I'm Alfonso (aka @inocuo) and I'm one of the members who take care of
Barcelona Photobloggers and Europe Photobloggers community. I want to
excuse myself in advance if my english is not well accurated.
Yesterday Brandon and I crossed a few tweets discussing about it but I
think it's necessary to have a public debate. We have to manage lots
of applications of people who want to be listed in our sites but not
all of them have a "real" photoblog. We can't tell them that they are
"good" enought to be listed in photoblogs.org but not in Barcelona or
other local communities. Besides, now that photoblog.org is moving
forward, it would be a good moment to strengthen "our brand" defining
it properly.
There are blogs with photos and photography blogs. It should seem easy
to know that blogs that talk about photography are not photoblogs, but
some people and media don't make that distinction. Also, in my
opinion, there are lots of text blogs considered as photoblogs that
include one or more photos in their posts, but they aren't. See this
two examples:
There is a thin line between a text blog with photos and a photoblog,
I know. But this is the goal of this thread: clarify what is a
photoblog.
Barcelona Photobloggers (at least those who run it) defines a
photoblog in this way:
A photoblog is a website whose content are photographs presented in a
diary or blog format. In a photoblog, unlike traditional blogs where
text is the most important thing, the emphasis is on the images. It is
arranged chronologically (reversed) and every photo has associated a
date.
Let's talk about this. :)
To make it easier, I'm doing this questions:
1. What is a photoblog for you?
2. Do you think that a text blog with images in their posts is also a
photoblog?
Feel free to comment about other related topics.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Alfonso
1. photoblogs are blogs with photos 2. photography blogs are blogs about photography
(Sometimes a blog can be both.) Also, I know that you can have text blogs that contain random photos just for illustration, so I can see how that doesn't count. But, there are also text-heavy photoblogs that focus primarily on the photos and provide lots of commentary.
I'd hate to discourage commentary in photoblogs. Some of my favorite photoblogs have related essays along with big, beautiful images.
I believe the right answer is to err on the side of being "too" inclusive.
It's got plenty of words, but it's mostly about the photos, so I consider it a photoblog. I didn't even think it would be an issue, but since the question came up, I'm happy to talk about it.
Bottom line, I'd hate to create so many rules that we eventually get "photoblog police" threatening to remove people from the list if they don't post more photos. That would be completely missing the point of sharing your life, thoughts, and travels on a blog.
I want a stress-free environment where people are happy to post whatever they like to their own blogs without caring about my silly little photoblog list. :)
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Alfonso Para <alfo...@para.cat> wrote: > Hi everyone.
> I'm Alfonso (aka @inocuo) and I'm one of the members who take care of > Barcelona Photobloggers and Europe Photobloggers community. I want to > excuse myself in advance if my english is not well accurated.
> Yesterday Brandon and I crossed a few tweets discussing about it but I > think it's necessary to have a public debate. We have to manage lots > of applications of people who want to be listed in our sites but not > all of them have a "real" photoblog. We can't tell them that they are > "good" enought to be listed in photoblogs.org but not in Barcelona or > other local communities. Besides, now that photoblog.org is moving > forward, it would be a good moment to strengthen "our brand" defining > it properly.
> There are blogs with photos and photography blogs. It should seem easy > to know that blogs that talk about photography are not photoblogs, but > some people and media don't make that distinction. Also, in my > opinion, there are lots of text blogs considered as photoblogs that > include one or more photos in their posts, but they aren't. See this > two examples:
> There is a thin line between a text blog with photos and a photoblog, > I know. But this is the goal of this thread: clarify what is a > photoblog.
> Barcelona Photobloggers (at least those who run it) defines a > photoblog in this way:
> A photoblog is a website whose content are photographs presented in a > diary or blog format. In a photoblog, unlike traditional blogs where > text is the most important thing, the emphasis is on the images. It is > arranged chronologically (reversed) and every photo has associated a > date.
> Let's talk about this. :) > To make it easier, I'm doing this questions:
> 1. What is a photoblog for you? > 2. Do you think that a text blog with images in their posts is also a > photoblog?
> Feel free to comment about other related topics. > Thanks for sharing your thoughts > Alfonso
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I agree with you that it's better to err on the side of being too "inclusive".
As some one who is passionate about photography and working on putting my blog up (hopefully up soon), I would like to post images but also thoughts on the Art & Craft of Photography and the tools that enable the craft.
> photoblogs are blogs with photos > photography blogs are blogs about photography
> (Sometimes a blog can be both.) Also, I know that you can have text blogs > that contain random photos just for illustration, so I can see how that > doesn't count. But, there are also text-heavy photoblogs that focus > primarily on the photos and provide lots of commentary.
> I'd hate to discourage commentary in photoblogs. Some of my favorite > photoblogs have related essays along with big, beautiful images.
> I believe the right answer is to err on the side of being "too" inclusive.
> It's got plenty of words, but it's mostly about the photos, so I consider it > a photoblog. I didn't even think it would be an issue, but since the > question came up, I'm happy to talk about it.
> Bottom line, I'd hate to create so many rules that we eventually get > "photoblog police" threatening to remove people from the list if they don't > post more photos. That would be completely missing the point of sharing > your life, thoughts, and travels on a blog.
> I want a stress-free environment where people are happy to post whatever > they like to their own blogs without caring about my silly little photoblog > list. :)
> If any of you have opinions, feel free to share,
> -b
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Alfonso Para <alfo...@para.cat> wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>> I'm Alfonso (aka @inocuo) and I'm one of the members who take care of >> Barcelona Photobloggers and Europe Photobloggers community. I want to >> excuse myself in advance if my english is not well accurated.
>> Yesterday Brandon and I crossed a few tweets discussing about it but I >> think it's necessary to have a public debate. We have to manage lots >> of applications of people who want to be listed in our sites but not >> all of them have a "real" photoblog. We can't tell them that they are >> "good" enought to be listed in photoblogs.org but not in Barcelona or >> other local communities. Besides, now that photoblog.org is moving >> forward, it would be a good moment to strengthen "our brand" defining >> it properly.
>> There are blogs with photos and photography blogs. It should seem easy >> to know that blogs that talk about photography are not photoblogs, but >> some people and media don't make that distinction. Also, in my >> opinion, there are lots of text blogs considered as photoblogs that >> include one or more photos in their posts, but they aren't. See this >> two examples:
>> There is a thin line between a text blog with photos and a photoblog, >> I know. But this is the goal of this thread: clarify what is a >> photoblog.
>> Barcelona Photobloggers (at least those who run it) defines a >> photoblog in this way:
>> A photoblog is a website whose content are photographs presented in a >> diary or blog format. In a photoblog, unlike traditional blogs where >> text is the most important thing, the emphasis is on the images. It is >> arranged chronologically (reversed) and every photo has associated a >> date.
>> Let's talk about this. :) >> To make it easier, I'm doing this questions:
>> 1. What is a photoblog for you? >> 2. Do you think that a text blog with images in their posts is also a >> photoblog?
>> Feel free to comment about other related topics. >> Thanks for sharing your thoughts >> Alfonso
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For me a photoblog is type of blog. There are a lot of types of classifications. Photoblog, videoblog, podacast are all types of a morphologic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphology_(biology)> classification. In other words is a type of classification about the form and structure of its content.
The form/structure of a photoblog is: a blog whit a picture in every post. Posts can content text but can't contain video nor audio. Posts can content more than one pictures but must have one.
The key is "form" not content. A photoblog is not about a theme, it has a form.
Then a flickr account is a photoblog while you don't upload video. But we don't accept flickr accounts in Barcelona Photobloggers because we thing flickerist have other ways (groups) to run communities.
> photoblogs are blogs with photos > photography blogs are blogs about photography
> (Sometimes a blog can be both.) Also, I know that you can have text blogs > that contain random photos just for illustration, so I can see how that > doesn't count. But, there are also text-heavy photoblogs that focus > primarily on the photos and provide lots of commentary.
> I'd hate to discourage commentary in photoblogs. Some of my favorite > photoblogs have related essays along with big, beautiful images.
> I believe the right answer is to err on the side of being "too" inclusive.
> It's got plenty of words, but it's mostly about the photos, so I consider it > a photoblog. I didn't even think it would be an issue, but since the > question came up, I'm happy to talk about it.
> Bottom line, I'd hate to create so many rules that we eventually get > "photoblog police" threatening to remove people from the list if they don't > post more photos. That would be completely missing the point of sharing > your life, thoughts, and travels on a blog.
> I want a stress-free environment where people are happy to post whatever > they like to their own blogs without caring about my silly little photoblog > list. :)
> If any of you have opinions, feel free to share,
> -b
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Alfonso Para <alfo...@para.cat> wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>> I'm Alfonso (aka @inocuo) and I'm one of the members who take care of >> Barcelona Photobloggers and Europe Photobloggers community. I want to >> excuse myself in advance if my english is not well accurated.
>> Yesterday Brandon and I crossed a few tweets discussing about it but I >> think it's necessary to have a public debate. We have to manage lots >> of applications of people who want to be listed in our sites but not >> all of them have a "real" photoblog. We can't tell them that they are >> "good" enought to be listed in photoblogs.org but not in Barcelona or >> other local communities. Besides, now that photoblog.org is moving >> forward, it would be a good moment to strengthen "our brand" defining >> it properly.
>> There are blogs with photos and photography blogs. It should seem easy >> to know that blogs that talk about photography are not photoblogs, but >> some people and media don't make that distinction. Also, in my >> opinion, there are lots of text blogs considered as photoblogs that >> include one or more photos in their posts, but they aren't. See this >> two examples:
>> There is a thin line between a text blog with photos and a photoblog, >> I know. But this is the goal of this thread: clarify what is a >> photoblog.
>> Barcelona Photobloggers (at least those who run it) defines a >> photoblog in this way:
>> A photoblog is a website whose content are photographs presented in a >> diary or blog format. In a photoblog, unlike traditional blogs where >> text is the most important thing, the emphasis is on the images. It is >> arranged chronologically (reversed) and every photo has associated a >> date.
>> Let's talk about this. :) >> To make it easier, I'm doing this questions:
>> 1. What is a photoblog for you? >> 2. Do you think that a text blog with images in their posts is also a >> photoblog?
>> Feel free to comment about other related topics. >> Thanks for sharing your thoughts >> Alfonso
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> Posts can content text but can't contain video nor audio.
What if someone has a great photoblog. They have 200 posts, each with one photo. They are widely cheered and revered by the masses, but then they get a camera that shoots video and they want to share that, too? Are they not "allowed" to post video to *their own* blog for fear of being banished from the photoblogging world?
Not to rope him into this, but I know Miles has a few videos on his photoblog: http://mute.rigent.com/
Should the community discourage him from doing so? Or should we say, "Dang! That's a cool video. Keep on experimenting!"
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Fran Simó <f...@justpictures.es> wrote: > I'm going to be "sophisticated"
> For me a photoblog is type of blog. There are a lot of types > of classifications. Photoblog, videoblog, podacast are all types of a > morphologic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphology_%28biology%29> classification. > In other words is a type of classification about the form and structure of > its content.
> The form/structure of a photoblog is: a blog whit a picture in every post. > Posts can content text but can't contain video nor audio. Posts can content > more than one pictures but must have one.
> The key is "form" not content. A photoblog is not about a theme, it has a > form.
> Then a flickr account is a photoblog while you don't upload video. But we > don't accept flickr accounts in Barcelona Photobloggers because we thing > flickerist have other ways (groups) to run communities.
> > photoblogs are blogs with photos > > photography blogs are blogs about photography
> > (Sometimes a blog can be both.) Also, I know that you can have text > blogs > > that contain random photos just for illustration, so I can see how that > > doesn't count. But, there are also text-heavy photoblogs that focus > > primarily on the photos and provide lots of commentary.
> > I'd hate to discourage commentary in photoblogs. Some of my favorite > > photoblogs have related essays along with big, beautiful images.
> > I believe the right answer is to err on the side of being "too" > inclusive.
> > It's got plenty of words, but it's mostly about the photos, so I consider > it > > a photoblog. I didn't even think it would be an issue, but since the > > question came up, I'm happy to talk about it.
> > Bottom line, I'd hate to create so many rules that we eventually get > > "photoblog police" threatening to remove people from the list if they > don't > > post more photos. That would be completely missing the point of sharing > > your life, thoughts, and travels on a blog.
> > I want a stress-free environment where people are happy to post whatever > > they like to their own blogs without caring about my silly little > photoblog > > list. :)
> > If any of you have opinions, feel free to share,
> > -b
> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Alfonso Para <alfo...@para.cat> wrote:
> >> Hi everyone.
> >> I'm Alfonso (aka @inocuo) and I'm one of the members who take care of > >> Barcelona Photobloggers and Europe Photobloggers community. I want to > >> excuse myself in advance if my english is not well accurated.
> >> Yesterday Brandon and I crossed a few tweets discussing about it but I > >> think it's necessary to have a public debate. We have to manage lots > >> of applications of people who want to be listed in our sites but not > >> all of them have a "real" photoblog. We can't tell them that they are > >> "good" enought to be listed in photoblogs.org but not in Barcelona or > >> other local communities. Besides, now that photoblog.org is moving > >> forward, it would be a good moment to strengthen "our brand" defining > >> it properly.
> >> There are blogs with photos and photography blogs. It should seem easy > >> to know that blogs that talk about photography are not photoblogs, but > >> some people and media don't make that distinction. Also, in my > >> opinion, there are lots of text blogs considered as photoblogs that > >> include one or more photos in their posts, but they aren't. See this > >> two examples:
> >> There is a thin line between a text blog with photos and a photoblog, > >> I know. But this is the goal of this thread: clarify what is a > >> photoblog.
> >> Barcelona Photobloggers (at least those who run it) defines a > >> photoblog in this way:
> >> A photoblog is a website whose content are photographs presented in a > >> diary or blog format. In a photoblog, unlike traditional blogs where > >> text is the most important thing, the emphasis is on the images. It is > >> arranged chronologically (reversed) and every photo has associated a > >> date.
> >> Let's talk about this. :) > >> To make it easier, I'm doing this questions:
> >> 1. What is a photoblog for you? > >> 2. Do you think that a text blog with images in their posts is also a > >> photoblog?
> >> Feel free to comment about other related topics. > >> Thanks for sharing your thoughts > >> Alfonso
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well, times are changing... the photoblog that was 5 years ago has become more "techie" and mature. "iphoneography" is running hot and also videography. and all have one thing in common: pictures.
I think it's the message that counts, for me a photoblog is still that kind of blog that transports the message with pictures and some lines of description or whatever. motion picture counts too.
>> Posts can content text but can't contain video nor audio.
> What if someone has a great photoblog. They have 200 posts, each with one > photo. They are widely cheered and revered by the masses, but then they get > a camera that shoots video and they want to share that, too? Are they not > "allowed" to post video to *their own* blog for fear of being banished from > the photoblogging world?
> Not to rope him into this, but I know Miles has a few videos on his > photoblog: > http://mute.rigent.com/
> Should the community discourage him from doing so? Or should we say, > "Dang! That's a cool video. Keep on experimenting!"
> -b
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Fran Simó <f...@justpictures.es> wrote:
>> I'm going to be "sophisticated" >> For me a photoblog is type of blog. There are a lot of types >> of classifications. Photoblog, videoblog, podacast are all types of >> a morphologic classification. In other words is a type >> of classification about the form and structure of its content. >> The form/structure of a photoblog is: a blog whit a picture in every post. >> Posts can content text but can't contain video nor audio. Posts can content >> more than one pictures but must have one. >> The key is "form" not content. A photoblog is not about a theme, it has a >> form. >> Then a flickr account is a photoblog while you don't upload video. But we >> don't accept flickr accounts in Barcelona Photobloggers because we thing >> flickerist have other ways (groups) to run communities. >> -- >> Fran Simó >> http://fransimo.info/ >> +34 655 384 230
>> > photoblogs are blogs with photos >> > photography blogs are blogs about photography
>> > (Sometimes a blog can be both.) Also, I know that you can have text >> > blogs >> > that contain random photos just for illustration, so I can see how that >> > doesn't count. But, there are also text-heavy photoblogs that focus >> > primarily on the photos and provide lots of commentary.
>> > I'd hate to discourage commentary in photoblogs. Some of my favorite >> > photoblogs have related essays along with big, beautiful images.
>> > I believe the right answer is to err on the side of being "too" >> > inclusive.
>> > It's got plenty of words, but it's mostly about the photos, so I >> > consider it >> > a photoblog. I didn't even think it would be an issue, but since the >> > question came up, I'm happy to talk about it.
>> > Bottom line, I'd hate to create so many rules that we eventually get >> > "photoblog police" threatening to remove people from the list if they >> > don't >> > post more photos. That would be completely missing the point of sharing >> > your life, thoughts, and travels on a blog.
>> > I want a stress-free environment where people are happy to post whatever >> > they like to their own blogs without caring about my silly little >> > photoblog >> > list. :)
>> > If any of you have opinions, feel free to share,
>> > -b
>> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Alfonso Para <alfo...@para.cat> wrote:
>> >> Hi everyone.
>> >> I'm Alfonso (aka @inocuo) and I'm one of the members who take care of >> >> Barcelona Photobloggers and Europe Photobloggers community. I want to >> >> excuse myself in advance if my english is not well accurated.
>> >> Yesterday Brandon and I crossed a few tweets discussing about it but I >> >> think it's necessary to have a public debate. We have to manage lots >> >> of applications of people who want to be listed in our sites but not >> >> all of them have a "real" photoblog. We can't tell them that they are >> >> "good" enought to be listed in photoblogs.org but not in Barcelona or >> >> other local communities. Besides, now that photoblog.org is moving >> >> forward, it would be a good moment to strengthen "our brand" defining >> >> it properly.
>> >> There are blogs with photos and photography blogs. It should seem easy >> >> to know that blogs that talk about photography are not photoblogs, but >> >> some people and media don't make that distinction. Also, in my >> >> opinion, there are lots of text blogs considered as photoblogs that >> >> include one or more photos in their posts, but they aren't. See this >> >> two examples:
>> >> There is a thin line between a text blog with photos and a photoblog, >> >> I know. But this is the goal of this thread: clarify what is a >> >> photoblog.
>> >> Barcelona Photobloggers (at least those who run it) defines a >> >> photoblog in this way:
>> >> A photoblog is a website whose content are photographs presented in a >> >> diary or blog format. In a photoblog, unlike traditional blogs where >> >> text is the most important thing, the emphasis is on the images. It is >> >> arranged chronologically (reversed) and every photo has associated a >> >> date.
>> >> Let's talk about this. :) >> >> To make it easier, I'm doing this questions:
>> >> 1. What is a photoblog for you? >> >> 2. Do you think that a text blog with images in their posts is also a >> >> photoblog?
>> >> Feel free to comment about other related topics. >> >> Thanks for sharing your thoughts >> >> Alfonso
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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Fran Simó <f...@justpictures.es> wrote: > Posts can content text but can't contain video nor audio.
I think that's too arbitrary and restrictive. I used to post movies instead of still photos from time to time, I figured I take them with the same camera so I can post them on the same blog. Sam from Daily Dose posts occasional videos too, does that make it not a photoblog? Some blogs I used to follow had embedded music for the posts - as long as it doesn't autoplay it doesn't bother me.
So, I think we can resume some thoughts saying that a photoblog is a blog that *MAINLY* shows photos. That's fine. But if it is not necessary to post a photo in every post and you can also add videos, music, whatever or just text in posts, why to call it photoblog?
When I read photoblog I think in a website that has photos. It's nice if people attach related content that tell you more about the photo, but it's in a secondary term (text, music, videos...). You don't need to take a look at them.
I don't want to seem as someone who has a mallet and judges if that is a photoblog or not because it has videos or just text posts. Probably it is just a semantic issue, but I like to use words correctly. Because we expect something when we hear any word.
Elizabeth Weinberg, the photographer you linked on twitter, describes her site as a blog. But you did it as a photoblog. That thing made me think about this: What is a photoblog? Then I checked her site and I saw she had a category called photolog and also posts without photos in other categories... As you started this movement, I wanted to know your opinion -because I had another point of view of it- and also everyone thoughts. I know I don't have the holy truth!
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Adam T <data...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Fran Simó <f...@justpictures.es> wrote: > > Posts can content text but can't contain video nor audio.
> I think that's too arbitrary and restrictive. I used to post movies > instead of still photos from time to time, I figured I take them with > the same camera so I can post them on the same blog. Sam from Daily > Dose posts occasional videos too, does that make it not a photoblog? > Some blogs I used to follow had embedded music for the posts - as long > as it doesn't autoplay it doesn't bother me.
> -- > adam in toronto.on.ca
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> But if it is not necessary to post a photo in every > post and you can also add videos, music, whatever > or just text in posts, why to call it photoblog?
"No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are."
I think I agree with your idea of what an "ideal" photoblog is, but I just know that, in reality, many worthwhile blogs won't live up to that standard. If a blog is close enough, then that's fine with me.
photoblog = photos + web + log
If I can go to the web and see neato photos ordered by some kind of date, then I'm happy. I don't mind some non-photo content in there every now and then (in fact, it's quite welcome in the right context).
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Alfonso Para <alfo...@para.cat> wrote: > Nice! Very interesting. Thank you.
> So, I think we can resume some thoughts saying that a photoblog is a blog > that *MAINLY* shows photos. That's fine. But if it is not necessary to > post a photo in every post and you can also add videos, music, whatever or > just text in posts, why to call it photoblog?
> When I read photoblog I think in a website that has photos. It's nice if > people attach related content that tell you more about the photo, but it's > in a secondary term (text, music, videos...). You don't need to take a look > at them.
> I don't want to seem as someone who has a mallet and judges if that is a > photoblog or not because it has videos or just text posts. Probably it is > just a semantic issue, but I like to use words correctly. Because we expect > something when we hear any word.
> Elizabeth Weinberg, the photographer you linked on twitter, describes her > site as a blog. But you did it as a photoblog. That thing made me think > about this: What is a photoblog? Then I checked her site and I saw she had a > category called photolog and also posts without photos in other > categories... As you started this movement, I wanted to know your opinion > -because I had another point of view of it- and also everyone thoughts. I > know I don't have the holy truth!
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Adam T <data...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Fran Simó <f...@justpictures.es> wrote: >> > Posts can content text but can't contain video nor audio.
>> I think that's too arbitrary and restrictive. I used to post movies >> instead of still photos from time to time, I figured I take them with >> the same camera so I can post them on the same blog. Sam from Daily >> Dose posts occasional videos too, does that make it not a photoblog? >> Some blogs I used to follow had embedded music for the posts - as long >> as it doesn't autoplay it doesn't bother me.
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Imagine Cartier Bresson writing a photoblog, no photos attached, just his thoughts about the decisive moment, or Jacob Riis writing about his feelings when shooting at New York’s homeless, no photos attached, or the filmmaker Wim Wenders explaining why he shoot photos and illustrating his photoblog with video excepts of Paris Texas… Just imagine now the new generations using photoblogs with plenty of new audio visual technologies… Now just imagine we do not regulate what people should do to be consider a photoblogger -hmmm, that will require open minded Barcelona’s photobloggers :-).
Wouldn’t be a wonderful world to have photoblogs without a Big Brother?
Let's preserve Photoblogs’t freedom--freedom from regulation and archaic definitions, that is.
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De: photoblogs@googlegroups.com [mailto:photoblogs@googlegroups.com] En nombre de Alfonso Para Enviado el: miércoles, 22 de septiembre de 2010 19:15 Para: photoblogs@googlegroups.com Asunto: Re: [photoblogs-discuss] What is a photoblog?
Nice! Very interesting. Thank you.
So, I think we can resume some thoughts saying that a photoblog is a blog that MAINLY shows photos. That's fine. But if it is not necessary to post a photo in every post and you can also add videos, music, whatever or just text in posts, why to call it photoblog?
When I read photoblog I think in a website that has photos. It's nice if people attach related content that tell you more about the photo, but it's in a secondary term (text, music, videos...). You don't need to take a look at them.
I don't want to seem as someone who has a mallet and judges if that is a photoblog or not because it has videos or just text posts. Probably it is just a semantic issue, but I like to use words correctly. Because we expect something when we hear any word.
Elizabeth Weinberg, the photographer you linked on twitter, describes her site as a blog. But you did it as a photoblog. That thing made me think about this: What is a photoblog? Then I checked her site and I saw she had a category called photolog and also posts without photos in other categories... As you started this movement, I wanted to know your opinion -because I had another point of view of it- and also everyone thoughts. I know I don't have the holy truth!
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Adam T <data...@gmail.com> wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Fran Simó <f...@justpictures.es> wrote: > Posts can content text but can't contain video nor audio.
I think that's too arbitrary and restrictive. I used to post movies instead of still photos from time to time, I figured I take them with the same camera so I can post them on the same blog. Sam from Daily Dose posts occasional videos too, does that make it not a photoblog? Some blogs I used to follow had embedded music for the posts - as long as it doesn't autoplay it doesn't bother me.
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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Alfonso Para <alfo...@para.cat> wrote:
> I don't want to seem as someone who has a mallet and judges if that is a > photoblog or not because it has videos or just text posts. Probably it is > just a semantic issue, but I like to use words correctly. Because we expect > something when we hear any word.
It is just a semantic issue, and the problem with putting things in boxes is that the real world doesn't like to follow the same rules. It's also a porblem with the definition of "species" in biology - not all breeding groups are as self-contained and obvious as taxonomists would like.
Since almost all pocket digicams and many new DSLRs shoot video (and video is just a series of still photographs), I think it's an artificial and increasingly unrealistic distinction that ultimately only limits creativity. If semantics are that important, call it a camerablog or something (I'd have suggested lensblog but that excludes pinhole photography). When I'm deciding if I want to follow a blog I care about whether it's interesting, not if they only post still pictures.
This reminds me of when VFXY rejected my blog because I'd posted a time lapse video the week before they reviewed it (but I think part of it was their automated feed parser was too stupid to extract my jpeg thumbnails).
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Alfonso Para <alfo...@para.cat> wrote:
>> I don't want to seem as someone who has a mallet and judges if that is a >> photoblog or not because it has videos or just text posts. Probably it is >> just a semantic issue, but I like to use words correctly. Because we >> expect >> something when we hear any word.
> It is just a semantic issue, and the problem with putting things in > boxes is that the real world doesn't like to follow the same rules. > It's also a porblem with the definition of "species" in biology - not > all breeding groups are as self-contained and obvious as taxonomists > would like.
> Since almost all pocket digicams and many new DSLRs shoot video (and > video is just a series of still photographs), I think it's an > artificial and increasingly unrealistic distinction that ultimately > only limits creativity. If semantics are that important, call it a > camerablog or something (I'd have suggested lensblog but that excludes > pinhole photography). When I'm deciding if I want to follow a blog I > care about whether it's interesting, not if they only post still > pictures.
> This reminds me of when VFXY rejected my blog because I'd posted a > time lapse video the week before they reviewed it (but I think part of > it was their automated feed parser was too stupid to extract my jpeg > thumbnails).
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online journal where an individual, group, or corporation presents a
record of activities, thoughts, or beliefs. Some blogs operate mainly
as news filters, collecting various online sources and adding short
comments and Internet links. Other blogs concentrate on presenting
original material. In addition, many blogs provide a forum to allow
visitors to leave comments and interact with the publisher. "To blog"
is the act of composing material for a blog. Materials are largely
written, but pictures, audio, and videos are important elements of
many blogs. The "blogosphere" is the online universe of blogs.
It seems, that no matter what you call it, in it's essence the
blog is an inclusive term. However the waters
seem rather muddy here in this discussion regarding the central
element, which is the photograph. I have to admit that the varied
points of view all have their particular merit,
however my own personal view lies more with Fran Simo's, in that
that the idea of a 'photoblog' by inference if not by definition is a
format that should emphasize the photographic image first and
foremost . 'Photo+blog ' emphasizes in the
first case the term 'photo' . The 'photograph' then is really the
central theme and is the primary tool to convey narrative.This does
not exclude alternate
entries in to the narrative in the form of video or music. However
the core emphasis is the power of the picture to tell the story.
One test I can apply to the notion that the photograph
should be the central component in a 'photoblog' is this.. Did
Diane Arbus,Ansel Adams,William Eggleston, Robert Frank etc etc
have to explain the work in some particular context for it to have
an import on our artistic and emotional psyches? The story is in the
image first. In this regard I think the image should speak for
itself and hold center stage...other amendments to a ' photoblog '
should be secondary. I personally like to add some written
amendments to my photos but that is the extent of it.
So there is another log to throw on the fire...
cheers to all.. eddie
On Sep 22, 12:15 pm, Arne Gulstene <agulst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One my favourite photoblogs is "unphotographable" where each essay
> starts with "this photograph that I did not make" creates a photograph
> in my head.
> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Alfonso Para <alfo...@para.cat> wrote:
> >> I don't want to seem as someone who has a mallet and judges if that is a
> >> photoblog or not because it has videos or just text posts. Probably it is
> >> just a semantic issue, but I like to use words correctly. Because we
> >> expect
> >> something when we hear any word.
> > It is just a semantic issue, and the problem with putting things in
> > boxes is that the real world doesn't like to follow the same rules.
> > It's also a porblem with the definition of "species" in biology - not
> > all breeding groups are as self-contained and obvious as taxonomists
> > would like.
> > Since almost all pocket digicams and many new DSLRs shoot video (and
> > video is just a series of still photographs), I think it's an
> > artificial and increasingly unrealistic distinction that ultimately
> > only limits creativity. If semantics are that important, call it a
> > camerablog or something (I'd have suggested lensblog but that excludes
> > pinhole photography). When I'm deciding if I want to follow a blog I
> > care about whether it's interesting, not if they only post still
> > pictures.
> > This reminds me of when VFXY rejected my blog because I'd posted a
> > time lapse video the week before they reviewed it (but I think part of
> > it was their automated feed parser was too stupid to extract my jpeg
> > thumbnails).
> > --
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One my favourite photoblogs is "unphotographable" where each essay
starts with "this photograph that I did not make" creates a photograph
in my head.
On 9/22/10, Adam T <datarat@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't want to seem as someone who has a mallet and judges if that is a
photoblog or not because it has videos or just text posts. Probably it is
just a semantic issue, but I like to use words correctly. Because we
expect
something when we hear any word.
It is just a semantic issue, and the problem with putting things in
boxes is that the real world doesn't like to follow the same rules.
It's also a porblem with the definition of "species" in biology - not
all breeding groups are as self-contained and obvious as taxonomists
would like.
Since almost all pocket digicams and many new DSLRs shoot video (and
video is just a series of still photographs), I think it's an
artificial and increasingly unrealistic distinction that ultimately
only limits creativity. If semantics are that important, call it a
camerablog or something (I'd have suggested lensblog but that excludes
pinhole photography). When I'm deciding if I want to follow a blog I
care about whether it's interesting, not if they only post still
pictures.
This reminds me of when VFXY rejected my blog because I'd posted a
time lapse video the week before they reviewed it (but I think part of
it was their automated feed parser was too stupid to extract my jpeg
thumbnails).
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I've only skimmed this thread, but one point that doesn't seem to have been made so far is that the content of the photoblog should be original work (i.e. the work of the blogger). In my opinion, things like tumblr blogs that just repost other's work shouldn't really be considered photoblogs. That also extends to sites like boston.com's Big Picture and the various clones.
I think I recall one year that a LOLCats site either won or was in the running for a photoblog of the year award. That was the year that I lost all interest in blog awards.
Flak Photo has regular photos in a blog format but they are curated by Andy, rather than taken by him. Instead of saying that this isn't a photoblog, I would just say that it's a certain kind of photoblog.
It sounds like many people in this conversation are trying to define a specific kind of photoblog as "the one true" photoblog. Whereas, others are saying that another type of photoblog isn't a "legitimate" photoblog.
Back to the broadest definition: A photoblog is a blog with photos, where the focus is on the photos.
Within that there are many kinds of photoblogs:
- A photoblog that *only* has photos and no video or audio content. - A photoblog authored by *only* one person who takes the photos herself. - A photoblog that is curated by editors who show photos that they've found. - A photoblog that is run by a news agency showing the latest in photojournalism. - A photoblog that is purely about LOLCats. - A photoblog run by a group of people who vote on which photos show up. (Something like WeeklyShot.org.) - A photoblog where you take a photo of your face every day. - A photoblog where you take a photo of every single meal you have. - ad nauseum
Here's how I see it... There are millions of photoblogs out there, and it's obvious that they come in many different flavors. If you only like a certain flavor, that's fine, but I think it's overreaching to try to rigidly define a "proper photoblog" as something very specific, when there are so many variations.
To get back to the original point that the Barcelona Photobloggers made. They have a specific kind of photoblog in mind, and I think that's totally fine. If they only want to allow that kind of photoblog, I'll support them. I just think it's important to understand that there are also many different types of blog that fall under the broad definition of a photoblog.
Also, keep in mind (and this is probably the most important part) no one gets to make the definition of a word. The dictionary doesn't tell you the "right" meaning of a word. It actually tells you the common usage of a word. So, in the end, it's really out of our hands.
-b
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Heath Carney <heath.car...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I've only skimmed this thread, but one point that doesn't seem to have been > made so far is that the content of the photoblog should be original work > (i.e. the work of the blogger). In my opinion, things like tumblr blogs that > just repost other's work shouldn't really be considered photoblogs. That > also extends to sites like boston.com's Big Picture and the various > clones.
> I think I recall one year that a LOLCats site either won or was in the > running for a photoblog of the year award. That was the year that I lost all > interest in blog awards.
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say that text is also a
form of visual communication. We understand it through shape and form,
just as we do photos. Font, style, composition, etc. all matter in the
ways that view a message.
That being said, I do have a separate place for my "blog" and my
photos. Well, actually, I separate a lot more than that. I have a blog
for mobile photos (those taken with my phone), my regular photos
(taken with my DSLR), a blog for infographics, and then there is
flickr where much of it comes together. I delineate these for my own
sense of organization and record-keeping -- not because I don't
believe they belong together.
We can make arbitrary assignments of definition if we choose to; many
groups do. All definitions are arbitrary and cultivated by the society
that creates them. We can also use those definitions already
established and go along with the status quo. What will happen, no
matter what, is that someone, somewhere, will feel left out. It's hard
to be all inclusive, no matter what we do. I'm more of the mindset
that each of us defines it in a way that works for us. We don't have
to subscribe to a blog that doesn't meet our specific sensibilities,
but it's sure nice to know there is a place to go where I can see new
and different forms that are being presented when I want to.
I think Flak photo is am perfect example of a photoblog and one I
subscribe too ( literally and figuratively). For me the source point
isn't at issue but rather
the format.. i.e. that the photo tells the story is the preminent
feature.I think dawn makes a good point. This conversation will
ultimately end up circular by virtue of
the fact that no specific community has evolved that has the
authority to define the term 'photoblog' amd that in the end the
democratic nature of blogging will allow for all flavors of photoblog
unless a specific community forms and devises 'standards' within that
community and limits participitation in its community unless it
conforms to the community standards.
> I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say that text is also a
> form of visual communication. We understand it through shape and form,
> just as we do photos. Font, style, composition, etc. all matter in the
> ways that view a message.
> That being said, I do have a separate place for my "blog" and my
> photos. Well, actually, I separate a lot more than that. I have a blog
> for mobile photos (those taken with my phone), my regular photos
> (taken with my DSLR), a blog for infographics, and then there is
> flickr where much of it comes together. I delineate these for my own
> sense of organization and record-keeping -- not because I don't
> believe they belong together.
> We can make arbitrary assignments of definition if we choose to; many
> groups do. All definitions are arbitrary and cultivated by the society
> that creates them. We can also use those definitions already
> established and go along with the status quo. What will happen, no
> matter what, is that someone, somewhere, will feel left out. It's hard
> to be all inclusive, no matter what we do. I'm more of the mindset
> that each of us defines it in a way that works for us. We don't have
> to subscribe to a blog that doesn't meet our specific sensibilities,
> but it's sure nice to know there is a place to go where I can see new
> and different forms that are being presented when I want to.
*@WPGA Press Relations: I belive you have not understood anything. It might be because my poor english. Sorry about that.*
When I'm deciding if I want to follow a blog I
> care about whether it's interesting, not if they only post still > pictures.
@Adam: yes, of course. You are right. I (we?) am talking about blogs with photos. The objective of our community (Barcelona Photobloggers) is to promote and link people who loves photography and also has a kind of blog with photos that we call it photoblog. We want to meet people in the real world and learn from the others. We have never said that flickr users or people without presence on the net couldn't come to our meetings, for example. It's just that photobloggers don't have any tool to meet other photobloggers. They usually have they own domain/server or use free tools as blogger. But there aren't any place where they can meet online and say: hey! there are a lot of people around me that is interested in photography. Flickr users, for example, can use flickr's tools to meet other users. But if you want to find a guy who has a photoblog in Beijing, you have only 2 choices: google it or look in sites like photoblogs.org.
This reminds me of when VFXY rejected my blog because I'd posted a
> time lapse video the week before they reviewed it
Talking about this is exactly to prevent that.
If semantics are that important, call it a
> camerablog or something (I'd have suggested lensblog but that excludes > pinhole photography). When I'm deciding if I want to follow a blog I > care about whether it's interesting, not if they only post still > pictures.
I'm talking about weblogs that shows photos. Why I have to call it something different than photoblog?
If photologs.org list every blog opened because its author feels he is a photoblogger, it would have sense? I guess you all have a photoblog and that's why you are suscribed to this group. Are you looking for excelent, but without photo content, blogs in the photoblogs.org list?
Maybe Brandon is right an it is an utopian discussion.... ** * * * * On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:10 PM, WPGA Press Relations <
pr...@thegalaawards.com> wrote: > Imagine Cartier Bresson writing a photoblog, *no photos attached*, just > his thoughts about the decisive moment, or Jacob Riis writing about his > feelings when shooting at New York’s homeless, *no photos attached*, or > the filmmaker Wim Wenders explaining why he shoot photos and illustrating > his photoblog *with video* excepts of Paris Texas… Just imagine now the > new generations using photoblogs with plenty of *new audio visual > technologies*… Now just imagine we do not regulate what people should do > to be consider a photoblogger -hmmm, that will require open minded > Barcelona’s photobloggers J.
> Wouldn’t be a wonderful world to have photoblogs without a Big Brother?
> Let's preserve Photoblogs’t freedom--freedom from regulation and archaic > definitions, that is.
> ------------------------------
> *De:* photoblogs@googlegroups.com [mailto:photoblogs@googlegroups.com] *En > nombre de *Alfonso Para > *Enviado el:* miércoles, 22 de septiembre de 2010 19:15 > *Para:* photoblogs@googlegroups.com > *Asunto:* Re: [photoblogs-discuss] What is a photoblog?
> Nice! Very interesting. Thank you.
> So, I think we can resume some thoughts saying that a photoblog is a blog > that *MAINLY* shows photos. That's fine. But if it is not necessary to > post a photo in every post and you can also add videos, music, whatever or > just text in posts, why to call it photoblog?
> When I read photoblog I think in a website that has photos. It's nice if > people attach related content that tell you more about the photo, but it's > in a secondary term (text, music, videos...). You don't need to take a look > at them.
> I don't want to seem as someone who has a mallet and judges if that is a > photoblog or not because it has videos or just text posts. Probably it is > just a semantic issue, but I like to use words correctly. Because we expect > something when we hear any word.
> Elizabeth Weinberg, the photographer you linked on twitter, describes her > site as a blog. But you did it as a photoblog. That thing made me think > about this: What is a photoblog? Then I checked her site and I saw she had a > category called photolog and also posts without photos in other > categories... As you started this movement, I wanted to know your opinion > -because I had another point of view of it- and also everyone thoughts. I > know I don't have the holy truth!
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Adam T <data...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Fran Simó <f...@justpictures.es> wrote:
> > Posts can content text but can't contain video nor audio.
> I think that's too arbitrary and restrictive. I used to post movies > instead of still photos from time to time, I figured I take them with > the same camera so I can post them on the same blog. Sam from Daily > Dose posts occasional videos too, does that make it not a photoblog? > Some blogs I used to follow had embedded music for the posts - as long > as it doesn't autoplay it doesn't bother me.
> -- > adam in toronto.on.ca
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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Alfonso Para <alfo...@para.cat> wrote:
> I'm talking about weblogs that shows photos. Why I have to call it something > different than photoblog? Earlier, you wrote:
"But if it is not necessary to post a photo in every post and you can also add videos, music, whatever or just text in posts, why to call it photoblog? When I read photoblog I think in a website that has photos." and "I don't want to seem as someone who has a mallet and judges if that is a photoblog or not because it has videos or just text posts. Probably it is just a semantic issue, but I like to use words correctly."
So instead of limiting content to fit a label, I suggested a more inclusive term.
Though personally I see videography as a subdiscipline of photography (since video comprises a series of still photographs), and I think categories should describe, not define, so I don't have an issue with mixed content.
> If photologs.org list every blog opened because its author feels he is a > photoblogger, it would have sense? I guess you all have a photoblog and > that's why you are suscribed to this group. Are you looking for excelent, > but without photo content, blogs in the photoblogs.org list? > Maybe Brandon is right an it is an utopian discussion....
I think there are two different issues here: whether a photoblog has to have only still photographs in every single post (I say no, as long as it's predominantly about the photos) and whether blogs that only incidentally involve photography should be listed in photoblog sites (obviously not).
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I have what I think is a photoblog at http://seasonalpics.com but I don't seem to be able to drive any traffic to my website. I'm new to blogging and I'm not sure how it works exactly.Don't you need articles as well as photos? If I am getting visitors, I don't seem to be getting many comments. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to improve this blog and get some traffic? Thanks. I haven't gotten any returns on a significant investment. It's very disappointing.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jinky" <b...@jinkyart.com.au> To: photoblogs@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:21:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [photoblogs-discuss] What is a photoblog?
I think this is being way over thought.
A photo blog has photos on it and the majority of the site is filled with photos...most of the time......... plain and simple.....
Barb
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Heath Carney < heath.car...@gmail.com > wrote:
On 23/09/2010, at 9:15 PM, Brandon Stone wrote:
> the content of the photoblog should be original > work (i.e. the work of the blogger)
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Not sure if Bigpicture or NYTimes would agree their photo collection are photoblogs in the vein of:
- A photoblog that is run by a news agency showing the latest in photojournalism.
On my iPad I subscribe to a number of "apps" that share photos, I for one don't consider these photoblogs. Both the examples above, Boston Globe and NY Times have these apps.
My photoblog show just photos. I also have a commercial photo site (which includes photos), a recipe site (which includes photos) and a tech site (ok rarely includes photos). The first two for me a not photoblogs.
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:31 AM, <rob-mitch...@lycos.com> wrote: > I have what I think is a photoblog at http://seasonalpics.com but I don't > seem to be able to drive any traffic to my website. I'm new to blogging and > I'm not sure how it works exactly.Don't you need articles as well as photos? > If I am getting visitors, I don't seem to be getting many comments. Does > anyone have any suggestions on how to improve this blog and get some > traffic? Thanks. I haven't gotten any returns on a significant investment. > It's very disappointing.
> Rob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jinky" <b...@jinkyart.com.au> > To: photoblogs@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:21:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [photoblogs-discuss] What is a photoblog?
> I think this is being way over thought.
> A photo blog has photos on it and the majority of the site is filled with > photos...most of the time......... plain and simple.....
> Barb
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Heath Carney < heath.car...@gmail.com > > wrote:
> On 23/09/2010, at 9:15 PM, Brandon Stone wrote:
> > the content of the photoblog should be original > > work (i.e. the work of the blogger)
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