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Mikko Ohtamaa  
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 More options Apr 22 2009, 4:14 pm
From: Mikko Ohtamaa <sna...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:14:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 22 2009 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: Nokia Series 60 experiements

> Thanks for this review.  Unfortunate that 'Browser Control' is not
> robust enough.  Guess we wait for WRT.

Looks like our "competitors" have settled for it:

http://github.com/rhomobile/rhodes/tree/95c3b691d1608e8ef17a5c06ec15d...

http://rhomobile.com

Rhomobile combines embedded Ruby (not just Javascript) + Browser UI.
It support "all" smartphones via JRuby and Ruby C implementations.
It's dual licensed under GPL - you need to pay for commercial
releases.

Cheers,
Mikko

> Dave Oliver

> On Feb 18, 7:02 pm, Mikko Ohtamaa <sna...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hi,

> > We have made some experiements with Nokia Series 60 "Browser Control"
> > component. Basically I think we know  what it would take to port
> > PhoneGap to S60 and I know want to share this (so that no one needs to
> > bang head to a wall again).

> > There are two ways control the browser in S60: Browser Control and
> > application overlay. The application overlay opens a new browser
> > window on the top of your application. You cannot customize the
> > browser UI, the options menu or anything else, so I think this is not
> > a good approach because of the lack of control.

> > Then there is Browser Controlhttp://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/47d8a7fe-768c-44e5-bc...
> > which is "the right way" to embed
> > WebKit in your application. You have total control over the surrouding
> > UI. But looks like it the Browser Control itself is not the most
> > robust piece of software and tends to have uncatchable crashes in
> > various situations (page does not load, the page load is interrupted)
> > and is stable enough only for offline applications.

> > Also, we lack something like stringByEvaluatingJavaScriptFromString in
> > the public API, so we cannot feed any data from the phone to the
> > Javascript easily. However, it is possible for the shell application
> > to have native code to listen to localhost socket for which Javascript
> > connects using AJAX requests. Kuneri's KuneriLite does exactly this
> > for Flash Lite.

> > The third option is just wait 5 years when Nokia device base is
> > satured by Series 60 fifth edition device which supports Nokia's Web
> > Run-Time 1.1. WRT is Nokia's proprietary, closed, PhoneGap like
> > platform.

> >http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Category:Web_Runtime_(WRT)

> > Some Nokia Series 60 devices support Web Run-Time 1.0 with an software
> > update, but version 1.0 lacks all "PhoneGap abilities" like GPS. Both
> > WRT technologies allow capsulating web application to installable
> > Series 60 packages. Nokia doesn't seem to be keen on backporting WRT
> > 1.1 to older devices, so this technology has currently near-zero
> > market base.

> > I think we are not pursuiting Series 60 very actively anymore, unless
> > we got a customer case for it. We'll just wait that WRT 1.1 is
> > widespread enough and make a PhoneGap adapter for it.

> > Some experiemental Python code:

> >https://code.launchpad.net/~jussi-toivola/pys60community/browserbranch

> > Cheers,
> > Mikko

> >http://www.twinapex.com


 
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