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Subject: Re: [PDXHS] Re: BrainSilo rent is going up... what do we want to
do?
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Erm,
Considering that my second favorite thing in the space is the 4" table saw
without
a single safety feature, and that my first would be the capacitor coil that
a 9V battery
can cause to spot weld thick copper wire, I don't really think it's 'if' we
do anything
potentially hazardous, but 'when'. Though even if the space were to move,
(which I've
been totally out of the loop on mind you), it'd be much more likely to move
with adequate
funding, or, as lokkju has previously stated, go into deep hibernation
until someone
opens the next iteration, in something like Fe Ward's location at 7 NE
Oregon St <http://goo.gl/maps/Wu3oS>, which
is being used as nothing but a parking spot afaik. Furthermore, no one from
Brainsilo
would purport to make themselves legally liable for the actions of
visitors.
That's just scary.
Other than that, stuff.
-BitAssassin
On Friday, August 17, 2012 1:04:44 AM UTC, barberb wrote:
>
> He spoke to me and indicated that it would be okay, but if your doing
> anything that could be potentially hazardous, that you will need
> liability insurance. Furthermore someone from the org would have to be
> a co-signer, because its impossible to recover damages to the property
> from a 501c3 organization.
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:33 PM, benjamin barber <starw...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> wrote:
> > I dont know, we would have to talk to the homeowner. if it were up to
> > me I would ask for $550 a month, which is 2200 split 4 ways, which
> > means 2 couples in each of the large upstairs rooms and a singleton in
> > the regular sized main level room get to use the garage. Then Myself
> > and hopefully two other males (hoping they're both geeks), would pay
> > $40 membership dues to brain silo, which would reduce the effective
> > rent to $430 (or $420 to be cute).
> >
> > The property is listed as zoned residental/commercial BTW.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Sean Wingert
> > <sean.w...@paperupgrade.org <javascript:>> wrote:
> >> Any idea when we'll know the monthly rent difference or if we already
> know approximately?
> >>
> >> Sean
> >>
> >> Inviato da iPhone
> >>
> >> Il giorno Aug 16, 2012, alle ore 16:11, Lokkju Brennr <lok...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> It would be the same if it went through our fiscal sponsor - the
> >>> benefit goes to School Factory, which then provides it to us.
> >>>
> >>> Loki
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Sean Wingert
> >>> <sean.w...@paperupgrade.org <javascript:>> wrote:
> >>>> Sure. We have 501(c)(3) exemption. That qualifies us for discounts,
> often through other 501(c)(3) organizations like PSU. Your contact for the
> new space can provide details or suggest somebody who knows about such
> discounts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sean
> >>>>
> >>>> Inviato da iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>> Il giorno Aug 16, 2012, alle ore 15:25, benjamin barber <
> starw...@gmail.com <javascript:>> ha scritto:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Could you clarify more on your meaning?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Sean Wingert
> >>>>> <sean.w...@paperupgrade.org <javascript:>> wrote:
> >>>>>> If having 501(c)(3) improves our chances for obtaining the space or
> lowering the monthly rent, let's use the Paper Upgrade's existing status to
> move forward.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sean
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Inviato da iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Il giorno Aug 13, 2012, alle ore 23:58, barberb <starw...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> ha scritto:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm looking into renting a house a block from the Portland State
> Business Accelerator, there are in fact 3 houses with basements for rent on
> the same block. The PSBA has wetlabs and small offices for rent, should a
> person or persons wish to set up shop, and is tightly connected to school
> resources and talent.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do you like your location and rent, and if not what is a
> preferable rent / location?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What are your thoughts and requirements for a space if you were to
> move, including access control, conduct, and lease agreements?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What are your thoughts about other tenants, having the upstairs
> portion of the house, and what requirements should be?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> lastly: what's your thoughts about having some sort of out of town
> geek / grad student hostel, if not in the same building in an adjacent
> building next to it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I found out about brain silo's rental needs, when i was trying to
> compile a public policy document for jefferson smith, about having
> hacker/maker spaces in or next to students. Where each school would get one
> of (arts/crafts, electronic / software engineering, industrial / mechanical
> engineering, Bio / chemistry). The school would get use of it during the
> day from say 8am-3pm, and during the evening it would be open to private
> use until say 3-10pm, with some sort of sliding scale membership/use fees
> based on income level.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Samuel Adams has put forth a school levy for $35 a person or $12m
> a year, specifically for arts and music education in schools. He is being
> challenged in the courts, on the reasoning that its unfair both for the
> subject matter and irrespective to income. I would like to make the case
> that the case for this idea, as both a cost effective solution for training
> children for the new economy, and that 'productivity should not be tied to
> employment'.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Incidentally I've done research into the city's plan for this
> area, and it looks like they have ideas for it around 2016-2020, to make it
> a bike/pedestrian corridor. However there is also the need for affordable
> student living, and denser job opportunities in the area as well. I
> informed the property owners that the will likely be forced into one of 2
> options. 1) form a partnership with a developer and financier and do a
> capital for stock trade along with dividends with city input for the
> planning 2) the city will take the property through imminent domain by ODOT
> citing the need for more road space, which will spend as little for
> property with mortgages already underwater and will to fight in court,
> which they will then give to the city and subsequently sell to a private
> developer to build upon at a higher price (like my experience living in sw
> 5th and college). It is of my opinion that if I/We work with the city and
> property owners on this, that there is a chance that we could turn this
> into an opportunity to build something great, say college housing with a
> nonprofit hackerspace built into it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here is a debate that we had today, for which i was doing the
> preparations for, and tried to contact you all this last weekend about.
> >>>>>>> http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-29027-dd_hackathons_and_bu.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:30:10 PM UTC-7, sleepy nate wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Uninvited input from out east:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We at All Hands Active are currently fiscally sponsored by School
> Factory and it's been a swell deal so far. James & Willow <3
> >>>>>>>> We're also working on our f1023 filing, and apparently having an
> existing fiscal sponsorship is good news for that. We've not gotten any
> corporate grants but have had moderately sized grants from local
> foundations that have gone through SF with no problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Lokkju Brennr <lok...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nope, nothing yet.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> At the moment, I'm working on getting the other board members on
> board
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> with accepting fiscal sponsorship from the School Factory's Space
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Federation. This would allow us to receive donations as if we
> were a
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 501(c)(3) - including, I believe, the Intel matching grants.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Loki
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Sean Wingert
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <sean.w...@paperupgrade.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Locki,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any word on definite increase or relocation plans?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sean
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Il giorno Jun 26, 2012, alle ore 19:29, Noor <
> noororber....@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Personal tutoring for rich kids. Ask for a certain percentage
> donation to use space. Iffy for non-profit status, but theres got to be a
> couple NW customers and interested student instructors.. You'd need to
> implement a space calendar, and the matching problem boggles a bit. Who the
> fuck wants to do that!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 12:51:43 PM UTC-7, Loki wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> All,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I've been told that the rent on BrainSilo will "most likely"
> be going
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> up about $100/month - this would increase our rent from $545
> to $650
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> per month.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Right now, only about $200 of the rent is being covered by
> donations
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> or membership, and myself and sometimes a couple other people
> make up
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the rest as needed. With an increase in the rent, I won't be
> able to
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> cover the excess anymore (not that I really should be doing it
> all the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> time, anyway).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking for any suggestions for possible sponsors or other
> sources
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> of revenue that we could get in place quickly. I'm not really
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> hopeful, but I'm putting this out there so that if any of you
> have
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ideas, you can let me know.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> At this point, with both the ongoing lack of interest in the
> space and
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the rent increase, if we do not find another way to fund the
> space,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> we're going to lose it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Loki
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
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Erm,<br> Considering that my second favorite thing in the space is the=
4" table saw without<br>a single safety feature, and that my first would b=
e the capacitor coil that a 9V battery<br>can cause to spot weld thick copp=
er wire, I don't really think it's 'if' we do anything<br>potentially hazar=
dous, but 'when'. Though even if the space were to move, (which I've<br>bee=
n totally out of the loop on mind you), it'd be much more likely to move wi=
th adequate<br>funding, or, as lokkju has previously stated, go into deep h=
ibernation until someone<br>opens the next iteration, in something like Fe =
Ward's location at <a href=3D"http://goo.gl/maps/Wu3oS">7 NE Oregon St</a>,=
which<br>is being used as nothing but a parking spot afaik. Furthermore, n=
o one from Brainsilo<br>would purport to make themselves legally liable for=
the actions of visitors. <br>That's just scary.<br><br>Other than that, st=
uff.<br><br>-BitAssassin<br><br>On Friday, August 17, 2012 1:04:44 AM UTC, =
barberb wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-l=
eft: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">He spoke to me a=
nd indicated that it would be okay, but if your doing
<br>anything that could be potentially hazardous, that you will need
<br>liability insurance. Furthermore someone from the org would have to be
<br>a co-signer, because its impossible to recover damages to the property
<br>from a 501c3 organization.
<br>
<br>On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:33 PM, benjamin barber <<a href=3D"javascr=
ipt:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"rgXJJMU5rncJ">starw...@gma=
il.com</a>> wrote:
<br>> I dont know, we would have to talk to the homeowner. if it were up=
to
<br>> me I would ask for $550 a month, which is 2200 split 4 ways, which
<br>> means 2 couples in each of the large upstairs rooms and a singleto=
n in
<br>> the regular sized main level room get to use the garage. Then Myse=
lf
<br>> and hopefully two other males (hoping they're both geeks), would p=
ay
<br>> $40 membership dues to brain silo, which would reduce the effectiv=
e
<br>> rent to $430 (or $420 to be cute).
<br>>
<br>> The property is listed as zoned residental/commercial BTW.
<br>>
<br>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Sean Wingert
<br>> <<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailt=
o=3D"rgXJJMU5rncJ">sean.w...@paperupgrade.org</a><wbr>> wrote:
<br>>> Any idea when we'll know the monthly rent difference or if we =
already know approximately?
<br>>>
<br>>> Sean
<br>>>
<br>>> Inviato da iPhone
<br>>>
<br>>> Il giorno Aug 16, 2012, alle ore 16:11, Lokkju Brennr <<a h=
ref=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"rgXJJMU5rncJ=
">lok...@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:
<br>>>
<br>>>> It would be the same if it went through our fiscal sponsor=
- the
<br>>>> benefit goes to School Factory, which then provides it to =
us.
<br>>>>
<br>>>> Loki
<br>>>>
<br>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Sean Wingert
<br>>>> <<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscat=
ed-mailto=3D"rgXJJMU5rncJ">sean.w...@paperupgrade.org</a><wbr>> wrote:
<br>>>>> Sure. We have 501(c)(3) exemption. That qualifies us f=
or discounts, often through other 501(c)(3) organizations like PSU. Your co=
ntact for the new space can provide details or suggest somebody who knows a=
bout such discounts.
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> Sean
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> Inviato da iPhone
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> Il giorno Aug 16, 2012, alle ore 15:25, benjamin barbe=
r <<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"rg=
XJJMU5rncJ">starw...@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>>> Could you clarify more on your meaning?
<br>>>>>>
<br>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Sean Wingert
<br>>>>>> <<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-=
obfuscated-mailto=3D"rgXJJMU5rncJ">sean.w...@paperupgrade.org</a><wbr>> =
wrote:
<br>>>>>>> If having 501(c)(3) improves our chances for o=
btaining the space or lowering the monthly rent, let's use the Paper Upgrad=
e's existing status to move forward.
<br>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>> Sean
<br>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>> Inviato da iPhone
<br>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>> Il giorno Aug 13, 2012, alle ore 23:58, barber=
b <<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"rg=
XJJMU5rncJ">starw...@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:
<br>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> I'm looking into renting a house a block f=
rom the Portland State Business Accelerator, there are in fact 3 houses wit=
h basements for rent on the same block. The PSBA has wetlabs and small offi=
ces for rent, should a person or persons wish to set up shop, and is tightl=
y connected to school resources and talent.
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> Do you like your location and rent, and if=
not what is a preferable rent / location?
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> What are your thoughts and requirements fo=
r a space if you were to move, including access control, conduct, and lease=
agreements?
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> What are your thoughts about other tenants=
, having the upstairs portion of the house, and what requirements should be=
?
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> lastly: what's your thoughts about having =
some sort of out of town geek / grad student hostel, if not in the same bui=
lding in an adjacent building next to it?
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> ------------------------------<wbr>-------=
-----------------------<wbr>-------------------
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> I found out about brain silo's rental need=
s, when i was trying to compile a public policy document for jefferson smit=
h, about having hacker/maker spaces in or next to students. Where each scho=
ol would get one of (arts/crafts, electronic / software engineering, indust=
rial / mechanical engineering, Bio / chemistry). The school would get use o=
f it during the day from say 8am-3pm, and during the evening it would be op=
en to private use until say 3-10pm, with some sort of sliding scale members=
hip/use fees based on income level.
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> Samuel Adams has put forth a school levy f=
or $35 a person or $12m a year, specifically for arts and music education i=
n schools. He is being challenged in the courts, on the reasoning that its =
unfair both for the subject matter and irrespective to income. I would like=
to make the case that the case for this idea, as both a cost effective sol=
ution for training children for the new economy, and that 'productivity sho=
uld not be tied to employment'.
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> ------------------------------<wbr>-------=
-----------------------<wbr>-------------------
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> Incidentally I've done research into the c=
ity's plan for this area, and it looks like they have ideas for it around 2=
016-2020, to make it a bike/pedestrian corridor. However there is also the =
need for affordable student living, and denser job opportunities in the are=
a as well. I informed the property owners that the will likely be forced in=
to one of 2 options. 1) form a partnership with a developer and financier a=
nd do a capital for stock trade along with dividends with city input for th=
e planning 2) the city will take the property through imminent domain by OD=
OT citing the need for more road space, which will spend as little for prop=
erty with mortgages already underwater and will to fight in court, which th=
ey will then give to the city and subsequently sell to a private developer =
to build upon at a higher price (like my experience living in sw 5th and co=
llege). It is of my opinion that if I/We work with the city and property ow=
ners on this, that there is a chance that we could turn this into an opport=
unity to build something great, say college housing with a nonprofit hacker=
space built into it.
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> Here is a debate that we had today, for wh=
ich i was doing the preparations for, and tried to contact you all this las=
t weekend about.
<br>>>>>>>> <a href=3D"http://www.wweek.com/portland/b=
log-29027-dd_hackathons_and_bu.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.wweek.com=
/portland/<wbr>blog-29027-dd_hackathons_and_<wbr>bu.html</a>
<br>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:30:10 PM UTC=
-7, sleepy nate wrote:
<br>>>>>>>>> Uninvited input from out east:
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> We at All Hands Active are currently f=
iscally sponsored by School Factory and it's been a swell deal so far. Jame=
s & Willow <3
<br>>>>>>>>> We're also working on our f1023 filing=
, and apparently having an existing fiscal sponsorship is good news for tha=
t. We've not gotten any corporate grants but have had moderately sized gran=
ts from local foundations that have gone through SF with no problem.
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Lokkj=
u Brennr <<a>lok...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> Nope, nothing yet.
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> At the moment, I'm working on getting =
the other board members on board
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> with accepting fiscal sponsorship from=
the School Factory's Space
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> Federation. This would allow us =
to receive donations as if we were a
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> 501(c)(3) - including, I believe, the =
Intel matching grants.
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> Loki
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Sean =
Wingert
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>> <<a>sean.w...@paperupgrade.org</a>&=
gt; wrote:
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>> Locki,
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>> Any word on definite increase or r=
elocation plans?
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>> Sean
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno Jun 26, 2012, alle ore 1=
9:29, Noor <<a>noororber....@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>> Personal tutoring for rich kid=
s. Ask for a certain percentage donation to use space. Iffy for non-profit =
status, but theres got to be a couple NW customers and interested student i=
nstructors.. You'd need to implement a space calendar, and the matching pro=
blem boggles a bit. Who the fuck wants to do that!
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 12:51=
:43 PM UTC-7, Loki wrote:
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been told that the re=
nt on BrainSilo will "most likely" be going
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> up about $100/month - this=
would increase our rent from $545 to $650
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> per month.
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, only about $200=
of the rent is being covered by donations
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> or membership, and myself =
and sometimes a couple other people make up
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest as needed. =
With an increase in the rent, I won't be able to
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> cover the excess anymore (=
not that I really should be doing it all the
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> time, anyway).
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking for any sugges=
tions for possible sponsors or other sources
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> of revenue that we could g=
et in place quickly. I'm not really
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> hopeful, but I'm putting t=
his out there so that if any of you have
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas, you can let me know=
.
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> At this point, with both t=
he ongoing lack of interest in the space and
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> the rent increase, if we d=
o not find another way to fund the space,
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> we're going to lose it.
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Loki
<br>>>>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>>>>>>
<br></blockquote>
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