Gaza attacks Israel. Again.
hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com
Katyusha-type rocket fired by militants from Gaza struck the Israeli
coastal city of Ashkelon on Friday, damaging buildings and causing
panic after more than a year of relative calm."
In March 2010, a rocket from Gaza killed a farm worker, as reported by
the NYT on 3/18/2010.
John Fisher
WHAT DID/HAS the Criminal State of Israel done to evoke responses
which they hope to used to support its ill founded claims???
Check out some to the myths surrounding the actions of the "CRIMINAL
STATE OF ISRAEL":
John Fisher
> On Jul 30, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > The NYT reported today that Gaza attacked Israel. "JERUSALEM — A
> > Katyusha-type rocket fired by militants from Gaza struck the Israeli
> > coastal city of Ashkelon on Friday, damaging buildings and causing
> > panic after more than a year of relative calm."
>
> > In March 2010, a rocket from Gaza killed a farm worker, as reported by
> > the NYT on 3/18/2010.
>
WHAT DID/HAS the Criminal State of Israel done to evoke responses
which they hope to used to support its ill founded claims???
Check out some to the myths surrounding the actions of the "CRIMINAL
STATE OF ISRAEL":
http://windowintopalestine.blogspot.com/2010/07/top-ten-myths-about-i...
Neolibertarian
<23e5804b-1e8e-4b5b...@v32g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
John Fisher <TaxSe...@aol.com> wrote:
You've given no one any reason whatsoever to click on the link, dummy.
Why not explain the "myths" about "the criminal state of Israel,"
yourself?
--
Neolibertarian
"[The American People] know that we don't have deficits
because people are taxed too little; we have deficits
because big government spends too much."
---Ronald Reagan
snakehawk
> On Aug 1, 6:05 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 30, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > > The NYT reported today that Gaza attacked Israel. "JERUSALEM — A
> > > Katyusha-type rocket fired by militants from Gaza struck the Israeli
> > > coastal city of Ashkelon on Friday, damaging buildings and causing
> > > panic after more than a year of relative calm."
>
> > > In March 2010, a rocket from Gaza killed a farm worker, as reported by
> > > the NYT on 3/18/2010.
>
> WHAT DID/HAS the Criminal State of Israel done to evoke responses
> which they hope to used to support its ill founded claims???
>
Reporting that some of the desperate people trapped in the huge
concentration camp called Gaza struck back at Israel is like
criticizing kidnap victims for trying to hurt their kidnappers.
Imagine your home surrounded a vicious gang who who refused to allow
you to get medicine for your children. Would you think it would be
unfair for you to take an occasional shot at them?
drahcir
> On Aug 1, 5:09 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 1, 6:05 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 30, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > > > The NYT reported today that Gaza attacked Israel. "JERUSALEM — A
> > > > Katyusha-type rocket fired by militants from Gaza struck the Israeli
> > > > coastal city of Ashkelon on Friday, damaging buildings and causing
> > > > panic after more than a year of relative calm."
>
> > > > In March 2010, a rocket from Gaza killed a farm worker, as reported by
> > > > the NYT on 3/18/2010.
>
> > WHAT DID/HAS the Criminal State of Israel done to evoke responses
> > which they hope to used to support its ill founded claims???
>
> Reporting that some of the desperate people trapped in the huge
> concentration camp
Typical weakling using obviously hyperbolic terms. Get real.
called Gaza struck back at Israel
Why "strike back"? They are there because arabs have deemed it
politically advantageous for them to be there. 600,000 Jews were
ethnically cleansed from arab countries in the late forties and all of
their property stolen from them - they and their descendants moved on
with their lives long ago. There's a reason.
is like
> criticizing kidnap victims for trying to hurt their kidnappers.
> Imagine your home surrounded a vicious gang who who refused to allow
> you to get medicine for your children. Would you think it would be
> unfair for you to take an occasional shot at them?
Solution is simple: No rockets, no terrorism = no blockade.
last_per...@yahoo.com
> In article
> <23e5804b-1e8e-4b5b-920d-7f1ccdfa0...@v32g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 1, 6:05 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 30, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > > > The NYT reported today that Gaza attacked Israel. "JERUSALEM ‹ A
> > > > Katyusha-type rocket fired by militants from Gaza struck the Israeli
> > > > coastal city of Ashkelon on Friday, damaging buildings and causing
> > > > panic after more than a year of relative calm."
>
> > > > In March 2010, a rocket from Gaza killed a farm worker, as reported by
> > > > the NYT on 3/18/2010.
>
> > WHAT DID/HAS the Criminal State of Israel done to evoke responses
> > which they hope to used to support its ill founded claims???
>
> > Check out some to the myths surrounding the actions of the "CRIMINAL
> > STATE OF ISRAEL":
>
> You've given no one any reason whatsoever to click on the link, dummy.
>
> Why not explain the "myths" about "the criminal state of Israel,"
> yourself?
Only a ZioNazi turd (or shit-for-brains goy) would embarrass himself
with the question.
last_per...@yahoo.com
and who've already killed and maimed numerous family members and
friends.
> Would you think it would be
> unfair for you to take an occasional shot at them?
But a bottle rocket hitting two miles from a ZioNazi Turd shithouse
will bring an F-16.
John Fisher
> In article
> <23e5804b-1e8e-4b5b-920d-7f1ccdfa0...@v32g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 1, 6:05 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 30, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > > > The NYT reported today that Gaza attacked Israel. "JERUSALEM ‹ A
> > > > Katyusha-type rocket fired by militants from Gaza struck the Israeli
> > > > coastal city of Ashkelon on Friday, damaging buildings and causing
> > > > panic after more than a year of relative calm."
>
> > > > In March 2010, a rocket from Gaza killed a farm worker, as reported by
> > > > the NYT on 3/18/2010.
>
> > WHAT DID/HAS the Criminal State of Israel done to evoke responses
> > which they hope to used to support its ill founded claims???
>
> > Check out some to the myths surrounding the actions of the "CRIMINAL
> > STATE OF ISRAEL":
>
> You've given no one any reason whatsoever to click on the link, dummy.
>
> Why not explain the "myths" about "the criminal state of Israel,"
> yourself?
>
> --
> Neolibertarian
>
> "[The American People] know that we don't have deficits
> because people are taxed too little; we have deficits
> because big government spends too much."
>
> - Show quoted text -
Is the use of terms like "Jewish Nazism" Justified?
Saturday, July 31
Topics Khalid Amayreh | | 0comments | ShareThis
by Khalid AmayrehI do realize that the use of terms like "Jewish
Nazism" offends many people, particularly among Jews. However, those
offended should also have sufficient rectitude to call the spade a
spade, especially when they see it in Jewish hands.
In the final analysis, we are living in a moral universe where truth
should apply to all human beings equally. This means that all peoples
and all communities, Jews and non-Jews alike, ought to be treated in
accordance with the same moral standards.
In fact, this is what the Ten Commandments taught thousands of years
ago. Hence, when the Almighty taught "thou shall not murder," He meant
thou shall not murder any human beings, and when He taught "thou shall
not steal," He meant "thou shall not steal from any human beings." And
when He taught thou "shall not lie," He meant "thou shall not lie to
any human beings."
Unfortunately, some misguided Talmudic sages, who appeared hundreds of
years later, distorted the meaning and intention of these sublime
moral standards, by arguing rather erroneously that since these
commandments were given to "Jews," it followed that Jews and Jews
alone were concerned with these principles. The implication was very
clear: "Thou shall not murder" meant thou shall not murder a Jew.
"Thou shall not steal" meant thou shall not steal from a Jew, and
"thou shall not lie" meant thou shall not lie to a Jew. As to non-
Jews, the goyem, who are often viewed as cattle in some Talmudic
literature, they may be murdered, stolen from and lied to. The reason
is clear. Goyem are not bona fide human beings and their very
existence is not essential in terms of universal wisdom.
I have opted to begin with this introduction, not so much to malign
Jews, but rather to elucidate how far they, or most of them, have
deviated from the original message of the Torah by adopting a racist
and segregationalist interpretation of an originally universal and
integrationalist message. The great Jewish author and intellectual
Alfred Lilienthal described this serious distortion in his great book
"the Zionist Connection" as "having a hoarding on God"
Unfortunately, as a result of this serious distortion of the original
glorious Judaic message sprang many Jewish sects and movements that
eventually came to view the rest of humanity as inherently inferior to
Jews in every conceivable aspect. Take for example, the Chabad
movement, which can be described as Judeo-Nazi group without the
slightest exaggeration.
According to Chabad's fundamental book "hatanya", "Non-Jews are
totally satanic creatures in whom there is absolutely nothing good.
Even a non-Jewish embryo is qualitatively different from a Jewish
embryo. The very existence of non-Jew is inessential, whereas all of
creation was created solely for the sake of the Jews."
More than a year ago, Manis Friedman, a prominent and highly-respected
Chabad-Lubavitch "rabbi" living in Minnesota , wrote in response to a
question that "the only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish war.
Destroy their holy sites, kill their men, women and children, and the
cattle."
Writing in the Moment magazine, the Rabbi added "I don't believe in
western morality, living by the Torah values will make us the light to
the nations who suffer defeat because of disastrous morality of human
invention."
So, this despicable thug wants to be a light upon the nations by
murdering our "men, women, and children and even cattle."!!!
In fact, Friedman in no way represents the exception as his ideas
represent the mainstream especially among Zionist Judaism, which is
now dominant in Israel.
Another Chabadist-affiliate, Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira, wrote a book a few
months ago, permitting Jews to murder non-Jewish civilians even if
they didn't pose any immediate threat to Jews.
The book, named "The King's Torah," deems the killing of non-Jews
religiously permissible. "It is permissible to kill the Righteous
among Nations even if they are not responsible for the threatening
situation," the book says, adding: "If we kill a Gentile who has
sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments - because we care
about the commandments - there is nothing wrong with the murder."
The theological mentor of Zionist Judaism, Abraham Kook, preached the
absolute superiority of Jews over non-Jews just as the Nazis taught
the superiority of Aryans over the rest of mankind.
According to the book Jewish Fundamentalism, written by Israel Shahak
and Norton Mezvinsky, Kook wrote that "the difference between a Jewish
soul and souls of non-Jews -all of them in all different levels- is
greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the
souls of cattle."
The teachings of Kook are based on the Lurianic Cabala (Jewish
Mysticism). Which teaches the absolute superiority of the Jewish soul
and body over the non-Jewish soul and body. This means, according to
one Lubavitcher Rabbi that "every simple cell in a Jewish body entails
divinity and is part of God."
In 2003, Rabbi Sadya Grama of the Beth Medrash Govoha, the renowned
Talmudic school of Lakewood, NJ, published a book in which he claimed
that Gentiles were completely evil and that Jews constituted a
separate, genetically superior species.
The book, published under the Hebrew title "Romemut Yisrael Ufrashat
Haghalut" quoted numerous classical Jewish sources to prove Jewish
superiority over the rest of mankind.
The difference between Jews and gentiles, the author argued, is not
religious, historical or political. It is rather racial, genetic and
scientifically unalterable. One group is at its very root and by
natural constitution "totally evil" while the other is "totally good."
"Jewish success in the world is completely contingent upon the failure
of all other peoples, only when the gentiles face total catastrophe,
Jews do experience good fortune. The Jews themselves brought their own
destruction during the Holocaust since they arrogantly endeavored to
overcome their very essence, dictated by divine law."
A few years ago, Mordechai Elyahu, religious mentor and leader of
hundreds of thousands of Zionist-religious Jews in Israel, advocated a
total genocide of Gaza civilians in retaliation for mostly innocuous
resistance attacks by Palestinian freedom fighters, carried out in
response to devastating daily attacks by the Israeli occupation army.
Elyahu, who died a few weeks ago, wrote that it was forbidden to risk
the lives of Jews for fear of injuring or killing Palestinian
civilians.
"If they don't stop after we kill 100, then we must kill a thousand,
and if they don't stop after 1,000 then we must kill 10,000. If they
still don't stop we must kill, 100,00, even a million. Whatever it
takes to make them stop."
He reportedly quoted Psalm, saying "I will pursue my enemies and
apprehend them and I will not desist until I have eradicated them." In
other words "No hold barred." This is the same policy that the Nazi
leadership adopted vis-à-vis the European Jewry in the course of the
Second World War. We all know the rest of the story.
There is no doubt that these clear-cut Nazi doctrines serve as a
philosophical basis for Israel 's genocidal crimes against the
Palestinian, the Lebanese and other peoples of the Middle East.
This journalist had spoken with several Israeli soldiers who explained
rather candidly that "we are only doing to you what the Nazis did to
us."
Again, the purpose of this piece is not to incite against Jews,
especially honest and God-fearing Jews who love and respect their
fellow human beings. Moreover, I do recognize that there is ample
Jewish literature that urges Jews to treat their fellow human beings
as they wish to be treated by them. Unfortunately this literature is
ignored by the bulk of Zionist rabbis since it doesn't serve their
hateful agenda.
None the less, there are obviously too many Jews who have opted to
walk in the path of evil and criminality, the path of Zionism.
Needless to say, these people are a cancer upon the true conscience of
Judaism.
It is those people that should be isolated and exposed, because, if
not, they would kill the remaining humanity in the heart of every
Jewish man, woman and child. The harm has already been done. We can
only hope that that Jews will undergo a speedy awakening in order to
eradicate the cancer called Zionism.
John Fisher
> In article
> <23e5804b-1e8e-4b5b-920d-7f1ccdfa0...@v32g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 1, 6:05 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 30, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > > > The NYT reported today that Gaza attacked Israel. "JERUSALEM ‹ A
> > > > Katyusha-type rocket fired by militants from Gaza struck the Israeli
> > > > coastal city of Ashkelon on Friday, damaging buildings and causing
> > > > panic after more than a year of relative calm."
>
> > > > In March 2010, a rocket from Gaza killed a farm worker, as reported by
> > > > the NYT on 3/18/2010.
>
> > WHAT DID/HAS the Criminal State of Israel done to evoke responses
> > which they hope to used to support its ill founded claims???
>
> > Check out some to the myths surrounding the actions of the "CRIMINAL
> > STATE OF ISRAEL":
>
> You've given no one any reason whatsoever to click on the link, dummy.
>
> Why not explain the "myths" about "the criminal state of Israel,"
> yourself?
>
> --
> Neolibertarian
>
> "[The American People] know that we don't have deficits
> because people are taxed too little; we have deficits
> because big government spends too much."
>
> - Show quoted text -
Perhaps you arrived at the wrong link!!!-:) Here are the"MYTHS" you
may wish to study:
STOP THE LIES, BOYCOTT ISRAEL, and insist on PEACE IN THE MIDDLE
EAST!!! The Criminal State of Israel must be brought to task and
enter sincere negations sine its lies, propaganda, false flags, and
instignations. (mnsvho)
John Fisher
>
> STOP THE LIES, BOYCOTT ISRAEL, and insist on PEACE IN THE MIDDLE
> EAST!!! The Criminal State of Israel must be brought to task and
> enter sincere negations sine its lies, propaganda, false flags, and
>
> - Show quoted text -
Here are some movies which may impact on your psyche:
http://ironlight.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/criminal-state-a-closer-look-at-israels-role-in-terrorism/
Neolibertarian
<1f3d3d6b-afdf-4091...@n19g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
John Fisher <TaxSe...@aol.com> wrote:
I didn't click, idiot.
John Fisher
If you are afraid to face the facts, and weigh truths, you will remain
blind to any remedy!!!
Speaking of BIG government spending too much - do you think the U.S.
should continue to finance the Criminal State of Israel???
Zev
Like the man said, you know the solution.
Shylock
> In article
> <23e5804b-1e8e-4b5b-920d-7f1ccdfa0...@v32g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 1, 6:05 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 30, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > > > The NYT reported today that Gaza attacked Israel. "JERUSALEM ‹ A
> > > > Katyusha-type rocket fired by militants from Gaza struck the Israeli
> > > > coastal city of Ashkelon on Friday, damaging buildings and causing
> > > > panic after more than a year of relative calm."
>
> > > > In March 2010, a rocket from Gaza killed a farm worker, as reported by
> > > > the NYT on 3/18/2010.
>
> > WHAT DID/HAS the Criminal State of Israel done to evoke responses
> > which they hope to used to support its ill founded claims???
>
> > Check out some to the myths surrounding the actions of the "CRIMINAL
> > STATE OF ISRAEL":
>
> You've given no one any reason whatsoever to click on the link, dummy.
>
> Why not explain the "myths" about "the criminal state of Israel,"
> yourself?
>
> --
> Neolibertarian
>
> "[The American People] know that we don't have deficits
> because people are taxed too little; we have deficits
> because big government spends too much."
>
> - Show quoted text -
>
>
Hello,
This is rather generic, however you can find some things to your
satisfaction:
Hello fellow Christians,
Iam sorry about this following being so screwed up, however iam
getting info. (links) to you as it comes to me. I will get it
chronologically correct later, if there is any time left for either of
us:
BioFuels:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1108395/pg1
“WhatAre Those Rothschild Limeys Doing On My TV”
Hello,
I feel i have found the proof the Rothschild pack did the Gulf Oil
Spill to destroy our Tourist Trade, and arenot yet finished with us.
So please read following and see if iam correct or not. Thank you.
Up date: It looks as if I was off a little, as this looks a little
better, and explains my question:
“WhatAre Those Rothschild Limeys Doing On My TV”?
BP-Rothschild needs all of Florida:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1089733/pg1
“Why Is the Gulf Cleanup So Slow?”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703426004575339650877298556.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion
Or:
http://tinyurl.com/slowCleanup
http://pascasher.blogspot.com/2010/06/bp-fief-des-rothschild.html
Rothschild Boulevard in Tel Aviv:
http://vostokzapad.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/rothschild-boulevard/
The Jew House of Rothschild (Of No-Worries-England) Owns BP and
"Israel":
The Gulf Oil Spill:
So you think this helping hand is an accident, in “Israel’s”
insanely
rabid desire to eliminate ALL, World, Tourist-Trade competition?
Then Read This (starting with):
"VISITING THE NATION THE ROTHSCHILDS BUILT"
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/rothschild.htm
now:
See Poor, Abused, Needy, Bombed Jews w/4th largest Military in World,
Spend Your Hard-earned Wages (Foreign Aid):
http://tinyurl.com/yx4d7r
and
http://www.hotels-of-israel.com/laromme/front700.jpg
The Daniel Dead Sea Hotel:
http://media.expedia.com/hotels/3000000/2810000/2807300/2807264/2807264_11_b.jpg
And:
http://media.expedia.com/hotels/3000000/2810000/2807300/2807264/2807264_9_b.jpg
and
http://www.hotels-of-israel.com/
Obama: “I will never waver from supporting Israel"
http://www.youtube.com/user/DestroyZOG12
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/gulf-oil-spill-supertankers-051310
Jews Persecute Palestinians:
http://www.youtube.com/user/91177info
http://www.youtube.com/user/jacobpetty55555
BP-Rothschild Needs ALL of Florida:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1089733/pg1
Re: Scrump's Newsletter 6/2010 *The Intentional Destruction Of Our
Gulf-The Killers Expose Themselves* Quote
“The Elite want Florida and the gulf states in case Katla Blows.
History shows that every time Eyjafjallajokull blows Katla does and
Eyj just blew. This gives us 6 months or so before Katla blows and
when it does it will freeze UK up tight for several years leaving the
elite defenseless. UKs war machine will be nearly destroyed.
Gardening, imports and exports will suffer greatly. THEY REALLY COULD
USE FLORIDA! They will leave their people there to freeze. America
will freeze up too and Im sure Pelosi will enjoy Florida...
Those states will be the few and only English speaking states that
could still garden outdoors if/after Katla blows.
Heck, the UN already has 4000 vehicles in the Haliburton / BP
affiliated Reynolds Airpark in Florida! Railway and everything! [link
to www.godlikeproductions.com]
They want to destroy Americans
They want the population reduced globally by 95%
They want the gulf states . . .
pretty much sums it up for me…:”
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1111961/pg1
http://iceland.vefur.is/iceland_nature/Volcanoes_in_Iceland/katla.htm
Proves Rothschild Murdered Kennedy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USGSOViaulc&NR=1
Exposing Israel (MUST SEE!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li8objISiNY&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/user/lonelantern
http://www.youtube.com/user/george4title
Think Rainforest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un8co1d4zb4
The House of Rothschild:
“Oil Spill = Illuminati's Covert War on America”
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=12740
And
http://tinyurl.com/heliumBp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Dutch_Shell
Who Created the Modern Day State of Israel? When Did All This Killing
Start? Who's Idea Was this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f__eXWzlYDk&feature=related
Petroleum Engineer -Gulf Oil Rig Intentionally Sabotaged
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/10_Cosmic/100615.Gulf.sabotage.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread583367/pg1
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/05/benzene-link-to-aids-and-other-facts.html
Oil spill is an epic disaster of Biblical Proportions could kill
Billions!
Great Analysis Of Exactly What Is Going On
The BP Deep water horizon, Macondo Well Blowout.
and what we are facing in the Gulf.
By SHR
5-15-10
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/05/oil-spill-is-epic-disaster-of-biblical.html#
OR:
http://tinyurl.com/295kndg
Biofuels:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1108395/pg1
3rd/4th PLUMES:
http://www.georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/05/third-giant-underwater-oil-plume.html
Or
http://tinyurl.com/3rdPlume
http://www.youtube.com/user/celtickev999
http://www.radicalpress.com/?cat=200
http://tinyurl.com/WhyWeHateJews
Jew ARE racists, you know: http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0902/p06s01-wome.html
See Jew Murder Millions Upon Millions:
http://www.jewwatch.com
and
http://judicial-inc.biz
See Jew Murder USA Military Boys(USS LIBERTY): http://www.gtr5.com/
See Jew Starve and MassMurder Indigenous People:
http://www.indymedia.org/en/static/palestine
See:"Jewish Gangsters Raped, Killed Children, and Film, As Young As
Two:
http://tinyurl.com/babySnuff
Or:
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.religion.islam/2005-11/msg01495.html
The Babylon TALMUD Law (Jew Bible):
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6657600254881054584&hl=en#
and
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/facts1.htm
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALCSSLPsiWs
and
The Truth About the Khazar Ashcanazi: http://tinyurl.com/697m21
Yom Kippur, The "Kol Nidre": (
“All personal vows we are likely to make, all personal oaths and
pledges we are likely to take between this Yom Kippur and the next
Yom Kippur, we publicly renounce. Let them all be relinquished and
abandoned, null and void, neither firm nor established. Let our
personal vows, pledges and oaths be considered neither vows nor
pledges nor oaths: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur#
http://resistance.jeeran.com/judaism/race/khazars.html
No Such Thing As "Jew": http://tinyurl.com/88y27
and
http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=sp-bishopspong&msg=3882.13
Or
http://tinyurl.com/jewWord
and
http://resistance.jeeran.com/judaism/race/khazars.html
Or
http://tinyurl.com/DOOM-IS-HERE
See Jew Murder USA Military Boys(USS LIBERTY): http://www.gtr5.com/
OH YEAH! The United States Of America is in fact a Christian Nation
or Israel not Jew Nation:
+ + + http://www.tinyurl.com/lbgov
+ + +
MustReads:
http://www.jewwatch.com/
and
http://judicial-inc.org
Daily News:
http://english.pravda.ru/
and
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/
Proof Christians are the "chosen": Rev. 17:14 http://tinyurl.com/theChosenPeople
Proof "Jew" are the "chosen" of Satan: John 8:44 http://tinyurl.com/theJew
Now that Jew have their own Nation, Jew Must Pay Up For Death of Our
Saviour as per agreement found in Math. 27:25 25 http://tinyurl.com/jewOweUSA
Members of the Illuminati (One World Government (“New World Order”)
(actually Communism(slavery)):
http://www.illuminati-news.com/moriah.htm#7
1. Astor
2. Bundy
3. Collins
4. DuPont
5. Freeman
6. Kennedy
7. Li (Chinese)
8. Onassis
9. Rockefeller
10. Rothschild
11. Russell
12. van Duyn
13. Merovingian (European Royal Families)
The following families are also interconnected with those above:
1. Reynolds
2. Disney
3. Krupp
4. McDonald
5. Plus others: oBOMBo
---------------------------------------- -----
Another finding I need to mention: On a forum somewhere on the
Internet there was a discussion about numerous motels (right outside
of the Gulf states) being booked (full-up) with/for a future date. Now
if you will, please do a short, Google study of Palestine from 1948
until today, you maywill possibly see what limey Rothschild has in
store for Florida populace and the entire Gulf area. Do I hear
“Exodus”? Right now everyone in the Gulf area must get their property-
ownership papers, and paid, tax receipts copied (many many copies) and
sent out of the Gulf states to many, different friends and relatives
to place in safe places. Because as you can see, the Palestinians
never got back home, and neither will you if youarenot prepared.
Thereare many other exoduses around the world . . . Maybe Google and
see what you get on that.
Why 9/11?
"This attack on Iraq is part of a new crusade to prepare the region,
after
dividing it, for the creation of a Greater Israel. This means the
whole region
will be ruled by Jews."
--- bin Laden
You Have Been Bought:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlOUXWQP-KM&NR=1&feature=fvwp
By the Rothschild:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlOUXWQP-KM&feature=related
Al Nakba
Gaza is like excrement. it's only benefit would be derived from its
removal..
President Soetoro
Maybe the next time you paleoidiots are running around on the streets
in gaza in one giant mob yelling and screaming "death to Israel".....
BOOM.... Israel will drop a fuel fusion bomb on your worthless fucking
asses and vaporize a couple hundred thousand of you!
President Soetoro
lie number one. Here's some pictures of how "horrible" life is in gaza
A nice new shopping mall opened today in Gaza: Will the media report
on it?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/32ejzxa
How moderate Muslims are treated
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ye76ugo
Fancy restaurants and Olympic-size swim pools: what the media won’t
report about Gaza
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2cj35gv
What other lies do you have?
John Fisher
<osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 8:49 am, snakehawk <snakeh...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 1, 5:09 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 1, 6:05 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 30, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > > > > The NYT reported today that Gaza attacked Israel. "JERUSALEM — A
> > > > > Katyusha-type rocket fired by militants from Gaza struck the Israeli
> > > > > coastal city of Ashkelon on Friday, damaging buildings and causing
> > > > > panic after more than a year of relative calm."
>
> > > > > In March 2010, a rocket from Gaza killed a farm worker, as reported by
> > > > > the NYT on 3/18/2010.
>
> > > WHAT DID/HAS the Criminal State of Israel done to evoke responses
> > > which they hope to used to support its ill founded claims???
>
> > Reporting that some of the desperate people trapped in the huge
> > concentration camp called Gaza struck back at Israel is like
> > criticizing kidnap victims for trying to hurt their kidnappers.
> > Imagine your home surrounded a vicious gang who who refused to allow
> > you to get medicine for your children. Would you think it would be
> > unfair for you to take an occasional shot at them?
>
> lie number one. Here's some pictures of how "horrible" life is in gaza
>
> A nice new shopping mall opened today in Gaza: Will the media report
>
> How moderate Muslims are treatedhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/ye76ugo
>
> Fancy restaurants and Olympic-size swim pools: what the media won’t
>
> What other lies do you have?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
As the Criminal State of Israel Israel continues to find EXCUSES to
bomb Gaza, and demean its residents, it cannot hide the facts in spite
of the pretty pictures it would like to paint.
"Following the Six-Day War, Israel closed down Gaza's port and
consequently, the city lost its fishing income.[citation needed] There
were previous Palestinian and international attempts to construct a
major port in Gaza for the benefit of the planned State of Palestine,
but objections from Israel prevented such attempts.[citation needed]
The major agricultural products are strawberries, citrus, dates,
olives, flowers, and various vegetables. Pollution and massive
population pressure on water have reduced the productive capacity of
the surrounding farms, however.[41]
Small-scale industries in the city include the production of plastics,
construction materials, textiles, furniture, pottery, tiles,
copperware, and carpets. Following the Oslo Accords, thousands of
residents were employed in the various government ministries and
security services, while others were employed by the UNRWA and other
international organizations that support development of the city.[41]
Gaza contains some minor industries, including textiles and food
processing. A variety of wares are sold in Gaza's street bazaars,
including carpets, pottery, wicker furniture, and cotton clothing; the
modern Gaza Mall opened in July of 2010.[87][88]
There are six hotels in Gaza: Palestine, Adam, al-Amal, al-Quds,
Cliff, and Marna House. All, except the Palestine Hotel, are located
along the coast. The United Nations (UN) has a beach club on the same
street. Gaza is not a frequent destination for tourists, and most
foreigners who stay in hotels are journalists, aid workers, UN and Red
Cross personnel. Al-Quds Hotel is regarded as the most up-market hotel
in the city, and is the most recently built.[89]
Many Gazans worked in the Israeli service industry when the border was
open, but part of Israel's 2005 disengagement stipulated that Gazans
will no longer be able to work in Israel and few Gazans are presently
allowed to enter Israel.[citation needed] Gaza has serious
deficiencies in housing, educational facilities, health facilities,
infrastructure, and an inadequate sewage system, all of which have
contributed to serious hygiene and public health problems.[90]
According to a recent report by OXFAM, unemployment in Gaza is close
to 40% and is set to rise to 50%. The private sector which generates
53% of all jobs in Gaza has been devastated, businesses have been
bankrupted and 75,000 out of 110,000 workers are now without a jobs.
In 2008, 95% of Gaza's industrial operations were suspended due to
lack of access inputs for production and the inability to export what
is produced. In June 2005, there were 3,900 factories in Gaza
employing 35,000 people, but by December 2007, there were just 195
remaining, employing only 1,700 people. The construction industry was
paralyzed with tens of thousands of laborers out of work. The
agriculture sector has also been damaged severely and nearly 40,000
workers who depend on cash crops now have no income.[90]
Gaza's economic conditions have been stagnant in the long-term and
most development indicators are in decline. Food prices have risen
during the blockade, with wheat flour going up 34%, rice up 21%, and
baby powder up 30%. The number of Gazans who live in absolute poverty
has increased sharply, with 80% relying on humanitarian aid in 2008
compared to 63% in 2006. In 2007, households spent an average of 62%
of their total income on food, compared to 37% in 2004. In less than a
decade, the number of families depending on UNRWA food aid has
increased tenfold.[90]"
Wikipedia
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100801/OPINION/707319952/1080/subscribe
BOYCOTT ISRAEL, THE SABRE RATTLING CRIMINALS WHO ARE HELL BENT ON
STARTING A WAR WITH IRAN AND THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!
President Soetoro
>
> BOYCOTT ISRAEL, THE SABRE RATTLING CRIMINALS WHO ARE HELL BENT ON
> STARTING A WAR WITH IRAN AND THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!
Here's one link where 1,000's of you paleoidiots were employed before
Israel fulfilled it's part of the agreement... I'm wondering when you
idiots will fulfill your part!?!
Of course this is also how you stupid fucks were fed as well.
Exodus From Gaza
The forcible evacuation of August 2005
http://tinyurl.com/lb6gsl
Israel Transfers Gush Katif Hothouses to Palestinians
http://tinyurl.com/289z85w
Notice the widespread disregard for Jewish Holy structures... like you
care anyway
John Fisher
>
> Israel Transfers Gush Katif Hothouses to Palestinianshttp://tinyurl.com/289z85w
>
> Notice the widespread disregard for Jewish Holy structures... like you
>
> - Show quoted text -
At the most, as I understand it, only 60 Jewish families (at the most)
ever lived in Gaza and most of them left of their own accord. As for
the hothouses, they were a gift of wealthy American Jews (NOT
ISRAEL). It is my understanding, also, that Israel made sure that
facilites to manage/maintain these houses (water) was not available to
make them of any value.
You have no idea about what I think about the holy structures of any
religion!!! I have respect for the beliefs of others as long as they
do not interfere with the rights/beliefs of the rest of humanity.
Those opinions exclude no cult/religion. Although I seek the BOYCOTT
OF THE CRIMINAL STATE OF ISRAEL, I am prejudiced towards NONE!!!=:)
SHALOM!!!!-:) SALAAM!!!-:)
John Fisher
hanco, I have considered the topic, based on something which happened
in March. Current events would have the subject "Israel Attacks Gaza
- AGAIN!!
August 1, 2010.
Why is it you expect no retaliation by a faction of a small group as
compared to attacks by the BULLY CRIMINAL STATE OF ISRAEL which HAVE
resulted in untold murders??? In any society, and in spite of
efforts by the peacemakers, there will always be individuals, or
groups, who want to get even for the murders of their families or
loved ones.
John Fisher
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 1, 5:09 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 1, 6:05 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 30, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > > > > The NYT reported today that Gaza attacked Israel. "JERUSALEM — A
> > > > > Katyusha-type rocket fired by militants from Gaza struck the Israeli
> > > > > coastal city of Ashkelon on Friday, damaging buildings and causing
> > > > > panic after more than a year of relative calm."
>
> > > > > In March 2010, a rocket from Gaza killed a farm worker, as reported by
> > > > > the NYT on 3/18/2010.
>
> > > WHAT DID/HAS the Criminal State of Israel done to evoke responses
> > > which they hope to used to support its ill founded claims???
>
> > Reporting that some of the desperate people trapped in the huge
> > concentration camp called Gaza struck back at Israel is like
> > criticizing kidnap victims for trying to hurt their kidnappers.
> > Imagine your home surrounded a vicious gang who who refused to allow
> > you to get medicine for your children. Would you think it would be
> > unfair for you to take an occasional shot at them?
>
> lie number one. Here's some pictures of how "horrible" life is in gaza
>
> A nice new shopping mall opened today in Gaza: Will the media report
>
> How moderate Muslims are treatedhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/ye76ugo
>
> Fancy restaurants and Olympic-size swim pools: what the media won’t
>
> What other lies do you have?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
CRIMINAL STATE OF ISRAEL CONTINUES TO MURDER INNOCENT VICTIMS:
http://windowintopalestine.blogspot.com/2010/08/two-dead-and-four-children-injured-in.html
jamilah
jamilah
Very Silly daily Israeli attacks on innocent people in Gaza, WHY TO
STOP THE RESPONSE?!!!
jamilah
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A series of brutal crimes Zionism,Zionist Israel dodge the world this
news
While they are vampires without a doubt.
President Soetoro
Fascist paleoidiots continue to bomb innocent Israeli woman and
children, Fascist paleoidiots continue to tell innocent Israeli woman
and children that they will kill every last one of you!
Zev
> On Aug 2, 7:09 am, President Soetoro
> <osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 2, 5:59 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 2, 6:01 am, President Soetoro
> > > <osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Aug 1, 8:49 am, snakehawk <snakeh...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 1, 5:09 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Aug 1, 6:05 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Jul 30, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> > > > > Reporting that some of the desperate people trapped in the huge
> > > > > concentration camp called Gaza struck back at Israel is like
> > > > > criticizing kidnap victims for trying to hurt their kidnappers.
> > > > > Imagine your home surrounded a vicious gang who who refused to allow
> > > > > you to get medicine for your children. Would you think it would be
> > > > > unfair for you to take an occasional shot at them?
>
> > > > lie number one. Here's some pictures of how "horrible" life is in gaza
>
> > > > A nice new shopping mall opened today in Gaza: Will the media report
> > > > on it?http://preview.tinyurl.com/32ejzxa
>
> > > > How moderate Muslims are treatedhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/ye76ugo
>
> > > > Fancy restaurants and Olympic-size swim pools: what the media won’t
> > > > report about Gazahttp://preview.tinyurl.com/2cj35gv
>
> > > > What other lies do you have?- Hide quoted text -
> > > As the Criminal State of Israel Israel continues to find EXCUSES to
> At the most, as I understand it, only 60 Jewish families (at the most)
> ever lived in Gaza and most of them left of their own accord. As for
> the hothouses, they were a gift of wealthy American Jews (NOT
> ISRAEL). It is my understanding, also, that Israel made sure that
> facilites to manage/maintain these houses (water) was not available to
> make them of any value.
You don't understand it.
John Fisher
>
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When??? Where??? Why???
John Fisher
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Then, ENLIGHTEN ME, PLEASE!!!
President Soetoro
You lie.... at one point there were 7,000 Jews living in gaza. Of
course you can't live in peace with anyone as evidenced by the links I
have already provided showing the true nature of your hatred and
propensity towards violence for anything non muslim.
Israeli settlements in gaza
http://tinyurl.com/2fxdho3
I found this next item scary, and at the same time very funny.
40 Al-Qaeda terrorists killed by their own Black Plague biological
weapon
http://tinyurl.com/2vorx5h
President Soetoro
Name me one Church or Synagog that operates in gaza?
John Fisher
>
> I found this next item scary, and at the same time very funny.
>
> 40 Al-Qaeda terrorists killed by their own Black Plague biological
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not so funny!!! It wouldn't surprise me if it were planted by the
Criminal State of Israel!!! They're guilty of so many false flag
operationsk don't ya know!!!
As for my expressions regarding violence, where have you EVER found
that I've a propensity towards violence for anything non-Muslim????
Where have you EVER found, in my thousands of contributions to these
groups, any suggestion that I believed in violence by any party?????
Are you given to LIES or do you say the first thing that comes to mind
whether or not it is true???
John Fisher
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There are many churches in Gaza, in spite of the fact that Zionists
destroyed many of them - http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=3&id=10613
The Hurva synagogue was destroyed in the 1948 war by the Jordanian
army.
Before 1948, synagogues were used by Zionist underground forces for
illicit activities including hording weapons.* But why is there a
furor over building it again? First we must recognize that
International law is rather clear that East Jerusalem is illegally
occupied by Israel and per the Geneva conventions, and buildings or
activities in the occupied areas are subject to those conventions.
Any transfer of population to the occupied areas including
infrastructure for these individuals is considered proscribed
settlement activity contrary to both the letter and the spirit of the
law.
Second, Israel News reported that: "According to a centuries-old
rabbinical prophecy that appears to be coming true, on March 16, 2010,
Israel will begin construction of the Third Temple in Jerusalem.
During the 18th century, the Vilna Gaon, a respected rabbinical
authority, prophesied that the Hurva Synagogue in Jerusalem, which was
built during his day, would be destroyed and rebuilt twice, and that
when the Hurva was completed for the third time, construction on the
Third Temple would begin"
<http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=20063>
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=20063 Many
Israelis believe this and there is a proliferation of designs,
ceremonies and other events to launch this coming age of building a
third temple. There are Muslim religious sites there: the first Qibla
or direction of prayer for Islam and the third holiest site are the
Haram Al-Sharif on this site.
There are Israeli digs underneath that threaten the site already and
this only added fuel to the fire.
Third, Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, and much of humanity, wonder why
is it that such a synagogue is reconstructed but none of 1200 mosques
and nearly 200 churches destroyed by Israel over the past 6 decades
not allowed to be reconstructed? For me personally and for most
Palestinains, we know the history shows Jews, Christians, and Muslims
living peacefully together for 1400 years under Islamic rule (with
very few exceptions). We know that it is possible to simply have a
Jewish area, a Christian area, a Muslim area or even mixed areas. We
know it is possible even to intermarry, have friendships, etc. But
Zionism had a different idea and it did not revolve on coexisting but
on ethnic cleansing and destruction of others. How else can we
explain the destruction of 530 villages and towns? How can we explain
the rapid growth of colonial settlements on Palestinian land or even
inside Palestinian homes? There is surely enough space here for all.
Why are Palestinians denied the right to go to school just this week
(see story and picture where they even held school at the checkpoint,
<http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=269548>
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=269548). Why not
simply live and let live. The density of population inside the Green
line is now nearly 1/8th that of areas of the West Bank and Gaza that
are designated reservations/ghettos for the native Palestinians. If
Jews want to live in the old Jewish quarter of East Jerusalem and
rebuild the synagogue there, why not allow the Palestinians to return
to the old neighborhoods in West Jerusalem and rebuild the many
churches and mosques there?
mirjam
Mr John Fisher ,
as you can see there are many many churches in Israel ,, name one that
was `destroyed in the last 60 years ,All i see are more and more New
churches , more renewal and reconstruction of ancient buildings ,,
Before the year 2000 , expecting many pilgrims, the whole country
became one big renewal for every church ,,,
------------------
There is no such thing as `Rabbinical prophecy`. Rabbies are not
prophets .
mirjam
John Fisher
> http://www.google.co.il/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US...
>
> Mr John Fisher ,
> as you can see there are many many churches in Israel ,, name one that
> was `destroyed in the last 60 years ,All i see are more and more New
> churches , more renewal and reconstruction of ancient buildings ,,
> Before the year 2000 , expecting many pilgrims, the whole country
> became one big renewal for every church ,,,
>
> ------------------
> There is no such thing as `Rabbinical prophecy`. Rabbies are not
> prophets .
>
> mirjam
Mirjam, evidently, you misinterpret the response!!! It had to do with
churches in Gaza!!!
Zev
Life in Israel isn't as dangerous as "Soetoro" would have us believe,
but your questions make the impression that you don't like BS,
which is odd, because you post so much of it yourself.
NefeshBarYochai
> http://www.google.co.il/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US...
>
> as you can see there are many many churches in Israel ,, name one that
> was `destroyed in the last 60 years ,All i see are more and more New
> churches , more renewal and reconstruction of ancient buildings ,,
> Before the year 2000 , expecting many pilgrims, the whole country
> became one big renewal for every church ,,,
>
> ------------------
> There is no such thing as `Rabbinical prophecy`. Rabbies are not
> prophets .
>
> mirjam
Oh, you are an expert on Prophets now are you? Moses lived as a Rabbi
and a Prophet. In fact, all Jews agree that Moses was the greatest,
the Chief Rabbi Prophet with the most authority of all. HaShem
himself is a Rabbi and a Prophet. The word Rav is used as a teacher.
Rabbi is simply Rav prepared to be used in the smechot.
NefeshBarYochai
>
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Zev I read in the Denver Post today where Bibi is kicking the children
and families of the goyim workers out of Israel. According to the
Denver Post there is about 1/3 million goyim-non-Jewish workers in
Israel not including the Palestinians. Bibi said, He wants to protect
the Jewish character.” I love Bibi.
Zev
John, can you name one church *in Gaza*
that was destroyed in the last 60 years?
Can you name one Christian institution which
was established in the last 5 years?
Do you call Gazans "criminals" because they kill Christians?
Did you read the article you linked to before posting it?
Zev
Do you know to whom prophecy is given,
since the destruction?
Zev
He's talking about a few hundred,
and it's not going to happen tomorrow.
And don't gloat over it.
Many of those children grew up in Israel,
in many ways, they're more Israeli than the Israelis.
mirjam
You are mixing up two meanings of a word , Moshe Rabenu , is called
thus meaning Moshe Our teacher , not our rabbi as it is meant today ,
mirjam
John Fisher
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'tis all in the mind of the beholder!!!-:) Some are deranged!!! eh???
John Fisher
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Yes, here is an example Israeli church destruction in Gaza!!
http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2009/s09010002.htm
and church property:
http://www.churchinwales.org.uk/press/display_press_release.php?prid=4719
There are criminals in every element of every society!! The Criminal
State of Israel is far more guilty than any of the Gazans it is
victimizing!!! (mnsvho)
John Fisher
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And you wonder at the world's view that Israel TRULY IS A CRIMINAL
STATE??? Are you saying that the "Jewish Character" is one which
should now annihilate Christians as well as Muslims??? Is that what
spurs your love of Bibi???
Zev
Some blogger writes about damage to a church
during the "Cast Lead" conflict.
It may have been justifiably targeted,
or it may have been hit by mistake,
by either side.
Was he there?
> and church property:
>
> http://www.churchinwales.org.uk/press/display_press_release.php?prid=...
This is a clinic, albeit run by a church in Wales.
Calling it "church property" makes the wrong impression.
The damage was made during the "Cast Lead" conflict
and may have been justifiably targeted,
or it may have been hit by mistake,
by either side.
The article was written by that church to encourage contributions.
John, if this is the best you have, forget it!
And, BTW, can you answer my other questions?
mirjam
And don`t forget Zeev that he claimed that 200 were destroyed. !!!!
when in fact he could only find one that was Hit during a war .......
mirjam
President Soetoro
>
> read more »
You avoided my question, tell me where there are churches and
synagogues operating in gaza. There are none because of your religious
intolerance.
President Soetoro
Nor is life in gaza as bad as these people would like you to believe.
They make it sound like everyone is living in abject poverty, but as
you can see from the links I have posted, their claims are greatly
exaggerated.
In reading that article, there are 4 churches in gaza and 3,000
Christians. They are segregated and forced to live in a small section
parceled to them by the PA.
Palestine’s Christians Continue to Suffer Persecution
http://tinyurl.com/29cr4z
Persecution news of Christians
http://tinyurl.com/25b4p5m
Christian Persecution in Gaza
http://tinyurl.com/2dz8sen
Persecuting Christians in Gaza
http://tinyurl.com/27samar
So you see, Fisher yells and screams about the rights of the
palestinians in gaza but plays lip service at protecting other non
muslims in gaza. His solution is lock them away in a small prison camp.
President Soetoro
Don't forget the links I posted where the muslims went ape shit
bananas over the chance to destroy every synagogue in gaza after the
Israelis withdrew in 2005.
President Soetoro
>
> > I found this next item scary, and at the same time very funny.
>
> > 40 Al-Qaeda terrorists killed by their own Black Plague biological
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Not so funny!!! It wouldn't surprise me if it were planted by the
> Criminal State of Israel!!! They're guilty of so many false flag
> operationsk don't ya know!!!
>
> As for my expressions regarding violence, where have you EVER found
> that I've a propensity towards violence for anything non-Muslim????
> Where have you EVER found, in my thousands of contributions to these
> groups, any suggestion that I believed in violence by any party?????
> Are you given to LIES or do you say the first thing that comes to mind
> whether or not it is true???
My next question is what was the iranian nuclear physicist doing
running around America for the last 1-1/2 years. Did O[BEEP]a give
them a nuke, and where do they plan on detonating it? The USA? Israel?
Did they plant one in the US? How did he get into the US? Why did they
just let me go? Where was he?
President Soetoro
>
> There are criminals in every element of every society!! The Criminal
> State of Israel is far more guilty than any of the Gazans it is
> victimizing!!! (mnsvho)
Interesting quote from someone (Christian in gaza) affected by the
accidental bombing.....
“If I choose to live among the enemies of freedom,” added another, “I
shouldn’t be surprised that I might be destroyed when the friends of
freedom respond to threats.”
Palestinian Christians stand ‘between two fires’
http://tinyurl.com/2epus34
Zev
Probably the best that can be hoped for is that he'll be ashamed of
himself
when he grows up and realises that he's been someone's "useful idiot".
John Fisher
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If I haven;t responded to ANY of your questionx
John Fisher
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It is not my intention to not respond to ALL of your questions, zev.
If you are not satisfied, I'd expect it has to do with your personal
prejudices!!!
"Israel cannot handle its past. Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu decided
this week to extend from 50 to 70 years the time state archives remain
classified. Israel realizes that it has too much to hide.
Haaretz reported this week (in its Hebrew edition only), that the
first documents will be released to the public only in 2018 (1948+70).
Many of the documents that are stored in the archive are relevant to
the history of the first 20 years of the Jewish state: the mass
expulsion of the Palestinian people, the massacres in Deir Yassin,
Tantura and many others, the 1956 Suez conflict, the Israeli nuclear
project and so on. Disclosing such documents may bring to light some
facts that could “shatter myths and cause embarrassment to many
entities and individuals” said the Israeli paper. I guess that
president Shimon Peres is one of those ‘many individuals’.
In my latest work I elaborated on the concerning fact that history is
foreign to the Jewish religion, ideology and politics. Israeli and
Jewish history are set as phantasmic tales. Facts and historical
documents are either pushed aside, shoved under the carpet, eliminated
or simply destroyed. As we all know, truth seeking is interpreted by
Israelis and Zionist as anti Semitism or even holocaust denial.
As it seems, 50 years were not enough for Israel to tackle its
original sin. The reason is simple, the crimes that are entangled with
the foundation of the Jewish state have never been resolved. Millions
of Palestinian refugees are still awaiting to return to their land.
Israel is still driven by racist and supremacist laws. The Jewish
state has never matured from its lethal philosophy of constant
physical intimidation. Consequently, the IDF, the Mossad and the
security services mounted pressure on the government to extend the
classification status of these 50 year old documents. And no surprise,
Netanyahu has provided the required extension.
Haaretz pointed out that it is slightly peculiar that PM Netanyahu,
the son of Benzion Netanyahu, a Zionist historian, gave his hand to a
crude attempt to conceal historical research and truth seeking. I
read Benzion Netanyahu, I actually learned a lot from him. Benzion
wasn’t exactly an ordinary historian, he was a Zionist historian (as
opposed to a historian of Zionism). He was there to give the Jewish
national aspiration a contextual pseudo academic meaning. PM
Netanyahu's decision to hide facts for another 20 years is actually in
line with his father’s philosophy.
A disclosure of the truth regarding Israel's early days would reveal
that the Jewish state was a murderous lethal attempt from its very
beginning. As much as Zionist and Israeli leaders vowed publicly to
make Jews ‘people like all other people’, behind closed doors they
commanded their army and secret services to kill like their imaginary
Biblical forefathers.
I would argue that from a historical perspective, Israel can keep
sitting on its secret files as long as it wants. We do not really need
the Israeli archive in order to examine the true murderous meaning of
the Jewish state and the Jewish national project. However, the fact
that Israel insists on hiding its past, means that there is a little
bit of shame and consciousness left in this tribal collective. This is
actually a positive sign." -
Gilad Atzmon quoted
John Fisher
Isn't that what Israel wanted????
Of course, as the New York Times reported today, this was a set up
orchestrated by the Israeli government. Originally the synagogues were
to be bulldozed with the rest of the illegal settlements constructed
by Israeli settlers during their withdrawal from the 38-year
occupation of Palestinian land. However, prominent rabbis argued that
Jews can't destroy synagogues, and Ariel Sharon "was left with two bad
choices: tearing them down, or leaving them standing with the
knowledge that they might be desecrated."
Yeah, right. More likely Sharon rejoiced at the opportunity. He knew
that the Palestinian Authority would not act to prevent the
destruction. As a consequence, pictures and headlines would be flashed
around the world showing Palestinian Muslims destroying synagogues.
Once again the familiar narrative would be reinforced: Palestinian
Muslims are barbarians, and Israeli Jews are justified in their brutal
methods, otherwise civilization would fall.
John Fisher
<osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 2, 7:11 pm, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 2, 4:54 pm, President Soetoro
> > > Israeli settlements in gazahttp://tinyurl.com/2fxdho3
>
> > > I found this next item scary, and at the same time very funny.
>
> > > 40 Al-Qaeda terrorists killed by their own Black Plague biological
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Not so funny!!! It wouldn't surprise me if it were planted by the
> > Criminal State of Israel!!! They're guilty of so many false flag
> > operationsk don't ya know!!!
>
> > As for my expressions regarding violence, where have you EVER found
> > that I've a propensity towards violence for anything non-Muslim????
> > Where have you EVER found, in my thousands of contributions to these
> > groups, any suggestion that I believed in violence by any party?????
> > Are you given to LIES or do you say the first thing that comes to mind
> > whether or not it is true???
>
> My next question is what was the iranian nuclear physicist doing
> running around America for the last 1-1/2 years. Did O[BEEP]a give
> them a nuke, and where do they plan on detonating it? The USA? Israel?
> Did they plant one in the US? How did he get into the US? Why did they
>
> - Show quoted text -
How do so manhy Israeli spies get to operate in the US???? Speculate
all you like. Perhaps Israel did have something to do with it. It's
false flag operations are unending!!!
President Soetoro
> > bananas over the chance to destroy every synagogue in gaza after the
> > Israelis withdrew in 2005.
>
> Isn't that what Israel wanted????
>
Really? So just the presence of the synagogues was enough to send the
"peaceful" citizens of gaza into a crazed frenzy?
How do you justify destroying the method to feed you with the
hydroponic plants left by the Israelis?
You said one thing I can agree with you on...
"Palestinian Muslims are barbarians"
How do you justify the attacks and murders of Christians in gaza city?
John Fisher
"Murder" is against the commandments!!! I can find no justification
for it in any case!!! Self defense is another thing unless one is of
a religion which wouldn't kill a fly!!! As a matter of conscience, I
think the Criminal State of Israel has none!!! If the quote
"Palestinian Muslims are barbarians" is attributed to me, it is a
LIE!!!! Barbarians come in all flavors. No religion/cult is free of
them!!!!
John Fisher
>
> So you see, Fisher yells and screams about the rights of the
> palestinians in gaza but plays lip service at protecting other non
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Christians are persecuted in Israel:
http://realchristianity.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/christian-persecution-in-israel/
Are they not????
John Fisher
>
> Persecution news of Christianshttp://tinyurl.com/25b4p5m
>
> Christian Persecution in Gazahttp://tinyurl.com/2dz8sen
>
>
> So you see, Fisher yells and screams about the rights of the
> palestinians in gaza but plays lip service at protecting other non
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Crimes against Christianity
THE PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS IN ISRAEL
Government and Religious authorities carry on a constant campaign of
persecution against
parents who send their children to Christian schools. This is an
example of this campaign:
The Grand Rabbinate supported this campaign by an appeal in which it
denounced the
misdeeds of Christian Mission. According to Hatsofe newspaper
December 2, 1953 the
Grand rabbinate appeal states: “The Christian Missions open under the
feet of Jewish
children the precipice of assimilation and of change of religion.
Those who by attending
these schools let themselves be drawn change their religion become the
enemies of our
national existence. We want this appeal to reach all in Israel. We
proclaim a special week
for action and for information. We launch an appeal in to collect the
necessary funds for the
realization of this action.”
The newspaper Hatsofe supported the appeal by the Grand Rabbinate with
an
inflammatory racist
.
“This action must be carried out with all possible vigor until the
impurity is destroyed by fire from the face of the earth.”
Large placards were displayed in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and other cities
stating: “Do you
know that 2,000 children receive Christian education in Israel? Do you
know that 400
preachers and Christian sent by 48 Christian missionary institutions
were recruited for the
new immigrants? Mr. Amos Eylon published an article in Ha’aretz on
March 14, 1954 in which he stated:
“Government employees as well as those working in municipalities who
send their children to Christian schools were obliged under threat of
being fired to transfer their children to Jewish schools.”
A section was established in the Ministry of Religious Affairs for the
object of fighting
Christian missions. This section is sending spies into churches,
monasteries, and
Christian schools to detect who visit these Christian establishments
and to take the names
of all those who associate with , or send their children to Christian
schools.
John Fisher
>
> Persecution news of Christianshttp://tinyurl.com/25b4p5m
>
> Christian Persecution in Gazahttp://tinyurl.com/2dz8sen
>
>
> So you see, Fisher yells and screams about the rights of the
> palestinians in gaza but plays lip service at protecting other non
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Israeli Massacres
The Massacre of the USS Liberty
Following are details on the massacre recounted by the distinguished
former U.S.
Congressman from Illinois, Paul Findley:
The day of the attack began in routine fashion, with the ship first
proceeding slowly in an
easterly direction in the eastern Mediterranean, later following the
contour of the
coastline westerly about fifteen miles off the Sinai Peninsula.
On the mainland, Israeli forces were winning smashing victories in the
third Arab-Israeli
war in nineteen years. Israeli Chief of Staff Yitzhak Rabin,
announcing that the Israelis
had taken the entire Sinai and broken the blockade on the Strait of
Tiran declared: “The
Egyptians are defeated.” On the eastern front the Israelis had
overcome Jordanian
forces and captured most of the West Bank.
At 6 a.m. an airplane, identified by the Liberty crew as an Israeli
Noratlas, circled the ship
slowly and departed. This procedure was repeated periodically over an
eight-hour period.
At 9.a.m a jet appeared at a distance, then left. At 10 a.m. two
rocket-armed jets circled
the ship three times. They were close enough for their pilots to be
observed through
binoculars. The planes were unmarked. An hour later the Israeli
Noratlas returned, flying
not more than 200 feet directly above the Liberty, and clearly marked
with the Star of
David. The ship’s crewmembers and the pilot waved at each other. This
plane returned
every few minutes until 1 p.m. By then, the ship had changed course
and was proceeding
lmost due west.
At 2.00 p.m. all hell broke loose. Three Mirage fighter planes headed
straight for the
Liberty, their rockets taking out the forward machine guns and
wrecking the ship’s
antennae. The mirages were joined by Mystere fighters, which dropped
napalm o the
bridge and deck and repeatedly strafed the ship. The attack continued
for over 20
minutes. In all, the ship sustained 821 holes in her sides and decks.
Of these, more than
100 were rocket size.
As the aircraft departed, three torpedo boats took over the attack,
firing five torpedoes,
one of which tore a 40-foot hole in the hull, killing 25 sailors. The
ship was in flames,
dead in the water, listing precariously, and taking water. The crew
was ordered to prepare
to abandon ship. As life rafts were lowered into the water, the
torpedo boats moved
closer and shot them to pieces. One plane concentrated machine-gun
fire on rafts still on
deck as crewmembers there tried to extinguish the napalm fire. Petty
Officer Charles
Rowley declares, “They didn’t want anymore to live.”
President Soetoro
Like the crusades? That was a self defense action on the part of
Christians against the muslims. So maybe, we ought to continue it a
drive islam back to where it started, because everything else was
nothing more than a land grab on the part of islam.
John Fisher
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I'll settle for the Criminal State of Israel owning up to its
atrocities and start to bargain, in good faith, for a solution to the
problems it has created thru the years. Sadly, it appears to me that
the upcoming meetings, for that purpose, is loaded with a Catch 22 and
no amount of negotiations will be fruitful. Israel is hell bent on
conflict!!! It takes two to tango!! IMNSVHO, Israel will never dance
with a partner. It prefers to dance with itself, holding hostage, not
only the people in the Middle East, but the people in the US and
throughout the world. Hopefully, the world will somehow come together
to mandate a settlement!!!
President Soetoro
I thought that Israel had already lived up to it's end of the bargain,
It pulled out of gaza 5 years ago. You idiots seem to think that for
some reason that it's ok to lob missiles into Israel and that for some
reason when Israel responds, that it is evil.
John Fisher
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You're twisting it around, Soetero!!! Enslaving the people of Gaza is
far from a pull out!!! Israel, doesn't bargain!!! Israel prefers to
hold hostage those whom it, often, imagines present a threat!!
It seeks conflict and NEVER stops its threat regardless of the face it
tries to present. (mnsvho)
President Soetoro
So you are saying that you would rather have the Israelis ensuring
that ALL the people in gaza are safe and fed again by occupying it
again?
BTW, name me one muslim country on the planet where people are
flocking to it to get away from the "evils" of the West?
Zev
You made a claim, you tried to back it up with irrelevant links.
Now you say you don't intend to respond to my questions.
John, I'm disappointed, but not surprised.
The Usenet is full of trolls like you,.
<snipped>
jamilah
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Thank you for providing us these the facts
Zev
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>
> 'tis all in the mind of the beholder!!!-:) Some are deranged!!! eh???
May be true for you.
For most of us, the normal ones, if it smells like it, and looks like
it,
we don't taste it to know what it is.
John Fisher
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You're full of it, Zev!!!!=:) You SAY I made a claim but don't lend
reference to it!!! Israel is not innocent when it comes to its
destruction of property belonging to Muslims!!! This includes Mosques
and churches! You asked for me to name at least ONE church:
John, can you name one church *in Gaza*
> > > > > that was destroyed in the last 60 years?
> > > > > Can you name one Christian institution which
> > > > > was established in the last 5 years?
> > > > > Do you call Gazans "criminals" because they kill Christians?
> > > > > Did you read the article you linked to before posting it?-
I DID JUST THAT: http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2009/s09010002.htm
Now, what's your problem????
John Fisher
> http://www.google.co.il/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US...
>
> Mr John Fisher ,
> as you can see there are many many churches in Israel ,, name one that
> was `destroyed in the last 60 years ,All i see are more and more New
> churches , more renewal and reconstruction of ancient buildings ,,
> Before the year 2000 , expecting many pilgrims, the whole country
> became one big renewal for every church ,,,
>
> ------------------
> There is no such thing as `Rabbinical prophecy`. Rabbies are not
> prophets .
>
> mirjam
Mirjam, if you have a problem in understanding English, I'd suggest
you not respond to questions which were not a part of the topic. The
question had to do with the destruction of churches by the CRIMINAL
STATE OF ISRAEL in GAZA!!! I responded to that question:
http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2009/s09010002.htm
The question had nothing to do with the destruction of churches in
Israel!!!
John Fisher
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You're welcome, my friend!!-:) Thanks for taking a stand!!!-:)
John Fisher
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Your ham is kosher????
President Soetoro
Nice little cretin you are. I had ham for breakfast.... tastes
GREAT!!!
How about spreading pigs blood all over yourself, putting on something
that looks like one of those self detonation packs you can buy in any
corner store in gaza city, then charging an Israeli checkpoint. Make
sure that someone videos the event and posts it on youtube!
John Fisher
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WOW!!! A non Zionist who supports its treachery with suggestions of
his/her own personal addiction to violence!!!
NefeshBarYochai
> On Aug 3, 8:53 am, NefeshBarYochai <lbitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
>
> > On Aug 2, 9:27 pm, mirjam <mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.google.co.il/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US...
>
> > > Mr John Fisher ,
> > > as you can see there are many many churches in Israel ,, name one that
> > > was `destroyed in the last 60 years ,All i see are more and more New
> > > churches , more renewal and reconstruction of ancient buildings ,,
> > > Before the year 2000 , expecting many pilgrims, the whole country
> > > became one big renewal for every church ,,,
>
> > > ------------------
> > > There is no such thing as `Rabbinical prophecy`. Rabbies are not
> > > prophets .
>
> > > mirjam
>
> > and a Prophet. In fact, all Jews agree that Moses was the greatest,
> > the Chief Rabbi Prophet with the most authority of all. HaShem
> > himself is a Rabbi and a Prophet. The word Rav is used as a teacher.
> > Rabbi is simply Rav prepared to be used in the smechot.
>
> Do you know to whom prophecy is given,
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Who?
NefeshBarYochai
> On Aug 3, 8:53 am, NefeshBarYochai <lbitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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>
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> > On Aug 2, 9:27 pm, mirjam <mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.google.co.il/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US...
>
> > > Mr John Fisher ,
> > > as you can see there are many many churches in Israel ,, name one that
> > > was `destroyed in the last 60 years ,All i see are more and more New
> > > churches , more renewal and reconstruction of ancient buildings ,,
> > > Before the year 2000 , expecting many pilgrims, the whole country
> > > became one big renewal for every church ,,,
>
> > > ------------------
> > > There is no such thing as `Rabbinical prophecy`. Rabbies are not
> > > prophets .
>
> > > mirjam
>
> > Oh, you are an expert on Prophets now are you? Moses lived as a Rabbi
> > and a Prophet. In fact, all Jews agree that Moses was the greatest,
> > the Chief Rabbi Prophet with the most authority of all. HaShem
> > himself is a Rabbi and a Prophet. The word Rav is used as a teacher.
> > Rabbi is simply Rav prepared to be used in the smechot.
>
> thus meaning Moshe Our teacher , not our rabbi as it is meant today ,
> mirjam- Hide quoted text -
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But mirjam a Rabbi is a teacher. If I were to come to Israel could I
get a date with you. We could go to a nice outdoor cafe and eat some
hummus and drink some coffee and establish a chain of command.
NefeshBarYochai
> On Aug 3, 10:13 am, President Soetoro
>
>
>
>
>
> <osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 2, 7:11 pm, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 2, 4:54 pm, President Soetoro
> > > > Israeli settlements in gazahttp://tinyurl.com/2fxdho3
>
> > > > I found this next item scary, and at the same time very funny.
>
> > > > 40 Al-Qaeda terrorists killed by their own Black Plague biological
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Not so funny!!! It wouldn't surprise me if it were planted by the
> > > Criminal State of Israel!!! They're guilty of so many false flag
> > > operationsk don't ya know!!!
>
> > > As for my expressions regarding violence, where have you EVER found
> > > that I've a propensity towards violence for anything non-Muslim????
> > > Where have you EVER found, in my thousands of contributions to these
> > > groups, any suggestion that I believed in violence by any party?????
> > > Are you given to LIES or do you say the first thing that comes to mind
> > > whether or not it is true???
>
> > My next question is what was the iranian nuclear physicist doing
> > running around America for the last 1-1/2 years. Did O[BEEP]a give
> > them a nuke, and where do they plan on detonating it? The USA? Israel?
> > Did they plant one in the US? How did he get into the US? Why did they
> > just let me go? Where was he?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> How do so manhy Israeli spies get to operate in the US???? Speculate
> all you like. Perhaps Israel did have something to do with it. It's
>
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You mean Israel is the boogieman? Use a laxative suppository you reek
of being full of sheet.
NefeshBarYochai
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Look asshole, when you are calling down Israel you are walking on the
fighting side of me. You Quack.
President Soetoro
You are way to funny! I'm not a Jew nor am I a Zionist. I have a
tremendous amount of respect and admiration for what Israel has
accomplished against overwhelming odds.
To have neighbors like you, who would like nothing more than to finish
the job hitler started, and to have overcome the holocaust, the 1948,
1967, and 1973 wars. They rock!
They have built the only semblance of civilization in a region that is
the shit-hole of the planet, surrounded by millions of muslime who
still think it the 1100's. Surrounded by morons who force their women
to wear body condoms, who bury women up to their waist then stone them
to death, who still think slavery is ok! islam is a cult of death! And
I wish the Israelis the very best in dealing with the worthless
cretins you are!
President Soetoro
I, unlike you, have read the koran and more importantly the hadiith's.
When I read the part about momo screwing a 6 year old, I thought at
first it had to be a misprint. But the story it is repeated over and
over again in the hadiiths. And I thought to myself as my blood ran
cold, you people should have burned his cajones off, then covered him
with honey and thrown him into a pig sty and let the javelina pigs
devour him!
jamilah
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but even now They haven't built to Moral civilization, Bonus it is the
land stolen
Folly to think that Women's wear the veil as force While it is
obedience her God no more
This veil is even in the Torah but They twist their religion as they
want also as stone Which is the law of the Jewish who know it their
rabbis, how did say about islam! which It's like the teachings of
Judaism, but the difference that the Jews rejected their religion but
moslims did not
Israel began the destruction, theft, and murder so Through They have
built their Savagery civilization, for that God will defeat them, God
does not love the unjust
John Fisher
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Give it your best!!!-:) I'm not prejudiced!!!=:) We seek to BOYCOTT
THE CRIMINAL STATE OF ISRAEL!!!
What's your objection???
John Fisher
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So sad, you have fallen for the propaganda!!! The customs 'n' morals
of this nation, which was into slavery, at one time, are/was not an
excuse for the actions of the Klan which was guilty of widspread
violence against Katholic, Kykes 'n' Koons!!! Israel is not to be
excused for its venture into the same sphere which prompted it to say
"NEVER AGAIN" when they suffered the holocaust!!! Palestinians are
of the same mind and want the Criminal State of Israel to end its
impositions. Years ago, I was very sympathetic to the plight of
Israel, even to the extent of planting trees in Israel!!! I've
changed my mind, over the years. Hopefully, you will change your mind
and not give continued support to criminality.
ALL Muslims, as with ALL Jews, are not criminals. It is the elements
within their societies which are. Years ago, Catholic Nuns were all
over wearing costumes similar to those of current day Muslim women.
Some ever wore veils. Women did not have the vote and were shunned if
they wore dresses above the ankle (in my time). Women were also
obliged to wear hats\ and were demeaned in many other ways.
Change takes place over a period of time and the attitudes of all
cults/religions are subject to change!! The world is a smaller place
than it ever was in the past. Families, in my day, would disown their
children if intermarriage became a reality. Abies Irsh Rose was more
acceptable, in those days, than it was for an Irishman to marry an
Italian. Times change and people grow. The world objects to the laws
of other countries and those of more sophisticated mentality tries to
help in bringing others into the modern world.
Part of the problem are elements of religious beliefs which cloud the
minds of those engaged in their exercise. Not ALL Jews are champions
of Israel's behavior. I would hope you would listen to them in your
quest for truth and justice!!
BTW, what are these "overwhelming odds" to which you refer???
John Fisher
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I have translated the bible (Old and New Testaments) from the Greek
and (not much) some Hebrew!!! I did spend some time studying Hebrew
but spent much more in the study of Greek!!! I've also read the
Koran!! As for child molestation, if you like, I'll produce a long
list of Rabbis who are guilty of such behavior!!!
Reconsidering the offer - Here is a partial list:
Does it surprise you????
Zev
> On Aug 3, 12:12 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 8:53 am, NefeshBarYochai <lbitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 2, 9:27 pm, mirjam <mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
> > > >http://www.google.co.il/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US...
> > Do you know to whom prophecy is given,
> > since the destruction?
> Who?
Ktanim vshotim.
Zev
Your claim:
"There are many churches in Gaza, in spite of the fact that Zionists
destroyed many of them".
Your response to my "one church" question was a link to a blog
written by someone who was not there,
which discussed damage to a church during the "Cast Lead" conflict.
It may have been justifiably targeted, or it may have been
hit by mistake, by either side.
If that was the point of your claim,
you expressed yourself poorly.
> > > > > > that was destroyed in the last 60 years?
> > > > > > Can you name one Christian institution which
> > > > > > was established in the last 5 years?
> > > > > > Do you call Gazans "criminals" because they kill Christians?
> > > > > > Did you read the article you linked to before posting it?-
>
> I DID JUST THAT: http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2009/s09010002.htm
>
> Now, what's your problem????
See my previous comments on this link.
Zev
> On Aug 3, 5:53 pm, President Soetoro
> <osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 4:14 pm, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 3, 5:07 pm, President Soetoro
> > > <osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Aug 3, 3:42 pm, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
Your "long list of Rabbis who are guilty...."
contains many people who are not Rabbis.
Some of them were convicted, many were only accused.
Some don't involve children.
One person committed his crimes as a Gentile
and converted to Judaism in prison.
Why is he in the list?
Another is accused of treating disabled patients ``like animals,''
He belongs in a list, but why this one?
Some involve possession of pornography
and some have no description at all.
In most cases, the crime is "molestation"
which is difficult to judge.
In some societies touching a woman's behind
will get you a wicked smile,
in others it can get you in big trouble.
And of course, we have to assume this
openly anti-Semitic blog isn't fabricating some of this.
John, you're too predictable.
Try telling the unembellished truth for a change.
Use reputable sources.
Can you do that?
John Fisher
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Excuses, excuses, excuses!!!! The FACT is, you made reference to one
individual (church person), of another religion, as being a
pedaphile!!!! The reference, in my contribution, reveals that, MANY,
in spite of your pooh-pooh, RABBIS ARE, INDEED, PEDAPHILES!!!! If
you want to reference degenerates, remember, no religious community is
absent them!!!
jamilah
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OK. but nothing in the Koran so-called as child molestation or
pedaphile.
Most of the Western people are Wondering from the fact that the
Prophet
Peace be upon him – married Aisha who was just nine years old
They did not know the fact that such marriage in such age in such era
was a natural matter..
such this a marriage was a general phenomenon which appeared before
Islam and continued after... "Mary was approximately 14 years old when
she got pregnant with Jesus.
The Old Testament narrated the story of the marriage of Ishaq Bin
Ibrahim Peace be upon them – from Refka while she was just three years
old. The Genesis mentioned that Ishaq was born while Sara was ninety
years old. Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed, and said in his
heart, "Will a child be born to a man one hundred years old? And will
Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear a child?" (Genesis 17:17).
Before Islam was a marriage is widespread and natural enough,before
1400 years ago was quite different from our time now ...
Essentially, Was Aisha engaged to someone else before she got engaged
to Muhammad..
and Her Marriage with the prophet was a Wahy (Divine Revelation). She,
herself relates from the Prophet. "He said, 'I saw you in dreams three
times. The angel brought you to me and you were clad in white silk. He
(the angel) said that it was your consort and he (angel) showed me by
opening your face. You are just like that..." Sahih Muslim, Vol.2, p.
285.
From Abu Dawud, Vol. 2, #2116:
"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years
old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had
intercourse
with me when I was 9 years old."
<snip>
It is important to know that the instigators who exploited this
marriage to harm Prophet Muhammad – Peace be upon him – have relied on
the ignorance of people about the details of such marriage and tried
to gain the sympathy of the western people toward Aisha as if she was
an American girl in the 21st century and was deprived of her
childhood, while the actual facts are totally different. It is not
logical to compare the American or Western girl in the 21st century
with an Eastern Arabian girl before 1400 years. This is totally
illogical because it is misleading and causing misunderstanding
reality; therefore it will lead to misjudgment. If such criticizers
want the Prophet – Peace be upon him – before 14 centuries to marry
according to the American or Western customs in the 21st century, it
is then their own affair; they cannot impose their own principles on
generations preceding them several hundreds of years. It is not
logical to issue judgments on the old generations according to
circumstances which they did not live or participate or establish.
Moreover, such criticizers did not compare the marriage of the Prophet
– Peace be upon him – and Aisha – May Allah be pleased with her – with
the realty & customs of several Western and Christian countries after
hundreds of years and did not compare it with the marriage in the
Jewish religion which allowed the marriage of a child when she attain
three years and one day only. Therefore, this demonstrates the
incredibility of such criticizers and discharges the Prophet – Peace
be upon him – from their fabricated allegations and falsifications. It
is worth mentioning here also that several prophets – Peace be upon
them – were very old and married young virgin girls. The Bible
mentioned that Dawood (David) – Peace be upon him - was old and caught
cold and was not able to warm himself in spite of wearing heavy
clothes. Kings1, the first chapter, stated:
"When King David was old and well advanced in years, he could not keep
warm even when they put covers over him. So his servants said to him,
“Let us look for a young virgin to attend the king and take care of
him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm.
Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful girl and found
Abishag, a Shunammite, and brought her to the king. ”
It is a very clear picture; Prophet Dawood (David) – Peace be upon him
- was very old; however, they searched for him a virgin girl tens of
years younger than him in order to keep him warm. Such verses are
speaking about sexual meanings such as warming Prophet Dawood – Peace
be upon him – using a young beautiful virgin girl, as stated in the
verses! So, why don't such people who instigate against Islam look at
this issue and consider it rape? Why don't the Western media speak
about such event the way they speak about the marriage of the Prophet
– Peace be upon him – and Aisha? The reason is simple; the purpose of
such criticism is not such marriage cases or relationships; contrary,
they are seeking to distort the picture of Islam only, instigating
against it and making people hate this religion and its followers! But
the truth will appear some day, and people will surely discover the
malicious goals and methods of such instigators...
http://www.rasoulallah.net/v2/document.aspx?lang=en&doc=8817
Those people competed in writing about such marriage and ignored the
similar cases in the era where Prophet Muhammad was living. Why didn't
the people - who criticized the Prophet for marrying Aisha- criticize
the disbelievers who fought Muhammad and tried to kill him? They have
married girls in early ages and even preceded the Prophet – Peace be
upon him – in doing the same..
Zev
> On Aug 4, 2:23 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 5:53 pm, President Soetoro
> > <osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK. but nothing in the Koran so-called as child molestation or
> pedaphile.
>
> Most of the Western people are Wondering from the fact that the
> Prophet
>
> Peace be upon him – married Aisha who was just nine years old
>
> They did not know the fact that such marriage in such age in such era
> was a natural matter..
"In such era"???
Child marriage, justified by Muhammad's behavior, continues till
today,.
> The Bible
> mentioned that Dawood (David) – Peace be upon him - was old and caught
> cold and was not able to warm himself in spite of wearing heavy
> clothes. Kings1, the first chapter, stated:
> "When King David was old and well advanced in years, he could not keep
> warm even when they put covers over him. So his servants said to him,
> “Let us look for a young virgin to attend the king and take care of
> him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm.
> Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful girl and found
> Abishag, a Shunammite, and brought her to the king. ”
>
> It is a very clear picture; Prophet Dawood (David) – Peace be upon him
> - was very old; however, they searched for him a virgin girl tens of
> years younger than him in order to keep him warm. Such verses are
> speaking about sexual meanings such as warming Prophet Dawood – Peace
> be upon him – using a young beautiful virgin girl, as stated in the
> verses! So, why don't such people who instigate against Islam look at
> this issue and consider it rape? Why don't the Western media speak
> about such event the way they speak about the marriage of the Prophet
> – Peace be upon him – and Aisha? The reason is simple; the purpose of
> such criticism is not such marriage cases or relationships; contrary,
> they are seeking to distort the picture of Islam only, instigating
> against it and making people hate this religion and its followers! But
> the truth will appear some day, and people will surely discover the
> malicious goals and methods of such instigators...
The reason is simpler than that.
If you would have read one more verse (verse 4),
you would have seen it yourself.
"....but the king did not cohabit with her".
Zev
Well here's something new,
you think I'm someone else...
Zev
> On Aug 3, 10:01 am, President Soetoro
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>
>
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> <osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 12:45 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 2, 8:50 pm, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 2, 12:40 pm, President Soetoro
>
> > > > <osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 2, 8:57 am, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Aug 2, 6:01 am, President Soetoro
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> > > > > >http://windowintopalestine.blogspot.com/2010/08/two-dead-and-four-chi...
>
> > > > > Fascist paleoidiots continue to bomb innocent Israeli woman and
> > > > > children, Fascist paleoidiots continue to tell innocent Israeli woman
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> > > Life in Israel isn't as dangerous as "Soetoro" would have us believe,
> > > but your questions make the impression that you don't like BS,
>
> > Nor is life in gaza as bad as these people would like you to believe.
> > They make it sound like everyone is living in abject poverty, but as
> > you can see from the links I have posted, their claims are greatly
> > exaggerated.
>
> > In reading that article, there are 4 churches in gaza and 3,000
> > Christians. They are segregated and forced to live in a small section
> > parceled to them by the PA.
>
> > Palestine’s Christians Continue to Suffer Persecutionhttp://tinyurl.com/29cr4z
>
> > Persecution news of Christianshttp://tinyurl.com/25b4p5m
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> > Christian Persecution in Gazahttp://tinyurl.com/2dz8sen
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> > Persecuting Christians in Gazahttp://tinyurl.com/27samar
>
> > So you see, Fisher yells and screams about the rights of the
> > palestinians in gaza but plays lip service at protecting other non
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> http://realchristianity.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/christian-persecutio...
>
> Are they not????
Many thousands of Christians live in Israel.
No one bothers them.
The blog you linked to is run by
a "born again Christian", Alan Higgins.
His interest in Israel is in proselytizing,
he wants Jews to become Christians.
Jews who take their religion seriously don't want
their children or themselves to be exposed to it.
He wouldn't fare any better in any one of dozens
of Jewish religious communities around the world,
and of course, he wouldn't dare try it in any
other country in the Middle East.
He asks for trouble, and he finds it.
Not surprising, is it?
John Fisher
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Are you saying he is lying????
Are all of these people lying????
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?query=christians+persecuted+in+israel&s_it=client95_searchbox
Zev
No.
What I'm saying is that many thousands of Christians live in Israel.
No one bothers them. The blog you linked to is run by
a "born again Christian", Alan Higgins.
Many such people have gone crazy because Jews weren't interested
in the "Good News" that God's father, God, sacrificed him
to atone for sins that hadn't yet been committed,
by Gentiles for whom the actions were never defined as sins.
Jews who take their religion seriously don't want
their children or themselves to be exposed to this.
He wouldn't fare any better in any one of dozens
of Jewish religious communities around the world,
so it has nothing to do with Israel, per se,
and of course, he wouldn't dare try it in any
other country in the Middle East.
> Are all of these people lying????
>
> http://search.aol.com/aol/search?query=christians+persecuted+in+israe...
John Fisher
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I ask you again, in spite of his Christianity, "Was he LYING??"
Zev
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> I ask you again, in spite of his Christianity, "Was he LYING??"
I suspect him of exaggerating because of his agenda
and the fact that he sounds like a kook.
But I haven't said he was lying.
On the contrary.
For the time being, I'm taking his claims at face value
and I'm saying he found what he was looking for.
His statements, even if true, don't verify your claim that
"Christians are persecuted in Israel".
Many thousands of Christians live in Israel and no one bothers them.
John, this is the third time I'm telling you this.
You've been asked why you don't take an interest
in the plight of Christians living in Gaza.
Why don't you answer?
President Soetoro
Were any of them the "founder" of the religion? Didn't think so. Must
be nice to belong to a religion were the founder was a pedophile!