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 More options Mar 24 2006, 6:32 pm
From: jpg...@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:32:43 -0800
Local: Fri, Mar 24 2006 6:32 pm
Subject: $$$$
Home from work for the third day in a row. . . . Last time, it cost me
about $120.00 in INTERNET shopping.  Today it's $100.00 in an almost
opened investment account, $117.00 for window tinting.  Just finished
looking at one of those online catalogs just full of stuff I'd love to
have - not that I need any of it.  Wife picked me up from window
tinting place and growled when I asked her what was (obviously) wrong.
I spent the money on the car "without consulting her," and, "the truck
needs a tune-up."  We are supposed to take a trip to Texas next week
for her nephew's marriage - that's gonna cost us $500.00 just to get
there, stay, and drive back.  Forget about the $$$$ while there.  But
noooo, I can't spend $117.00 on the family car????  So it'll be more
comfortable driving in the southern sun???  I know I can spend a little
freely when I'm burning a little fast - as I have been for the last two
weeks.  But, we let her pay the bills ---  Ha!  just got off the phone
with her - she and her boss are going out for steaks tonight..........
Good thing I'm the only one splurging.  (oops, was that sarcasm?)  Am I
the only one out there who exhibits this $$$$ fun when a bit manic?  Is
this to make me feel better - if so, it's not working - now I'm just
worked up.  Worse.  Calvin

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 More options Mar 26 2006, 9:14 am
From: "skip" <uperc...@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:14:06 -0800
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 9:14 am
Subject: Re: $$$$
Uh no, this is a huge symptom of mania and hypomania. Before I was
diagnosed I used to be an eBay addict. The thrill of getting into a
bidding war was a high. However I bought some stuff (even though at a
bargain) that I later regretted. I mean how many handbags and shoes
does one really need?This to me is a red flag that I'm starting to
cycle into that shopping spin.
    What I have done to counteract that is all that stuff I bought I
relisted along with books (except my references to bipolar disorder)
that I have read and don't need anymore. Now I'm lovin watching a
bidding war where I win the cash!!! I've resold many of the items with
a huge profit for what I originally bought them for. The bonus is I set
aside 70% to pay down the equity line we took. The other 30%, I either
spend on art supplies or stash it.
    After a massive spending spree (luckily mine were not horrible
$100. maybe, but I used to be a huge tight wad so this was remarkably
different behaviour) I'd feel guilt for not using the money to pay off
things that I used to or to buy a certificate of deposit or money
market fund for my sons education.
    It's a daily thing to keep myself from buying stuff that I don't
need. But it sounds to me that getting a tune up on your car is not out
of line, unless you don't have it. In other words were not talking that
you're unemployed and are low on the household account right?   North
Polar Skip

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Calvin Heide  
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 More options Mar 26 2006, 2:43 pm
From: "Calvin Heide" <jpg...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:43:14 -0700
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: $$$$

Oh, yeah - I am pending disability retirement and our budget is going to cut by 60%.......  I haven't quite gotten used to that idea yet.  A good time to figure a way around stupid spending - it's low this time.  Last time I went way overboard it screwed up our credit rating and ended up coming out of our retirement stash.....   youch.
Calvin


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 More options Mar 26 2006, 4:09 pm
From: "Veronica Bauman" <ronniebau...@charter.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:09:25 -0600
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: $$$$
Shopping is a major addition for me as well...I am getting a lot of help for
it, but it is "engrained" in me. About 3 months ago, I came out of a 9-10
month shopping spree. Bringing home bags and bags of things. Most of these I
never used. I ended up giving them away - only to make room to buy more!

Three months ago, I joined Debtors Anonymous ) DA. I have not debted in over
10 years, but this has helped with my compulsive shopping - immensely. Even
my 13 year old son noticed that I am not coming home daily with stuff.

I recognize that this may never go away completely, but it is much, much,
much better!

If you are interested:

      Debtors Anonymous - Recovery from Compulsive Debt
      Debtors Anonymous Website: Debtors Anonymous is a twelve step
fellowship for
      debtors trying to recover from money problems and compulsive debt.
      http://www.debtorsanonymous.org/ - Cached

Veronica (Ronnie) Bauman
Home (314) 471-8901
Cell (314) 575-7981
Work (314) 632-5830
ronnie.bau...@anheuser-busch.com
ronniebau...@charter.net


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 More options Mar 27 2006, 8:35 am
From: "skip" <uperc...@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:35:24 -0800
Local: Mon, Mar 27 2006 8:35 am
Subject: Re: $$$$
Ronnie, Good for you. Isn't it all about meds and self management?
North Polar Skip

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 More options Mar 27 2006, 12:09 pm
From: "Hernandez, Sandra \(WH\)" <sandra.hernan...@ngc.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:09:06 -0800
Local: Mon, Mar 27 2006 12:09 pm
Subject: RE: $$$$
Calvin,
     As far as going on a spending spree, I know what that is. My fiancé is bipolar/alcoholic and this past weekend he wanted to do some spending with of course not having money. How could he. Well he thought that I would pay for it and I didn't. I explained to him that at this time I can't afford it. It's always good that in a relationship, the wife or husband that doesn't have a mental illness take over the finances. My fiancée has asked me to do that when we get married and I said that I definitely will. He said that he can't trust his judgment when he's manic, which he was this past weekend. It was difficult cause when he is, he self-medicates and ruins our time with each other. I love him with all my heart but it's hard for me to handle it. I am doing the best I can. Right now he's trying to recover from the drinking but unfortunately it's going to take time for him to get out of it and could possibly through him into depression. That happens almost all of the time. So anyways, with the spending, sometimes I can see what your wife has to deal with, because I know. Experiencing that is so tough for us who are not bipolar but someone has to keep an even keel on the finances. What I am trying to say is, it would be good to let your wife know what's up and consult her to the best of your ability because I know that forgetfulness happens, it happens to my fiancée. Take care and God Bless!

Sandra


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 More options Mar 29 2006, 7:33 am
From: "Veronica Bauman" <ronniebau...@charter.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:33:55 -0600
Local: Wed, Mar 29 2006 7:33 am
Subject: Compassion
Sandra,

You sound very compassionate...I applaud that and could use more of it.

I am a recovering alcoholic for over 23 years and in Al-Anon for 25 years.
Al-Anon has really helped me with my co-dependency.

Not sure if you are interested or not, but if so, this is a great web site
for those of us living with or being friends with an alcoholic...

www.alanon.org

Have a good day Sandra!

Veronica (Ronnie) Bauman
Home (314) 471-8901
Cell (314) 575-7981
Work (314) 632-5830
ronnie.bau...@anheuser-busch.com
ronniebau...@charter.net


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