Q: PVMW k10?
Austin Hastings
not to go.
That said, I wonder if there's going to be a PVMW 2.0, either coincident
with YAPC or not.
=Austin
(PS: I sent in my CLA. When do I get my decoder ring?)
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James E Keenan
> Yapc 2010 is in Columbus, Ohio this year, in case you needed a reason
> not to go.
>
Careful with the sarcasm :-)
> That said, I wonder if there's going to be a PVMW 2.0, either coincident
> with YAPC or not.
>
Last year there were elaborate plans for us to have a workshop on the
Saturday and Sunday before the three days of YAPC. This workshop was to
have been held in some location high on one of Pittsburgh's mountains.
The conference center looked quite delightful but, not surprisingly, it
fell through -- I think for lack of $$$. So we ended up having the
workshop in the same building on the Carnegie-Mellon campus that the
YAPC for-fee classes were being held in. Which was all the better, as
far as I was concerned.
I think it's basically up to us, the Parrot developers, to (a) decide
what business we want to conduct in a workshop; (b) decide whether we
want to have it the weekend before YAPC or the Thursday/Friday YAPC; and
then (c) discuss with the conference organizers what space is available
at Ohio State in those time periods.
My own two cents:
First cent:
I would like to hear what the Rakudo folks' launch plan for Rakudo* is.
If the launch is on track for April 2010 as pmichaud presented last
year, then YAPC::NA::2010 will be the first major Perl conference where
we have that "usable subset of the Perl 6 specification" ready for
people to play with. As I argued at our online summit in December, a
successful launch of Rakudo* is the best possible advertising for Parrot.
Second cent:
Whatever we do decide, I think the fact of having a workshop is even
more important than its content. As I have previously argued, people in
an online, open source project need to see each other F2F at least once
a year (at least those on a given continent). In particular, I hope
that our project architect and project manager can be at the workshop
this year, along with all our board members.
Thank you very much.
kid51
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Austin Hastings
> Last year there were elaborate plans for us to have a workshop on the
> Saturday and Sunday before the three days of YAPC. This workshop was
> to have been held in some location high on one of Pittsburgh's
> mountains. The conference center looked quite delightful but, not
> surprisingly, it fell through -- I think for lack of $$$. So we ended
> up having the workshop in the same building on the Carnegie-Mellon
> campus that the YAPC for-fee classes were being held in. Which was
> all the better, as far as I was concerned.
If I weren't being careful with my sarcasm, I might make an analogy with
Parrot itself. :-)
> I think it's basically up to us, the Parrot developers, to (a) decide
> what business we want to conduct in a workshop; (b) decide whether we
> want to have it the weekend before YAPC or the Thursday/Friday YAPC;
> and then (c) discuss with the conference organizers what space is
> available at Ohio State in those time periods.
>
> My own two cents:
>
> First cent:
>
> I would like to hear what the Rakudo folks' launch plan for Rakudo*
> is. If the launch is on track for April 2010 as pmichaud presented
> last year, then YAPC::NA::2010 will be the first major Perl conference
> where we have that "usable subset of the Perl 6 specification" ready
> for people to play with. As I argued at our online summit in
> December, a successful launch of Rakudo* is the best possible
> advertising for Parrot.
>
You're right. And what's more, if Rakudo* is available, it might behoove
for the Parrot conference to fall well after YAPC, to generate some
enthusiasm. (Although this may be a one shot deal.)
> Second cent:
>
> Whatever we do decide, I think the fact of having a workshop is even
> more important than its content. As I have previously argued, people
> in an online, open source project need to see each other F2F at least
> once a year (at least those on a given continent). In particular, I
> hope that our project architect and project manager can be at the
> workshop this year, along with all our board members.
Agreed. I'm not sure what the geographic distribution of Parroteers is,
tho I have the impression that it's very coastal (with some "south
coast" representatives in Alabama and Texas).
(I apologize if there's a bunch of folks in the midwest that I'm
forgetting.)
While Columbus might be great for co-location with Yapc, we might
benefit from a different place if a large fraction of the group won't be
yapcing.
=Austin
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Jonathan Leto
> While Columbus might be great for co-location with Yapc, we might benefit
> from a different place if a large fraction of the group won't be yapcing.
>
> =Austin
I am going to throw out that I am helping organize the Hacker Lounge
at the Open Source Bridge 2010 conference [0], so I would love to make
a Parrot dev summit/BOFH/whatever happen at the conference. It is June
1–4, 2010 in beautiful Portland, Oregon. Most likely there will be a
24 hr (or very close to 24hr) lounge area for hacking and sprinting
during the entire conference. Last year the hacker lounge was well
stocked with snacks and drinks and I hope the repeat that this year
with the addition of a few projectors for sprinting.
Duke
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Selena Deckelmann
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jonathan Leto <jal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
>> While Columbus might be great for co-location with Yapc, we might benefit
>> from a different place if a large fraction of the group won't be yapcing.
>>
>> =Austin
>
> I am going to throw out that I am helping organize the Hacker Lounge
> at the Open Source Bridge 2010 conference [0], so I would love to make
> a Parrot dev summit/BOFH/whatever happen at the conference. It is June
> 1–4, 2010 in beautiful Portland, Oregon. Most likely there will be a
> 24 hr (or very close to 24hr) lounge area for hacking and sprinting
> during the entire conference. Last year the hacker lounge was well
> stocked with snacks and drinks and I hope the repeat that this year
> with the addition of a few projectors for sprinting.
We'd love to have Parrot hackers at Open Source Bridge.
And on the advocacy front:
* One thing that may be fun is to request hardware from some of the
embedded folks and show Parrot running on a few different platforms.
Hot Live Demos!
* Additional bonus points for holding low-hanging-fruit hack fests
that invite people to come and post a fix for something in an hour or
so. I realize this is a lot of work for the organizers, but it helps
spread the word among devs.
Anyway! Let us know if we can be of help in organizing something here.
-selena
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