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Jon Spriggs  
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 6:26 am
From: Jon Spriggs <j...@sprig.gs>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:26:53 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2012 6:26 am
Subject: Need advice about frameworks

Hi All,

I've recently taken over the steering wheel of an open source PHP
authentication system [1]. It's got inline HTML, no object orientation
methodology, no unit testing and no database abstraction. Part of the
reason I took it over was because the existing team don't want to do
anything with it, and it's something I quite like the look of.

I'd like to bring it up to date, using classes, unit testing, some way of
letting people deploy using various SQL back-ends, and I was thinking of
using something like Zend, but I have absolutely no idea of what's what in
that space.

So, here's the question; without writing my own framework (again!), what's
the differences between the various existing frameworks, and what's worth
looking at? As it's an open source (GPL) project, I'd like to not stray
into mixing licenses too much!

[1] http://github.com/MOTP-AS
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Chris Maiden  
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 6:32 am
From: Chris Maiden <he...@webgoodness.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:32:53 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2012 6:32 am
Subject: Re: [phpnw] Need advice about frameworks
Hi Jon,

On 1 Oct 2012, at 11:26, Jon Spriggs <j...@sprig.gs> wrote:

> So, here's the question; without writing my own framework (again!), what's the differences between the various existing frameworks, and what's worth looking at? As it's an open source (GPL) project, I'd like to not stray into mixing licenses too much!

I am sure I'll not be the only one to recommend you take a look at Symfony2 - http://symfony.com

Best regards,
Chris


 
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Mei Gwilym  
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 6:45 am
From: Mei Gwilym <mei.gwi...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:45:28 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2012 6:45 am
Subject: Re: [phpnw] Need advice about frameworks

Hi Jon,

Sounds like a great project. But I'm not sure if containing it within a
particular framework is the best idea.

If you write it according to PSR-0 standards (
https://github.com/php-fig/fig-standards/blob/master/accepted/PSR-0.md)
then end users could use Composer to add it to their projects whatever
their framework of choice.

Best of luck with this.

Mei Gwilym

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Mike Hart  
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 7:27 am
From: Mike Hart <mikedh...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:27:35 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2012 7:27 am
Subject: Re: [phpnw] Need advice about frameworks

Hi Jon,

I agree with Chris. I initially went with Zend but have, over the last 6
months, moved to Symfony 2 and will never look back. It's a full stack
framework and has lots of RAD tools.

Mike.

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John Davies  
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 7:55 am
From: John Davies <johnamazindav...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:55:41 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2012 7:55 am
Subject: Re: [phpnw] Need advice about frameworks

I would also recommend taking a look at Code Igniter too.

On 1 October 2012 12:27, Mike Hart <mikedh...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Adam Westbrook  
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 6:42 am
From: Adam Westbrook <snap6s...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:42:24 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2012 6:42 am
Subject: Re: [phpnw] Need advice about frameworks

I'll put an oar in for CodeIgniter - http://codeigniter.com/ - very simple,
very well documented, lots of resources and a decent community. It probably
doesn't have the feature list you might get with Zend, but at the same time
it's much more portable. I'm currently using it for a number of
registration and administration systems and it's holding up great.

Either way I'd say best advice is install a few and play with them, you'll
find one that you get on well with.

Adam Westbrook
www.twitter.com/adampuddlemedia

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Keir Lavelle  
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 3:42 pm
From: Keir Lavelle <keirlavel...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:42:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2012 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: Need advice about frameworks

If you find Zend / Symfony2 overkill, I'd recommend Silex or Slim - both
are very simple "micro-frameworks" which I find less inhibiting to my own
style of coding (I should probably be alarmed by this :P) and another
reason I like them is that I am a big fan of Idiorm - which is a
lightweight orm that makes database interaction extremely simple, worth a
look definitely.


 
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John Davies  
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 4:34 pm
From: John Davies <johnamazindav...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 13:34:47 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2012 4:34 pm
Subject: RE: [phpnw] Re: Need advice about frameworks

For the record and not what was asked, but avoid concrete5 at all costs.
Nice from a user perspective but nightmare to code.

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From: Keir Lavelle
Sent: 01/10/2012 20:42
To: phpnw@googlegroups.com
Subject: [phpnw] Re: Need advice about frameworks

If you find Zend / Symfony2 overkill, I'd recommend Silex or Slim - both
are very simple "micro-frameworks" which I find less inhibiting to my own
style of coding (I should probably be alarmed by this :P) and another
reason I like them is that I am a big fan of Idiorm - which is a
lightweight orm that makes database interaction extremely simple, worth a
look definitely.

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