p4a.ploneimage frustrations, also p4a screencast links are broken

[Steve]

Hi

I have just started looking at p4a. I was hoping to take a look at
the screencasts that are mentioned on the main page
http://dev.plone4artists.org/pm/p/plone4artists/wiki/Screencasts but
they all return 404 errors. Anyone know where I can get them?

I have installed p4a.ploneimage p4a.plonevideo p4aploneaudio and the
p4a calendar as well as zipfileTransport. At present I have working
with the p4a.ploneimage on plone 3.1.2 and I am not clear if it is
working correctly, at least its behavior is less than ideal.

Here is what I have observed so far

1. If I create a folder and make it a sub-type "Image Container"

If I upload a images through plone one at time I get a two column
table "Image title" and "Size" the Image title is just the default
generic image icon, - I can edit the image object and add a title and
it shows in the table. I would have expected the icon to be a scaled
thumbnail size of the image. Otherwise it becomes an exceeding tedious
task to click through the images to find the one you want when most
image galleries provide thumbnails of the images.

If i click on the contents tab of the folder that I have set to be
an "Image Container" and use the import button to upload a zip file (I
have installed the ZipFileTransport package), They are NOT added to
the table. i.e they do not seem to be recognized as images by the
image container. From the "View" tab I only see the images in the
table I uploaded one at a time. From the "contents" tab of the folder
I see all the images including the ones that where in the uploded
zipfile.


Just above the table of images, it says "No Image Set". If I go to
the edit tab for this "image container" and add a image. I have the
choices
"No File"
"New file"
I get the chosen image above the table of images, However, I now can
NOT remove it. The next time I go into edit the "Image Container" I
only get the options to "Keep existing Image" or "replace it", there
is no option for NO image.

I know got to the "Image container" folder and choice the
"Display" tab it is currently set to "Image view" if I select "select
a content item as default view" and choose another image I get a
screen of just the image an none of the plone master template, no
navigation, no menus, no nothing. I can notget back to undo what I
did. After some time I discovered with I go back to the top dir and
drill down using the "contents" tab I can get to the menu to set it
back to "image view"

2. if i create a folder and want to upload a number of images using
the ZipFileTransport procedure, It says I am supposed to see an import
and export buttons in the "contents view" of this folder. I do not see
these buttons. after much frustration and trial and error I found you
only see these buttons if you already have at last one piece of
content in this folder. otherwise it just displays "There are
currently no items in this folder. "

After I have zip uploaded a number images I set the folder to "Image
Container" But now because "Image container" does not see to recognise
images unpacked from a zipfile all I get is the line

Image information unavailable because this folder contains no image
items.

even though there a 20 or more images files present in the folder. But
now there is no way to go back and remove this folder as an "Image
Container"


Sorry this has been so long, I spent a few hours on this yesterday
because I was considering recommending this to a group at work but
thought I would try it out first. I am an IT administrator I am not
new to this sort of thing, but this has been quite frustrating and has
not been at all intuitive or obvious.

I have not yet tried the video and audio components of p4a
Can anybody shed some light on my experiences, are these know issues?

Thanks for your time
Steve

[Nate Aune]

  I have just started looking at p4a. I was hoping to take a look at
the screencasts that are mentioned on the main page
http://dev.plone4artists.org/pm/p/plone4artists/wiki/Screencasts but
they all return 404 errors. Anyone know where I can get them?

Hi Steve, thanks for reminding me that those links were broken. The Plone.tv site where the links were pointing to is currently down for maintenance,
so I updated the links to point to their original location which is on blip.tv. The links should be working now.

Nate

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[Ross Patterson]

Steve <steven.c...@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi
>
> I have just started looking at p4a. I was hoping to take a look at
> the screencasts that are mentioned on the main page
> http://dev.plone4artists.org/pm/p/plone4artists/wiki/Screencasts but
> they all return 404 errors. Anyone know where I can get them?
>
> I have installed p4a.ploneimage p4a.plonevideo p4aploneaudio and the
> p4a calendar as well as zipfileTransport. At present I have working
> with the p4a.ploneimage on plone 3.1.2 and I am not clear if it is
> working correctly, at least its behavior is less than ideal.

The plone.*image eggs are in alpha state. I think I'm the only person
who has been working on them and that's for a client's specific purposes
so it hasn't been polished for general use. That client work has been
completed so I'm not sure if/when I'll get back to working on it.

HTH,
Ross

[do3c...@googlemail.com]

Hi,

On Oct 22, 7:29 pm, Ross Patterson <m...@rpatterson.net> wrote:
> The plone.*image eggs are in alpha state. I think I'm the only person
> who has been working on them and that's for a client's specific purposes
> so it hasn't been polished for general use. That client work has been
> completed so I'm not sure if/when I'll get back to working on it.

Oh, and I was thinking the gallery view does not exist because
everybody
wants different things here.

I can put some effort into it. It would be cool if I can get commit
rights
for that.
So far I have modified the view classes to use Products.Five base
forms,
otherwise they can't display non ascii chars and in one place I
changed
retrieval of the description field, so that I get it back as unicode.
Archetypes does a lot to hide the unicode value it stores. Maybe
somebody knows a better way to get the value than that:

self.context.schema.get('description').getBaseUnit(self.context).raw

*Shivering*

Patrick

[Nate Aune]

I can put some effort into it. It would be cool if I can get commit
rights for that.

All the p4a add-ons are now hosted in the collective, so if you have commit rights to the collective then you will be able to commit to the p4a code as well. http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/p4a/

Nate

[Patrick Gerken]

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 15:42, Nate Aune <na...@jazkarta.com> wrote:
>
>> I can put some effort into it. It would be cool if I can get commit
>> rights for that.
>
> All the p4a add-ons are now hosted in the collective, so if you have commit
> rights to the collective then you will be able to commit to the p4a code as
> well. http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/p4a/

Yes, there was something..

Stupid me has taken the url that one sees in the trac browser on
dev.plone4artists.org, can switch that browser off, maybe?

Thx,

Patrick

[Nate Aune]

Yeah, I should turn the source code browsing of because it's now out-of-date.
But at least now the URL is pointing to svn.plone.org?
http://dev.plone4artists.org/pm/p/plone4artists/browser/projects/

Nate