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STranger

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Jan 22, 2008, 6:16:34 PM1/22/08
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Ciekaw jestem, czy ufonauci, zwani , serpentami, ufolami, szatańskimi
pasożytami według koncepcji dra. Pająka to te same istoty co
reptilianie, zwani drakonami, lizardami według koncepcji angielskiego
badacza i pisarza Davida Icke? (czyt. Ajk)
Gadzianie znani są w Afryce jako Czitachurii (fonetyczny zapis polski)
według słynnego afrykańskiego szamana Credo Mutwa:
kapitalny film wywiad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf0o4TkoObo
według Mutwy klasyczni szarzy obcy to spokrewnieni z reptilianami i
podlegli im robole od brudnej roboty.
Słynne medium amerykańskie Ingo Swann także pisał o podobnych istotach,
sporo jest wzmianek o nich w zapisach sumeryjskich i podaniach
południowo amerykańskich. Dr Carla Turner też wspominała że niektórzy
jej pacjenci w sesjach regresji hipnotycznej opowiadali o uprowadzeniach
przez obcych ujawniających sie jako reptilianie. (nie nazywali ich tak,
ale opisywali wygląd)
Czy wiadomo cokolwiek o takich istotach gadzio-demonicznych z wyglądu w
mitologii słowińskiej lub germańskiej, albo skandynawskiej?
Jacy jeszcze autorzy zajmują się tym tematem?

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STranger

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Jan 22, 2008, 6:27:43 PM1/22/08
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STranger pisze:

> Gadzianie znani są w Afryce jako Czitachurii (fonetyczny zapis polski)
> według słynnego afrykańskiego szamana Credo Mutwa:


a to wywiad radiowy z Davidem Icke i Credo Mutwa, warto posłuchać:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1C6RzdSUvE&feature=related

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Sky

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Jan 22, 2008, 7:29:36 PM1/22/08
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Użytkownik "STranger" <pisznab...@icpnet.uk> napisał w wiadomości news:fn5tdu$2f7s$1...@opal.icpnet.pl...
> Ciekaw jestem, czy ufonauci, zwani , serpentami, ufolami, szatańskimi
> pasożytami według koncepcji dra. Pająka to te same istoty co
> reptilianie, zwani drakonami, lizardami według koncepcji angielskiego
> badacza i pisarza Davida Icke? (czyt. Ajk)
[...]
> Czy wiadomo cokolwiek o takich istotach gadzio-demonicznych z wyglądu w
> mitologii słowi[a?]ńskiej lub germańskiej, albo skandynawskiej?

Smok Wawelski zdaje się gadom jakoś tak był podobny...i dziewice porywał [pożerał] czyli nie wiadomo właściwie co z nimi robił...może smocza jama to jakieśiś wejście do ufolskiego systemu koytarzy...a wawelski książęcy gród to siedziba ufolskich kumotrów przy "komunikatorze" czyli czakramie
??????????????????! ;)

Kiedy zabieramy się za kopanie w Smoczej Jamie?!?
Proponuję zrobić nową "wyprawę w głąb ziemi" i wynijść
gdzie w okolicach Babiej...teraz Schengen -więc jeśli wyjście
jest gdzie po południowej-słowackiej stronie to nas nikt nie pogoni.... ;P

Stanislaw Sidor

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Jan 22, 2008, 7:54:13 PM1/22/08
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Newsuser "Sky" <sky...@op.pl> wrote ...

> ...może smocza jama
> to jakieśiś wejście do ufolskiego systemu koytarzy...a wawelski książęcy
> gród to siedziba ufolskich kumotrów przy "komunikatorze" czyli czakramie
> ??????????????????! ;)

Nadmienie, ze w XVI i XVII wieku w Smoczej Jamie byla karczma i uznany w
grodzie burdel :)
Pewnie jako "akcja dezinformujaca" :>

> Proponuję zrobić nową "wyprawę w głąb ziemi" i wynijść
> gdzie w okolicach Babiej...teraz Schengen -więc jeśli wyjście
> jest gdzie po południowej-słowackiej stronie to nas nikt nie pogoni.... ;P

A jak wyjdziesz nie dosc, ze na Slowacji to jeszcze rok wstecz? :)

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Sola ratio perfecta beatum facit.
Tylko doskonały rozum czyni człowieka szczęśliwym. [Seneka]

Sky

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Jan 22, 2008, 9:08:55 PM1/22/08
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Użytkownik "Stanislaw Sidor" <sts_n...@uranos.eu.org> napisał w wiadomości news:fn62p5$lvl$1...@srv.cyf-kr.edu.pl...
> Newsuser "Sky" <sky...@op.pl> wrote ...
>
> > ...może smocza jama
> > to jakieśiś wejście do ufolskiego systemu koytarzy...a wawelski książęcy
> > gród to siedziba ufolskich kumotrów przy "komunikatorze" czyli czakramie
> > ??????????????????! ;)
>
> Nadmienie, ze w XVI i XVII wieku w Smoczej Jamie byla karczma i uznany w
> grodzie burdel :)
> Pewnie jako "akcja dezinformujaca" :>

A dziewice jak wprzódy tak nadal tamże "ginęły"...oraz niejednemu
parę godzin z życia "wyparowało"...ot...co znaczy dobra przykrywka! ;)

> > Proponuję zrobić nową "wyprawę w głąb ziemi" i wynijść
> > gdzie w okolicach Babiej...teraz Schengen -więc jeśli wyjście
> > jest gdzie po południowej-słowackiej stronie to nas nikt nie pogoni.... ;P
>
> A jak wyjdziesz nie dosc, ze na Slowacji to jeszcze rok wstecz? :)

Znając naszych potencjalnych współtowarzyszy niedoli to z rok przygotowania zejdą jak nic...więc nie ma strachu..gorzej jakby
cofneło nas tak do czasów czechosłowacji...jeszcze by o bratnią
pomoc... ;)

STranger

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Jan 24, 2008, 7:54:09 AM1/24/08
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Sky pisze:

>> mitologii słowi[a?]ńskiej lub germańskiej, albo skandynawskiej?

Tak, słowiAńskiej - oczywiście!

> Smok Wawelski zdaje się gadom jakoś tak był podobny...i dziewice porywał [pożerał] czyli nie wiadomo właściwie co z nimi robił...może smocza jama to jakieśiś wejście do ufolskiego systemu koytarzy...a wawelski książęcy gród to siedziba ufolskich kumotrów przy "komunikatorze" czyli czakramie

LOL, heheh, no smok wawelski to zacna legenda, ale nie pasuje jako, że
prawdziwi reptilianie działają bardziej skrycie. ;)

> Kiedy zabieramy się za kopanie w Smoczej Jamie?!?
> Proponuję zrobić nową "wyprawę w głąb ziemi" i wynijść
> gdzie w okolicach Babiej...teraz Schengen -więc jeśli wyjście
> jest gdzie po południowej-słowackiej stronie to nas nikt nie pogoni.... ;P


Widzisz, pomysł z odszukaniem systemu podziemnych korytarzy w różnych
częściach świata nie jest taki głupi jak chciałbyś żeby się wszystkim
wydawało, że jest :)

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STranger

Sky

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Jan 24, 2008, 1:23:36 PM1/24/08
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Użytkownik "STranger" <pisznab...@icpnet.uk> napisał w wiadomości news:fna1n0$1let$1...@opal.icpnet.pl...
> Sky pisze:
> >> mitologii słowi[a?]ńskiej lub germańskiej, albo skandynawskiej?
>
> Tak, słowiAńskiej - oczywiście!
>
> > Smok Wawelski zdaje się gadom jakoś tak był podobny...i dziewice porywał [pożerał] czyli nie wiadomo właściwie co z nimi robił...może smocza jama to jakieśiś wejście do ufolskiego systemu koytarzy...a wawelski książęcy gród to siedziba ufolskich kumotrów przy "komunikatorze" czyli czakramie
>
> LOL, heheh, no smok wawelski to zacna legenda, ale nie pasuje jako, że
> prawdziwi reptilianie działają bardziej skrycie. ;)

Tak jest obecnie...drzewiej zachowywać zbytniej ostrożności nie musieli...bo i po co? ;)

> > Kiedy zabieramy się za kopanie w Smoczej Jamie?!?
> > Proponuję zrobić nową "wyprawę w głąb ziemi" i wynijść
> > gdzie w okolicach Babiej...teraz Schengen -więc jeśli wyjście
> > jest gdzie po południowej-słowackiej stronie to nas nikt nie pogoni.... ;P
>
>
> Widzisz, pomysł z odszukaniem systemu podziemnych korytarzy w różnych
> częściach świata nie jest taki głupi jak chciałbyś żeby się wszystkim
> wydawało, że jest :)

Czy ja aż deprecjonuję pomysł? Ja tylko temat nieco lekce sobie ważę ;)
Ale jeśli masz jakieś materiały na poparcie swych tez to nie krępuj się :P

Sky

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that of each of the righteous while they slept, both in their nothingness
before their birth, and in their sins after their birth.

He prays only once that the cup pass away, and then with submission; and
twice that it come if necessary.

Jesus is weary.

Jesus, seeing all His friends asleep and all His enemies wakeful, commits
Himself entirely to His Father.

Jesus does not regard in Judas his enmity, but the order of God, which He
loves and admits, since He calls him friend.

Jesus tears Himself away from His disciples to enter into His agony; we must
tear ourselves away from our nearest and dearest to imitate Him.

Jesus being in agony and in the greatest affliction, let us pray longer.

We implore the mercy of God, not that He may leave us at peace in our vices,
that He may deliver us from them.

If God gave us masters by His own hand, oh! how necessary for us to obey
them with a good heart! Necessity and events follow infallibly.

"Console thyself, thou wouldst not seek Me, if thou hadst not found Me.

"I thought of thee in Mine agony, I have sweated such drops of blood for
thee.

"It is tempting Me rather than proving thyself, to think if thou wouldst do
such and such a thing on an occasion which has not happened; I shall act in
thee if it occur.

"Let thyself be guided by My rules; see how well I have led the Virgin and
the saints who have let Me act in them.

"The Father loves all that I do.

"Dost thou wish that it always cost Me the blood of My humanity, without thy
shedding tears?

"Thy conversion is My affair; fear not, and pray with confidence as for Me.

"I am present with thee by My Word in Scripture, by My Spirit in the Church
and by inspiration, by My power in the priests, by My prayer in the
faithful.

"Physicians will not heal the


STranger

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They are earnest to inquire
what they shall do. They do not know but there is something else to be
done, in order to their obtaining converting grace, that they have never
done yet. It may be they hope that they are something better than they
were; but then the pleasing dream all vanishes again. If they are told
that they trust too much to their own strength and righteousness, they
cannot unlearn this practice all at once, and find not yet the
appearance of any good, but all looks as dark as midnight to them. Thus
they wander about from mountain to hill, seeking rest, and finding none.
When they are beat out of one refuge, they fly to another; till they are
as it were debilitated, broken, and subdued with legal humblings; in
which God gives them a conviction of their own utter helplessness and
insufficiency, and discovers the true remedy in a clearer knowledge of
Christ and His gospel.

When they begin to seek salvation, they are commonly profoundly ignorant
of themselves; they are not sensible how blind they are; and how little
they can do towards bringing themselves to see spiritual things aright,
and towards putting forth gracious exercises in their own souls. They
are not sensible how remote they are from love to God, and other holy
dispositions, and how dead they are in sin. When they see unexpected
pollution in their own hearts, they go about to wash away their own
defilements, and make themselves clean; and they weary themselves in
vain, till God shows them that it is in vain, and that their help is not
where they have sought it.

But some persons continue wandering in such a kind of labyrinth, ten
times as long as others, before their own experience will convince them
of their insufficiency; and so it appears not to be their own experience
only, but the convincing influence of God's Holy Spirit with their
experience, that attains the


Sky

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it came to pass: lest thou shouldst say that it was the work
of thy gods, and the effect of their commands.

"Thou hast seen all this; and will not ye declare it? I have shewed thee new
things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them.
They are created now, and not from the beginning; I have kept them hidden
from thee; lest thou shouldst say, Behold, I knew them.

"Yea, thou knewest not; yea, thou heardest not; yea, from that time that
thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou couldst deal very
treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb."

Reprobation of the Jews and conversion of the Gentiles.--Is. 65: "I am
sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not;
I said, Behold me, behold me, behold me, unto a nation that did not call
upon my name.

"I have spread out my hands all the day unto an unbelieving people, which
walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; a people that
provoketh me to anger continually by the sins they commit in my face; that
sacrificeth to idols, etc.

"These shall be scattered like smoke in the day of my wrath, etc.


Stanislaw Sidor

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She complains of both, but far more of the Calvinists, because of the
schism.

It is certain that many of the two opposite sects are deceived. They must be
disillusioned.

Faith embraces many truths which seem to contradict each other. There is a
time to laugh, and time to weep, etc. Responde. Ne respondeas,215 etc.

The source of this is the union of the two natures in Jesus Christ; and also
the two worlds (the creation of a new heaven and a new earth; a new life and
a new death; all things double, and the same names remaining); and finally
the two natures that are in the righteous (for they are the two worlds, and
a member and image of Jesus Christ. And thus all the names suit them:
righteous, yet sinners; dead, yet living; living, yet dead; elect, yet
outcast, etc.).

There are then a great number of truths, both of faith and of morality,
which seem contradictory and which all hold good together in a wonderful
system. The source of all heresies is the exclusion of some of these truths;
and the source of all the objections which the heretics make against us is
the ignorance of some of our truths. And it generally happens that, unable
to conceive the connection of two opposite truths, and believing that the
admission of one involves the exclusion of the other, they adhere to the
one, exclude the other, and think of us as opposed to them. Now exclusion is
the cause of their heresy; and ignorance that we hold the other truth causes
their objections.

1st example: Jesus Christ is God and man. The Arians, unable to reconcile
these things, which they believe incompatible, say that He is man; in this
they are Catholics. But they deny that He is God; in t


Sky

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fly from it.

If this be well understood, I think that we shall remain at rest, each in
the state wherein nature has placed him. As this sphere which has fallen to
us as our lot is always distant from either extreme, what matters it that
man should have a little more knowledge of the universe? If he has it, he
but gets a little higher. Is he not always infinitely removed from the end,
and is not the duration of our life equally removed from eternity, even if
it lasts ten years longer?

In comparison with these Infinites, all finites are equal, and I see no
reason for fixing our imagination on one more than on another. The only
comparison which we make of ourselves to the finite is painful to us.

If man made himself the first object of study, he would see how incapable he
is of going further. How can a part know the whole? But he may perhaps
aspire to know at least the parts to which he bears some proportion. But the
parts of the world are all so related and linked to one another that I
believe it impossible to know one without the other and without the whole.

Man, for instance, is related to all he knows. He needs a place wherein to
abide, time through which to live, motion in order to live, elemen


STranger

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by simply reading it; for we see that it has
provided for all things with so great wisdom, equity, and judgement, that
the most ancient legislators, Greek and Roman, having had some knowledge of
it, have borrowed from it their principal laws; this is evident from what
are called the Twelve Tables, and from the other proofs which Josephus
gives.

But this law is at the same time the severest and strictest of all in
respect to their religious worship, imposing on this people, in order to
keep them to their duty, a thousand peculiar and painful observances, on
pain of death. Whence it is very astonishing that it has been constantly
preserved during many centuries by a people, rebellious and impatient as
this one was; while all other states have changed their laws from time to
time, although these were far more lenient.

The book which contains this law, the first of all, is itself the most
ancient book in the world, those of Homer, Hesiod, and others, being six or
seven hundred years later.

621. The creation of the deluge being past, and God no longer requiring to
destroy the world, nor to create it anew, nor to give such great signs of
Himself, He began to establish a people on the earth, purposely formed, who
were to last until the coming of the people whom the Messiah should fashion
by His spirit.

622. The creation of


STranger

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--Those who make antitheses by forcing words are
like those who make false windows for symmetry. Their rule is not to speak
accurately, but to make apt figures of speech.

28. Symmetry is what we see at a glance; based on the fact that there is no
reason for any difference, and based also on the face of man; whence it
happens that symmetry is only wanted in breadth, not in height or depth.

29. When we see a natural style, we are astonished and delighted; for we
expected to see an author, and we find a man. Whereas those who have good
taste, and who, seeing a book, expect to find a man, are quite surprised to
find an author. Plus poetice quam humane locutus es.2 Those honour Nature
well who teach that she can speak on everything, even on theology.

30. We only consult the ear because the heart is wanting. The rule is
uprightness.

Beauty of omission, of judgement.

31. All the false beauties which we blame in Cicero have their admirers, and
in great number.

32. There is a certain standard of grace and beauty which consists in a
certain relatio


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