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Robin  
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 More options Feb 19 2009, 2:34 am
From: Robin <robin.jewsb...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:34:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 2:34 am
Subject: Re: Nokia Series 60 experiements
I do think the conclusion of using WRT1.1 for PhoneGap is the right
approach.  This API has all the features of PhoneGap so just needs a
Javascript layer to translate between the 2 APIs.

WRT1.1 already exists and can be found in the Nokia 5800.  This is a
touch phone with a Safari brower and its possible to create code which
runs across all the PhoneGap handsets (with the possible exception of
Blackberry -dependent on your Javascript). The 5800 has a screen size
of 360x640 pixels so you just have to be aware your code has to take
account of screen dimensions and/or use CSS 100% commands.  I am
currently developing an application which runs on 5800, with the same
(HTML,CSS and JS) code running on the iPhone via PhoneGap  (I am not
using location, contacts etc so have not written any JS translation
layers).

Th next Nokia phone where this is possible is the N97 due in summer.
Even though it may take several years for all Nokia phones to support
WRT1.1, I would be aware that the number of phones sold for each model
is signficant outside the US.

Robin

On Feb 18, 11:02 pm, Mikko Ohtamaa <sna...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,

> We have made some experiements with Nokia Series 60 "Browser Control"
> component. Basically I think we know  what it would take to port
> PhoneGap to S60 and I know want to share this (so that no one needs to
> bang head to a wall again).

> There are two ways control the browser in S60: Browser Control and
> application overlay. The application overlay opens a new browser
> window on the top of your application. You cannot customize the
> browser UI, the options menu or anything else, so I think this is not
> a good approach because of the lack of control.

> Then there is Browser Controlhttp://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/47d8a7fe-768c-44e5-bc...
> which is "the right way" to embed
> WebKit in your application. You have total control over the surrouding
> UI. But looks like it the Browser Control itself is not the most
> robust piece of software and tends to have uncatchable crashes in
> various situations (page does not load, the page load is interrupted)
> and is stable enough only for offline applications.

> Also, we lack something like stringByEvaluatingJavaScriptFromString in
> the public API, so we cannot feed any data from the phone to the
> Javascript easily. However, it is possible for the shell application
> to have native code to listen to localhost socket for which Javascript
> connects using AJAX requests. Kuneri's KuneriLite does exactly this
> for Flash Lite.

> The third option is just wait 5 years when Nokia device base is
> satured by Series 60 fifth edition device which supports Nokia's Web
> Run-Time 1.1. WRT is Nokia's proprietary, closed, PhoneGap like
> platform.

> http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Category:Web_Runtime_(WRT)

> Some Nokia Series 60 devices support Web Run-Time 1.0 with an software
> update, but version 1.0 lacks all "PhoneGap abilities" like GPS. Both
> WRT technologies allow capsulating web application to installable
> Series 60 packages. Nokia doesn't seem to be keen on backporting WRT
> 1.1 to older devices, so this technology has currently near-zero
> market base.

> I think we are not pursuiting Series 60 very actively anymore, unless
> we got a customer case for it. We'll just wait that WRT 1.1 is
> widespread enough and make a PhoneGap adapter for it.

> Some experiemental Python code:

> https://code.launchpad.net/~jussi-toivola/pys60community/browserbranch

> Cheers,
> Mikko

> http://www.twinapex.com


 
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