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Mick Binns  
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 More options May 12 2011, 6:00 am
From: "Mick Binns" <Mick.Bi...@bradford.gov.uk>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:00:27 +0100
Local: Thurs, May 12 2011 6:00 am
Subject: Delays in Assessments

Hi All.  Bradford Trident are seriously examining the feasibility of
setting up a new social enterprise, a personal assistant programme to
meet the needs of older people, initially in BD5. This would give a
further service in addition to the preventative services we already
offer to older people locally. We are currently in the business planning
phase and part of the reason for my attendance yesterday was to try to
establish relevant issues relating to our proposed business. One issue
which was raised by other attendees yesterday was Bradford Council's
ability to respond to identified needs, carry out assessments and make
it possible for providers to access funds necessary to provide the
services. Some of the discussions in one of the groups worried me,
regarding a backlog in administration relation to personal budgets. It
was stated that the current situation is that clients are assessed then
given the Council's internal care package. Then, because of an
administrative backlog, they are referred to an agency for approx 4
months. At the end of that time they are probably settled with their
service and will not want to move to another provider.

This seems to negate against us setting up a substantial business
involving personalisation.

Have I got this right? I would appreciate any info from people who are
already involved with this issue, it may help me to decide whether this
is a 'dealbreaker' or not.

Thanks. Mick.


 
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Rob Greenland  
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 More options May 12 2011, 6:14 am
From: Rob Greenland <r...@socialbusinessconsulting.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:14:58 +0100
Local: Thurs, May 12 2011 6:14 am
Subject: Re: Delays in Assessments

Hi Mick

we've certainly heard that anecdotally.  And yes, I think you'd be  
right to be concerned about whether many people will move to a new  
package of support once they've become accustomed to a more  
traditional package of support.

I'll raise this with Andrew and Helen at the Council to see if they  
know more.  If anyone else has any further info please add it here by  
replying to the email or emailing personalisation-made-in-bradford@googlegroups.com

Thanks
Rob
On 12 May 2011, at 11:00, Mick Binns wrote:

Rob Greenland
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Unit 15, 30-38 Dock Street
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Rob Greenland  
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 More options May 16 2011, 5:25 am
From: Rob Greenland <r...@socialbusinessconsulting.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:25:07 +0100
Local: Mon, May 16 2011 5:25 am
Subject: Re: Delays in Assessments

Hi Mick

just a note to say I passed this on to Helen Johnston at the Council  
and she is looking into it.  I'll come back to you all when I get a  
response.

Thanks

Rob
On 12 May 2011, at 11:00, Mick Binns wrote:

Rob Greenland
The Social Business
Unit 15, 30-38 Dock Street
Leeds LS10 1JF

0113 318 8685
07905 800 710

email: r...@thesocialbusiness.co.uk
web and blog:  www.thesocialbusiness.co.uk

twitter:  TheSocBiz

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WARD ERYL  
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 More options May 16 2011, 5:29 am
From: WARD ERYL <ery...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:29:47 +0100
Local: Mon, May 16 2011 5:29 am
Subject: Re: Delays in Assessments

Thanks Rob,
This is certainly what social workers in Bradford are telling me. I hear the
same from other authorities so it is not just Bradford!
Eryl

On 16 May 2011 10:25, Rob Greenland <r...@socialbusinessconsulting.co.uk>wrote:


 
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Mick Binns  
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 More options May 16 2011, 5:38 am
From: "Mick Binns" <Mick.Bi...@bradford.gov.uk>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:38:48 +0100
Local: Mon, May 16 2011 5:38 am
Subject: RE: Delays in Assessments

Thanks. I'll await Helen's comments with interest. Mick.

________________________________

From: personalisation-made-in-bradford@googlegroups.com
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WARD ERYL
Sent: 16 May 2011 10:30
To: personalisation-made-in-bradford@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delays in Assessments

Thanks Rob,

This is certainly what social workers in Bradford are telling me. I hear
the same from other authorities so it is not just Bradford!

Eryl

On 16 May 2011 10:25, Rob Greenland <r...@socialbusinessconsulting.co.uk>
wrote:

Hi Mick

just a note to say I passed this on to Helen Johnston at the Council and
she is looking into it.  I'll come back to you all when I get a
response.

Thanks

Rob

On 12 May 2011, at 11:00, Mick Binns wrote:

Hi All.  Bradford Trident are seriously examining the feasibility of
setting up a new social enterprise, a personal assistant programme to
meet the needs of older people, initially in BD5. This would give a
further service in addition to the preventative services we already
offer to older people locally. We are currently in the business planning
phase and part of the reason for my attendance yesterday was to try to
establish relevant issues relating to our proposed business. One issue
which was raised by other attendees yesterday was Bradford Council's
ability to respond to identified needs, carry out assessments and make
it possible for providers to access funds necessary to provide the
services. Some of the discussions in one of the groups worried me,
regarding a backlog in administration relation to personal budgets. It
was stated that the current situation is that clients are assessed then
given the Council's internal care package. Then, because of an
administrative backlog, they are referred to an agency for approx 4
months. At the end of that time they are probably settled with their
service and will not want to move to another provider.

This seems to negate against us setting up a substantial business
involving personalisation.

Have I got this right? I would appreciate any info from people who are
already involved with this issue, it may help me to decide whether this
is a 'dealbreaker' or not.

Thanks. Mick.

Rob Greenland

The Social Business

Unit 15, 30-38 Dock Street

Leeds LS10 1JF

0113 318 8685

07905 800 710

email: r...@thesocialbusiness.co.uk

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<http://thesocialbusiness.typepad.com/the_social_business/>

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