Who's The Boss? tournament - Redcap's Corner, 11/3

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Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 18, 2012, 4:48:11 PM10/18/12
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Hey all,

We are having a Who's the Boss? tournament at Redcap's Corner in University City, Philadelphia on November 3rd. Please see the details below on this format.

Venue: Redcap's Corner, 3617 Lancaster Ave, Philadelphia
Date: November 3rd
Start time: Registration starts at 11:00am, dice start rolling around 12:00pm.
Prizes: Store credit for 1st, 2nd and 3rd places.
Fee: $10
List: Build a single 35 point list, plus 5 warjack/warbeast points. The list MUST NOT include a warcaster/warlock.
Play: We will collect as many warcasters and warlocks as possible before we begin. Each round, each player will "spin the wheel" (actually, probably a random number generator) to determine which caster they will be using for that round. They cannot use a caster for their own faction, nor will two players use the same caster in the same round.

Once your caster has been chosen, the following rules apply:
* The caster becomes a Friendly faction model and gains all the benefits of being a caster of that game system. IE: A Khador army gets Thagrosh the Messiah as its caster, Thagrosh becomes a Focus 7 warcaster, being able to use overboost armor. A Circle army obtains The Harbinger of Menoth, she will become a fury 10 warlock, and be able to transfer damage to eligible beasts in her battlegroup.
* Focus and Fury manipulation of the caster will change as part of the army’s parent game system.
* Warjack and Warbeast text on the casters card will change as part of the army’s parent game system with the exception of offensive spells or offensive abilities. Offensive spells or abilities wording remains unchanged on the card.
* Abilities and Spell effects on the caster cards that add Focus will remove Fury in a Hordes army.
* Abilities and Spell effects on the caster cards that remove Fury will add Focus in a Warmachine army.
* Elite Cadre and similar abilities of the warcaster/warlock are lost unless the defined models exist in the army they are playing for. Thagrosh the Messiah would not spawn a lesser warbeast/warjack when taking 5 damage since lesser warbeast models only exist in a Legion of Everblight army. There is no such model as a lesser warjack. Forward Kommander Sorscha’s elite Cadre WinterGuard would not work if she was leading a Cryx army.
* Abilities/spells that heal/repair will change as part of the army’s parent game system.
* Animosity and Abilities that specify caster battlegroup types are removed from their card.
* In the case of casters that come with their own caster attachment, if a list already has a caster attachment, you must choose which one to take. A Cygnar force with a squire must choose between Deryliss and the Squire if they spin Mortenebra.

There are some also specific wording changes to casters that I will include in a future email.

Scenarios:
Each game will use the Steamroller 2012 rules and the Close Quarters scenario, with a 45 minute Deathclock (an eight minute bonus due to an unfamiliar caster!).
Painting: No painting requirement.

Lemme know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Jason

Scot Mogilewski

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Oct 18, 2012, 5:09:18 PM10/18/12
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This sounds fun as shit. especially for me who has no clue how to master a caster to begin with. 

Joel Olshefski

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Oct 18, 2012, 5:14:03 PM10/18/12
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While i can barely make my own casters work and have no solid idea how hordes even works, this sounds like a super fun tourney. I may have to stop by to see this in action

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 18, 2012, 5:14:22 PM10/18/12
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Awesome, hope you can make it out!

Josh

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Oct 18, 2012, 5:28:48 PM10/18/12
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I can't make it but you can borrow all my casters. 

Michael Klinger

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Oct 18, 2012, 5:50:40 PM10/18/12
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I should be there... let me know what casters you need that I might have...

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:04:04 PM10/18/12
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Awesome. Bring 'em all...

rich...@gmail.com

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:14:02 PM10/18/12
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You guys should post this in the south jersey watching and hordes page on Facebook.

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Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:22:49 PM10/18/12
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Anyone with a Facebook account, please go right ahead... In that respect, I'm a Luddite.

Michael

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:28:29 PM10/18/12
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I don't know what that means!!!!!

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Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:31:23 PM10/18/12
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rich salus

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:32:41 PM10/18/12
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I'll invite who ever wants to start posting for the store.

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:34:11 PM10/18/12
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Thanks, Rich, that would be awesome. Adam/Mike/Michael, are one of you guys willing and able?

Michael Klinger

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:45:49 PM10/18/12
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I'm willing and able.

rich salus

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:49:55 PM10/18/12
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Just need a name to invite.

Michael Klinger

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:55:15 PM10/18/12
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Michael Klinger... just found and tried to join the group if that helps

rich...@gmail.com

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Oct 18, 2012, 9:02:20 PM10/18/12
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Should be good to go.

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Michael Ireland

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Oct 18, 2012, 10:19:32 PM10/18/12
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I believe I'm good to go.  Worst case scenario I'll drop off my casters before the tourny.

Michael Klinger

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Oct 18, 2012, 10:24:20 PM10/18/12
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Should we make a signup sheet or something along those lines? Try and get every caster we can?

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 18, 2012, 10:23:20 PM10/18/12
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Cool, thanks for the offer, but obviously I'd prefer if you can make it. :-)

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Alex Castonguay

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Oct 18, 2012, 11:25:42 PM10/18/12
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What a lazy PG

Alex Castonguay

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Oct 18, 2012, 11:26:16 PM10/18/12
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Oops read that wrong my bad haha

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 18, 2012, 11:27:54 PM10/18/12
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You're still my favorite player, Alex.

Alex Castonguay

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Oct 18, 2012, 11:28:28 PM10/18/12
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You're still my favorite lazy PG

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 23, 2012, 10:15:54 AM10/23/12
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Hi folks,

I uploaded a list of all of the casters in the game here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhKKiFF6enMqdDFKVnNKT29OY1VXeXdQWFNZeTkzeXc

Please take a look, and let me know which casters (and cards) you are willing and able to provide for this tournament. If you tell me that you'll bring a caster, PLEASE bring it or drop it off at the store. If you're not sure if you can provide a model/card, don't tell me you can. I am going to make simple proxies (blank bases or something) for any caster we don't have, so if you're not sure, don't sign up for it!

Thanks,
Jason

Michael Ireland

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Oct 23, 2012, 1:17:53 PM10/23/12
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Hey Jason,

I'll be able to provide Kaelyssa, Garryth, Vyros, Rahn, Ravyn, and Ossyan.

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 23, 2012, 1:19:08 PM10/23/12
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Awesome, thanks!

Adam F

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Oct 24, 2012, 12:20:27 PM10/24/12
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All my stuff is packed away in weird places. I'm looking for most of my cards. If I can find them I'll try and bring all of mine. 

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 24, 2012, 12:21:36 PM10/24/12
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Thanks, because I was really counting on your models.

Adam F

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Oct 24, 2012, 12:23:53 PM10/24/12
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I just noticed that jason is covering almost every caster I own, so I'll look harder for the ones no one owns (like Harkovich, eGrissel, Kallus, eKaya, Mohsar) Matt, I'll use this as an excuse to bring all your farrow stuff in, so if you don't mind people using your farrow guys then we can add all three of them as well.

Michael

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Oct 24, 2012, 12:25:29 PM10/24/12
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I have Ekaya forgot to fill out the list last night. I'll try and remember tonight.

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Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 24, 2012, 12:51:50 PM10/24/12
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Just send me which casters you can bring and I'll add them to the list...

Also, I have Kallus.

Adam F

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Oct 24, 2012, 1:25:07 PM10/24/12
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do we have the list of alternate rules yet? I'm trying to build my list right now

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 24, 2012, 1:27:43 PM10/24/12
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Yeah, I'll send them when I get back to the office. 

Adam F

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Oct 24, 2012, 1:28:35 PM10/24/12
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Also, do we have to follow specific battlegroup requirements? Can I build a magnus-less 4 star and include renegades? (i'm asking because i have been wanting to play my merc for a while and my two finished merc lists are a little wonky for this--both a tier lists which obv doesn't work, but mag's list swaps easy from tier to non tier except for the fact that there are two renegade and all :))

Adam F

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Oct 24, 2012, 1:29:50 PM10/24/12
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ashlynn's tier however doesn't make the transition-- seeing as i have two units of gun mages.

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 24, 2012, 2:22:49 PM10/24/12
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Hi all,

Here are the specific rules for army construction and specific rules interactions. Please lemme know if you have any questions.

Army Lists
Caster specific models can only be included in army lists that are built specifically for that type of caster. For Example, Jim wants to take the Commodore Cannon, he must use the Talion Charter Mercenary Contract, and follow all of the rules for it, other than using Shae as the caster. A player can only take the Renegade light warjack in Mercenary Contracts where Magnus is allowed. Theme Forces are not allowed. There are no reinforcements.

Specific caster/model rules
Most of the abilities/spells can be defined with using the caster rules above. Some of the more complicated interactions are listed below. Casters that come with their own caster attachment: You must choose which one to take--a Cygnar force with a squire must choose between Deryliss and the squire if they get Mortenebra.

CYGNAR
    Commander Adept Nemo
        OVERPOWER: During your Control Phase, after this model reaves fury, this model can spend fury to increase its control area for one round at 1 fury point for each 1” increase.
        SUPERCHARGE: During your Control Phase, Choose one Warbeast in this model’s battlegroup that is in its control area. That Warbeast can be forced up to 5 fury during its activation that turn.

    General Adept Nemo
        FOCUS MATRIX: This ability does not work as a warlock.

    Lord Commander Stryker
        OVERLOAD: Damage from this ability is non-transferable.


CRYX
    Master Necrotech Mortenebra
        INTERFACE: This ability does not work as a warlock.
   
    Pirate Queen Skarre
        FEAT: BLOOD MAGIX: Damage from this ability is non-transferable.

    Skarre, Queen of the Broken Coast
        FEAT: FATE WEAVER: Damage from this ability is non-transferable.
   

KHADOR
    The Old Witch of Khador
        Scrapjack: This models works like a warbeast in Old Witch’s battlegroup. It must have a functional cortex system to be forced. This model has a max fury of 3 with a threshold of 8.
   
    Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion
        Might of Kings: Damage from leaching fury from the warlock’s own life source does not trigger this ability.


CIRCLE OF ORBOROS
    Baldur the Stonecleaver
        ELEMENTAL MASTERY: remove (This Model can heal friendly warbeasts in its battlegroup that have construct)
   
    Baldur the Stonesoul
        ELEMENTAL MASTERY: remove (This Model can heal friendly warbeasts in its battlegroup that have construct)
   
    Kaya the Wildborne
        PACK HUNTERS: Remove living from the text.
        FEAT: WILD MASTERY: (Replace Feat) Place 6 additional focus points onto models in Kaya’s battlegroup. This placement cannot exceed normal allocation limits. This model cannot have more focus points than its FOCUS as a result of Wild Mastery.
   
    Kaya the Moonhunter
        ALPHA: Remove living from the text.
        FEAT: CALL OF THE HUNT: (Replace first sentence) Kaya can allocate to warjacks in her battlegroup even if they are outside her control area.
        SPELL: FORCED EVOLUTION: Remove living from the text.
        Laris: This model works like a warjack in Kaya’s battlegroup. It must have a functional Spirit to be allocated to and use focus.
       
    Mohsar the Desertwalker
        MALTREATMENT: Once per turn during its activation this model can add 1 focus point to a warjack in its battlegroup that is in its control area and remove 1 focus point from its own current total. The warjack suffers d3 damage points.
       
    Kromac the Ravenous
        SPELL: WILD AGGRESSION: Remove living from the text.
   
    Morvahna the Autumnblade
        HARROW: add to the end of 2nd sentence: ...by spending 1 Focus point.
       
       
LEGION OF EVERBLIGHT
    Saeryn, Omen of Everblight
        SPELL: RESPAWN: (replace text aspect with system)
   

MINIONS
    Sturm & Drang
        PACK HUNTERS: Remove living from the text.
   
    Lord Carver, BMMD Esq III
        FEAT: HOG HEAVEN: (replace first sentence) While in Carver’s control area, friendly Faction models gain Overtake and an additional die on melee damage rolls.
   
    Dr. Arkadius
        MALTREATMENT: Once per turn during its activation this model can add 1 focus point to a warjack in its battlegroup that is in its control area and remove 1 focus point from its own current total. The warjack suffers d3 damage points.
        FEAT: MONSTER MAYHEM: Follow the normal Hordes rules for frenzy replacing warbeast with warjack.
        SPELL: FORCED EVOLUTION: Remove Living from the spell.

       
SKORNE
    Master Ascetic Naaresh
        FEAT: IMPERISHABLE FLESH: Replace wording of aspect with system.
   
    Supreme Aptimus Zaal
        Kovaas: This model starts the game in play, unless it is a part of a Skorne army.
   
    Dominar Rasheth
        SPELL: BLOOD MARK: (replace beginning of second sentence) This model can spend one focus to transfer damage from an enemy...

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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We have a big gap with Khador and Skorne, as well as Minions and Mercs. Can anyone help out with those?

Jason

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Josh

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I have rasheth and the battle box guy. You need anyone specific from cygnar? I'm headed to the shop tomorrow. 

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 25, 2012, 10:31:42 AM10/25/12
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That'd be great, thanks! I put you down for all of the Cygnar casters, and I'll put you down for those two Skorne casters.

Matthew Herrmann

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Oct 25, 2012, 10:54:42 AM10/25/12
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If you're going to change Wild Aggression to affect Constructs/Jacks, you should change Iron Aggression to also affect Warbeasts.

Just sayin'

-Matt

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 25, 2012, 10:59:57 AM10/25/12
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It already does, per the general rule of:

* Warjack and Warbeast text on the casters card will change as part of the army’s parent game system with the exception of offensive spells or offensive abilities. Offensive spells or abilities wording remains unchanged on the card.

Wild Aggression had to be specifically changed to make it apply to non-living models.

Matthew Herrmann

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Oct 25, 2012, 11:56:27 AM10/25/12
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Ah, I see. Carry on then.

 :)

-Matt

alex.ca...@gmail.com

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Oct 29, 2012, 6:42:46 AM10/29/12
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I have all the cards for Khador

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Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:26:42 AM10/29/12
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You are awesome, Alex. Do you have all of the caster cards, or the ones from the Khador deck?

Josh

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I dropped off all my cygnar casters and the Skorne guys I had too. With cards. Adam took them. All the cygnar casters but pCaine

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:34:25 AM10/29/12
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Awesome, thank so much, Josh.

alex.ca...@gmail.com

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Oct 29, 2012, 5:33:48 PM10/29/12
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From the deck plus harkovich.

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Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 29, 2012, 6:55:30 PM10/29/12
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Cool... you coming on Saturday, or can you drop the cards off?

Thanks,
Jason

alex.ca...@gmail.com

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Oct 30, 2012, 1:33:32 AM10/30/12
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I'll be coming

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Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 30, 2012, 4:40:14 PM10/30/12
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Hi folks,

Just a reminder about the upcoming tournament this Saturday at Redcap's Corner.

Salus, anyone from down that way coming?

Jason

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Oct 31, 2012, 10:53:55 PM10/31/12
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A small addition to the rules governing specific warcasters/warlocks.

General Ossrum
   FEAT: PERFECT PLAN: replace both instances of "friendly Rhulic" with "friendly faction"

Jason Ellsworth-Aults

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Nov 5, 2012, 2:03:26 PM11/5/12
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Hey all,

We only had four people show up for the tournament this weekend, but lemme tell you, this is the coolest format ever. We will definitely be doing this again...

Thanks to Joe, Josh, Mike, Michael and Adam for lending us models and cards so we were able to have all 123 casters available for play.

Over the course of the three rounds of play, we had:

A Ret army lead by Kreoss1 vs. a Cryx army lead by Vyros2
A Circle army lead by Rahn vs. a Khador army with a Devastator and a Conquest lead by Lylyth2

Cryx lead by Madrak2 vs. the same Khador army, this time lead by Lylyth1 (this was my favorite game... Madrak2 and Banes go together like peanut butter and chocolate. And cherries. Or maybe marshmallow.).
Ret lead by Deneghra1 vs. Circle lead by The Old Witch (second favorite game, purely because Mike cast Gallows twice, and it worked BOTH TIMES!)

The final round was the poor Khador army lead by Caine2 vs. Ret lead by Doomshaper1
And the championship game was Strakhov leading Circle vs. Morghoul2 leading Cryx, with Strakhov for the win. Remember, Morghoul2 does NOT have reach, and Superiority + Primal + Warpwolf Stalker kills... everything...

Here are the lists:

CIRCLE
* Gorax  4 points
* Pureblood Warpwolf  9 points
* Warpwolf Stalker  10 points

2x Gallows Grove  1 point each
Shifting Stones  2 points
Shifting Stones  2 points
* Stone Keeper  1 point
10 Tharn Bloodtrackers  8 points
* Nuala The Huntress  2 points


RETRIBUTION
* Phoenix  10 points
* Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker  2 points

10 Dawnguard Sentinels  9 points
* Sentinel Officer & Standard  2 points
Eiryss, Angel of Retribution  3 points
2x Mage Hunter Assassin  2 points each
10 Mage Hunter Strike Force  8 points
* Mage Hunter Commander  2 points


CRYX
* 2x Helldiver  3 points each

10 Bane Knights  10 points
Bane Lord Tartarus  4 points
10 Bane Thralls  8 points
* Bane Thrall Officer & Standard  3 points
Darragh Wrathe  4 points
Withershadow Combine  5 points


KHADOR
* Conquest  19 points
* Devastator  9 points

6 Battle Mechaniks  3 points
Great Bears of Gallowswood  5 points
Widowmakers  4 points
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