This is a bit off topic so I have changed the subject. I am fascinated
by the comment that "it will be a paid project". Do you come across
many people doing projects that are not paid? It is something the
design community are complaining about and I was wondering if it is
becoming an issue in the software world as well.
> This is a bit off topic so I have changed the subject. I am fascinated
> by the comment that "it will be a paid project". Do you come across
> many people doing projects that are not paid? It is something the
> design community are complaining about and I was wondering if it is
> becoming an issue in the software world as well.
> Just so people are in no doubt that this is a serious request and not
> some freebie
> On May 21, 11:24 am, Alistair MacDonald <alistair.macdon...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> This is a bit off topic so I have changed the subject. I am fascinated
>> by the comment that "it will be a paid project". Do you come across
>> many people doing projects that are not paid? It is something the
>> design community are complaining about and I was wondering if it is
>> becoming an issue in the software world as well.
> I just find it interesting you thought that someone would ignore it because they thought it was a freebie.
> Alistair
> On 21 May 2012, at 16:13, CraftyPixel <i...@craftypixel.co.uk> wrote:
>> Just so people are in no doubt that this is a serious request and not
>> some freebie
>> On May 21, 11:24 am, Alistair MacDonald <alistair.macdon...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> This is a bit off topic so I have changed the subject. I am fascinated
>>> by the comment that "it will be a paid project". Do you come across
>>> many people doing projects that are not paid? It is something the
>>> design community are complaining about and I was wondering if it is
>>> becoming an issue in the software world as well.
Sorry if anyone is feeling that, that is not my intention. Perhaps it is because the Design Interest group were making such a thing of not doing spec work that I am wondering about it.
I guess that is my question though, is this just a hastily written email or is this something that is becoming a problem in the PHP world as well. We are all use to adds wanting "graduates" with decades of experience to do a senior job at next to money, but I have not seen any people wanting devs for literally nothing. Does this happen often?
Alistair
On 21 May 2012, at 16:42, Sam Lambert <s...@ninjapanda.co.uk> wrote:
> Do you think he thought that? Or do you think it was a quickly written request for a developer that is now under an unnecessary amount of scrutiny?
> On 21 May 2012, at 16:29, Alistair MacDonald wrote:
>> I just find it interesting you thought that someone would ignore it because they thought it was a freebie.
>> Alistair
>> On 21 May 2012, at 16:13, CraftyPixel <i...@craftypixel.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Just so people are in no doubt that this is a serious request and not
>>> some freebie
>>> On May 21, 11:24 am, Alistair MacDonald <alistair.macdon...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> This is a bit off topic so I have changed the subject. I am fascinated
>>>> by the comment that "it will be a paid project". Do you come across
>>>> many people doing projects that are not paid? It is something the
>>>> design community are complaining about and I was wondering if it is
>>>> becoming an issue in the software world as well.
Yes, it does. Usually comes in the form of "work for equity" in my
experience, rather than "work for money". It is usually worth saying "this
is a paid project" so people know whether to bother showing any sort of
interest! If you are in the happy situation where you've never been offered
work for equity, then you're either lucky, or, frankly, nobody knows about
you.
Rob
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Alistair MacDonald <
alistair.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry if anyone is feeling that, that is not my intention. Perhaps it is
> because the Design Interest group were making such a thing of not doing
> spec work that I am wondering about it.
> I guess that is my question though, is this just a hastily written email
> or is this something that is becoming a problem in the PHP world as well.
> We are all use to adds wanting "graduates" with decades of experience to do
> a senior job at next to money, but I have not seen any people wanting devs
> for literally nothing. Does this happen often?
> Alistair
> On 21 May 2012, at 16:42, Sam Lambert <s...@ninjapanda.co.uk> wrote:
> > Do you think he thought that? Or do you think it was a quickly written
> request for a developer that is now under an unnecessary amount of scrutiny?
> > On 21 May 2012, at 16:29, Alistair MacDonald wrote:
> >> I just find it interesting you thought that someone would ignore it
> because they thought it was a freebie.
> >> Alistair
> >> On 21 May 2012, at 16:13, CraftyPixel <i...@craftypixel.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> Just so people are in no doubt that this is a serious request and not
> >>> some freebie
> >>> On May 21, 11:24 am, Alistair MacDonald <alistair.macdon...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> This is a bit off topic so I have changed the subject. I am fascinated
> >>>> by the comment that "it will be a paid project". Do you come across
> >>>> many people doing projects that are not paid? It is something the
> >>>> design community are complaining about and I was wondering if it is
> >>>> becoming an issue in the software world as well.
Yes I have been asked to join startup teams for equity, and I have
done a couple because they were cool projects. This includes Usable
before we got on the Ignite100. Subject to funding being signed off I
am about to do it again later this year. Yes, as Robin hinted at, I
was asked because of reputation and because they know they can not pay
a going rate for the work.
All that being said I can't say I have ever been approached as a code
monkey or web developer in this way, or seen it mentioned in a job
advert for that matter. Perhaps I have just been lucky or that I am
not associated with kind of work that people expect for free.
Alistair
On 22 May 2012 12:47, Robin Scott <robinjesc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, it does. Usually comes in the form of "work for equity" in my
> experience, rather than "work for money". It is usually worth saying "this
> is a paid project" so people know whether to bother showing any sort of
> interest! If you are in the happy situation where you've never been offered
> work for equity, then you're either lucky, or, frankly, nobody knows about
> you.
> Rob
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Alistair MacDonald
> <alistair.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry if anyone is feeling that, that is not my intention. Perhaps it is
>> because the Design Interest group were making such a thing of not doing spec
>> work that I am wondering about it.
>> I guess that is my question though, is this just a hastily written email
>> or is this something that is becoming a problem in the PHP world as well. We
>> are all use to adds wanting "graduates" with decades of experience to do a
>> senior job at next to money, but I have not seen any people wanting devs for
>> literally nothing. Does this happen often?
>> Alistair
>> On 21 May 2012, at 16:42, Sam Lambert <s...@ninjapanda.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Do you think he thought that? Or do you think it was a quickly written
>> > request for a developer that is now under an unnecessary amount of scrutiny?
>> > On 21 May 2012, at 16:29, Alistair MacDonald wrote:
>> >> I just find it interesting you thought that someone would ignore it
>> >> because they thought it was a freebie.
>> >> Alistair
>> >> On 21 May 2012, at 16:13, CraftyPixel <i...@craftypixel.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>> Just so people are in no doubt that this is a serious request and not
>> >>> some freebie
>> >>> On May 21, 11:24 am, Alistair MacDonald <alistair.macdon...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>> This is a bit off topic so I have changed the subject. I am
>> >>>> fascinated
>> >>>> by the comment that "it will be a paid project". Do you come across
>> >>>> many people doing projects that are not paid? It is something the
>> >>>> design community are complaining about and I was wondering if it is
>> >>>> becoming an issue in the software world as well.
