Hi Everyone - Thanks to Dave for the invitation to submit my photo. I truly appriciate this opportunity.
I've gone digital almost exactly one year ago. Prior to this conversion a ran around with a Pentax Super Program and a 70-210 (f4) nearly permanantly attached to my camera. Yes - I was (am) a confirmed long shooter - and I just love to play with shallow DOF. I nearly always shot BW film and when I was shooting bw film it was almost like I could see in Black and White.
My challenge over the past year is to learn to shoot wide - keep good perspective and not have everyting look tiny and still keep my bw vision...
Although my D80 is helping - I can shoot in BW mode (whahoo) - so what we have here is an attempt to shoot wide - not have everything all tiny - mimich the look of real bw film (tri-x was my fav) - I also like dark images (hey maybe that is a style emerging)
With these thoughts in mind I respectfully submit the following image.
Arne G wrote: > Hi Everyone - Thanks to Dave for the invitation to submit my photo. I > truly > appriciate this opportunity.
> I've gone digital almost exactly one year ago. Prior to this > conversion a > ran around with a Pentax Super Program and a 70-210 (f4) nearly > permanantly > attached to my camera. Yes - I was (am) a confirmed long shooter - > and I > just love to play with shallow DOF. I nearly always shot BW film and > when I > was shooting bw film it was almost like I could see in Black and > White.
> My challenge over the past year is to learn to shoot wide - keep good > perspective and not have everyting look tiny and still keep my bw > vision...
> Although my D80 is helping - I can shoot in BW mode (whahoo) - so > what we > have here is an attempt to shoot wide - not have everything all tiny > - > mimich the look of real bw film (tri-x was my fav) - I also like > dark > images (hey maybe that is a style emerging)
> With these thoughts in mind I respectfully submit the following > image.
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> Arne G wrote: > > Hi Everyone - Thanks to Dave for the invitation to submit my photo. I > > truly > > appriciate this opportunity.
> > I've gone digital almost exactly one year ago. Prior to this > > conversion a > > ran around with a Pentax Super Program and a 70-210 (f4) nearly > > permanantly > > attached to my camera. Yes - I was (am) a confirmed long shooter - > > and I > > just love to play with shallow DOF. I nearly always shot BW film and > > when I > > was shooting bw film it was almost like I could see in Black and > > White.
> > My challenge over the past year is to learn to shoot wide - keep good > > perspective and not have everyting look tiny and still keep my bw > > vision...
> > Although my D80 is helping - I can shoot in BW mode (whahoo) - so > > what we > > have here is an attempt to shoot wide - not have everything all tiny > > - > > mimich the look of real bw film (tri-x was my fav) - I also like > > dark > > images (hey maybe that is a style emerging)
> > With these thoughts in mind I respectfully submit the following > > image.
I like a lot of your b&w work Arne. I have a hard time in general trying to differentiate film shots from digital most of the time. Processing can really blur the distinction and more times than not, when I jump to a conclusion about which it was, I'm wrong!
The tones in this are beautiful. That sign practically leaps out at you. This is good and bad, though in my opinion. That is where my eyes goes immediately, wanting to practically ignore the rest of the image. If that was the intention well done. But I don't find signs to be compelling or to make a meaningful image. I want to focus on the marina and see more of it. Perhaps that is just me - because I am a landlubber with a fascination for all things coastal.
With wanting to see more of the marina, if you'd changed your point of focus to the boats, the sign would still dominate the field of view and be disturbing because of the soft focus. I'm not sure if changing the depth on the image would make a better image or not. I think not. The sign is still front and large. If you composed the shot differently to reduce the impact of the sign you'd be introducing other foreground elements to detract from the overall scene, and have everything looking tiny, which you've said you are trying to avoid. So I think for the scene you have composed the image is perfect; and your goal in wanting to recreate the smooth tones of Tri-X is well done.
Hi Arne Wow! this shot makes me feel what I always feel when I see a marina and a sign saying 'private, keep out' or words to that effect. As a result I think this shot works very well for me. The leading line down the walkway makes me want to go forward and find out what's going on, while the large sign makes me stop in my tracks. It works from that respect.
The overall effect is quite busy, which I think may be a feature of marina images - they are a busy place. But it almost feels too busy with the contrast being as high as it is, and with the activity on the left of the walkway which is almost extraneous to the 'message' of the image.
The brightness on the left does balance the impact of the sign, but perhaps a little too much for my taste.
Your processing to B&W is impeccable, I love the velvety blacks and the crisp whites, with almost a vignette effect at the edges. I had heard that shooting in B&W in camera isn't as 'good' as post processing an image that way, but you've proven this wrong. My D50 can't, so I resort to digital darkroom manipulation!!
Overall I think the image and presentation of the image is great, you've achieved your goal of bringing the sign out and not having tiny 'other' images, and the effect is to make at least me want to move forward into the image. Great stuff and thank you for sharing your part of the world!
Hi Arne, Thanks for sharing a lovely image. Another world for me!:-) At the first view the image looks very busy. But that's how these places are I suppose! The sign has made a prominent impact in the image.
I loved the tone separation in this image. Excellent exposure and PP! Keep sharing such nice images.
> Hi Arne > Wow! this shot makes me feel what I always feel when I see a marina > and a sign saying 'private, keep out' or words to that effect. As a > result I think this shot works very well for me. The leading line down > the walkway makes me want to go forward and find out what's going on, > while the large sign makes me stop in my tracks. > It works from that respect.
> The overall effect is quite busy, which I think may be a feature of > marina images - they are a busy place. But it almost feels too busy > with the contrast being as high as it is, and with the activity on the > left of the walkway which is almost extraneous to the 'message' of the > image.
> The brightness on the left does balance the impact of the sign, but > perhaps a little too much for my taste.
> Your processing to B&W is impeccable, I love the velvety blacks and > the crisp whites, with almost a vignette effect at the edges. I had > heard that shooting in B&W in camera isn't as 'good' as post > processing an image that way, but you've proven this wrong. My D50 > can't, so I resort to digital darkroom manipulation!!
> Overall I think the image and presentation of the image is great, > you've achieved your goal of bringing the sign out and not having tiny > 'other' images, and the effect is to make at least me want to move > forward into the image. Great stuff and thank you for sharing your > part of the world!
A frustrating photo in a good way. I say this because the sign forces me to explore the photo. I want to look around and behind. I follow the lead in lines down the pier and really want to see more of it. There are many lead-ins. the railing, the tree line (great), the dock itself. That is what I like about this. I stay and keep looking. Love the slight blur of the boats in the far back.
Well done!
Kevin
On Mar 1, 12:21 am, "Abhijit Dharmadhikari" <abhijitb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Arne, > Thanks for sharing a lovely image. Another world for me!:-) > At the first view the image looks very busy. But that's how these places are > I suppose! > The sign has made a prominent impact in the image.
> I loved the tone separation in this image. Excellent exposure and PP! > Keep sharing such nice images.
> On 3/1/07, Adiemus <eiretea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Arne > > Wow! this shot makes me feel what I always feel when I see a marina > > and a sign saying 'private, keep out' or words to that effect. As a > > result I think this shot works very well for me. The leading line down > > the walkway makes me want to go forward and find out what's going on, > > while the large sign makes me stop in my tracks. > > It works from that respect.
> > The overall effect is quite busy, which I think may be a feature of > > marina images - they are a busy place. But it almost feels too busy > > with the contrast being as high as it is, and with the activity on the > > left of the walkway which is almost extraneous to the 'message' of the > > image.
> > The brightness on the left does balance the impact of the sign, but > > perhaps a little too much for my taste.
> > Your processing to B&W is impeccable, I love the velvety blacks and > > the crisp whites, with almost a vignette effect at the edges. I had > > heard that shooting in B&W in camera isn't as 'good' as post > > processing an image that way, but you've proven this wrong. My D50 > > can't, so I resort to digital darkroom manipulation!!
> > Overall I think the image and presentation of the image is great, > > you've achieved your goal of bringing the sign out and not having tiny > > 'other' images, and the effect is to make at least me want to move > > forward into the image. Great stuff and thank you for sharing your > > part of the world!
I like the image, but I would have went for a more central placement of the walkway in the frame, that way the lead-in lines would go down the gang plank towards the water. With the strong lines the eyes would be naturally drawn towards the point of convergence, the sign would then act as a secondary element and provide additional interest in the photo.
My own photography usually incorporates very simple composition and colour, I think that comes from being a graphic designer, I hope to make the viewer feel calm. It has it merits but it's good to see a photo with elements that vie for the for the viewers attention. It's a pity that the harbour is so cluttered it would have been nice if the horizon was made up of clear water as far as you could see, but that is beyond your control.
I think you have done a wonderful job of the processing of the Black & White image, there is good tonal range in the photo and I like the shallow DOF.
> A frustrating photo in a good way. I say this because the sign forces > me to > explore the photo. I want to look around and behind. I follow the lead > in > lines down the pier and really want to see more of it. There are many > lead-ins. the railing, the tree line (great), the dock itself. That is > what > I like about this. I stay and keep looking. Love the slight blur of > the > boats in the far back.
> Well done!
> Kevin
> On Mar 1, 12:21 am, "Abhijit Dharmadhikari" <abhijitb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Arne, > > Thanks for sharing a lovely image. Another world for me!:-) > > At the first view the image looks very busy. But that's how these places > are > > I suppose! > > The sign has made a prominent impact in the image.
> > I loved the tone separation in this image. Excellent exposure and PP! > > Keep sharing such nice images.
> > On 3/1/07, Adiemus < eiretea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Arne > > > Wow! this shot makes me feel what I always feel when I see a marina > > > and a sign saying 'private, keep out' or words to that effect. As a > > > result I think this shot works very well for me. The leading line down > > > the walkway makes me want to go forward and find out what's going on, > > > while the large sign makes me stop in my tracks. > > > It works from that respect.
> > > The overall effect is quite busy, which I think may be a feature of > > > marina images - they are a busy place. But it almost feels too busy > > > with the contrast being as high as it is, and with the activity on the
> > > left of the walkway which is almost extraneous to the 'message' of the > > > image.
> > > The brightness on the left does balance the impact of the sign, but > > > perhaps a little too much for my taste.
> > > Your processing to B&W is impeccable, I love the velvety blacks and > > > the crisp whites, with almost a vignette effect at the edges. I had > > > heard that shooting in B&W in camera isn't as 'good' as post > > > processing an image that way, but you've proven this wrong. My D50 > > > can't, so I resort to digital darkroom manipulation!!
> > > Overall I think the image and presentation of the image is great, > > > you've achieved your goal of bringing the sign out and not having tiny > > > 'other' images, and the effect is to make at least me want to move > > > forward into the image. Great stuff and thank you for sharing your > > > part of the world!
Well I have to say I'm absolutely stumped! I literally cannot make up my mind with this one, I do and I don't like it. It's a really interesting view of a mooring and the B&W suits it well with some nice tones and the blank sky doesn't bother me as there is so much in the scene to keep you focused within the frame. I like your choice of DoF with the distant subjects being soft. But that sign, the sign, THE SIGN, it's really in your face and no matter how many times I view the picture I keep reading that damn sign even though I know what it says. Having said that it is an integral part of the image because it says 'PRIVATE' and blocks off half the view keeping anything beyond it private, it simply wouldn't be the same without it. I love and hate this picture, and if pictures are meant to provoke any kind of reaction good or bad then in my book this is a success, better to make someone feel like this then have them walk straight past. Well done!!!
> Well I have to say I'm absolutely stumped! I literally cannot make up > my mind with this one, I do and I don't like it. It's a really > interesting view of a mooring and the B&W suits it well with some nice > tones and the blank sky doesn't bother me as there is so much in the > scene to keep you focused within the frame. I like your choice of DoF > with the distant subjects being soft. > But that sign, the sign, THE SIGN, it's really in your face and no > matter how many times I view the picture I keep reading that damn sign > even though I know what it says. Having said that it is an integral > part of the image because it says 'PRIVATE' and blocks off half the > view keeping anything beyond it private, it simply wouldn't be the > same without it. > I love and hate this picture, and if pictures are meant to provoke any > kind of reaction good or bad then in my book this is a success, better > to make someone feel like this then have them walk straight past. > Well done!!!
Sorry, this is partly my fault. I thought we were going every 2 weeks, so I wasn't in any hurry to ask for the next participant. I think if this is to continue we'll need others to step up with reminders for the next participant. With the increase in temperatures I'm outside shooting more, which means less time inside on the computer!
Hey guys, I subscribed to this group a while back, and feel a little lost. For example, the last few emails about whošs turn is next etc. I have no clue what this all means. Not to be critical but if the group were a little more user friendly to newer members then maybe you would not be short people for what ever it is you need done right now. I would love to participate in this group, but I just donšt know how to. There are probably others in the same situation John http://www.humangraffiti.com A Blog
On 3/9/07 4:14 PM, "Arne Gulstene" <shutterv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've passed the Torch along for next week.
> On 3/9/07, Dave <Davesphotogall...@googlemail.com > wrote:
>> Was wondering the same, c'mon Arne/people. Got this weekend to reply.
