We must do all we can to STOP Repeated violent and brutal crimes
against innocents, especially women, children, the elderly and
disabled.
We have seen the violent abuse and murder of Kelsey Smith, the
wonderful teenager kidnapped in broad daylight in a Target parking
lot
and viciously and mercilessly murdered eight days after her HS
graduation (6/07); of the young girl in Florida who was viciously and
mercilessly sexually abused and buried alive to die a terrifying
death; of the young girl abducted in broad daylight at the carwash
and
found abused and mercilessly murdered in the nearby yard of a local
church; of the Virginia Tech massacre of 30; of the Amish school
massacre of five; of the 13 women brutally murdered in Kansas by
Lorenzo Gilyard; of the dozens of college girls brutally murdered by
Ted Bundy; of the congressman's aide - Jennifer Levin - found abused
and murdered in NY's Central Park; of Sean Goff's brutal execution of
his little wife, slashing her to death and then ripping out her teeth
and fingers so her body might not be identified; of the 500 women
viciously abused and killed in Edmonton
(www.missingwomen.blogspot.com); of the 500+ innocent factory working
girls mercilessly mutilated and murdered in Juarez
(www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/ predators/ciudad_juarez/); of
the 2200 females burtally murdered in Guatemala since 2001
[www.nyu.edu/classes/siva/archives/003532.html] . The list just goes
on and on. It seems like it is in season for abusing and killing
innocents, especially women and children.
For the year 2004 the record of aggravated assault, forcible rape,
murder, robbery(the crime of seizing property through violence or
intimidation) , simple assault,and sex offenses WAS 1801 victims per
100,000 residents, or 2 victims per 100 residents [http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Crime_Reports]. 2 out of every 100 of us
were the victims of violent crime, with the VICTIMS SUFFERING GREAT
GRIEF AND HARDSHIP FOR YEARS after the violence. If the victim is
still suffering physically, shouldn't the criminal still be suffering
also all that time? Imprisonment today is only emotional and
psychological suffering, but if the victim is still suffering
physically, shouldn't the criminal still be suffering, on a regular
basis?
A court can legally prescribe modified water boarding (no blindfold
and under water only for 15 seconds at 30 second intervals), 24 hours
of isolation in a bare room that is lit with bright lights all the
time, whipping with the criminal wearing a wet suit to protect the
skin, being placed in stocks in a public place - like in front of the
jail/prison, flogging with the criminal wearing a wet suit to protect
the skin, etc., all of which have been found to be constitutional in
the USA since 1812, when the country actually and really honored and
observed the letter of the law of the Constitution, as opposed to now
when it is misinterpreted and manipulated to fit the public whim of
the moment. "From time to time, Congress would revise the Articles of
War, but flogging remained the first recourse for punishment, in the
case of the navy up until 1850. . . . Accordingly, in 1833 flogging
for desertion was reintroduced and remained in force until the
outbreak of the Civil War."
[http://www.nps.gov/fomc/historyculture/upload/Journal%20Issue %2012-2.pdf; www.history.navy.mil/library/online/flogging.htm]
Constitutional Amendment 8 - 12/15/1791.
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
"During the 19th century, imprisonment gradually replaced corporal
penalties as a punishment for crime, but the courts retained the power
to order whippings in cases involving violent crimes [http://
www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/210444/flogging]. Old-fashioned
stocks and caning were legal and not deemed cruel or unusual
punishments by the writers of our Constitution, as evidenced by their
wide spread use at the time [http://www.corpun.com/jcppix.htm]
Fogging, whipping or caning are still a common form of punishment in
many former British territories, like Singapore, Brunei, Malaysia,
Tanzania.
[http://www.answers.com/topic/flagellation]
Judicial corporal punishment in the world today can take the form of
belting, birching, caning, whipping, foot whipping, paddling,
spanking, strapping and switching. It is implemented as an official
sentence by order of a court,
"as laid down for specified offences under the law of the country
concerned." These forms of corporal punishment are standard penalties
"in some Asian, African and Middle Eastern countries."
"Other ex-British territories with judicial caning currently on their
statute books include Barbados,[6] Botswana,[7] Brunei,[8] Swaziland,
[9] Tonga,[10] Trinidad & Tobago,[11] and Zimbabwe.[12] It has been
abolished in recent decades in Hong Kong,[13] the Isle of Man,[14]
Jamaica,[15] Kenya,[16] South Africa,[17] Sri Lanka, and Zambia.[18]"
"In the United Kingdom itself, JCP was abolished in 1948.[19] It was
removed from the statute book in Canada in 1972,[20] in India in the
1950s, in New Zealand in 1941,[21] and in Australia at various times
in the 20th century according to State.[22]"
[http://www.answers.com/topic/judicial-corporal-punishment]
As these dates show, for over 100 years under our Constitution
belting, birching, caning, whipping, foot whipping, paddling,
spanking, strapping and switching were not considered "cruel and
unusual punishments." If these
punishments were periodically imposed on the violent criminals whose
victims are still suffering physically, you would have a lot less
crime and many more criminals being so casual about returning to
prison where they have access to homosexual sex, pornography and
drugs.
Constitutional Amendment 13- 12/6/1865.
1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment
for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall
exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
jurisdiction.
This would allow violent criminals to be forced in to "slave" labor,
work without pay and with minimal safety rights and no personal
rights. Chain gangs,
forced field labor and road labor would be great deterrents for
violent criminals.
"The Supreme Court has held that physical punishments once commonly
accepted may become "cruel and unusual" as society's standards of
decency evolve." [http://www.answers.com/topic/punishment]. By any
standard our society has become more indecent than ever with the
ability for anyone to view people having sex with animals, incest,
rape, sex torture and sexual abuse on their computer at home. As our
society has become more indecent, the crimes against the most
vulnerable among us, youths, women and children have become more and
more inhuman.
"
• "More than 60 percent of the children surveyed were exposed to
violence, crime, or abuse within the past year, either directly or
indirectly.
• Nearly one-half of the children and adolescents surveyed were
assaulted at least once in the past year, and more than 1 in 10 were
injured as a result.
• Nearly one-quarter of the respondents were the victim of a robbery,
vandalism, or theft.
• One-tenth of respondents were victims of child maltreatment
(including physical and emotional abuse, neglect, or a family
abduction), and 1 in 16 were victimized sexually."
• [http://www.unh.edu/ccrc/]
"17.6 % of women in the United States have survived a completed or
attempted rape. Of these, 21.6% were younger than age 12 when they
were first raped, and 32.4% were between the ages of 12 and 17. . . .
The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the
police. U.S. Justice Department statistics are even lower, with only
26% of all rapes or attempted rapes being reported to law enforcement
officials. . . . In the National Violence Against Women Survey,
approximately 25% of women and 8% of men said they were raped and/or
physically assaulted . . . in their lifetimes. The survey estimates
that more than 300,000 intimate partner rapes occur each year against
women 18 and older. . . . Men perpetrate the majority of violent acts
against women. . . Factoring in unreported rapes, about 5% - one out
of twenty - of rapists will ever spend a day in jail. 19 out of 20
will walk free.[US Department of Justice Statistics)"
[http://www.feminist.com/antiviolence/facts.html]
Since most in today's America have come to believe that death is the
absolute end of one's existence, vicious criminals go out and do gross
violence to innocents and then kill themselves thinking that is the
end of
them, thinking they have escaped punishment, going out of existence
in
what they believe to be a great escape. I believe Hell is full of very
surprised people. Since in America the "cruel and unusual" has become
more
acceptable in movies, TV, plays and literature, surely it is time no
longer consider "cruel and unusual" modified water boarding, 24 hours
of
isolation in a bare room that is lit with bright lights all the time,
whipping, being placed in stocks in a public place - like in front of
the jail/prison, flogging etc, for those who cause great pain and
suffering to innocents, females and
...
CORRECTION
If these
punishments were periodically imposed on the violent criminals whose
victims are still suffering physically, you would have a lot less
crime and FAR FEWER criminals being so casual about returning to
prison where they have access to homosexual sex, pornography and
drugs.
On Oct 30, 2:01 pm, oldservant <oldserv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We must do all we can to STOP Repeated violent and brutal crimes
> against innocents, especially women, children, the elderly and
> disabled.
> We have seen the violent abuse and murder of Kelsey Smith, the
> wonderful teenager kidnapped in broad daylight in a Target parking
> lot
> and viciously and mercilessly murdered eight days after her HS
> graduation (6/07); of the young girl in Florida who was viciously and
> mercilessly sexually abused and buried alive to die a terrifying
> death; of the young girl abducted in broad daylight at the carwash
> and
> found abused and mercilessly murdered in the nearby yard of a local
> church; of the Virginia Tech massacre of 30; of the Amish school
> massacre of five; of the 13 women brutally murdered in Kansas by
> Lorenzo Gilyard; of the dozens of college girls brutally murdered by
> Ted Bundy; of the congressman's aide - Jennifer Levin - found abused
> and murdered in NY's Central Park; of Sean Goff's brutal execution of
> his little wife, slashing her to death and then ripping out her teeth
> and fingers so her body might not be identified; of the 500 women
> viciously abused and killed in Edmonton
> (www.missingwomen.blogspot.com);of the 500+ innocent factory working
> girls mercilessly mutilated and murdered in Juarez
> (www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/ciudad_juarez/); of
> the 2200 females burtally murdered in Guatemala since 2001
> [www.nyu.edu/classes/siva/archives/003532.html] . The list just goes
> on and on. It seems like it is in season for abusing and killing
> innocents, especially women and children.
> For the year 2004 the record of aggravated assault, forcible rape,
> murder, robbery(the crime of seizing property through violence or
> intimidation) , simple assault,and sex offenses WAS 1801 victims per
> 100,000 residents, or 2 victims per 100 residents [http://
> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Crime_Reports]. 2 out of every 100 of us
> were the victims of violent crime, with the VICTIMS SUFFERING GREAT
> GRIEF AND HARDSHIP FOR YEARS after the violence. If the victim is
> still suffering physically, shouldn't the criminal still be suffering
> also all that time? Imprisonment today is only emotional and
> psychological suffering, but if the victim is still suffering
> physically, shouldn't the criminal still be suffering, on a regular
> basis?
> A court can legally prescribe modified water boarding (no blindfold
> and under water only for 15 seconds at 30 second intervals), 24 hours
> of isolation in a bare room that is lit with bright lights all the
> time, whipping with the criminal wearing a wet suit to protect the
> skin, being placed in stocks in a public place - like in front of the
> jail/prison, flogging with the criminal wearing a wet suit to protect
> the skin, etc., all of which have been found to be constitutional in
> the USA since 1812, when the country actually and really honored and
> observed the letter of the law of the Constitution, as opposed to now
> when it is misinterpreted and manipulated to fit the public whim of
> the moment. "From time to time, Congress would revise the Articles of
> War, but flogging remained the first recourse for punishment, in the
> case of the navy up until 1850. . . . Accordingly, in 1833 flogging
> for desertion was reintroduced and remained in force until the
> outbreak of the Civil War."
> [http://www.nps.gov/fomc/historyculture/upload/Journal%20Issue > %2012-2.pdf;www.history.navy.mil/library/online/flogging.htm]
> Constitutional Amendment 8 - 12/15/1791.
> Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
> cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
> "During the 19th century, imprisonment gradually replaced corporal
> penalties as a punishment for crime, but the courts retained the power
> to order whippings in cases involving violent crimes [http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/210444/flogging]. Old-fashioned
> stocks and caning were legal and not deemed cruel or unusual
> punishments by the writers of our Constitution, as evidenced by their
> wide spread use at the time [http://www.corpun.com/jcppix.htm]
> Fogging, whipping or caning are still a common form of punishment in
> many former British territories, like Singapore, Brunei, Malaysia,
> Tanzania.
> [http://www.answers.com/topic/flagellation]
> Judicial corporal punishment in the world today can take the form of
> belting, birching, caning, whipping, foot whipping, paddling,
> spanking, strapping and switching. It is implemented as an official
> sentence by order of a court,
> "as laid down for specified offences under the law of the country
> concerned." These forms of corporal punishment are standard penalties
> "in some Asian, African and Middle Eastern countries."
> "Other ex-British territories with judicial caning currently on their
> statute books include Barbados,[6] Botswana,[7] Brunei,[8] Swaziland,
> [9] Tonga,[10] Trinidad & Tobago,[11] and Zimbabwe.[12] It has been
> abolished in recent decades in Hong Kong,[13] the Isle of Man,[14]
> Jamaica,[15] Kenya,[16] South Africa,[17] Sri Lanka, and Zambia.[18]"
> "In the United Kingdom itself, JCP was abolished in 1948.[19] It was
> removed from the statute book in Canada in 1972,[20] in India in the
> 1950s, in New Zealand in 1941,[21] and in Australia at various times
> in the 20th century according to State.[22]"
> [http://www.answers.com/topic/judicial-corporal-punishment]
> As these dates show, for over 100 years under our Constitution
> belting, birching, caning, whipping, foot whipping, paddling,
> spanking, strapping and switching were not considered "cruel and
> unusual punishments." If these
> punishments were periodically imposed on the violent criminals whose
> victims are still suffering physically, you would have a lot less
> crime and many more criminals being so casual about returning to
> prison where they have access to homosexual sex, pornography and
> drugs.
> Constitutional Amendment 13- 12/6/1865.
> 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment
> for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall
> exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
> jurisdiction.
> This would allow violent criminals to be forced in to "slave" labor,
> work without pay and with minimal safety rights and no personal
> rights. Chain gangs,
> forced field labor and road labor would be great deterrents for
> violent criminals.
> "The Supreme Court has held that physical punishments once commonly
> accepted may become "cruel and unusual" as society's standards of
> decency evolve." [http://www.answers.com/topic/punishment]. By any
> standard our society has become more indecent than ever with the
> ability for anyone to view people having sex with animals, incest,
> rape, sex torture and sexual abuse on their computer at home. As our
> society has become more indecent, the crimes against the most
> vulnerable among us, youths, women and children have become more and
> more inhuman.
> "
> • "More than 60 percent of the children surveyed were exposed to
> violence, crime, or abuse within the past year, either directly or
> indirectly.
> • Nearly one-half of the children and adolescents surveyed were
> assaulted at least once in the past year, and more than 1 in 10 were
> injured as a result.
> • Nearly one-quarter of the respondents were the victim of a robbery,
> vandalism, or theft.
> • One-tenth of respondents were victims of child maltreatment
> (including physical and emotional abuse, neglect, or a family
> abduction), and 1 in 16 were victimized sexually."
> • [http://www.unh.edu/ccrc/]
> "17.6 % of women in the United States have survived a completed or
> attempted rape. Of these, 21.6% were younger than age 12 when they
> were first raped, and 32.4% were between the ages of 12 and 17. . . .
> The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the
> police. U.S. Justice Department statistics are even lower, with only
> 26% of all rapes or attempted rapes being reported to law enforcement
> officials. . . . In the National Violence Against Women Survey,
> approximately 25% of women and 8% of men said they were raped and/or
> physically assaulted . . . in their lifetimes. The survey estimates
> that more than 300,000 intimate partner rapes occur each year against
> women 18 and older. . . . Men perpetrate the majority of violent acts
> against women. . . Factoring in unreported rapes, about 5% - one out
> of twenty - of rapists will ever spend a day in jail. 19 out of 20
> will walk free.[US Department of Justice Statistics)"
> [http://www.feminist.com/antiviolence/facts.html]
> Since most in today's America have come to believe that death is the
> absolute end of