PDX-visualization plans to meet for the first time sometime in the next
2 weeks(according to what I hear from Ed). I think the current plan is
to meet at OTBC since a number of us live on the west side.
The things we plan to cover are pretty much a superset of what looks to
be your interest. A couple of folks on this list are already working on
some cool visualizations very similar to some of your examples.
Some topics thrown about recently have been R, flare,flex, processing,
math for viz, ubiety, uuworld and papervision.
Why don't you come to our first meeting and see if it meets your needs?
Webtrends sounds like an interesting place to meet.
--Cheers
--Ragav
P.S Ed/Micah have we decided on place and time as yet?
[snip]
> It is because of all of these things, and what I feel is becoming an
> essential next step in the development of trend prediction and the very
> useful implementation of data and information, that I want to start having
> some meetings around this sort of thing. By that, I mean that I would like
> to meet fairly soon -- I'm thinking Monday, March 23rd 2009 at WebTrends.
> 6Pm-8Pm (or however long it takes to share ideas/visuals/tools ect).
Yes ... we've been talking about a physical meetup since Micah
proposed expanding this group from an R programmers' study group to a
data visualization study group. And we had pretty much decided to make
it one Monday a month. So Monday March 23rd is fine, and I'll let the
rest of the group comment on the place. Our initial shot was OTBC,
which is at the Beaverton Central MAX station, but we know eventually
we are going to outgrow that space, so if we can start somewhere
bigger, that's fine. Anybody have any strong objections to WebTrends
at 6 PM as opposed to OTBC at 7PM??
> The meetup will probably be pretty interesting, considering
> the inherently cool-looking nature of some of the more recent visuals that
> have emerged from the primordial goo of real time data tracking. Plus,
> there's a whole batch of past data viz that should be looked at -- both for
> the sheer insight that those examples may present, and for the different
> ways in which data can be presented. We're dealing with a rapid
> communication method here. Something that, if done well, compresses the time
> and space it takes for us to understand something.
How many here have read Tufte's books? I must confess I've always
wanted to take the class and I *own* the books but have never actually
read them. :( My background is in *scientific* and statistical
visualization and exploratory data analysis. I do just about
everything in R to the exclusion of many other fine tools, and I've
worked most recently in visualization of computer performance data. In
that particular field, we have well-defined mathematical models, so
there isn't all that much "exploration" that needs to be done.
[snip]
> The Current State of Data Visualization
> Right now, data visualization at the mass level is somewhat 'cute'. That is,
> we saw a great deal of it surrounding the election. We see a lot of buzz
> when someone has mapped out data in a pretty way -- but many cannot use this
> data. Although it is presented in a visually attractive way, it is not very
> useful. The creation of use value through using data in new ways is going to
> make things very interesting.
I'm always looking for ways to create value. In today's economy, you
really can't take value away from someone else without a *huge*
battle, so you have to create it. :)
[snip]
> Meeting Time (Tentative March 23rd, 2009 - 6 Pm).
> Monday or Tuesday evening - March 23rd or 24th. Monday evening runs into
> PDXCritique at Cubespace, which runs from 7-9Pm, and it does not yet look
> like anything is scheduled for Tuesday the 24th of March. If you have a
> conflict with either of these days or can suggest a better day (as long as
> it is not Wednesday) please let me know. Those who I have talked to so far
> have suggested Monday night as the best day for them.
We are all pretty much fine with Monday, I think. I checked Calagator
and the only conflict was PDX Critique. Are there people in that group
who would want to join us? Anybody object to Monday, 23 March?
> Meeting Places
> There are a few places available for our use.
> 1. The 16th floor of WebTrends, which is located only a few blocks away from
> Pioneer Square in downtown Portland. It is reachable by MAX or bus, and
> there is free parking available in a nearby garage for users of the
> WebTrends space. The accommodations at the space are very good. I visited
> the space Thursday to talk with Jascha Kayka-Wolff and view the location .
> Besides a nice view, there are two classrooms -- one with 16 a computers and
> a projector (capacity ~30), and one with 30 chairs and a projector - no
> computers -- good for presentation. There's also a kitchen area with a very
> large screen and a much larger capacity. In the past, I attended a Web
> Analytics Wednesday meetup there, and it worked out very well. This is the
> one I am leaning towards for the first meeting.
Sounds good to me. My main criteria for a meeting space are
1. Free or they let us use it if we buy food and beverages
2. *Quiet*! So -- not PDX Green Dragon from 4 - 6 PM Fridays. :)
3. Accessible from Tri-Met, preferably walking distance from the MAX
> 2. The Art Institute. Bram tells me that there is a very large screen there,
> which might be useful for presenting some of the more intense data viz
> models. However, I am not yet sure of the capacity and hours that we can be
> there. Art Institute is nearby Powell's books -- one block away in the Pearl
> District. Also very convenient -- but without the parking.
I'd pick WebTrends over this one.
> 3. CubeSpace. We can use CubeSpace if we want to. However, it might be
> interesting to try out a new place. According to Calagator, PDXCritique
> occurs March 23rd, Monday night, so we would not have acess to the main room
> if we had the meeting on that Monday. I'll be at SXSW the week before and
> won't be able to meet until that Monday.
Most of the *current* members are in the Beaverton area, which is why
our initial thought was to meet at OTBC. But if we can secure
WebTrends on a recurring basis, I don't have a problem with that. For
those in Beaverton, one gets to CubeSpace by taking MAX to Goose
Hollow, walking over to the bus stop, getting on the #6 and getting
off at Alder and Grand. It's a pretty easy trip unless you have to
stand out in the pouring rain waiting for the #6. :)
So:
1. What does everyone else think about 23 March, 6 - 8 PM at
WebTrends? Fourth Monday of every month on a recurring basis?
2. Our initial plan for the first meeting was to have a working
session with everyone's laptops and R, with me providing the
assistance for people getting started. Then in succeeding months,
other people were going to do the same for their favorite tools. I
think Micah was going to take Python, and somebody was going to dig
into the Processing language.
If we still want to do the R thing for the first meeting, let me know
as soon as possible so I can start putting the stuff together. But if
we want to have a more general first meeting, I don't mind putting the
R part off to another meeting. And if you have experience with InFlow
and NeoFormix, I'd love to have meetings devoted to them.
3. If you have ideas for other people to invite, please let me know
and feel free to invite them, as long as we have a big enough space.
:) IMHO data visualization is a solution looking for a problem, so I'd
love to meet people with hard problems to solve.
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
http://www.linkedin.com/in/edborasky
I've never met a happy clam. In fact, most of them were pretty steamed.
Monday night in general works for me but Monday 23rd doesn't. I'm out of
town March 17 - 23rd and I'd like to attend. 24th is fine.
However if I'm the only one who has a scheduling conflict that day ..
please go ahead without me.
--Cheers
--Ragav
> I'm thinking Monday, March 23rd 2009 at WebTrends.
> 6Pm-8Pm (or however long it takes to share ideas/visuals/tools ect).
I can do that date/time. Ed may have mentioned it's pretty
tricky finding a recurring date in this city without an
interesting group already using it. OTBC is easiest for me, but
I don't mind going downtown either. Whatever will enable the
most people to be there.
> Predicting Flu Trends
> Using his 20% time, a Google employee discovered that during
> flu season, many ailing Americans enter phrases like “flu
> symptoms” into Google and other search engines before they call
> their doctors. When he mapped this data, he was able to
> discover where flu outbreaks would strike up to two weeks
> before traditional news sources were able to report them.
Amber -- I think most people on this list already know what I
(and some others) are working on with uGraph (a very early PDX
startup). It's got a lot of overlap with GFlu (but we think it's
quite a bit better). I'd be happy to present our progress and
ideas (briefly) at a group meeting if it's interesting to enough
of the group. If others are getting tired of hearing about it,
I'd be happy to meet with you (and others) outside the meeting,
say over coffee, to tell you more. Sorry to be soliciting
to you on the list; we're still in the process of pushing our
idea around town to see who's interested in getting involved.
> This is an example of a a time when merging a specific type of
> data to its geographical coordinates resulted in a unique
> insight. However, there is much more to do with data and
> visualization. What was found at Google is only the tip of a
> very large iceberg.
I'd love to hear of any other vis ideas people are having
about some new data that is emerging. That could be a
brainstorming session on its own.
--
@MicahElliott | m...@MicahElliott.com | http://MicahElliott.com
Sent from: Beaverton OR United States.
Thanks!! I'll buy my MAX tickets. :)
> Micah, Ed -- I like the idea of a free form meeting. GGobi demo and
> uGraph and pet projects. Then we can go from there. I'm very
> interested in seeing what everyone is working on. A lot of people who
> appreciate data viz don't know about some of the projects that are
> going on right in Portland.
As long as we're going for WebTrends, are there other projects we know
about and people we'd like to invite? My projects are pretty
specialized (Linux input/output performance metrics).
> So, we can try out the WebTrends location for now. If it doesn't work,
> then we can go to OTBC. I'll begin posting it up on Upcoming and
> Calagator.
Thanks again!! BTW, have fun at SXSW.
Can / do we want to live stream it? Visualization strikes me as the
kind of thing that isn't going to make a lot of sense in 140-character
Twitter messages. :)
There's no reason in the world we can't have a combined DorkBotPDX -
Data Visualization meeting some time either, is there? :)
All that stuff I learned in grad school about art and science being two
sides of the same coin are coming back to haunt me. Of course, I spent
more time in the theater department than I did in math. :)
Oh definitely. And of course I'll be looking for people doing
interesting work to pilfer for a future DorkbotPDX event, too. ;~)
Well, I'm going to attempt to spread the word as much as possible.
Just sent a link to this group to the dorkbotpdx list and I'll be
mentioning it to people at our next meeting on the 16th.
Also worth mentioning is that a handful of us in PDX are attempting to
organize a CloudCampPDX (though, probably more casual and informal
than the other BarCamp type events and CloudCamps that have gone on
elsewhere). Since there is a lot of crossover from the dataviz
community to the cloud computing community, it might be of interest to
folks on this list. One of the things that gets me excited about cloud
computing is the access to resources and processing capabilities for
very large data sets. I'd love to hear some people talking about doing
heavy data crunching and visualization.
http://groups.google.com/group/cloudcamppdx
It's really still very early and at this point it's just an idea as
much as anything. I made the initial suggestion that we should do it
and started a mailing list to get things "organized" but so far we
haven't actually met in person (we attempted to meet once and aborted
it after finding out most people interested couldn't make it). I'm
probably going to attempt to get together at least a handful of people
sometime next week to begin talking about details. I've actually been
thinking about approaching the WebTrends people about using that space
now that I know about it. I'll be sure to post more here when I have
more details.
~thomas
On a mostly unrelated note, did you catch the announcement of a Rails
app that turns text into music? I don't have the link handy, but I
figured the logical next step was to continuously feed the public
Twitter timeline to it. :)
Interesting, hadn't seen that. Got a link?
P.S.: There's a whole "audio" equivalent to visualization called, of
course, "sonification". I guess we need to start another Google Group,
eh?
<ducking>
According to someone whose name I've forgotten, the main theme of
Elgar's "Enigma Variations" is in fact the first four digits of Pi --
3.141. By a fascinating coincidence, that topic is being discussed
this weekend:
https://www.oregonsymphony.com/concerts/performance.aspx?perf=0308IS409