Phoenix Ruby Conference brand/naming ideas

[nick hammond]

The only name that really comes to mind so far is "Southwest Ruby
Conference" or some variation of that.

What other ideas do you guys have?

Desert RubyConf
Southwest RubyConf
Phoenix RubyConf
Little Ruby Conference(Andy)
Southwest Ruby
Ruby in the Desert(lame)

[Saul Mora]

Grand Canyon Ruby Conference

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[Ray Niemeir]

Desert West RubyConf

[Michael Hacker]

For a subtitle, how about "It's a DRY heat?"

http://instantrimshot.com/

[Brian Sam-Bodden]

Desert RubyConf sounds pretty good to me. 

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Michael Hacker <munk...@gmail.com> wrote:

For a subtitle, how about "It's a DRY heat?"

http://instantrimshot.com/

[Chad Woolley]

Yeah, #desertrubyconf is good...

[Steve Byrne]

Maybe instead of the subtitle proposed, instead how about "Feel the DRY heat in the desert!" (think Vegas style tag lines)

Or maybe not ;)

[Marc Chung]

When I think of Desert, I think of hot, uninhabited, bare,
impoverished, sand, did I mention hot? How about WildRuby?

- Marc

[Logan Barnett]

SunnyConf

Logan Barnett

[Mike Benner]

I like WildRuby

[Michael Hacker]

I think you need to add the instant rim shot at the end to make it
more official.

[Mike Benner]

In the Vegas theme "The Hottest Ruby Conference in the World"

[Brian Sam-Bodden]

"Steak, Strippers, Ruby..." just kidding. I do like the "DRY" tag line/motto. For the main title I like a compromise between a fun title and one were it sounds like we have our act together. "Southwest" and "Desert" work for me. But I agree with Marc "Desert" might bring images of desolation, erosion, dead! 

[MilesTogoe]

On 12/07/2009 10:25 AM, Mike Benner wrote:
> I like WildRuby
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Logan Barnett<logu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> SunnyConf
>>
>> Logan Barnett
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Marc Chung wrote:
>>
>>
>>> When I think of Desert, I think of hot, uninhabited, bare,
>>> impoverished, sand, did I mention hot? How about WildRuby?
>>>
>>> - Marc
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Chad Woolley<thewoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, #desertrubyconf is good...
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Brian Sam-Bodden
>>>> <bsbo...@integrallis.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Desert RubyConf sounds pretty good to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Michael Hacker<munk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For a subtitle, how about "It's a DRY heat?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://instantrimshot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

the "DRY" slogan idea is clever, regional, unique

from what's out there I do like:
Desert (or Phoenix or Southwest) Ruby "The hottest, DRYest Ruby
Conference"

[barjunk]

Serious suggestions:

DRY Heat RubyConf



Silly suggestions:

Purposeful misspelling - Southwest Ruby Dessert Conf

[Jay McGavren]

I liked SouthWest RubyConf the moment I heard it. It instantly
communicates (roughly) where we are, sounds inclusive of Nevada, New
Mexico, and Utah (Phoenix RubyConf sounds a little too local), and
doesn't immediately make people think of sweltering heat (like Desert
RubyConf).

Although, if we called it Grand Canyon RubyConf we *would* get to go
around saying Guh-Cah-Ru-Co all day... :)

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[Naum]

Desert Ruby

drubydo

On Dec 7, 12:00 pm, Jay McGavren <jay.spam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I liked SouthWest RubyConf the moment I heard it.  It instantly
> communicates (roughly) where we are, sounds inclusive of Nevada, New
> Mexico, and Utah (Phoenix RubyConf sounds a little too local), and
> doesn't immediately make people think of sweltering heat (like Desert
> RubyConf).
>
> Although, if we called it Grand Canyon RubyConf we *would* get to go
> around saying Guh-Cah-Ru-Co all day...  :)
>
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[Daniel Hixon]

Ruby Sands
Ruby Skies
Sonoran Ruby
Ruby in the Rough
SaGuaRoCo +10 points if you get this one ;)

-Dan

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[Michael Hacker]

I may never be a great coder, but I am definitely clever, regional, and unique.

[jesse frye]

I like Southwest RubyConf

[Chad Woolley]

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Jay McGavren <jay.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I liked SouthWest RubyConf the moment I heard it.  It instantly
> communicates (roughly) where we are, sounds inclusive of Nevada, New
> Mexico, and Utah (Phoenix RubyConf sounds a little too local), and
> doesn't immediately make people think of sweltering heat (like Desert
> RubyConf).

I agree. SouthWest RubyConf is more inclusive and appropriate. Why
not go ahead and claim the whole region? And it has an even shorter
tag #swrubyconf

[Derek Neighbors]

I like both SouthWest and DesertRubyConf.. I think we do a disservice
by making it Phoenix or Arizona.. In name, logo or branding...


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Integrum Technologies



On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:40 AM, jesse frye <jesse...@137clothing.com> wrote:
> I like Southwest RubyConf

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[Chris Cowan]

I would vote for Southwest Ruby Conf.

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[Chris Conrey]

To my ear, SouthWest could easily blend into MountainWest and lose differentiation.  Doubly so since they are relatively close to us.

Desert Ruby Conf is a bit more different from a branding standpoint.

Chris Conrey
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[Michael Hacker]

How about "Strippers, and Cactus, and Ruby (Oh My!)?"

[Chad Woolley]

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Michael Hacker <munk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about "Strippers, and Cactus, and Ruby (Oh My!)?"

Given the past fiascos at other Ruby Conferences, we should avoid
mentioning anything that can be construed as even vaguely
misogynistic...

[Marc Chung]

Chad,

I agree and thank you for mentioning this. -1 on anything misogynistic.

- Marc

[Chris Conrey]

They’ve got Ruby Hoe Down, how much more misogynistic can you be? 

Chris Conrey
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[Brian Sam-Bodden]

Along those lines I apologize for my poorly crafted Vegas reference. The valley Ruby community is small enough as it is, surely don't want to alienate anyone. 

Sent from my iPhone

[Andy Ferra]

Ok folks, time to vote.

http://surveys.polldaddy.com/s/96E95DCEB8ABD48A/

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[Andy Ferra]

Everybody make sure to get your votes in, I'm closing the poll Tuesday
and we'll have a name!

On Dec 8, 9:29 pm, Andy Ferra <afe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok folks, time to vote.http://surveys.polldaddy.com/s/96E95DCEB8ABD48A/

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> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Brian Sam-Bodden <bsbod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Along those lines I apologize for my poorly crafted Vegas reference. The
> > valley Ruby community is small enough as it is, surely don't want to
> > alienate anyone.
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Chris Conrey <con...@chrisconrey.com> wrote:
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> > They’ve got Ruby Hoe Down, how much more misogynistic can you be?
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> > Chris Conrey

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> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Marc Chung < <mch...@gmail.com>
> > mch...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Chad,
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> >> I agree and thank you for mentioning this. -1 on anything misogynistic.
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> >> - Marc
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[Derek Neighbors]

Let me be the one to say, deciding on an organizations name by popular
vote is less than optimal. Especially as people could be voting that
will put no effort into the product. I think its valid to get the
public opinion on the name to narrow the choices and then have
meaningful dialog on the final name. With luck the final name and
what the public chose will be the same, but in reality there might be
good reason why they aren't.

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[Andy Ferra]

Thanks for saying that. 

I didn't know how to broach that subject, but I agree 100%.

On Dec 12, 2009 11:42 PM, "Derek Neighbors" <de...@integrumtech.com> wrote:

Let me be the one to say, deciding on an organizations name by popular
vote is less than optimal.  Especially as people could be voting that
will put no effort into the product.  I think its valid to get the
public opinion on the name to narrow the choices and then have
meaningful dialog on the final name.  With luck the final name and
what the public chose will be the same, but in reality there might be
good reason why they aren't.

--
Derek Neighbors
Integrum Technologies

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Andy Ferra <afe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Everybody make sure to g...

[Mike Moore]

I will take that one step further and say that organizing a conference by popular vote is less than optimal. In fact, its a total pain. I tried it for the first MWRC and it didn't work for us. I was lucky enough to work with Pat Eyler who had a real vision of how the conference should be. In the end we just executed his vision.

How we work now is we have a small board of advisors to make sure we are making good decisions.This has worked surprisingly well for us.

FWIW, YMMV, etc.

[James Britt]

Mike Moore wrote:
> I will take that one step further and say that organizing a conference by
> popular vote is less than optimal. In fact, its a total pain. I tried
it for
> the first MWRC and it didn't work for us. I was lucky enough to work with
> Pat Eyler who had a real vision of how the conference should be. In
the end
> we just executed his vision.
>
> How we work now is we have a small board of advisors to make sure we are
> making good decisions.This has worked surprisingly well for us.
>
> FWIW, YMMV, etc.

Working from the consensus of a large group of people has serious
downsides, but one upside is that the people for whom the event is
intended have both a sense of inclusion in the process and an
understanding of how decisions get made. It makes more of a community
activity. But, as Mike pointed out, the overhead can be high.

If things are not going to be decided by popular vote then whatever
means is used should at least be made public.

I don't think I ever actively participated in conferences until getting
into Ruby, and when I submitted proposals for RubyConf talks I was
pretty sure I knew who would be deciding what got accepted or not. I
didn't give it much thought until Ignite Phoenix got rolling. I had a
hand in the first event (and helped pick the talks), but after that I
was a spectator.

It occurred to me that people were being asked to take the time and
trouble to think of a talk proposal, and asked to help promote Ignite
Phoenix, but no one was told who would be judging these submissions or
by what criteria. That's a bit unfair.

When I asked about this, I was told that the selection team was kept
secret to avoid them being unduly influenced in their choices.

That's a pretty specious argument; if someone is too spineless to resist
voting for their friends, they're too spineless to resist telling their
friends they are on the event team in the first place. The better plan
is not to have team members who are so easily swayed.

(BTW, for the record, I'm on the advisory team for the upcoming MWRC.)

Now when I hear of events asking for talk proposals I want to know who
are the organizers, who's picking the talks, and what are the general
criteria for selection.

There's a bunch of stuff I want to know when asked to support an event,
if even by attending: Are talks to be recorded, and made freely
available? Who are the sponsors? Is it being used as a corporate or
product promotional event?

Bottom line: however decisions are going to be made, transparency is
important unless someone has a really good argument for keeping things
secret.

Not all of the details can be known upfront, and things can change based
on the logistics of running an event, but if you're asking people to
help out then they deserve to be kept informed.


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[barjunk]

On Dec 13, 12:05 pm, Andy Ferra <afe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for saying that.
>
> I didn't know how to broach that subject, but I agree 100%.
>
> On Dec 12, 2009 11:42 PM, "Derek Neighbors" <de...@integrumtech.com> wrote:
>
> Let me be the one to say, deciding on an organizations name by popular
> vote is less than optimal.  Especially as people could be voting that
> will put no effort into the product.  I think its valid to get the
> public opinion on the name to narrow the choices and then have
> meaningful dialog on the final name.  With luck the final name and
> what the public chose will be the same, but in reality there might be
> good reason why they aren't.
>

Being someone that will not be able to participate because of
distance, I agree with Derek.

Good luck with picking a good name.

Mike B.