

1000 N. 9th Street, Suite 8

Grand Junction, CO.  81501

970-245-1133

Fax 970-245-1176

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From: Deb Newell MPM® RMP® <dnew...@realtimeleasing.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:13:39 -0600
Local: Tues, Dec 27 2011 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Propertyware-Users: 1099's & 1096's YIKES

But the check is still from your company?  Correct?  Then you would still issue the 1099.

Thank you,

Deb Newell, MPM® RMP®
President/CEO
2011 NARPM Governmental Affairs Chair
2011 SPAAR GA Committee Member
952-808-9700 Office|952-808-9702|952-808-9701 Fax
2426 117th St. E. Burnsville MN 55337

MN Lic#BC 20639061/Real-Time Property Services

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