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Phil Hagelberg  
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 More options Nov 20 2010, 2:01 am
From: Phil Hagelberg <p...@hagelb.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:01:23 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 20 2010 2:01 am
Subject: Re: Minimizing the number of model implementations

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Chas Emerick <cemer...@snowtide.com> wrote:
> I'm amazed that we're debating the value of a declarative
> specification.  It's very hard (nigh impossible) to accurately assess
> the origins of others' opinions, but I can only suspect that knocking
> declarative builds (as imperfect and flawed as the current
> implementations of those are) comes from an insufficient regard of
> history, namely make and ant in this case.  I've used them, abused
> them, and thankfully forgotten much about them – but their approach is
> not made better simply because it's been implemented in Clojure.

Hmmm--I suppose I should have been clearer. I'm in favour of
declarative builds, (obviously, all Clojure build tools are
declarative at heart), it's the 100% no-compromises declarative that
I'm not fond of. I'm using the term "dynamism" to refer to what Antony
seems to be railing against--the notion that you can have an escape
hatch and put executable code in your build configuration.

-Phil


 
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