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bhanu chaitanya abbaraju

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Jan 10, 2013, 2:04:14 PM1/10/13
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Please help me how can I stop perl emails

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David Precious

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Jan 10, 2013, 3:13:05 PM1/10/13
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:34:14 +0530
bhanu chaitanya abbaraju <bhanu....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please help me how can I stop perl emails

"stop perl emails"?

Taking a guess that you mean you want to unsubscribe from this mailing
list, each post from the list contains the following header:

List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:beginners-...@perl.org>

Drop a blank email to that email address, and it should do the trick.

Cheers

Dave P


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klamerus

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Jan 10, 2013, 4:09:33 PM1/10/13
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Since you clearly don't know how mailing lists work I'm afraid that's not
possible.

Lou Pereira

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Jan 10, 2013, 6:36:07 PM1/10/13
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I beg to differ regarding your comment. I have been trying to be removed
from this list for over a year to no avail. So, all knowledge one, how do
we remove ourselves from this mail list?
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Kristin Nielsen

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Jan 10, 2013, 6:50:22 PM1/10/13
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Lou -

Klamerus' frustration is not completely unwarranted. I answered that question in my reply to the list - did you read it? If not, there are three steps to take - fewer if you are successful.

1. Start an email from the account with which you subscribed to the list. You MUST send your unsubscribe request from the email address by which list mail is being rec'd.
2. Send a simple blank email from the account mentioned in step #1 to beginners-...@perl.org
3. If you are not unsubscribed, please add in your requests for further help (as simply saying "it doesn't work" does not help people troubleshoot, as we all know too well):
a. the email - including headers - that you sent to beginners-...@perl.org
b. any replies you may have rec'd from the list server, especially if they contain denials or errors.

There you go.

I am, &c.,

Kristin

P. S. I take quite to heart the belittling attitude found on so many tech lists. Bad attitude doesn't work from either direction, and yes, delivery matters. This is supposed to be a cooperative educational community, is it not? Sure, we should all RTFM, but some of us who have been forced to learn-or-get-laid-off simply lack the formal training to know which term to use in our search, or even to know which PERLDOC to read, have been shamed into silence by cruel responses. I am far beyond that now, but I remember it well. Furthermore, this list contains quite a few for whom English is not a first language. I am grateful to everyone here for being on the list and helping those who come to it for assistance. We all get frustrated with simplistic or repetitive questions, and people who don't even try should be told to try first, but very little besides a bully's ego is helped by mean replies. No?

Thanks again, all of you, really.

Shawn H Corey

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Jan 10, 2013, 6:57:35 PM1/10/13
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:36:07 -0500
"Lou Pereira" <louis....@ptalc.com> wrote:

> I beg to differ regarding your comment. I have been trying to be
> removed from this list for over a year to no avail. So, all
> knowledge one, how do we remove ourselves from this mail list?

Send a email to: beginners-...@perl.org

You will get a confirmation reply. Press "Reply" and "Send". You will
get a final message saying good-bye.

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Andy Bach

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Jan 10, 2013, 7:17:20 PM1/10/13
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Send a email to: beginners-...@perl.org

You will get a confirmation reply. Press "Reply" and "Send". You will get a
final message saying good-bye.

Sometimes the address can be tricky - the FAQ
http://learn.perl.org/faq/beginners.html
says:
Send mail to <beginners-...@perl.org>, and wait for a response.
Once you reply to the response, you'll be unsubscribed. If that doesn't
work, find the email address which you are subscribed from and send an
email like the following (let's assume your email is f...@bar.com):

<beginners-unsubscribe-foo=bar...@perl.org>


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Feng He

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Jan 10, 2013, 8:46:20 PM1/10/13
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every replying messages have the foot info which includes the
unsubscribing way:

Shawn H Corey

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Jan 10, 2013, 9:14:27 PM1/10/13
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Yes but if you don't send the confirmation back, you don't get
unsubscribed.

Lou Pereira

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Jan 11, 2013, 6:23:47 AM1/11/13
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For the past year I have exhausted all options of e-mail format to opt out,
including your recommendations to no avail. I must say that over 10 years
I have been involved with different e-mail lists and tech groups, but never
had such as poor service as this group. Any other ideas would be
appreciated?


Regards;

Lou Pereira
C: (973) 670-6821
mailto:louis....@ptalc.com

Hal Wigoda

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Jan 11, 2013, 8:33:00 AM1/11/13
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Kristin Nielsen

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Jan 11, 2013, 9:13:46 AM1/11/13
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If you do not give data for troubleshooting, there is no good way to help. See step 3:

3. If you are not unsubscribed, please add in
your requests for further help (as simply saying "it doesn't work" does not
help people troubleshoot, as we all know too well):
a. the email - including headers - that you sent to
beginners-...@perl.org
b. any replies you may have rec'd from the list server, especially
if they contain denials or errors.

I am, &c.
Kristin

Sent while galavanting.

Lou Pereira

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Jan 14, 2013, 12:42:43 PM1/14/13
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OK, So I performed you step 3 again last Thursday, but I am still receiving
e-mails??? Any more suggestions?

Torqued

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Jan 14, 2013, 8:44:30 PM1/14/13
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Regards... /omps

On 14-Jan-2013, at 11:12 PM, "Lou Pereira" <louis....@ptalc.com> wrote:

> OK, So I performed you step 3 again last Thursday, but I am still receiving
> e-mails??? Any more suggestions?
>
May be the group doesn't want you to leave. ;)

Bill Stephenson

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Jan 14, 2013, 9:26:24 PM1/14/13
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Hi Lou,

You might want to make sure you're sending your email in plain text.

Check your settings, if you're using "Rich Text" or "HTML" to format the email it might screw the pooch for you. That's a real old problem, but this might be real old software running this list.

Also, I found this on the faq page for this list:

Who owns this list? Who do I complain to?
John SJ Anderson owns the beginners list. You can contact him at gene...@genehack.org.

http://learn.perl.org/faq/beginners.html#owner

Hopefully contacting them will help. If not, let us all know and I'll try and help you track down a solution to the problem.

Kindest Regards,

Bill Stephenson


Lou Pereira

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Jan 15, 2013, 6:38:13 AM1/15/13
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WOW!! I think it worked, I just received an e-mail confirming the removal of
my e-mail!! Good by everyone :)


Regards;

Bill Stephenson

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Jan 15, 2013, 2:35:31 PM1/15/13
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Check out this web app:

http://jsfiddle.net/

(Google "jsfiddle.net example" for examples of use)

It would be nice to have something like that for fiddling with perl.

I haven't really thought it through, but it might not take much to create something simple for personal use.

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Michael Dabydeen

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Jan 15, 2013, 2:44:00 PM1/15/13
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Have you had a look at http://codepad.org? I think it does something
similar.
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Jan 15, 2013, 1:55:18 PM1/15/13
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Check out IDEOne: http://ideone.com/ and CodePad (mentioned earlier)
http://codepad.org - CodePad, in my experience, suffers from a lot of
downtime, however.

Bill Stephenson

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Jan 15, 2013, 3:25:20 PM1/15/13
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> http://ideone.com/ and http://codepad.org


Those are both pretty cool. I hadn't seen either before so, Thanks!

jsFiddle lets you play with CSS, HTML, and JS, and it displays the combined output as a web page in an iframe.

It would seem that you could do all that with a perl script that used your perl code too, so you could play with all four (CSS, HTML, JS, Perl) at once.

It'd could be interesting for comparing modules and web app Frameworks like Mojolicious, Dancer, CGI::App, etc., especially if there were examples to fiddle with.

I suppose that'd really only be good for web apps, but it might be handy for learning and testing too.


Bill

Bill Stephenson

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Jan 18, 2013, 3:13:49 PM1/18/13
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When converting DMYHMS to Epoch Seconds and back I get cheated out of a day. Why?

Bill

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#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;
use warnings;
use Time::Local;

my ($time, $month, $day, $year, $seconds, $minutes, $hours, $wday, $yday, $isdst);

my $start_date = '11/30/2012';

print "$start_date \n";

($month, $day, $year) = split(/\//, $start_date);

print $time = timegm($seconds, $minutes, $hours, $day, $month-1, $year-1900);

print "\n";

($seconds, $minutes, $hours, $day, $month, $year, $wday, $yday, $isdst) = localtime($time);

$month++;

$year = ($year+1900);

print "$month/$day/$year \n";

# output:
# 11/30/2012
# 1354233600
# 11/29/2012

twl...@reagan.com

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Jan 18, 2013, 3:58:57 PM1/18/13
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Bill, it appears to have to do with it pick the time not being populated, and it picking up the date from yesterday.

I added some lines to test this theory. Try running the code below without an argument, and then with an argument.

Tim


#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;
use warnings;
use Time::Local;

my ($time, $month, $day, $year, $seconds, $minutes, $hours, $wday, $yday, $isdst);

my $start_date = '11/30/2012';

print "$start_date \n";

($month, $day, $year) = split(/\//, $start_date);

#Added this to populate the time
if (defined($ARGV[0])) {
print "Populating the time\n";
$seconds = 30;
$minutes = 30;
$hours = 11;
}

print $time = timegm($seconds, $minutes, $hours, $day, $month-1, $year-1900);

print "\n";

($seconds, $minutes, $hours, $day, $month, $year, $wday, $yday, $isdst) = localtime($time);

$month++;

$year = ($year+1900);

print "$month/$day/$year \n";

Bill

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#!/usr/bin/perl

my $start_date = '11/30/2012';

print "$start_date \n";

print "\n";

$year = ($year+1900);

print "$month/$day/$year \n";

Dominik Danter

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Jan 18, 2013, 4:04:10 PM1/18/13
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The output depends on the timezone that you have set on your machine. You can
toy around and try different ones with
$ENV{TZ} = 'Europe/Vienna'; or
$ENV{TZ} = 'America/Los_Angeles';

If you don't want to depend on the timezone use gmtime instead of localtime.

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John W. Krahn

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Jan 19, 2013, 12:10:51 AM1/19/13
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Bill Stephenson wrote:
> When converting DMYHMS to Epoch Seconds and back I get cheated out of a day. Why?
>
> Bill
>
> --
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> use strict;
> use warnings;
> use Time::Local;
>
> my ($time, $month, $day, $year, $seconds, $minutes, $hours, $wday, $yday, $isdst);
>
> my $start_date = '11/30/2012';
>
> print "$start_date \n";
>
> ($month, $day, $year) = split(/\//, $start_date);
>
> print $time = timegm($seconds, $minutes, $hours, $day, $month-1, $year-1900);
^^^^^^
******


> print "\n";
>
> ($seconds, $minutes, $hours, $day, $month, $year, $wday, $yday, $isdst) = localtime($time);

^^^^^^^^^

*********



> $month++;
>
> $year = ($year+1900);
>
> print "$month/$day/$year \n";
>
> # output:
> # 11/30/2012
> # 1354233600
> # 11/29/2012

You are using GMT for one conversion and local time for the other. Best
to use GMT for both conversions:

$ perl -le'
use strict;
use warnings;
use Time::Local;

my ( $time, $month, $day, $year, $seconds, $minutes, $hours );
my $start_date = q[11/30/2012];
print $start_date;
( $month, $day, $year ) = split /\//, $start_date;
print $time = timegm( $seconds, $minutes, $hours, $day, $month - 1,
$year - 1900 );
( $seconds, $minutes, $hours, $day, $month, $year ) = gmtime $time;
$month++;
$year += 1900;
print "$month/$day/$year";
'
11/30/2012
1354233600
11/30/2012




John
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