Re: [PHPNE] Looking for a php developer... off topic
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Alistair MacDonald
May 21, 2012, 6:24:26 AM5/21/12
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Hi,
This is a bit off topic so I have changed the subject. I am fascinated
by the comment that "it will be a paid project". Do you come across
many people doing projects that are not paid? It is something the
design community are complaining about and I was wondering if it is
becoming an issue in the software world as well.
Alistair
This is a bit off topic so I have changed the subject. I am fascinated
by the comment that "it will be a paid project". Do you come across
many people doing projects that are not paid? It is something the
design community are complaining about and I was wondering if it is
becoming an issue in the software world as well.
Alistair
CraftyPixel
May 21, 2012, 11:13:58 AM5/21/12
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Just so people are in no doubt that this is a serious request and not
some freebie
On May 21, 11:24 am, Alistair MacDonald <alistair.macdon...@gmail.com>
wrote:
some freebie
On May 21, 11:24 am, Alistair MacDonald <alistair.macdon...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Alistair MacDonald
May 21, 2012, 11:29:50 AM5/21/12
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I just find it interesting you thought that someone would ignore it because they thought it was a freebie.
Alistair
Alistair
Sam Lambert
May 21, 2012, 11:42:40 AM5/21/12
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Do you think he thought that? Or do you think it was a quickly written request for a developer that is now under an unnecessary amount of scrutiny?
Alistair MacDonald
May 21, 2012, 12:14:43 PM5/21/12
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Sorry if anyone is feeling that, that is not my intention. Perhaps it is because the Design Interest group were making such a thing of not doing spec work that I am wondering about it.
I guess that is my question though, is this just a hastily written email or is this something that is becoming a problem in the PHP world as well. We are all use to adds wanting "graduates" with decades of experience to do a senior job at next to money, but I have not seen any people wanting devs for literally nothing. Does this happen often?
Alistair
I guess that is my question though, is this just a hastily written email or is this something that is becoming a problem in the PHP world as well. We are all use to adds wanting "graduates" with decades of experience to do a senior job at next to money, but I have not seen any people wanting devs for literally nothing. Does this happen often?
Alistair
Robin Scott
May 22, 2012, 7:47:19 AM5/22/12
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Yes, it does. Usually comes in the form of "work for equity" in my experience, rather than "work for money". It is usually worth saying "this is a paid project" so people know whether to bother showing any sort of interest! If you are in the happy situation where you've never been offered work for equity, then you're either lucky, or, frankly, nobody knows about you.
Rob
Rob
Alistair MacDonald
May 22, 2012, 9:01:23 AM5/22/12
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That is interesting (to me, at least).
Yes I have been asked to join startup teams for equity, and I have
done a couple because they were cool projects. This includes Usable
before we got on the Ignite100. Subject to funding being signed off I
am about to do it again later this year. Yes, as Robin hinted at, I
was asked because of reputation and because they know they can not pay
a going rate for the work.
All that being said I can't say I have ever been approached as a code
monkey or web developer in this way, or seen it mentioned in a job
advert for that matter. Perhaps I have just been lucky or that I am
not associated with kind of work that people expect for free.
Alistair
Yes I have been asked to join startup teams for equity, and I have
done a couple because they were cool projects. This includes Usable
before we got on the Ignite100. Subject to funding being signed off I
am about to do it again later this year. Yes, as Robin hinted at, I
was asked because of reputation and because they know they can not pay
a going rate for the work.
All that being said I can't say I have ever been approached as a code
monkey or web developer in this way, or seen it mentioned in a job
advert for that matter. Perhaps I have just been lucky or that I am
not associated with kind of work that people expect for free.
Alistair
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