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  <title>Smoke [5.11.3] v5.11.3-34-gf099890 FAIL(XF) openbsd 4.6 (i386/1 cpu)</title>
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  Automated smoke report for 5.11.3 patch f09989092a6586d2bb4173c4c08882 afef55b70f v5.11.3-34-gf099890 &lt;br&gt; p5openbsd: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (&amp;quot;AuthenticAMD&amp;quot; 686-class, 256KB L2 cache) (909 MHz) (i386/1 cpu) &lt;br&gt; on openbsd - 4.6 &lt;br&gt; using cc version 3.3.5 (propolice) &lt;br&gt; smoketime 14 hours 57 minutes (average 1 hour 52 minutes)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:20:38 UT
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  <title>Smoke [5.11.3] v5.11.3-36-gdf17c88 FAIL(F) openvms V8.3-1H1 (IA64/2 cpu)</title>
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  Automated smoke report for 5.11.3 patch df17c887edae24b6fb41930323837b 575d27a7df v5.11.3-36-gdf17c88 &lt;br&gt; ALMA: HP rx2600 (1.50GHz/6.0MB) (IA64/2 cpu) &lt;br&gt; on openvms - V8.3-1H1 &lt;br&gt; using ? CC/DECC version 70390018 &lt;br&gt; smoketime 5 hours 11 minutes (average 2 hours 35 minutes) &lt;br&gt; Summary: FAIL(F) &lt;br&gt; O = OK F = Failure(s), extended report at the bottom
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  <title>Smoke [5.11.3] v5.11.3-34-gf099890 FAIL(XF) netbsd 5.0.1 (i386/1 cpu)</title>
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  Automated smoke report for 5.11.3 patch f09989092a6586d2bb4173c4c08882 afef55b70f v5.11.3-34-gf099890 &lt;br&gt; p5netbsd: Intel 686-class (i386/1 cpu) &lt;br&gt; on netbsd - 5.0.1 &lt;br&gt; using cc version 4.1.3 20080704 prerelease (NetBSD nb2 20081120) &lt;br&gt; smoketime 6 hours 35 minutes (average 49 minutes 26 seconds)
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  s...@refcnt.org
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  <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:32:08 UT
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  <title>Smoke [5.11.3] v5.11.3-34-gf099890 FAIL(F) MSWin32 WinXP/.Net SP3 (x86/2 cpu)</title>
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  Automated smoke report for 5.11.3 patch f09989092a6586d2bb4173c4c08882 afef55b70f v5.11.3-34-gf099890 &lt;br&gt; maldoror.bath.planit.group: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66GHz(~2660 MHz) (x86/2 cpu) &lt;br&gt; on MSWin32 - WinXP/.Net SP3 &lt;br&gt; using cl version 12.00.8804 &lt;br&gt; smoketime 5 hours 42 minutes (average 42 minutes 47 seconds)
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  (Steve Hay)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:18:00 UT
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  <title>Re: warding against bytes.pm</title>
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  I have no problem with doing it that way. &lt;br&gt; John &lt;br&gt; ______________________________ ________________ &lt;br&gt; This email has been scanned by Netintelligence &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.netintelligence.com/email&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  john.im...@vodafoneemail.co.uk
  (John)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:07:32 UT
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  <title>Re: warding against bytes.pm</title>
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  I think this is idealistic. In my opinion, it&#39;s not practical to use Perl&#39;s &lt;br&gt; Unicode tools without understanding the implementation down to the C &lt;br&gt; representation, including the SVf_UTF8 flag and how to use Devel::Peek to &lt;br&gt; snoop it. Unicode glitches are just too hard to debug without such expertise.
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  mar...@rectangular.com
  (Marvin Humphrey)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:43:47 UT
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  <title>Re: [perl #71854] 5.10.1: for-loop scoping discrepancy with local functions (local *Foo = sub {})</title>
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  Lexical variables aren&#39;t accessed via their name. Subs capture the variable &lt;br&gt; that is associated with the name when the sub is instantiated. This allows &lt;br&gt; for features such as module-scoped variables and closures. It&#39;s possible to &lt;br&gt; change the value of the variables, but it&#39;s always going to be the same &lt;br&gt; variable.
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  ikeg...@adaelis.com
  (Eric Brine)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:38:07 UT
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  <title>Re: warding against bytes.pm</title>
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  I think the problem here is that we think of characters in Perl being &lt;br&gt; in UTF-8. We need to get away from this idea and think of characters as &lt;br&gt; *CHARACTERS* they only become bytes when encoded into some other format &lt;br&gt; for transport out of the program. &lt;br&gt; So if you want to send UTF-8 to MySQL you need to take you string and
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  john.im...@vodafoneemail.co.uk
  (John)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:56:42 UT
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  <title>[perl #71854] 5.10.1: for-loop scoping discrepancy with local functions (local *Foo = sub {})</title>
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  DESCRIPTION &lt;br&gt; If variable is defined before sub, the $file variable should be seen. It &lt;br&gt; apperas that for-loop somehow alters the scope, although the loop &lt;br&gt; variable is defined *before* the for-loop. &lt;br&gt; TEST RESULTS &lt;br&gt; The $FILE variable, when assigned is seen in sub. &lt;br&gt; The $file variable, when not in for loop, when assigned is seen in sub.
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  perlbug-follo...@perl.org
  (Jari Aalto)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:59:07 UT
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  <title>Re: warding against bytes.pm</title>
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  For that purpose, what you need to know is the number of bytes that &lt;br&gt; you&#39;ll be sending to MySQL. This depends on the characters and how &lt;br&gt; you&#39;re encoding them for communication with MySQL, *not* on how Perl &lt;br&gt; is representing them internally. See previous messages about writing &lt;br&gt; UTF-8-encoded text to a file.
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  zef...@fysh.org
  (Zefram)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:12:09 UT
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  <title>Re: warding against bytes.pm</title>
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  It is not. &lt;br&gt; A byte count can be very useful, &lt;br&gt; for example if you need to stay &lt;br&gt; within MySQL&#39;s max_allowed_packet &lt;br&gt; when creating big SQL statements. &lt;br&gt; sub bytes { &lt;br&gt; require bytes; &lt;br&gt; bytes::length($_[0]); &lt;br&gt; }
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  rvtol+use...@isolution.nl
  (&quot;Dr.Ruud&quot;)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:54:50 UT
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  <title>Re: [perl #71852] Warning &quot;/* within comment&quot; in Win32 config.h-related files</title>
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  kmx wrote: &lt;br&gt; That would miss the point of having the &amp;quot;/**/&amp;quot; at the end of the line. &lt;br&gt; The point of that is precisely so that the directive&#39;s state can be &lt;br&gt; switched by the minimal edit of adding or removing &amp;quot;/*&amp;quot; at the start. &lt;br&gt; If the &amp;quot;/* ... /**/&amp;quot; scheme is not to be used, then the inactive state &lt;br&gt; of the line should be something like
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  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:44:00 UT
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  <title>[perl #71852] Warning &quot;/* within comment&quot; in Win32 config.h-related files</title>
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  This is a bug report for perl from k...@volny.cz, &lt;br&gt; generated with the help of perlbug 1.39 running under perl 5.11.3. &lt;br&gt; ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----- &lt;br&gt; [Please describe your issue here] &lt;br&gt; Hi, &lt;br&gt; I would like to propose a cosmetic fix to some &amp;quot;config.h-related&amp;quot; files &lt;br&gt; in perl core sources mostly regarding Win32 platform.
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  perlbug-follo...@perl.org
  (kmx)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:58:52 UT
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  <title>Re: rvalue &quot;statement&quot; given blocks</title>
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  Hi David, &lt;br&gt; * David Nicol &amp;lt;davidni...@gmail.com&amp;gt; [2010-01-05 17:45]: &lt;br&gt; No. And that isn’t even plausible if you consider two facts: &lt;br&gt; • In BASIC-PLUS, where the idea came from, modifiers are freely &lt;br&gt; stackable. &lt;br&gt; • If Larry didn’t *want* the restriction, why would he decide &lt;br&gt; that Perl 6, free from concerns of an existing implementation,
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  pagalt...@gmx.de
  (Aristotle Pagaltzis)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:03:43 UT
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  Automated smoke report for 5.11.3 patch 1a64a5e6c710ac493fe0339fdf240f 512a934369 v5.11.3-26-g1a64a5e &lt;br&gt; p5openbsd: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (&amp;quot;AuthenticAMD&amp;quot; 686-class, 256KB L2 cache) (909 MHz) (i386/1 cpu) &lt;br&gt; on openbsd - 4.6 &lt;br&gt; using cc version 3.3.5 (propolice) &lt;br&gt; smoketime 14 hours 57 minutes (average 1 hour 52 minutes)
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