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  <title type="text">Power Tab Developers Support Google Group</title>
  <subtitle type="text">
  A support group for developers interested in Power Tab software
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  <updated>2008-10-22T19:32:29Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>JamesB</name>
  <email>jbossing...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-10-22T19:32:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/5b8493793e79eaa5/46a83bab57bdb2d3?show_docid=46a83bab57bdb2d3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/5b8493793e79eaa5/46a83bab57bdb2d3?show_docid=46a83bab57bdb2d3"/>
  <title type="text">Reading/Writing and Editing PTB&#39;s</title>
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  Hello, &lt;br&gt; I am a third year Computer Science student, currently working on my &lt;br&gt; dissertation. My project is working on a way to record tabs straight &lt;br&gt; from a standard guitar. I have done a lot of the work on this section &lt;br&gt; of the project, and am now faced with a dilemma. Ideally I would love &lt;br&gt; to save the recorded files in the powertab format, and also allow
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Alexander Rojas</name>
  <email>alexander.ro...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-02T15:10:45Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/35e6f899ddde550a?show_docid=35e6f899ddde550a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/35e6f899ddde550a?show_docid=35e6f899ddde550a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I agree completely with Robert, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Starting a new Powertab would take us a lot of time, in the time we as &lt;br&gt; developers would spend in doing something that loosely resembles &lt;br&gt; powertab we would add tons of new functionalities to tuxguitar. More &lt;br&gt; over, if you consider that you cannot cope with the policies of that
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  <author>
  <name>Robert Dietz</name>
  <email>beadgui...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-07T23:25:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/8e224159610f82ef?show_docid=8e224159610f82ef</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/8e224159610f82ef?show_docid=8e224159610f82ef"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Well, &lt;br&gt; I&#39;ve been following these discussions for some time.. Here&#39;s my 10 cents... The Powertab application will likely not move forward.  I have since moved to using TuxGuitar. It is an open source application which works under several different OS environments and will read Powertab files.  If you were to consider writing an player for use on the web, this is where I would put my time... I&#39;m actually thinking of it...
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  <author>
  <name>allpowertabs@gmail.com</name>
  <email>allpowert...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-08T12:13:01Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/5952f0baf7cbe035?show_docid=5952f0baf7cbe035</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/5952f0baf7cbe035?show_docid=5952f0baf7cbe035"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
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  I agree. Writing a parser in a scripting language is not fun &lt;br&gt; especially because the lack low level operators. The php power tab &lt;br&gt; parser had to define custom classes to do this. It took 1 month to &lt;br&gt; write a basic parser, and about 7 months to completely translate &lt;br&gt; Brad&#39;s classes. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;It was great to port the parser to php for web based parsing, but you
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Golbez</name>
  <email>canaanabolaa...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-04T07:05:14Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/6d5131992928587c?show_docid=6d5131992928587c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/6d5131992928587c?show_docid=6d5131992928587c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  So let&#39;s assume I have zero understanding of programming language. If &lt;br&gt; I were to read through this Ruby tutorial, would it be possible for me &lt;br&gt; to provide anything to the project? Or do I need to know a second &lt;br&gt; language to decode the parser to be able to write it to Ruby? I&#39;m &lt;br&gt; pretty good at picking up on stuff.
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  <author>
  <name>Cacofonix</name>
  <email>smudge.farr...@googlemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-05T18:56:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/63884c888a53ebc5?show_docid=63884c888a53ebc5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/63884c888a53ebc5?show_docid=63884c888a53ebc5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Hi Guys, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;After a long thought, I originally sent my opinions on this directly &lt;br&gt; to Ronald. It has been decided to post it publicly for discussion. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;BTW, congratulations to Ronald for his success in working out a MPA &lt;br&gt; accepted agreement. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;==== Summary ==== &lt;br&gt; You (Ronald) desire a set of Powertab Tools and talk about a viewer/
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  <author>
  <name>Ronald [PTA]</name>
  <email>powertabs....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-30T08:44:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/212f8a5917dc2a1f?show_docid=212f8a5917dc2a1f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/212f8a5917dc2a1f?show_docid=212f8a5917dc2a1f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Ouch. Maybe that is what happens when you start writing an editor &lt;br&gt; before doing the ground work. 3-voice would definitely be one of the &lt;br&gt; most useful additions for the Power Tab Editor. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;On Jun 29, 10:13 pm, &amp;quot;allpowert...@gmail.com&amp;quot; &amp;lt;allpowert...@gmail.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote:
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>allpowertabs@gmail.com</name>
  <email>allpowert...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-29T20:13:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/5fcfe02b75a38556?show_docid=5fcfe02b75a38556</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/5fcfe02b75a38556?show_docid=5fcfe02b75a38556"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
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  It doesn&#39;t support high and low melody&#39;s.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ronald [PTA]</name>
  <email>powertabs....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-29T08:04:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/1147de1ae61d94e5?show_docid=1147de1ae61d94e5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/1147de1ae61d94e5?show_docid=1147de1ae61d94e5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Yup, MusicXML is a fine thing, it was already considered in &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://samba.org/~jelmer/ptabtools/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; before the parser was released &lt;br&gt; open-source. Brad also favors MusicXML over own tab-specific XML &lt;br&gt; languages (there were some discussions several years ago). The ptb&amp;lt;- &lt;br&gt; of course, it can be integrated right away in the C++ parser, e.g.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Yann Gilquin</name>
  <email>yann.gilq...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-28T09:52:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/7dfb01469845b20f?show_docid=7dfb01469845b20f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/7dfb01469845b20f?show_docid=7dfb01469845b20f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  That&#39;s something very interesting ! But what your post highlighted is &lt;br&gt; the musicXML format existence (I didn&#39;t heard about it). &lt;br&gt; IMHO what I think would be a very very useful initiative could be to &lt;br&gt; design some ptb to musicXML translater based on ptb parser in order to &lt;br&gt; keep data in some open format. I think it shouldn&#39;t be to much
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ronald [PTA]</name>
  <email>powertabs....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-28T10:55:37Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/29743958135c76a5?show_docid=29743958135c76a5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/29743958135c76a5?show_docid=29743958135c76a5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Good point! Especially since they finally released a stable 1.0. &lt;br&gt; TuxGuitar definitely has a different goal, because writing a full- &lt;br&gt; fledged editor is just a long-term goal of rubypowertab. But &lt;br&gt; nonetheless, there are certainly many interesting things included &lt;br&gt; there (especially the gp 3/4/5 stuff).
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  <author>
  <name>istomisgood</name>
  <email>thomas.newman...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-27T04:13:11Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/26c3571875a6a8dc?show_docid=26c3571875a6a8dc</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/26c3571875a6a8dc?show_docid=26c3571875a6a8dc"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I just wanted to draw your attention to tuxGuitar on sourceforge. They &lt;br&gt; have a ptb parser and tuxGuitar also has plugins for gp3/4/5 and &lt;br&gt; lilypond, musicXML and others. One possibility for this initiative &lt;br&gt; would be to jump on board with their efforts. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Either way I will be watching with interest.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>pcburner</name>
  <email>kl.allt...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-24T15:03:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/0761b0bb133c8368/e067f9789e2ff9bd?show_docid=e067f9789e2ff9bd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/0761b0bb133c8368/e067f9789e2ff9bd?show_docid=e067f9789e2ff9bd"/>
  <title type="text">exporting data</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I would like to know if there is a way to export the data that has &lt;br&gt; been created to microsoft access for the purpose of web publishing. I &lt;br&gt; would like to create an online accessible database of the tablature &lt;br&gt; that I have and create a web space that will allow me to share my tabs &lt;br&gt; with friends. This would make it easier rather than having to enter in
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ronald [PTA]</name>
  <email>powertabs....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-22T16:36:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/77ab25a2a06afc80?show_docid=77ab25a2a06afc80</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/77ab25a2a06afc80?show_docid=77ab25a2a06afc80"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Hi Yann, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I definitely agree, that maintaining the core in C(++) would make &lt;br&gt; sense. I am also not a real Ruby expert or fanatic. However, the &lt;br&gt; beauty of the language admittedly is phenomenal. Besides this &lt;br&gt; fundamental fact, I had two main motivations regarding the choice: The &lt;br&gt; C++ code of the parser (beautiful code btw.) was released a long time
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Yann Gilquin</name>
  <email>yann.gilq...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-22T09:53:39Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/d7a988580c524909?show_docid=d7a988580c524909</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/powertab-developers/browse_thread/thread/72a00832c2c2258b/d7a988580c524909?show_docid=d7a988580c524909"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ruby Power Tab Open-Source Project</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Hi Ronald, &lt;br&gt; could I ask you the reasons of your choice of Ruby language ? &lt;br&gt; Anyway your initiative is very interesting and the ultimate goal of &lt;br&gt; designing an open-source ptb viewer/player is a VERY good idea as Brad &lt;br&gt; has never open the door to the community. The meaning of my question &lt;br&gt; is linked to that goal, indeed don&#39;t you think main tools should be
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