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Sure. We have 501(c)(3) exemption. That qualifies us for discounts, often th=
rough other 501(c)(3) organizations like PSU. Your contact for the new space=
 can provide details or suggest somebody who knows about such discounts. =20=


Sean

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Il giorno Aug 16, 2012, alle ore 15:25, benjamin barber <starwor...@gmail.co=
m> ha scritto:

> Could you clarify more on your meaning?
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> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Sean Wingert
> <sean.wing...@paperupgrade.org> wrote:
>> If having 501(c)(3) improves our chances for obtaining the space or lower=
ing the monthly rent, let's use the Paper Upgrade's existing status to move f=
orward.
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>> Sean
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>> Inviato da iPhone
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>> Il giorno Aug 13, 2012, alle ore 23:58, barberb <starwor...@gmail.com> ha=
 scritto:
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>>> I'm looking into renting a house a block from the Portland State Busines=
s Accelerator, there are in fact 3 houses with basements for rent on the sam=
e block. The PSBA has wetlabs and small offices for rent, should a person or=
 persons wish to set up shop, and is tightly connected to school resources a=
nd talent.
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>>> Do you like your location and rent, and if not what is a preferable rent=
 / location?
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>>> What are your thoughts and requirements for a space if you were to move,=
 including access control, conduct, and lease agreements?
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>>> What are your thoughts about other tenants, having the upstairs portion o=
f the house, and what requirements should be?
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>>> lastly: what's your thoughts about having some sort of out of town geek /=
 grad student hostel, if not in the same building in an adjacent building ne=
xt to it?
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>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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>>> I found out about brain silo's rental needs, when i was trying to compil=
e a public policy document for jefferson smith, about having hacker/maker sp=
aces in or next to students. Where each school would get one of (arts/crafts=
, electronic / software engineering, industrial / mechanical engineering, Bi=
o / chemistry). The school would get use of it during the day from say 8am-3=
pm, and during the evening it would be open to private use until say 3-10pm,=
 with some sort of sliding scale membership/use fees based on income level.
>>>=20
>>> Samuel Adams has put forth a school levy for $35 a person or $12m a year=
, specifically for arts and music education in schools. He is being challeng=
ed in the courts, on the reasoning that its unfair both for the subject matt=
er and irrespective to income. I would like to make the case that the case f=
or this idea, as both a cost effective solution for training children for th=
e new economy, and that 'productivity should not be tied to employment'.
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>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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>>> Incidentally I've done research into the city's plan for this area, and i=
t looks like they have ideas for it around 2016-2020, to make it a bike/pede=
strian corridor. However there is also the need for affordable student livin=
g, and denser job opportunities in the area as well. I informed the property=
 owners that the will likely be forced into one of 2 options. 1) form a part=
nership with a developer and financier and do a capital for stock trade alon=
g with dividends with city input for the planning 2) the city will take the p=
roperty through imminent domain by ODOT citing the need for more road space,=
 which will spend as little for property with mortgages already underwater a=
nd will to fight in court, which they will then give to the city and subsequ=
ently sell to a private developer to build upon at a higher price (like my e=
xperience living in sw 5th and college). It is of my opinion that if I/We wo=
rk with the city and property owners on this, that there is a chance that we=
 could turn this into an opportunity to build something great, say college h=
ousing with a nonprofit hackerspace built into it.
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>>>=20
>>> Here is a debate that we had today, for which i was doing the preparatio=
ns for, and tried to contact you all this last weekend about.
>>> http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-29027-dd_hackathons_and_bu.html
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>>> On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:30:10 PM UTC-7, sleepy nate wrote:
>>>> Uninvited input from out east:
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>>>> We at All Hands Active are currently fiscally sponsored by School Facto=
ry and it's been a swell deal so far. James & Willow <3
>>>> We're also working on our f1023 filing, and apparently having an existi=
ng fiscal sponsorship is good news for that. We've not gotten any corporate g=
rants but have had moderately sized grants from local foundations that have g=
one through SF with no problem.
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>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Lokkju Brennr <lok...@gmail.com> wrote=
:
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>>>> Nope, nothing yet.
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>>>> At the moment, I'm working on getting the other board members on board
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>>>> with accepting fiscal sponsorship from the School Factory's Space
>>>>=20
>>>> Federation.  This would allow us to receive donations as if we were a
>>>>=20
>>>> 501(c)(3) - including, I believe, the Intel matching grants.
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>>>> Loki
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>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Sean Wingert
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>>>> <sean.w...@paperupgrade.org> wrote:
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>>>>> Locki,
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>>>>> Any word on definite increase or relocation plans?
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>>>>> Sean
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>>>>> Il giorno Jun 26, 2012, alle ore 19:29, Noor <noororber....@gmail.com>=
 ha scritto:
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>>>>>> Personal tutoring for rich kids. Ask for a certain percentage donatio=
n to use space. Iffy for non-profit status, but theres got to be a couple NW=
 customers and interested student instructors.. You'd need to implement a sp=
ace calendar, and the matching problem boggles a bit. Who the fuck wants to d=
o that!
>>>>=20
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>>>>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 12:51:43 PM UTC-7, Loki wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>>>> All,
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>>>>>>> I've been told that the rent on BrainSilo will "most likely" be goin=
g
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>>>>>>> up about $100/month - this would increase our rent from $545 to $650=

>>>>=20
>>>>>>> per month.
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>>>>>>> Right now, only about $200 of the rent is being covered by donations=

>>>>=20
>>>>>>> or membership, and myself and sometimes a couple other people make u=
p
>>>>=20
>>>>>>> the rest as needed.  With an increase in the rent, I won't be able t=
o
>>>>=20
>>>>>>> cover the excess anymore (not that I really should be doing it all t=
he
>>>>=20
>>>>>>> time, anyway).
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>>>>>>> I'm looking for any suggestions for possible sponsors or other sourc=
es
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>>>>>>> of revenue that we could get in place quickly.  I'm not really
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>>>>>>> hopeful, but I'm putting this out there so that if any of you have
>>>>=20
>>>>>>> ideas, you can let me know.
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>>>>>>>=20
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>>>>>>> At this point, with both the ongoing lack of interest in the space a=
nd
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>>>>>>> the rent increase, if we do not find another way to fund the space,
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>>>>>>> we're going to lose it.
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>>>>>>> Loki
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