So...should our monthly meeting on the first Tuesday of every month?
I'm teaching until 7:30 this semester on Tuesday/Thursday...so another
day would work better if people don't want to meet that late. I can
always show up late.
Anybody else have any preference? Mark? Aaron? Nick? and others?
> So...should our monthly meeting on the first Tuesday of every month?
> I'm teaching until 7:30 this semester on Tuesday/Thursday...so another
> day would work better if people don't want to meet that late. I can
> always show up late.
> Anybody else have any preference? Mark? Aaron? Nick? and others?
I am interested in meetings, but if we had monthly meetings, I might be able to make half of them. Fewer if they were out at gangplank. There are no specific nights that would be better or worse for me.
Meetings are always a challenge in Phoenix for some reason. It seems to take a REALLY big group or some other unifying factor to maintain monthly meetings.
Austin
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com>wrote:
> So nobody wants to meet. Shall we kill the meetings then and just make > it a Google group?
> a.
> On Sep 25, 11:10 pm, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So...should our monthly meeting on the first Tuesday of every month?
> > I'm teaching until 7:30 this semester on Tuesday/Thursday...so another > > day would work better if people don't want to meet that late. I can > > always show up late.
> > Anybody else have any preference? Mark? Aaron? Nick? and others?
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So someone emailed me and said I'm being childish and passive
agressive for suggesting that we kill the meetings. I wasn't being
flippant there. It's a legitimate question. I think Austin's
observations are correct.
With Shaler out-of-town with work and Marc Chung off building
government coalitions...that leaves meeting scheduling and planning to
pretty much one person Mark Ng. He's done a great job. He's made the
meetings relevant and interesting....he made them about doing
something...which I like. I had a hard time with the previous
meetings. But, I know it's draining and a ton of work. So the future
of this depends on more involvement from other people.
Maybe we start of with something quarterly. Maybe it's just workgroup
meetings? I'd like to host a meeting of the people working on the Data
Catalog. I think that would be productive.
On Sep 26, 10:54 pm, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So nobody wants to meet. Shall we kill the meetings then and just make
> it a Google group?
> a.
> On Sep 25, 11:10 pm, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So...should our monthly meeting on the first Tuesday of every month?
> > I'm teaching until 7:30 this semester on Tuesday/Thursday...so another
> > day would work better if people don't want to meet that late. I can
> > always show up late.
> > Anybody else have any preference? Mark? Aaron? Nick? and others?
Another conversation that's been had before, and is worth having again, is the idea of having less frequent (quarterly?) full day hackathons.
I don't think we need to necessarily kill the monthly (previously fortnightly) meetings, but as you put it - "making them about something" was alot of work, and quite often fell to me just teaching something I know (and I think that people got bored of me talking about things I know - our best sessions were generally when others were involved - e.g Ray Niemeir's R session). I'd like to still have a casual monthly meeting that's just beers; unless someone steps up and organises something of more substance (which would, on occasion, still be me).
On 27 September 2011 09:10, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So someone emailed me and said I'm being childish and passive > agressive for suggesting that we kill the meetings. I wasn't being > flippant there. It's a legitimate question. I think Austin's > observations are correct.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Mark Ng <m...@markng.me.uk> wrote: > Another conversation that's been had before, and is worth having > again, is the idea of having less frequent (quarterly?) full day > hackathons.
> I don't think we need to necessarily kill the monthly (previously > fortnightly) meetings, but as you put it - "making them about > something" was alot of work, and quite often fell to me just teaching > something I know (and I think that people got bored of me talking > about things I know - our best sessions were generally when others > were involved - e.g Ray Niemeir's R session). I'd like to still have > a casual monthly meeting that's just beers; unless someone steps up > and organises something of more substance (which would, on occasion, > still be me).
> On 27 September 2011 09:10, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So someone emailed me and said I'm being childish and passive > > agressive for suggesting that we kill the meetings. I wasn't being > > flippant there. It's a legitimate question. I think Austin's > > observations are correct.
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There is good sense in Marks suggestion. By _AT LEAST_ meeting regularly for a beer or whatever the schedule gets set and then people have something to plan for. Then we can raise the bar and start doing occasional talks. Or at least have a venue and somewhat engaged bodies for cases when speakers come along. Our census person for example, we have a speaker but lack inertia.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mark Ng <m...@markng.me.uk> wrote: > Another conversation that's been had before, and is worth having > again, is the idea of having less frequent (quarterly?) full day > hackathons.
> I don't think we need to necessarily kill the monthly (previously > fortnightly) meetings, but as you put it - "making them about > something" was alot of work, and quite often fell to me just teaching > something I know (and I think that people got bored of me talking > about things I know - our best sessions were generally when others > were involved - e.g Ray Niemeir's R session). I'd like to still have > a casual monthly meeting that's just beers; unless someone steps up > and organises something of more substance (which would, on occasion, > still be me).
> On 27 September 2011 09:10, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So someone emailed me and said I'm being childish and passive > > agressive for suggesting that we kill the meetings. I wasn't being > > flippant there. It's a legitimate question. I think Austin's > > observations are correct.
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> There is good sense in Marks suggestion. By _AT LEAST_ meeting regularly
> for a beer or whatever the schedule gets set and then people have something
> to plan for. Then we can raise the bar and start doing occasional talks.
> Or at least have a venue and somewhat engaged bodies for cases when
> speakers come along. Our census person for example, we have a speaker but
> lack inertia.
> Austin
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mark Ng <m...@markng.me.uk> wrote:
> > Another conversation that's been had before, and is worth having
> > again, is the idea of having less frequent (quarterly?) full day
> > hackathons.
> > I don't think we need to necessarily kill the monthly (previously
> > fortnightly) meetings, but as you put it - "making them about
> > something" was alot of work, and quite often fell to me just teaching
> > something I know (and I think that people got bored of me talking
> > about things I know - our best sessions were generally when others
> > were involved - e.g Ray Niemeir's R session). I'd like to still have
> > a casual monthly meeting that's just beers; unless someone steps up
> > and organises something of more substance (which would, on occasion,
> > still be me).
> > On 27 September 2011 09:10, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > So someone emailed me and said I'm being childish and passive
> > > agressive for suggesting that we kill the meetings. I wasn't being
> > > flippant there. It's a legitimate question. I think Austin's
> > > observations are correct.
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> So Oct 4 or 25? Either way I can't make it until after 7:30.
> On Sep 27, 6:54 pm, Austin Godber <god...@gmail.com> wrote: >> There is good sense in Marks suggestion. By _AT LEAST_ meeting regularly >> for a beer or whatever the schedule gets set and then people have something >> to plan for. Then we can raise the bar and start doing occasional talks. >> Or at least have a venue and somewhat engaged bodies for cases when >> speakers come along. Our census person for example, we have a speaker but >> lack inertia.
>> Austin
>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mark Ng <m...@markng.me.uk> wrote: >> > Another conversation that's been had before, and is worth having >> > again, is the idea of having less frequent (quarterly?) full day >> > hackathons.
>> > I don't think we need to necessarily kill the monthly (previously >> > fortnightly) meetings, but as you put it - "making them about >> > something" was alot of work, and quite often fell to me just teaching >> > something I know (and I think that people got bored of me talking >> > about things I know - our best sessions were generally when others >> > were involved - e.g Ray Niemeir's R session). I'd like to still have >> > a casual monthly meeting that's just beers; unless someone steps up >> > and organises something of more substance (which would, on occasion, >> > still be me).
>> > On 27 September 2011 09:10, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > So someone emailed me and said I'm being childish and passive >> > > agressive for suggesting that we kill the meetings. I wasn't being >> > > flippant there. It's a legitimate question. I think Austin's >> > > observations are correct.
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It's been a busy week and I'm just catching up. But I'm glad we're going to meet again. The first-Tuesday workgroup was a casual-but-productive meeting like this before it ran out of steam. That's where the Recast project was created and where a lot of the work on it took place. It's also the setting where the broadest range of people can participate. For instance, I can't do much of the technical work but I know a fair amount about public records and where and how we can get our hands on important government data.
If we limited the group to quarterly hackathons, I probably wouldn't get to participate much. These casual meetings are better for me.
So for now, I'll look forward to our next meeting at 6:30pm Tuesday.
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Mark Ng <m...@markng.me.uk> wrote: > Tuesday 4th, 6:30 - 9pm. The bar at province.
> Mark
> On 28 September 2011 12:56, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So Oct 4 or 25? Either way I can't make it until after 7:30.
> > On Sep 27, 6:54 pm, Austin Godber <god...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> There is good sense in Marks suggestion. By _AT LEAST_ meeting > regularly > >> for a beer or whatever the schedule gets set and then people have > something > >> to plan for. Then we can raise the bar and start doing occasional > talks. > >> Or at least have a venue and somewhat engaged bodies for cases when > >> speakers come along. Our census person for example, we have a speaker > but > >> lack inertia.
> >> Austin
> >> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mark Ng <m...@markng.me.uk> wrote: > >> > Another conversation that's been had before, and is worth having > >> > again, is the idea of having less frequent (quarterly?) full day > >> > hackathons.
> >> > I don't think we need to necessarily kill the monthly (previously > >> > fortnightly) meetings, but as you put it - "making them about > >> > something" was alot of work, and quite often fell to me just teaching > >> > something I know (and I think that people got bored of me talking > >> > about things I know - our best sessions were generally when others > >> > were involved - e.g Ray Niemeir's R session). I'd like to still have > >> > a casual monthly meeting that's just beers; unless someone steps up > >> > and organises something of more substance (which would, on occasion, > >> > still be me).
> >> > On 27 September 2011 09:10, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > > So someone emailed me and said I'm being childish and passive > >> > > agressive for suggesting that we kill the meetings. I wasn't being > >> > > flippant there. It's a legitimate question. I think Austin's > >> > > observations are correct.
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Sounds like we'll have a flurry of topics for Tuesday's meeting! We'll probably even have a recap of the awesomeness of WhereCampPHX + Hack the Map this weekend.
I don't have a ton of time to throw at Recast at the moment, but I definitely want to see it keep moving. We just need to do something with the 90,000 OCR-ready image files I dropped on Mark's head... ;-3)
Mark, what are your thoughts on location? Cronkite? Or a more casual setting?
Thanks, - Brian
Sent from Philadelphia, PA
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Nick Martin <emailnickmar...@gmail.com>wrote:
> It's been a busy week and I'm just catching up. But I'm glad we're going to > meet again. The first-Tuesday workgroup was a casual-but-productive meeting > like this before it ran out of steam. That's where the Recast project was > created and where a lot of the work on it took place. It's also the setting > where the broadest range of people can participate. For instance, I can't do > much of the technical work but I know a fair amount about public records and > where and how we can get our hands on important government data.
> If we limited the group to quarterly hackathons, I probably wouldn't get to > participate much. These casual meetings are better for me.
> So for now, I'll look forward to our next meeting at 6:30pm Tuesday.
> Nick Martin
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Mark Ng <m...@markng.me.uk> wrote:
>> Tuesday 4th, 6:30 - 9pm. The bar at province.
>> Mark
>> On 28 September 2011 12:56, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > So Oct 4 or 25? Either way I can't make it until after 7:30.
>> > On Sep 27, 6:54 pm, Austin Godber <god...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> There is good sense in Marks suggestion. By _AT LEAST_ meeting >> regularly >> >> for a beer or whatever the schedule gets set and then people have >> something >> >> to plan for. Then we can raise the bar and start doing occasional >> talks. >> >> Or at least have a venue and somewhat engaged bodies for cases when >> >> speakers come along. Our census person for example, we have a speaker >> but >> >> lack inertia.
>> >> Austin
>> >> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mark Ng <m...@markng.me.uk> wrote: >> >> > Another conversation that's been had before, and is worth having >> >> > again, is the idea of having less frequent (quarterly?) full day >> >> > hackathons.
>> >> > I don't think we need to necessarily kill the monthly (previously >> >> > fortnightly) meetings, but as you put it - "making them about >> >> > something" was alot of work, and quite often fell to me just teaching >> >> > something I know (and I think that people got bored of me talking >> >> > about things I know - our best sessions were generally when others >> >> > were involved - e.g Ray Niemeir's R session). I'd like to still have >> >> > a casual monthly meeting that's just beers; unless someone steps up >> >> > and organises something of more substance (which would, on occasion, >> >> > still be me).
>> >> > On 27 September 2011 09:10, Longcreative <longcreat...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > > So someone emailed me and said I'm being childish and passive >> >> > > agressive for suggesting that we kill the meetings. I wasn't being >> >> > > flippant there. It's a legitimate question. I think Austin's >> >> > > observations are correct.
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On 29 September 2011 16:38, Brian Shaler <briansha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark, what are your thoughts on location? Cronkite? Or a more casual > setting?
Let's go more casual - especially as Cronkite isn't going to be available to me pretty soon. I originally said the bar at Province, unless I hear any major objections ?
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Mark Ng <m...@markng.me.uk> wrote: > On 29 September 2011 16:38, Brian Shaler <briansha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mark, what are your thoughts on location? Cronkite? Or a more casual > > setting?
> Let's go more casual - especially as Cronkite isn't going to be > available to me pretty soon. I originally said the bar at Province, > unless I hear any major objections ?
> Mark
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