> magic framework and jqtouch are the ones to watch (and play with). both have
> huge potential. Its also worth keeping an eye onhttp://cubiq.org/. he has
> been doing some cool stuff. he is the first person to *really* solve the
> fixed header/footer problem.

> - brock

> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Elmar Schumacher <el...@aerobis.com> wrote:
> > Cool. Thanks for the update. I´ll check it out. I was originally looking
> > for jQuery based frameworks because jQuery offers a nice, solid abstraction
> > at low cost but I understand that CSS3 transition support offers much more
> > in terms of smooth animations so I might just MF or even MF/jQuery.

> > Elmar

> > 2009/3/10 Jeff McFadden <jeff.mcfad...@gmail.com>

> >> FWIW, Inside Trader 2 is moving toward a much more iPhone-ish layout.
> >> Also, Magic Framework should give you as iPhone-esque of a layout as
> >> you want, with lists, buttons, headers, and sliding views. Of course
> >> it's not for everyone, but just as a point of note Magic Framework !=
> >> Inside Trader exactly.

> >> In fact, Inside Trader 1.0-1.1 doesn't even use Magic Framework at
> >> all.

> >> -- Jeff

> >> On Mar 10, 9:44 am, Elmar Schumacher <el...@aerobis.com> wrote:
> >> > Thanks for the detailed reply. Very appreciated. I´ll scan through the
> >> > links.

> >> > I looked at magic framework and the resulting trader app in particular.
> >> It
> >> > seems to me like the app-screens don´t look very iPhony. But I am new to
> >> > this and probably not the right person to judge this.

> >> > Thanks again,
> >> > Elmar

> >> > 2009/3/10 Paul Prescod <pres...@gmail.com>

> >> > > As you noted, iUI's transitions are not really usable. But the deeper
> >> > > problem is that iUI's stylesheets and code depend on the DOM structure
> >> > > being exactly as they are in the iUI demos. If you start adding
> >> > > elements like headers or footers, things break. Like iUI wants things
> >> > > in HTML > BODY > UL and things break if you have HTML > BODY > DIV>
> >> > > UL.

> >> > > There are various forks of iUI and libraries "inspired by" iUI that
> >> > > are probably more appropriate. Unfortunately, it is kind of the wild
> >> > > west out there with various libraries each doing 70% of what the other
> >> > > libraries do, so it's hard to point to a single one and say: "That's
> >> > > probably what you need." New libraries sprout up more quickly than
> >> > > anyone has an opportunity to evaluate them. There is a list here:

> >> > > PhoneGap-compatible Javascript frameworks:
> >> > > iUI - make iPhone-feeling interfaces
> >> > > xUI - slimmed down jQuery work-alike
> >> > > Magic Framework - make fast and smooth iPhone-feeling apps with
> >> > > native-feeling widgets, lists, etc.
> >> > > Dashcode - Framework from Apple
> >> > > JQTouch - JQuery Plugin for Making iPhone-like apps
> >> > > CiUI - CNET iPhone UI
> >> > > Safire - Zillow JS/CSS framework (MIT License)

> >> > >http://phonegap.pbwiki.com/

> >> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Elmar Schumacher <el...@aerobis.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > Hi there,

> >> > > > just wanted to know if anyone has used iui in the past to mimic
> >> iPhone
> >> > > user
> >> > > > interfaces with PhoneGap. Although it seems to not take advantage of
> >> CSS3
> >> > > I
> >> > > > like its ajax-component approach, where bits and pieces get loaded
> >> on
> >> > > demand
> >> > > > to keep loading-times small and the interface responsive.

> >> > > > cheers,
> >> > > > Elmar

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