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David Zülke  
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 More options Nov 4 2009, 10:28 am
From: David Zülke <david.zue...@bitextender.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:28:47 +0100
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 10:28 am
Subject: Re: Google Groups: Membership Pending

Don't we already have Symfony representatives? (I googled his name and  
only Symfony came up)

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Paul M Jones  
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 More options Nov 4 2009, 10:41 am
From: Paul M Jones <pmjone...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:41:58 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 10:41 am
Subject: Re: Google Groups: Membership Pending

On Nov 4, 2009, at 09:28 , David Zülke wrote:

> Don't we already have Symfony representatives? (I googled his name  
> and only Symfony came up)

This raises a good question: who all on the list represents which  
projects?

Does each project need more than one or two representatives present?

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David Zülke  
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 More options Nov 4 2009, 10:44 am
From: David Zülke <david.zue...@bitextender.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:44:07 +0100
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 10:44 am
Subject: Re: Google Groups: Membership Pending

On 04.11.2009, at 16:41, Paul M Jones wrote:

> On Nov 4, 2009, at 09:28 , David Zülke wrote:

>> Don't we already have Symfony representatives? (I googled his name
>> and only Symfony came up)

> This raises a good question: who all on the list represents which
> projects?

> Does each project need more than one or two representatives present?

One is enough, I think we agreed back at php|tek that any internal  
coordination is the job of the respective projects.

- David

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Jonathan Wage  
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 More options Nov 4 2009, 10:45 am
From: Jonathan Wage <jonw...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:45:05 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 10:45 am
Subject: Re: Google Groups: Membership Pending

Paul: Each project only gets one vote, the project internally decided what
they vote.

David: He is the "community guy" at servergrove.org. Since each project only
gets one vote, the people who are members of the group won't change that. If
the person is notable and has a reputation worth voting on we should do it.

I say +1 to let him join the group, but he does not have any vote.

- Jon

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David Zülke  
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 More options Nov 4 2009, 10:48 am
From: David Zülke <david.zue...@bitextender.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:48:01 +0100
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 10:48 am
Subject: Re: Google Groups: Membership Pending

Sorry, but this is not a talk show, it's a technical working group. If  
he wants to follow the discussion, he can read the archives. If he  
wants to provide input on behalf of Symfony, he can do it through  
Fabien or you. That was the idea all along, and I don't see why we  
should change it now.

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Jonathan Wage  
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 More options Nov 4 2009, 10:50 am
From: Jonathan Wage <jonw...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:50:12 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 10:50 am
Subject: Re: Google Groups: Membership Pending

So that's a -1 from David...

- Jon

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM, David Zülke
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Nate Abele  
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 More options Nov 4 2009, 10:54 am
From: Nate Abele <nate.ab...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:16 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 10:54 am
Subject: Re: Google Groups: Membership Pending

So that everyone is on the same page (and for organizational / sanity  
purposes), I've started a wiki page where we can list the member  
projects and the representative(s) for each project.

http://groups.google.com/group/php-standards/web/voting-projects-members

I got lazy after 4 entries, please add yourselves.

Also, each project should denote (with a * next to the name, or  
something) the person who is the designated to vote for the given  
project. Finally, anyone not designated to vote, please don't clutter  
up the list with +1 / -1 responses to things, it only makes tallying  
more difficult / annoying.

Thanks,
- Nate

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Nate Abele  
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 More options Nov 4 2009, 11:02 am
From: Nate Abele <nate.ab...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:02:14 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 11:02 am
Subject: Re: Google Groups: Membership Pending

Also, with respect to ServerGrove, I'm gonna have to go with David on  
this one.

Nothing personal, I just don't see the benefit. If somebody can  
demonstrate that a representative of a hosting company has some  
practical value to add to the discussion, I'd be happy to change my  
vote.

Thanks,
- Nate

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Jonathan Wage  
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 More options Nov 4 2009, 11:06 am
From: Jonathan Wage <jonw...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:06:02 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 11:06 am
Subject: Re: Google Groups: Membership Pending

Cool. I added some people to the page. Thanks for starting that.

- Jon

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Fabien POTENCIER  
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 More options Nov 4 2009, 1:05 pm
From: Fabien POTENCIER <fabien.potenc...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:05:26 +0100
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 1:05 pm
Subject: Re: Google Groups: Membership Pending
As said by others, I think each project should only have one vote (the
lead developer/project manager of each project makes sense), but for
bigger projects, I think it also makes sense to accept other core team
members; people who are actually substantially to the project code.

As far as symfony is concerned, I think we already have enough people
representing the project (except for Fabian who is also a big
contributor to the project).

Fabien

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