[EE] job opening in NE Ohio

[peis...@ridgid.com]

There is a job opening in beautiful N.E. Ohio with Ridge Tool, a division of Emerson Electric.

If you are an EE who has worked with 8-bit processors (mainly PIC and 8051) and can design the surrounding circuitry using a schematic capture program, select components, do the board layout, build the prototype, and write the software, then please send your current resume to peis...@ridgid.com

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[Anand Gadiyar]

On 6/13/07, peis...@ridgid.com <peis...@ridgid.com> wrote:
> There is a job opening in beautiful N.E. Ohio with Ridge Tool, a division of Emerson Electric.
>
> If you are an EE who has worked with 8-bit processors (mainly PIC and 8051) and can design the surrounding circuitry using a schematic capture program, select components, do the board layout, build the prototype, and write the software, then please send your current resume to peis...@ridgid.com
>

<Not serious>

Any chance I can get the job? I live in India. :)

-Anand

[peis...@ridgid.com]

piclist...@mit.edu wrote:
> <Not serious>
>
> Any chance I can get the job? I live in India. :)

<serious>
we have a facility in Pune, but that position was filled two weeks ago...

[Jeff Findley]

<peis...@ridgid.com> wrote in message
news:54CD153ECCAF4540B841...@cosrvmx01.rtc.ts.local...

> piclist...@mit.edu wrote:
>> <Not serious>
>>
>> Any chance I can get the job? I live in India. :)
>
> <serious>
> we have a facility in Pune, but that position was filled two weeks ago...

The company I work for is in the engineering software business (PICs are a
hobby for me), the turnover rate in Pune is so high, you just have to wait a
few weeks for a new opening to turn up.

Jeff
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safety"
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[Joshua Shriver]

High burnout rate? Lack of knowledge and quitting? What do you think
is the cause of high turnover.

> The company I work for is in the engineering software business (PICs are a
> hobby for me), the turnover rate in Pune is so high, you just have to wait a
> few weeks for a new opening to turn up.
>
> Jeff
--

[David VanHorn]

Hmm.. Would have sounded like a good fit, and closer to home, but I
already took a position in pittsburgh.

[Carl Denk]

Other than being in rust belt, it's neat around here, bike and hiking
trails everywhere, Cleveland pops Orchestra has a labor day concert on
our little town's court house steps, no hurricanes, poisonous snakes,
insects. But we do have deer (son-in-law hit one on I-271 last week).
Housing is modest priced with a wide variety. This facility (I don't
work there) is about 30 miles west of Cleveland and 10 miles South of
Lake Erie and has a reputation of being good to their employees.

[Bob Blick]

Lack of safety guards on the machinery?

[peis...@ridgid.com]

piclist...@mit.edu wrote:
> But we do have deer
> (son-in-law hit one on I-271 last week).

and snow. and cloudcover in the winter...

> This facility
> (I don't work there) is about 30 miles west of Cleveland and
> 10 miles South of Lake Erie and has a reputation of being good to
> their employees.

yeah, i have been very happy here the past thirteen years. And had
a lot of opportunities. Most our employees tend to stay around for
a while (certainly not all).

It is primarily an mechanical design house, so the EE would be the
top-dog EE, so to speak. Largely self-directed.

If anyone is interested, I have a job posting in word that I would
gladly forward. Maybe you know someone that is looking. Today is
the last day of internal posting (we always post these internally
for current employees before going outside)

> David VanHorn wrote:
>> Hmm.. Would have sounded like a good fit, and closer to home, but I
>> already took a position in pittsburgh.

nuts.

[PAUL James]

Carl,

Would this be anywhere clode to Loraine?

Regards,

Jim

[Jeff Findley]

"Joshua Shriver" <jshr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ec2f06de0706151219r42e...@mail.gmail.com...

> High burnout rate? Lack of knowledge and quitting? What do you think
> is the cause of high turnover.
>
>
>> The company I work for is in the engineering software business (PICs are
>> a
>> hobby for me), the turnover rate in Pune is so high, you just have to
>> wait a
>> few weeks for a new opening to turn up.
>>

>From what I can tell, it looks like they're jumping from job to job, chasing
pay raises, much as programmers in the US did before the Internet bubble
burst.

Jeff
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
safety"
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[Carl Denk]

Elyria, just (5 miles) South of Lorain. It's Ridgid tool, the red pipe
wrench people, but the do a lot more than that including the See Snake.
see http://www.grainger.com
search key words for "See Snake"

I have lived in the area for 35 years.

[PAUL James]

Carl,

My wife has a cousin that lives in Elyria. I can't recall the exact
address right off,
but I could take you there. They live near a place called Dairy Treat
or Tasty Treat or
something like that.

Is the furniture store (I think it's a furniture store) that has the old
man rocking on
the side of the building still there?

My wife's sister and brother in law used to live on Palm Ave in Loraine.

[Carl Denk]

Tasty treat is on the near northeast side of Elyria, it got torn down
and rebuilt recently. THe rocking chair is still there on the corner of
State route 57 and North Ridge road. It's a HVAC repair company. We are
in Lagrange, 5 miles south of Elyria off state route 301. It's
semi-rural with lots of Field corn and Soy beams planted. Your relatives
are within a mile of the Ridgid tool plant.

[Charles Craft]

Grew up in Pittsburgh so always interested in how it's reinventing.
Who and where did you go to work for?

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>To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <pic...@mit.edu>
>Subject: Re: [EE] job opening in NE Ohio
>

[Olin Lathrop]

> It's Ridgid tool, the red pipe wrench people

Sounds more like a division of Phizer.

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[Carl Denk]

Don't think so, try a major subsidiary of Emerson Electric Co. Some of
the other things in the area include Parker Hannifin (Aircraft
hydraulics, fuel pumps, brakes and wheels), Bendix truck brakes (Anti
Lock, big disc brakes - lots of high tech.), Invacare (Medical including
power wheelchairs), Cleveland air traffic control center

[Jinx]

> >> It's Ridgid tool, the red pipe wrench people

> > Sounds more like a division of Phizer.

> Don't think so

Olin's joke zoomed straight passed you Carl

[Carl Denk]

What can I say! :~ I still don't get it, elaborate! Sometimes I
can't see the forest due to the trees.

[Jinx]

> What can I say! :~ I still don't get it, elaborate! Sometimes I
> can't see the forest due to the trees.

Heard of Viagra ?

[Carl Denk]

Yep.

[go...@cox.net]

Relax Carl - Joe lives downwind of North Auckland... :)

[Carl Denk]

Oh, I am very relaxed, just came back from Local astronomy club had open
house at the near metro park, was star gazing a bit.

p.s. If you didn't pickup on it, Since I haven't purchased any Phizer
products, I couldn't make the connection with the little blue pill. :)
:) The other thing is somewhat related to the Ridgid calendar, which was
available free to good customers at plumbing supply houses. I see the
calendar can now be purchased in the states only. See:
http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Calendar/EN/index.htm
Was/is the calendar available in the Southern Hemisphere?

[Neil Baylis]

> Was/is the calendar available in the Southern Hemisphere?

It's similar, but with pictures of sheep.

[Carlos A. Marcano V.]

Should be Pfizer.

Regards,

Carlos.

Jinx escribió:

[Jinx]

> > Was/is the calendar available in the Southern Hemisphere?
>
> It's similar, but with pictures of sheep.

Hey hey !

"I was just helping it over this fence, honest"

[Anand Gadiyar]

On 6/16/07, Jeff Findley <jeff.f...@ugs.com> wrote:
>
> "Joshua Shriver" <jshr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ec2f06de0706151219r42e...@mail.gmail.com...
> > High burnout rate? Lack of knowledge and quitting? What do you think
> > is the cause of high turnover.
> >
> >
> >> The company I work for is in the engineering software business (PICs are
> >> a
> >> hobby for me), the turnover rate in Pune is so high, you just have to
> >> wait a
> >> few weeks for a new opening to turn up.
> >>
>
> >From what I can tell, it looks like they're jumping from job to job, chasing
> pay raises, much as programmers in the US did before the Internet bubble
> burst.

I second that. It appears that there is a significant demand and
supply doesn't seem to match up to it.

[Alan B. Pearce]

>I see the calendar can now be purchased in the states only.
>See: http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Calendar/EN/index.htm

I didn't think it was politically correct to make that sort of calendar
these days. Didn't Pirelli (the tyre company) give up on doing their long
established one?

[peis...@ridgid.com]

piclist...@mit.edu wrote:
>> I see the calendar can now be purchased in the states only.
>> See: http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Calendar/EN/index.htm
>
> I didn't think it was politically correct to make that sort
> of calendar these days. Didn't Pirelli (the tyre company)
> give up on doing their long established one?

We tried to replace it with more politically correct
images afew years ago. There was such a customer uproar that
it was changed back immediately.

[Carl Denk]

I can't speak for the company, but several years ago there was a fuss
about it as offensive. I don't know the what happened since then history
wise. It used to be there was a calendar hanging in nearly every shop
that had anything to do with construction and maintenance. Today in the
USA it is not thought of being good taste to display one in particular
in areas accesible to any gender. But I believe the RIdgid calendars are
tastefully done, and not in the same class as other modern day calendars
(playboy, hustler, etc.). My wife has some years back stopped by the
Ridgid plant and picked calendars for me to take to work. :) And I
guess this is getting away from the [EE] thread.

[Alan B. Pearce]

>... Everything Erotic ...

Hmmm well that gives a whole new meaning to [EE] ....

[Carl Denk]

I didn't say that, just haven't seen anything about Ohm's law, frequency
of oscillators, etc. in a while on this thread. :)

Roger, in Bangkok wrote:
> Ya mean Everything Erotic is OT ... ?!
>
> On 6/18/07, Carl Denk <cd...@alltel.net> wrote:
>
>> ... I guess this is getting away from the [EE] thread.

[Peter Todd]

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> >I see the calendar can now be purchased in the states only.
> >See: http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Calendar/EN/index.htm
>
> I didn't think it was politically correct to make that sort of calendar
> these days. Didn't Pirelli (the tyre company) give up on doing their long
> established one?

Sheesh, at my school the photography department puts out a self-made
calendar like that every year and no-one complains... Then again, they
include a few guys in it too...

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[Roger, in Bangkok]

Ya mean Everything Erotic is OT ... ?!

On 6/18/07, Carl Denk <cd...@alltel.net> wrote:
>

> ... I guess this is getting away from the [EE] thread.

[James Newtons Massmind]

> >> I see the calendar can now be purchased in the states only.
> >> See: http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Calendar/EN/index.htm
> >
> > I didn't think it was politically correct to make that sort of
> > calendar these days. Didn't Pirelli (the tyre company) give up on
> > doing their long established one?
>
> We tried to replace it with more politically correct images
> afew years ago. There was such a customer uproar that it was
> changed back immediately.
>

Given the company name, it will likely be the last bastion of tool girl
calendars...

...as long as the ladies can have equal time, I see that as a good thing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/13/ap/national/mainD8KNKEB00.shtml
"(AP) A group of Marines and ex-Marines who fought in Iraq _ including two
wounded there _ is featured in a beefcake calendar being sold to help
wounded veterans. "

The trick would be getting Rigid (or anyone else) to post a link to the
veterans beefcake calendar from the page for their cheesecake calendar.
http://www.freedomisnotfree.com I can't imagine that Rigids customers would
object to that, and it would do a lot to quiet any feminine groups that
might be offended.

No matter what your political leaning, you have to admit that these veterans
deserve more than they get, and that it is a healthy thing for the ladies to
be able to look at something nice as well.

Pass this idea on to the management?

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[Nate Duehr]

Alan B. Pearce wrote:
>> I see the calendar can now be purchased in the states only.
>> See: http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Calendar/EN/index.htm
>
> I didn't think it was politically correct to make that sort of calendar
> these days. Didn't Pirelli (the tyre company) give up on doing their long
> established one?

Uh-oh. Someone better let the Hooters PR department know, right away.

LOL. Much ado over nothing.

Nate

[Alan B. Pearce]

>Given the company name, it will likely be the last bastion of
>tool girl calendars...

<VBG>

>...as long as the ladies can have equal time, I see that as a

>good thing. ...

>The trick would be getting Rigid (or anyone else) to post a
>link to the veterans beefcake calendar from the page for
>their cheesecake calendar. http://www.freedomisnotfree.com
>

>No matter what your political leaning, you have to admit that
>these veterans deserve more than they get, and that it is a
>healthy thing for the ladies to be able to look at something
>nice as well.
>
>Pass this idea on to the management?

Come to think of it, the girls in the pictures of the Rigid calendar are as
well dressed as any you could see on any sunny beach these days, the
calendars that tend to be regarded as 'un-PC' tend to have them less covered
...

And then there are the charity calendars, like
http://www.daelnet.co.uk/rylstonewi/ as featured in the movie 'Calendar
Girls', or the various ones firemen around here do for other charities...

[Tony Smith]

> >veterans beefcake calendar from the page for their
> cheesecake calendar.
> >http://www.freedomisnotfree.com
> >
> >No matter what your political leaning, you have to admit that these
> >veterans deserve more than they get, and that it is a
> healthy thing for
> >the ladies to be able to look at something nice as well.
> >
> >Pass this idea on to the management?
>
> Come to think of it, the girls in the pictures of the Rigid
> calendar are as well dressed as any you could see on any
> sunny beach these days, the calendars that tend to be
> regarded as 'un-PC' tend to have them less covered ...
>
> And then there are the charity calendars, like
> http://www.daelnet.co.uk/rylstonewi/ as featured in the movie
> 'Calendar Girls', or the various ones firemen around here do
> for other charities...

So can the PicList round up enough eye-candy for a calendar?

I brough an oldish book (last century) into work yesterday, and found a
photo of myself wearing a yellow suit tucked inside. Dunno about eye-candy,
but it caused a bit of mirth. One bloke admitted to owning a pale blue
safari suit; he claimed his mother brought it, and he only wore it once.

It could be the "badly dressed engineers of PicList" calender. Groovy.

Tony

[Peter Todd]

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> So can the PicList round up enough eye-candy for a calendar?
>
> I brough an oldish book (last century) into work yesterday, and found a
> photo of myself wearing a yellow suit tucked inside. Dunno about eye-candy,
> but it caused a bit of mirth. One bloke admitted to owning a pale blue
> safari suit; he claimed his mother brought it, and he only wore it once.
>
> It could be the "badly dressed engineers of PicList" calender. Groovy.

Awesome, I'll send in some pictures of me caving... just immaculately
dressed and smelling of mud.... Or maybe some when I still wore a fanny
pack...

My first girlfriend way back in grade 9 took all of about three weeks to
quite literally march me off downtown and have me buy clothes that
weren't so horribly dorky. At that tender young age I was already
wearing more than my share of computer tradeshow swag... I'd already
found that getting into Comdex (18+) at the age of about 13 involved
nothing more than wearing a tie, smiling, and claiming I owned a really
good razor.

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[Timothy J. Weber]

Peter Todd wrote:
>> It could be the "badly dressed engineers of PicList" calender. Groovy.
>
> Awesome, I'll send in some pictures of me caving... just immaculately
> dressed and smelling of mud.... Or maybe some when I still wore a fanny
> pack...

The calendar would also include each month's PIClister's favorite
12-line snippet of PIC assembly, and a one-sentence Lesson Learned
Through Failure.

My two most recent:

"Check for unrouted traces before sending the Gerbers off. ...Idiot."

(why isn't that part of the Eagle DRC??)

and

"When making an Eagle package, don't take the pin numbers from a diagram
in the data sheet that shows the package... upside down..."
--
Timothy J. Weber
http://timothyweber.org

[Alan B. Pearce]

>"When making an Eagle package, don't take the pin
>numbers from a diagram in the data sheet that shows
>the package... upside down..."

yeah, its a bit hard to put surface mount packages on the other side of the
board to the pads.

Bring back Through Hole Components I say. .......

[Peter Todd]

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On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 10:50:18AM -0400, Timothy J. Weber wrote:
> Peter Todd wrote:
> >> It could be the "badly dressed engineers of PicList" calender. Groovy.
> >
> > Awesome, I'll send in some pictures of me caving... just immaculately
> > dressed and smelling of mud.... Or maybe some when I still wore a fanny
> > pack...
>
> The calendar would also include each month's PIClister's favorite
> 12-line snippet of PIC assembly, and a one-sentence Lesson Learned
> Through Failure.
>
> My two most recent:
>
> "Check for unrouted traces before sending the Gerbers off. ...Idiot."
>
> (why isn't that part of the Eagle DRC??)

Lord knows...

"Print out a 1:1 copy of your gerbers and see if the mounting holes on
your board are in the same galaxy as the ones on your associated LCD
screen... idiot."

> "When making an Eagle package, don't take the pin numbers from a diagram
> in the data sheet that shows the package... upside down..."

Nice... I caught myself happily laying out traces to an IC recently on a
complex double sided board, LED digits on one side, smd parts on the
other. Unfortunately said IC and the digits were on the same side...
stupid xpcb and it's lack of keepouts...

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[Dave Tweed]

Timothy J. Weber <t...@timothyweber.org> wrote:
> The calendar would also include each month's PIClister's favorite
> 12-line snippet of PIC assembly, and a one-sentence Lesson Learned
> Through Failure.
>
> My two most recent:
>
> "Check for unrouted traces before sending the Gerbers off. ...Idiot."
>
> (why isn't that part of the Eagle DRC??)

Actually, that's an easy one -- if you are hand-routing any portion of
your layout, you want to be able to get a clean DRC before you give the
autorouter a crack at the rest of it.

It's easy enough to type "rats" and get the message "Nothing to do!" if
there are no more airwires.

-- Dave Tweed

[Timothy J. Weber]

Dave Tweed wrote:
> Timothy J. Weber <t...@timothyweber.org> wrote:
>> "Check for unrouted traces before sending the Gerbers off. ...Idiot."
>>
>> (why isn't that part of the Eagle DRC??)
>
> Actually, that's an easy one -- if you are hand-routing any portion of
> your layout, you want to be able to get a clean DRC before you give the
> autorouter a crack at the rest of it.

Good point.

> It's easy enough to type "rats" and get the message "Nothing to do!" if
> there are no more airwires.

Beautiful. Never noticed that message before. Thanks!

--
Timothy J. Weber
http://timothyweber.org

[Alan B. Pearce]

>> "Check for unrouted traces before sending the Gerbers off. ...Idiot."
>>
>> (why isn't that part of the Eagle DRC??)
>

>It's easy enough to type "rats" and get the message "Nothing to do!" if
>there are no more airwires.

I don't know how Eagle works, but in Orcad I make a point of turning off all
the layers and showing only the global layer to see if there is any rats
nest left - even tiny dots get chased down and sorted out.

[Carl Denk]

Don't think Orcad or Eagle are located in NE Ohio, maybe change the
subject line :)

[Timothy J. Weber]

Alan B. Pearce wrote:
>> "When making an Eagle package, don't take the pin
>> numbers from a diagram in the data sheet that shows
>> the package... upside down..."
>
> yeah, its a bit hard to put surface mount packages on the other side of the
> board to the pads.

Oh, it's simple if you don't mind flipping the LED modules upside
down... Makes them a bit hard to see, but so what...

> Bring back Through Hole Components I say. .......

Yeah! I prefer the feel of a boom box cassette player over an iPod any
day. :)

--
Timothy J. Weber
http://timothyweber.org

[Timothy J. Weber]

Peter Todd wrote:
> "Print out a 1:1 copy of your gerbers and see if the mounting holes on
> your board are in the same galaxy as the ones on your associated LCD
> screen... idiot."

Yes, I've made that rule for myself. Several times. Still don't follow
it...

> Nice... I caught myself happily laying out traces to an IC recently on a
> complex double sided board, LED digits on one side, smd parts on the
> other. Unfortunately said IC and the digits were on the same side...
> stupid xpcb and it's lack of keepouts...

Scotty said we canna change the laws o' physics, but some days I'd
settle for a slight change in the laws of geometry.

--
Timothy J. Weber
http://timothyweber.org

[Carl Denk]

My father (a house builder) had an older generation carpenter working
for him. He said "I don't know what's wrong, I cut the wood board off
twice and it's still TOO SHORT!"

Timothy J. Weber wrote:
> Alan B. Pearce wrote:
>
>>> "When making an Eagle package, don't take the pin
>>> numbers from a diagram in the data sheet that shows
>>> the package... upside down..."
>>>
>> yeah, its a bit hard to put surface mount packages on the other side of the
>> board to the pads.
>>
>
> Oh, it's simple if you don't mind flipping the LED modules upside
> down... Makes them a bit hard to see, but so what...
>
>
>> Bring back Through Hole Components I say. .......
>>
>
> Yeah! I prefer the feel of a boom box cassette player over an iPod any
> day. :)
>
--

[Nate Duehr]

Tony Smith wrote:

> So can the PicList round up enough eye-candy for a calendar?

Depends on how you look in a bikini.

Nate

[Peter Todd]

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On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 05:51:23PM -0400, Timothy J. Weber wrote:
> Peter Todd wrote:
> > "Print out a 1:1 copy of your gerbers and see if the mounting holes on
> > your board are in the same galaxy as the ones on your associated LCD
> > screen... idiot."
>
> Yes, I've made that rule for myself. Several times. Still don't follow
> it...
>
> > Nice... I caught myself happily laying out traces to an IC recently on a
> > complex double sided board, LED digits on one side, smd parts on the
> > other. Unfortunately said IC and the digits were on the same side...
> > stupid xpcb and it's lack of keepouts...
>
> Scotty said we canna change the laws o' physics, but some days I'd
> settle for a slight change in the laws of geometry.

Oddly enough on that same I ended up kinda changing the laws of
geometry, or at least layout.

See, these are rather large, current sucking, 2.5" high 7 segment leds.
In my usual fashion I figured I'd put one 1.5A 7808 regulator per led to
drive the common anodes.

But it's such a crowded board, oh where oh well will I put all those
regulators?

Fortunately the LEDs actually have two parallelogram shaped pockets on
the backside in the middle of upper and lower boxes formed by the digit
segments...

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[Jinx]

> Depends on how you look in a bikini.

You only have to ask

Mum says I look pretty

(ewwww)

[Timothy J. Weber]

Peter Todd wrote:
> But it's such a crowded board, oh where oh well will I put all those
> regulators?
>
> Fortunately the LEDs actually have two parallelogram shaped pockets on
> the backside in the middle of upper and lower boxes formed by the digit
> segments...

Hee hee! You made a board layout joke!

Best I've been able to do in that regard is to rotate a 9V battery by
something like 18 degrees in order to fit it in amongst some standoffs.
Fit so tightly, I didn't need to do anything extra to hold it
stationary, even when you shake the case. But that was mainly serendipity.

--
Timothy J. Weber
http://timothyweber.org

[wouter van ooijen]

> > "Print out a 1:1 copy of your gerbers and see if the
> mounting holes on
> > your board are in the same galaxy as the ones on your
> associated LCD
> > screen... idiot."

Gerbview?

Or just send the .brd file to your boardhouse (if it is Olimex), no need
to gerber....

Wouter van Ooijen

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[Tony Smith]

> Tony Smith wrote:
>
> > So can the PicList round up enough eye-candy for a calendar?
>
> Depends on how you look in a bikini.

Gotta be better than the yellow suit, right? Ok, maybe not.

Tony

[James Newtons Massmind]

This post is a lot funnier in the PICList archive viewer at
http://www.piclist.com/techref/postbot.asp with Jinx's mug shot next to it.

---
James.

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-----Mensagem original-----
De: piclist...@mit.edu [mailto:piclist...@mit.edu] Em nome de
peis...@ridgid.com
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de junho de 2007 13:43
Para: pic...@mit.edu
Assunto: [EE] job opening in NE Ohio

There is a job opening in beautiful N.E. Ohio with Ridge Tool, a
division of Emerson Electric.

If you are an EE who has worked with 8-bit processors (mainly PIC and
8051) and can design the surrounding circuitry using a schematic capture
program, select components, do the board layout, build the prototype,
and write the software, then please send your current resume to
peis...@ridgid.com

[Peter Todd]

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On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 08:24:17PM -0400, Timothy J. Weber wrote:
> Peter Todd wrote:
> > But it's such a crowded board, oh where oh well will I put all those
> > regulators?
> >
> > Fortunately the LEDs actually have two parallelogram shaped pockets on
> > the backside in the middle of upper and lower boxes formed by the digit
> > segments...
>
> Hee hee! You made a board layout joke!

That's worse than Star Trek jokes isn't it?

> Best I've been able to do in that regard is to rotate a 9V battery by
> something like 18 degrees in order to fit it in amongst some standoffs.
> Fit so tightly, I didn't need to do anything extra to hold it
> stationary, even when you shake the case. But that was mainly serendipity.

I once did that on a project too. I had to fit 64 circuit boards, each
controlling a stepper motor, onto a big 2ft by 2ft plate. I'll have to
admit I designed the motor driver boards first without thinking how I
was gonna fit 'em all in. (hey, I was working 12-16 hours days for a
month...)

Of course they didn't fit length wise until I tilted them ever so
slightly...

http://petertodd.org/art/8-2-automaton/imgs/pcb-assembly-full.jpg

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[Timothy J. Weber]

Peter Todd wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 08:24:17PM -0400, Timothy J. Weber wrote:
>> Hee hee! You made a board layout joke!
>
> That's worse than Star Trek jokes isn't it?

Yes, much. Or better.

> Of course they didn't fit length wise until I tilted them ever so
> slightly...
>
> http://petertodd.org/art/8-2-automaton/imgs/pcb-assembly-full.jpg

It's an impressive array, and I'm glad I wasn't there for the final
plugging of motors to drivers.

But... are they tilted up from the horizontal, or just around the
vertical axis? If it's the latter, I'm not sure I get why it helped...
though it definitely looks more aesthetically interesting.

--
Timothy J. Weber
http://timothyweber.org

[Peter Todd]

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On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 03:29:57PM -0400, Timothy J. Weber wrote:
> > Of course they didn't fit length wise until I tilted them ever so
> > slightly...
> >
> > http://petertodd.org/art/8-2-automaton/imgs/pcb-assembly-full.jpg
>
> It's an impressive array, and I'm glad I wasn't there for the final
> plugging of motors to drivers.

Be glad! The leads on the motors are rather short.

> But... are they tilted up from the horizontal, or just around the
> vertical axis? If it's the latter, I'm not sure I get why it helped...
> though it definitely looks more aesthetically interesting.

Looking at it I'm not so sure either. I tried playing around with the
original cad files, the boards are rotated 9.78 degrees, and the after
rotation clearance from board to board is 0.05 less than before rotating
it.

My best guess is that after rotating the *mounting* posts have about
double the clearance between them, an extra tenth of an inch. I must
have been thinking how I was going to get a tool in there to tighten
them.

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[Timothy J. Weber]

Peter Todd wrote:
>>> http://petertodd.org/art/8-2-automaton/imgs/pcb-assembly-full.jpg
>> It's an impressive array, and I'm glad I wasn't there for the final
>> plugging of motors to drivers.
>
> Be glad! The leads on the motors are rather short.

That's what I thought! I always underestimate clearance for boards
wired to one another.

>> But... are they tilted up from the horizontal, or just around the
>> vertical axis? If it's the latter, I'm not sure I get why it helped...
>> though it definitely looks more aesthetically interesting.
>
> Looking at it I'm not so sure either. I tried playing around with the
> original cad files, the boards are rotated 9.78 degrees, and the after
> rotation clearance from board to board is 0.05 less than before rotating
> it.
>
> My best guess is that after rotating the *mounting* posts have about
> double the clearance between them, an extra tenth of an inch. I must
> have been thinking how I was going to get a tool in there to tighten
> them.

Ah!! Now that makes sense.

And maybe the mounting hole drills would be uncomfortably close together?

--
Timothy J. Weber
http://timothyweber.org