I wanted to start a new thread based on something Paul said:
> So is it fair to say that one of the websites modules wil be "user group management" and move onto another module idea ?
So, yes, I think that's a fair assumption. There are a number of us here who are dedicated to enhancing communication between the UGs worldwide, and I definitely think that should be a part of the PHP Community.
So, let's split off the discussion into several threads. To keep the UG discussion going, create a thread for that component, and someone should also start a page that keeps track of the features/functionality of that component. I'll leave that to Rafael, Michelangelo, Keith, and Thijs, since you all seem to have a good discussion going here.
But moving along, what are some of the other components we need to accomplish our goals? I think Davey's already thrown out an idea that sounds a little bit like the old #thinktank.
Let's create a jot list of of some high-level ideas and whittle it down to pick a few simple things we can build quickly and release early that will help us gain some traction with the community.
Let's keep it simple at first and then we can add on complexity later, as needed. For example, it sounds like the UG idea could become quite complex, so let's pick the lowest common denominator of that feature set and try to build it first, adding on the other features later in subsequent releases.
> I wanted to start a new thread based on something Paul said:
>> So is it fair to say that one of the websites modules wil be "user
>> group management" and move onto another module idea ?
> So, yes, I think that's a fair assumption. There are a number of us
> here
> who are dedicated to enhancing communication between the UGs
> worldwide,
> and I definitely think that should be a part of the PHP Community.
> So, let's split off the discussion into several threads. To keep the
> UG
> discussion going, create a thread for that component, and someone
> should
> also start a page that keeps track of the features/functionality of
> that
> component. I'll leave that to Rafael, Michelangelo, Keith, and Thijs,
> since you all seem to have a good discussion going here.
> But moving along, what are some of the other components we need to
> accomplish our goals? I think Davey's already thrown out an idea that
> sounds a little bit like the old #thinktank.
> Let's create a jot list of of some high-level ideas and whittle it
> down
> to pick a few simple things we can build quickly and release early
> that
> will help us gain some traction with the community.
> Let's keep it simple at first and then we can add on complexity later,
> as needed. For example, it sounds like the UG idea could become quite
> complex, so let's pick the lowest common denominator of that feature
> set
> and try to build it first, adding on the other features later in
> subsequent releases.
> I wanted to start a new thread based on something Paul said:
>> So is it fair to say that one of the websites modules wil be "user
>> group management" and move onto another module idea ?
> So, yes, I think that's a fair assumption. There are a number of us
> here
> who are dedicated to enhancing communication between the UGs
> worldwide,
> and I definitely think that should be a part of the PHP Community.
> So, let's split off the discussion into several threads. To keep the
> UG
> discussion going, create a thread for that component, and someone
> should
> also start a page that keeps track of the features/functionality of
> that
> component. I'll leave that to Rafael, Michelangelo, Keith, and Thijs,
> since you all seem to have a good discussion going here.
> But moving along, what are some of the other components we need to
> accomplish our goals? I think Davey's already thrown out an idea that
> sounds a little bit like the old #thinktank.
> Let's create a jot list of of some high-level ideas and whittle it
> down
> to pick a few simple things we can build quickly and release early
> that
> will help us gain some traction with the community.
> Let's keep it simple at first and then we can add on complexity later,
> as needed. For example, it sounds like the UG idea could become quite
> complex, so let's pick the lowest common denominator of that feature
> set
> and try to build it first, adding on the other features later in
> subsequent releases.
Davey Shafik wrote: > Perhaps tinychat could also work, as it allows video? Not sure we > want to see some people though (like Keith.)
Good call. I don't want to make the rest of you jealous.
> To be clear, I'm not talking about a podcast, I'm talking just an > informal shoot the shit, chat. Nothing recorded :P
I think this is a good concept, especially if it was done low-key on a Friday or Saturday as sort of a weekly "state of the community" sort of thing. To keep things moving, you're right that it'd have to be live or potentially live-to-tape posted immediately.
Eli and I have talked about this one a number of times... and it gets as far as "yeah, that sounds good!" and then we get busy with other stuff.
>> To be clear, I'm not talking about a podcast, I'm talking just an >> informal shoot the shit, chat. Nothing recorded :P
> I think this is a good concept, especially if it was done low-key on a Friday > or Saturday as sort of a weekly "state of the community" sort of thing. To > keep things moving, you're right that it'd have to be live or potentially > live-to-tape posted immediately.
I really like this idea, too, and I've even been thinking about it for a while, so it looks like we've all been independently arriving at the same idea, which is a good thing.
I'd go so far as to say we *should* record it and post it as a podcast. I think the community would see value in that.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 14:12, Ben Ramsey <b...@benramsey.com> wrote:
> On 10/30/09 12:07 PM, D. Keith Casey Jr. wrote:
> >> To be clear, I'm not talking about a podcast, I'm talking just an
> >> informal shoot the shit, chat. Nothing recorded :P
> > I think this is a good concept, especially if it was done low-key on a
> Friday
> > or Saturday as sort of a weekly "state of the community" sort of thing.
> To
> > keep things moving, you're right that it'd have to be live or potentially
> > live-to-tape posted immediately.
> I really like this idea, too, and I've even been thinking about it for a
> while, so it looks like we've all been independently arriving at the
> same idea, which is a good thing.
> I'd go so far as to say we *should* record it and post it as a podcast.
> I think the community would see value in that.
> On 10/30/09 12:07 PM, D. Keith Casey Jr. wrote:
>>> To be clear, I'm not talking about a podcast, I'm talking just an
>>> informal shoot the shit, chat. Nothing recorded :P
>> I think this is a good concept, especially if it was done low-key
>> on a Friday
>> or Saturday as sort of a weekly "state of the community" sort of
>> thing. To
>> keep things moving, you're right that it'd have to be live or
>> potentially
>> live-to-tape posted immediately.
> I really like this idea, too, and I've even been thinking about it
> for a
> while, so it looks like we've all been independently arriving at the
> same idea, which is a good thing.
> I'd go so far as to say we *should* record it and post it as a
> podcast.
> I think the community would see value in that.
I'm not talking about a discussion, I'm talking about a chat.
LIterally, "how was your week?"
just like IRC — not that there isn't *place* for discussion, and those
SHOULD be recorded,
I'm talking about a vocal alternative to IRC.
> I'm not talking about a discussion, I'm talking about a chat. > LIterally, "how was your week?" > just like IRC — not that there isn't *place* for discussion, and those > SHOULD be recorded, > I'm talking about a vocal alternative to IRC.
Cool. Let's do both. Obviously, we wouldn't record a chat.
So, we'll have "chats" and "discussions" and we can schedule them, using the website to promote their times. We'll post recordings of discussions on the website.
We can figure out the logistics of how to record, where to host the chats/discussions, and all that stuff later. :-)
Talking about community, it would be interesting for newcomers to have a
who's who in the PHP community, at least i know i did a lot of background
before going to Zendcon to know who the people i ran into would be.
Might even be an incentive to get people onto projects so they can "get
their picture up on the wall" ... and we can do it in a more "fun" way not
so much as a simple bio.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 14:34, Ben Ramsey <b...@benramsey.com> wrote:
> On 10/30/09 12:28 PM, Davey Shafik wrote:
> > I'm not talking about a discussion, I'm talking about a chat.
> > LIterally, "how was your week?"
> > just like IRC — not that there isn't *place* for discussion, and those
> > SHOULD be recorded,
> > I'm talking about a vocal alternative to IRC.
> Cool. Let's do both. Obviously, we wouldn't record a chat.
> So, we'll have "chats" and "discussions" and we can schedule them, using
> the website to promote their times. We'll post recordings of discussions
> on the website.
> We can figure out the logistics of how to record, where to host the
> chats/discussions, and all that stuff later. :-)
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Davey Shafik <dsha...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not talking about a discussion, I'm talking about a chat. > LIterally, "how was your week?" > just like IRC — not that there isn't *place* for discussion, and those > SHOULD be recorded, > I'm talking about a vocal alternative to IRC.
> - Davey
These sessions could work much like having a networking session during user group meeting. Start out with the "chat" and at a given point, say "OK, now we're recording a discussion to post." A podcast I was on a few years back got the random banter out of the way first (although some could argue the entire cast was random banter), then we got to the "topics" we had in mind and that worked pretty well. I think scheduling "different" sessions could get unwieldy and potentially confusing. "Oh, I thought this was the discussion... hmmm, I wanted to just have a chat tonight...", etc.
> Talking about community, it would be interesting for newcomers to have a
> who's who in the PHP community, at least i know i did a lot of background
> before going to Zendcon to know who the people i ran into would be.
> Might even be an incentive to get people onto projects so they can "get
> their picture up on the wall" ... and we can do it in a more "fun" way not
> so much as a simple bio.
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 14:34, Ben Ramsey <b...@benramsey.com> wrote:
> > On 10/30/09 12:28 PM, Davey Shafik wrote:
> > > I'm not talking about a discussion, I'm talking about a chat.
> > > LIterally, "how was your week?"
> > > just like IRC — not that there isn't *place* for discussion, and those
> > > SHOULD be recorded,
> > > I'm talking about a vocal alternative to IRC.
> > Cool. Let's do both. Obviously, we wouldn't record a chat.
> > So, we'll have "chats" and "discussions" and we can schedule them, using
> > the website to promote their times. We'll post recordings of discussions
> > on the website.
> > We can figure out the logistics of how to record, where to host the
> > chats/discussions, and all that stuff later. :-)
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:00 PM, CalEvans <c...@calevans.com> wrote:
> I like the idea of a regular chat amongst the community leaders about
> the community. I'm +1 for that.
> How about something like MSFT Live Meeting? there's a java client that
> doesn't require Windows.
> =C=
> On Oct 30, 5:38 pm, Rafael Dohms <rdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Talking about community, it would be interesting for newcomers to have a
>> who's who in the PHP community, at least i know i did a lot of background
>> before going to Zendcon to know who the people i ran into would be.
>> Might even be an incentive to get people onto projects so they can "get
>> their picture up on the wall" ... and we can do it in a more "fun" way not
>> so much as a simple bio.
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 14:34, Ben Ramsey <b...@benramsey.com> wrote:
>> > On 10/30/09 12:28 PM, Davey Shafik wrote:
>> > > I'm not talking about a discussion, I'm talking about a chat.
>> > > LIterally, "how was your week?"
>> > > just like IRC — not that there isn't *place* for discussion, and those
>> > > SHOULD be recorded,
>> > > I'm talking about a vocal alternative to IRC.
>> > Cool. Let's do both. Obviously, we wouldn't record a chat.
>> > So, we'll have "chats" and "discussions" and we can schedule them, using
>> > the website to promote their times. We'll post recordings of discussions
>> > on the website.
>> > We can figure out the logistics of how to record, where to host the
>> > chats/discussions, and all that stuff later. :-)
Sorry I can only reply now, got stuck in a closed network at my
client... but anyways, here goes:
voice chat++
recording chat for podcast++
different people at different times++
This out of the way, the main features and functionality I can think
of at this point (very low level):
pointers for websites for PHP UG's
info/bio about who's who for that PHP UG
documentation about how to attend meetings, contacting UG, finding
UG's in your (vacation) area, etc...
achievements (like PHP TestFest, bughuntday, ...)
The thing is, we are representing the technology that's PHP. This
works in both ways. One way is towards our main audience, the
developers, where we provide them all kinds of stuff (presentations,
social events, community stuff, goodies). But the other way is that
we're also advocates for PHP towards businesses, governments and
educational institutes. So IMHO I think we should have a spot for that
last part too, although I'm not quite sure yet, how to fill it up with
details.
Having podcasts amongst ourselves or with guests can only increase our
reach and people will want to come and see us at events and conferences.
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:00 PM, CalEvans <c...@calevans.com> wrote:
>> I like the idea of a regular chat amongst the community leaders about
>> the community. I'm +1 for that.
>> How about something like MSFT Live Meeting? there's a java client
>> that
>> doesn't require Windows.
>> =C=
>> On Oct 30, 5:38 pm, Rafael Dohms <rdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Talking about community, it would be interesting for newcomers to
>>> have a
>>> who's who in the PHP community, at least i know i did a lot of
>>> background
>>> before going to Zendcon to know who the people i ran into would be.
>>> Might even be an incentive to get people onto projects so they can
>>> "get
>>> their picture up on the wall" ... and we can do it in a more "fun"
>>> way not
>>> so much as a simple bio.
>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 14:34, Ben Ramsey <b...@benramsey.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 10/30/09 12:28 PM, Davey Shafik wrote:
>>>>> I'm not talking about a discussion, I'm talking about a chat.
>>>>> LIterally, "how was your week?"
>>>>> just like IRC — not that there isn't *place* for discussion, and
>>>>> those
>>>>> SHOULD be recorded,
>>>>> I'm talking about a vocal alternative to IRC.
>>>> Cool. Let's do both. Obviously, we wouldn't record a chat.
>>>> So, we'll have "chats" and "discussions" and we can schedule
>>>> them, using
>>>> the website to promote their times. We'll post recordings of
>>>> discussions
>>>> on the website.
>>>> We can figure out the logistics of how to record, where to host the
>>>> chats/discussions, and all that stuff later. :-)
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Ben Ramsey <b...@benramsey.com> wrote:
> Let's create a jot list of of some high-level ideas and whittle it down > to pick a few simple things we can build quickly and release early that > will help us gain some traction with the community.
I would like to see a list of Open Source projects written in PHP (frameworks, apps, whatever), with maybe a summary of each and the main developers for each.
Also, it might be cool to have a Speakers Bureau where those interested in speaking can join, and if a company or user group is looking for a talk on a particular topic, they would have a resource to go to. I'd like to keep a handle on this list, so that only those who have past speaking experience can join. Otherwise we could end up with a whole lot of inexperienced people on there and the value of the list decreases.
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Ben Ramsey <b...@benramsey.com> wrote:
> Let's create a jot list of of some high-level ideas and whittle it
> down
> to pick a few simple things we can build quickly and release early
> that
> will help us gain some traction with the community.
> I would like to see a list of Open Source projects written in PHP
> (frameworks, apps, whatever), with maybe a summary of each and the
> main developers for each.
> Also, it might be cool to have a Speakers Bureau where those
> interested in speaking can join, and if a company or user group is
> looking for a talk on a particular topic, they would have a resource
> to go to. I'd like to keep a handle on this list, so that only those
> who have past speaking experience can join. Otherwise we could end
> up with a whole lot of inexperienced people on there and the value
> of the list decreases.
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Ben Ramsey <b...@benramsey.com> wrote:
>> Let's create a jot list of of some high-level ideas and whittle it down
>> to pick a few simple things we can build quickly and release early that
>> will help us gain some traction with the community.
> I would like to see a list of Open Source projects written in PHP
> (frameworks, apps, whatever), with maybe a summary of each and the main
> developers for each.
> Also, it might be cool to have a Speakers Bureau where those interested in
> speaking can join, and if a company or user group is looking for a talk on a
> particular topic, they would have a resource to go to. I'd like to keep a
> handle on this list, so that only those who have past speaking experience
> can join. Otherwise we could end up with a whole lot of inexperienced people
> on there and the value of the list decreases.
Cal Evans wrote: > I'm +1 the speakers list. Do we qualify members or just allow anyone to sign up?
+1 to Cal's +1 of Elizabeth's idea.
Ideally, we could tie into something like Joind.in to get a widget showing a score, previous presentations, or something like that. No need to duplicate the data...
> Cal Evans wrote:
>> I'm +1 the speakers list. Do we qualify members or just allow
>> anyone to sign up?
> +1 to Cal's +1 of Elizabeth's idea.
> Ideally, we could tie into something like Joind.in to get a widget
> showing a
> score, previous presentations, or something like that. No need to
> duplicate
> the data...
but i would like to see the list have both experienced and non-experienced
speakers, and a way to tell them apart. Part of our efforts here in the
PHPSP group is to get new peopl to become speakers, so we usually open up
our meetings to these people.. so the can dry-run their talks and then
submit to larger conferences. Maybe having a ProSpeakers and a WannaSpeak
list might help local groups find more people.
> On 01 Nov 2009, at 19:49, D. Keith Casey Jr. wrote:
> > Cal Evans wrote:
> >> I'm +1 the speakers list. Do we qualify members or just allow
> >> anyone to sign up?
> > +1 to Cal's +1 of Elizabeth's idea.
> > Ideally, we could tie into something like Joind.in to get a widget
> > showing a
> > score, previous presentations, or something like that. No need to
> > duplicate
> > the data...
+1 to the list
+1 to joind.in
+1 to creating a resource for newbie speakers to get started.
I think if someone has a topic they want to speak on, and a UG wants
to hear it, it makes the experience easier for
the speaker. Especially as if they're local'ish the speaker may
already know the people — or can attend a meeting
or two prior to the talk to get to know them.
> but i would like to see the list have both experienced and non- > experienced speakers, and a way to tell them apart. Part of our
> efforts here in the PHPSP group is to get new peopl to become
> speakers, so we usually open up our meetings to these people.. so
> the can dry-run their talks and then submit to larger conferences.
> Maybe having a ProSpeakers and a WannaSpeak list might help local
> groups find more people.
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 17:25, Michelangelo van Dam
> <drago...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is Chris added to this list ?
> On 01 Nov 2009, at 19:49, D. Keith Casey Jr. wrote:
> > Cal Evans wrote:
> >> I'm +1 the speakers list. Do we qualify members or just allow
> >> anyone to sign up?
> > +1 to Cal's +1 of Elizabeth's idea.
> > Ideally, we could tie into something like Joind.in to get a widget
> > showing a
> > score, previous presentations, or something like that. No need to
> > duplicate
> > the data...
How about this for a module ?
It's been touched on but i'd like to be specific.
The PHP Conferences around the world, I feel for the whole world that
can't make it, we should have video recording, just like Google do on
GoogleVideo/Youtube.
Those videos get millions of hits and i for one, living in scotland,
would highly benefit from those as a lot of the conf's are far far
away.
I'm aware that some of the recent Conf's have audio recordings, but
they get a bit dry and you're soon distracted onto things visually.
Any comments for a "Conferences" module.
This would include.
1) Audio
2) video (optional)
3) Demonstrations (PC recordings. Replication of conference demos)
4) Minutes/Notes of the meeting with web-links mentioned.
Any thoughts please ?
Thanks.
Paul Dragoonis.
On Nov 1, 10:30 pm, Davey Shafik <dsha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 to the list
> +1 to joind.in
> +1 to creating a resource for newbie speakers to get started.
> I think if someone has a topic they want to speak on, and a UG wants
> to hear it, it makes the experience easier for
> the speaker. Especially as if they're local'ish the speaker may
> already know the people — or can attend a meeting
> or two prior to the talk to get to know them.
> - Davey
> On Nov 1, 2009, at 04:20 PM, Rafael Dohms wrote:
> > +1 on the list
> > + on tying in to joind.in
> > but i would like to see the list have both experienced and non-
> > experienced speakers, and a way to tell them apart. Part of our
> > efforts here in the PHPSP group is to get new peopl to become
> > speakers, so we usually open up our meetings to these people.. so
> > the can dry-run their talks and then submit to larger conferences.
> > Maybe having a ProSpeakers and a WannaSpeak list might help local
> > groups find more people.
> > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 17:25, Michelangelo van Dam
> > <drago...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is Chris added to this list ?
> > On 01 Nov 2009, at 19:49, D. Keith Casey Jr. wrote:
> > > Cal Evans wrote:
> > >> I'm +1 the speakers list. Do we qualify members or just allow
> > >> anyone to sign up?
> > > +1 to Cal's +1 of Elizabeth's idea.
> > > Ideally, we could tie into something like Joind.in to get a widget
> > > showing a
> > > score, previous presentations, or something like that. No need to
> > > duplicate
> > > the data...
> > > kc
> > > --
> > > D. Keith Casey, Jr.
> > > CEO, CaseySoftware, LLC
> > >http://CaseySoftware.com- Hide quoted text -
Another idea beign thrown out there that maybe mashs up dopplr/tripit,
speakers list with the UGs. Many of us travel a bit for things - it
would be nice to let the local UG people know who/what speaker is in
town *before* they show up and if they are willing to give a talk to
the group... helps the UG have to organize speakers, allows visitors
to get to meet the group and can let beginner speakers have more
chances to do a talk outside their home user group.
Lig
On Nov 1, 6:49 pm, Paul Dragoonis <dragoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about this for a module ?
> It's been touched on but i'd like to be specific.
> The PHP Conferences around the world, I feel for the whole world that
> can't make it, we should have video recording, just like Google do on
> GoogleVideo/Youtube.
> Those videos get millions of hits and i for one, living in scotland,
> would highly benefit from those as a lot of the conf's are far far
> away.
> I'm aware that some of the recent Conf's have audio recordings, but
> they get a bit dry and you're soon distracted onto things visually.
> Any comments for a "Conferences" module.
> This would include.
> 1) Audio
> 2) video (optional)
> 3) Demonstrations (PC recordings. Replication of conference demos)
> 4) Minutes/Notes of the meeting with web-links mentioned.
> Any thoughts please ?
> Thanks.
> Paul Dragoonis.
> On Nov 1, 10:30 pm, Davey Shafik <dsha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > +1 to the list
> > +1 to joind.in
> > +1 to creating a resource for newbie speakers to get started.
> > I think if someone has a topic they want to speak on, and a UG wants
> > to hear it, it makes the experience easier for
> > the speaker. Especially as if they're local'ish the speaker may
> > already know the people — or can attend a meeting
> > or two prior to the talk to get to know them.
> > - Davey
> > On Nov 1, 2009, at 04:20 PM, Rafael Dohms wrote:
> > > +1 on the list
> > > + on tying in to joind.in
> > > but i would like to see the list have both experienced and non-
> > > experienced speakers, and a way to tell them apart. Part of our
> > > efforts here in the PHPSP group is to get new peopl to become
> > > speakers, so we usually open up our meetings to these people.. so
> > > the can dry-run their talks and then submit to larger conferences.
> > > Maybe having a ProSpeakers and a WannaSpeak list might help local
> > > groups find more people.
> > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 17:25, Michelangelo van Dam
> > > <drago...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Is Chris added to this list ?
> > > On 01 Nov 2009, at 19:49, D. Keith Casey Jr. wrote:
> > > > Cal Evans wrote:
> > > >> I'm +1 the speakers list. Do we qualify members or just allow
> > > >> anyone to sign up?
> > > > +1 to Cal's +1 of Elizabeth's idea.
> > > > Ideally, we could tie into something like Joind.in to get a widget
> > > > showing a
> > > > score, previous presentations, or something like that. No need to
> > > > duplicate
> > > > the data...
> > > > kc
> > > > --
> > > > D. Keith Casey, Jr.
> > > > CEO, CaseySoftware, LLC
> > > >http://CaseySoftware.com-Hide quoted text -
For authentication module how about OpenID only? or Optional OpenID.
What about gravatar for logged in users too, and maybe a stripped down
(clean) style of ReCaptcha!
Reuse of centralised services like the above would also show our
support as a "community" towards existing services.
Anyone wanna +1 me on that? :-)
Regards,
Paul Dragoonis.
On Nov 2, 6:21 pm, lig <ligja...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Another idea beign thrown out there that maybe mashs up dopplr/tripit,
> speakers list with the UGs. Many of us travel a bit for things - it
> would be nice to let the local UG people know who/what speaker is in
> town *before* they show up and if they are willing to give a talk to
> the group... helps the UG have to organize speakers, allows visitors
> to get to meet the group and can let beginner speakers have more
> chances to do a talk outside their home user group.
> Lig
> On Nov 1, 6:49 pm, Paul Dragoonis <dragoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > How about this for a module ?
> > It's been touched on but i'd like to be specific.
> > The PHP Conferences around the world, I feel for the whole world that
> > can't make it, we should have video recording, just like Google do on
> > GoogleVideo/Youtube.
> > Those videos get millions of hits and i for one, living in scotland,
> > would highly benefit from those as a lot of the conf's are far far
> > away.
> > I'm aware that some of the recent Conf's have audio recordings, but
> > they get a bit dry and you're soon distracted onto things visually.
> > Any comments for a "Conferences" module.
> > This would include.
> > 1) Audio
> > 2) video (optional)
> > 3) Demonstrations (PC recordings. Replication of conference demos)
> > 4) Minutes/Notes of the meeting with web-links mentioned.
> > Any thoughts please ?
> > Thanks.
> > Paul Dragoonis.
> > On Nov 1, 10:30 pm, Davey Shafik <dsha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > +1 to the list
> > > +1 to joind.in
> > > +1 to creating a resource for newbie speakers to get started.
> > > I think if someone has a topic they want to speak on, and a UG wants
> > > to hear it, it makes the experience easier for
> > > the speaker. Especially as if they're local'ish the speaker may
> > > already know the people — or can attend a meeting
> > > or two prior to the talk to get to know them.
> > > - Davey
> > > On Nov 1, 2009, at 04:20 PM, Rafael Dohms wrote:
> > > > +1 on the list
> > > > + on tying in to joind.in
> > > > but i would like to see the list have both experienced and non-
> > > > experienced speakers, and a way to tell them apart. Part of our
> > > > efforts here in the PHPSP group is to get new peopl to become
> > > > speakers, so we usually open up our meetings to these people.. so
> > > > the can dry-run their talks and then submit to larger conferences.
> > > > Maybe having a ProSpeakers and a WannaSpeak list might help local
> > > > groups find more people.
> > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 17:25, Michelangelo van Dam
> > > > <drago...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Is Chris added to this list ?
> > > > On 01 Nov 2009, at 19:49, D. Keith Casey Jr. wrote:
> > > > > Cal Evans wrote:
> > > > >> I'm +1 the speakers list. Do we qualify members or just allow
> > > > >> anyone to sign up?
> > > > > +1 to Cal's +1 of Elizabeth's idea.
> > > > > Ideally, we could tie into something like Joind.in to get a widget
> > > > > showing a
> > > > > score, previous presentations, or something like that. No need to
> > > > > duplicate
> > > > > the data...
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Paul Dragoonis <dragoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For authentication module how about OpenID only? or Optional OpenID.
> What about gravatar for logged in users too, and maybe a stripped down
> (clean) style of ReCaptcha!
> Reuse of centralised services like the above would also show our
> support as a "community" towards existing services.
> Anyone wanna +1 me on that? :-)
> Regards,
> Paul Dragoonis.
> On Nov 2, 6:21 pm, lig <ligja...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> Another idea beign thrown out there that maybe mashs up dopplr/tripit,
>> speakers list with the UGs. Many of us travel a bit for things - it
>> would be nice to let the local UG people know who/what speaker is in
>> town *before* they show up and if they are willing to give a talk to
>> the group... helps the UG have to organize speakers, allows visitors
>> to get to meet the group and can let beginner speakers have more
>> chances to do a talk outside their home user group.
>> Lig
>> On Nov 1, 6:49 pm, Paul Dragoonis <dragoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > How about this for a module ?
>> > It's been touched on but i'd like to be specific.
>> > The PHP Conferences around the world, I feel for the whole world that
>> > can't make it, we should have video recording, just like Google do on
>> > GoogleVideo/Youtube.
>> > Those videos get millions of hits and i for one, living in scotland,
>> > would highly benefit from those as a lot of the conf's are far far
>> > away.
>> > I'm aware that some of the recent Conf's have audio recordings, but
>> > they get a bit dry and you're soon distracted onto things visually.
>> > Any comments for a "Conferences" module.
>> > This would include.
>> > 1) Audio
>> > 2) video (optional)
>> > 3) Demonstrations (PC recordings. Replication of conference demos)
>> > 4) Minutes/Notes of the meeting with web-links mentioned.
>> > Any thoughts please ?
>> > Thanks.
>> > Paul Dragoonis.
>> > On Nov 1, 10:30 pm, Davey Shafik <dsha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > +1 to the list
>> > > +1 to joind.in
>> > > +1 to creating a resource for newbie speakers to get started.
>> > > I think if someone has a topic they want to speak on, and a UG wants
>> > > to hear it, it makes the experience easier for
>> > > the speaker. Especially as if they're local'ish the speaker may
>> > > already know the people — or can attend a meeting
>> > > or two prior to the talk to get to know them.
>> > > - Davey
>> > > On Nov 1, 2009, at 04:20 PM, Rafael Dohms wrote:
>> > > > +1 on the list
>> > > > + on tying in to joind.in
>> > > > but i would like to see the list have both experienced and non-
>> > > > experienced speakers, and a way to tell them apart. Part of our
>> > > > efforts here in the PHPSP group is to get new peopl to become
>> > > > speakers, so we usually open up our meetings to these people.. so
>> > > > the can dry-run their talks and then submit to larger conferences.
>> > > > Maybe having a ProSpeakers and a WannaSpeak list might help local
>> > > > groups find more people.
>> > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 17:25, Michelangelo van Dam
>> > > > <drago...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Is Chris added to this list ?
>> > > > On 01 Nov 2009, at 19:49, D. Keith Casey Jr. wrote:
>> > > > > Cal Evans wrote:
>> > > > >> I'm +1 the speakers list. Do we qualify members or just allow
>> > > > >> anyone to sign up?
>> > > > > +1 to Cal's +1 of Elizabeth's idea.
>> > > > > Ideally, we could tie into something like Joind.in to get a widget
>> > > > > showing a
>> > > > > score, previous presentations, or something like that. No need to
>> > > > > duplicate
>> > > > > the data...
Personally I'd like to see it become a verified openid provider - that
is, not only can I authenticate as 'dshafik', but also websites can
link back to a directory that says with absolute certainty that I am
THE Davey Shafik. Would be cool.
- Davey
On Nov 2, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Paul Dragoonis <dragoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For authentication module how about OpenID only? or Optional OpenID.
> What about gravatar for logged in users too, and maybe a stripped down
> (clean) style of ReCaptcha!
> Reuse of centralised services like the above would also show our
> support as a "community" towards existing services.
> Anyone wanna +1 me on that? :-)
> Regards,
> Paul Dragoonis.
> On Nov 2, 6:21 pm, lig <ligja...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> Another idea beign thrown out there that maybe mashs up dopplr/ >> tripit,
>> speakers list with the UGs. Many of us travel a bit for things - it
>> would be nice to let the local UG people know who/what speaker is in
>> town *before* they show up and if they are willing to give a talk to
>> the group... helps the UG have to organize speakers, allows visitors
>> to get to meet the group and can let beginner speakers have more
>> chances to do a talk outside their home user group.
>> Lig
>> On Nov 1, 6:49 pm, Paul Dragoonis <dragoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> How about this for a module ?
>>> It's been touched on but i'd like to be specific.
>>> The PHP Conferences around the world, I feel for the whole world
>>> that
>>> can't make it, we should have video recording, just like Google do
>>> on
>>> GoogleVideo/Youtube.
>>> Those videos get millions of hits and i for one, living in scotland,
>>> would highly benefit from those as a lot of the conf's are far far
>>> away.
>>> I'm aware that some of the recent Conf's have audio recordings, but
>>> they get a bit dry and you're soon distracted onto things visually.
>>> Any comments for a "Conferences" module.
>>> This would include.
>>> 1) Audio
>>> 2) video (optional)
>>> 3) Demonstrations (PC recordings. Replication of conference demos)
>>> 4) Minutes/Notes of the meeting with web-links mentioned.
>>> Any thoughts please ?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Paul Dragoonis.
>>> On Nov 1, 10:30 pm, Davey Shafik <dsha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> +1 to the list
>>>> +1 to joind.in
>>>> +1 to creating a resource for newbie speakers to get started.
>>>> I think if someone has a topic they want to speak on, and a UG
>>>> wants
>>>> to hear it, it makes the experience easier for
>>>> the speaker. Especially as if they're local'ish the speaker may
>>>> already know the people — or can attend a meeting
>>>> or two prior to the talk to get to know them.
>>>> - Davey
>>>> On Nov 1, 2009, at 04:20 PM, Rafael Dohms wrote:
>>>>> +1 on the list
>>>>> + on tying in to joind.in
>>>>> but i would like to see the list have both experienced and non-
>>>>> experienced speakers, and a way to tell them apart. Part of our
>>>>> efforts here in the PHPSP group is to get new peopl to become
>>>>> speakers, so we usually open up our meetings to these people.. so
>>>>> the can dry-run their talks and then submit to larger conferences.
>>>>> Maybe having a ProSpeakers and a WannaSpeak list might help local
>>>>> groups find more people.
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 17:25, Michelangelo van Dam
>>>>> <drago...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Is Chris added to this list ?
>>>>> On 01 Nov 2009, at 19:49, D. Keith Casey Jr. wrote:
>>>>>> Cal Evans wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm +1 the speakers list. Do we qualify members or just allow
>>>>>>> anyone to sign up?
>>>>>> +1 to Cal's +1 of Elizabeth's idea.
>>>>>> Ideally, we could tie into something like Joind.in to get a
>>>>>> widget
>>>>>> showing a
>>>>>> score, previous presentations, or something like that. No need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> duplicate
>>>>>> the data...
