RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)

[Gavin Barbier]

Not easy arranging for vehicle repairs when out of the country!

British 4 x 4 collected the Disco last Friday on a low bed. (It is sad to
say, but is the fourth time someone has sent me a photo of my Disco on a low
bed truck)

It ended up being the alternator as some had suggested.
British have quoted me R4700 for a new one, but I am currently trying to see
if I can have mine reconditioned or find another reconditioned one
somewhere.


Regards
Gavin




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From: overlan...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:overlan...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emanuel Berger
Sent: 06 November 2012 06:52 PM
To: overlan...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power

Hi Gavin

Whether the battery or the electric system has a short, you could find out
with a simple test. Disconnect the battery, then directly attach jumpers to
the cables. When the cables still get hot it is to the electrics. It should
be possible to start the engine this way to, without battery.

Greetings
Emanuel

http://nelson2africa.blogspot.ch

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> Datum: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:50:09 +0200
> Von: "Gavin Barbier" <barnee...@gmail.com>
> An: overlan...@googlegroups.com
> Betreff: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power

> Anyone out there who may be able to point me in the right direction?
>
>
>
> On my way to the airport on Sunday night, my Disco 3 suddenly
> displayed suspension fault and all the lights started dimming.
>
> I just managed to pull off the road in time. I switched the engine
> off (to
> reset) and tried to start again.
>
> Some of the displays on the dash started randomly flashing en
> switching off and then, later others would flash.
>
> The hazards would not even work. And this all at 20h30 at night.
>
>
>
> A friend came to assist with additional tools and a avo meter. The
> battery was displaying only 3 volt.
>
> We tried to jumpstart the truck, but after the jumper cables became
> very hot, only the dash lights would come on.
>
> The problem was that we could now not even manually get the handbrake
> off and could not get the truck into neutral for towing (had to tow
> for about
> 1.5 km to his house).
>
> After keeping the jumpers on for a few minutes and the cable
> insolation threatening to melt and a lot of rocking we managed to get
> enough power to get the truck into neutral and the handbrake off.
>
>
>
> I am now stuck overseas for two weeks and my Disco is parked next to
> his bedroom window and "breaking him awake" at night while he is
> trying to sleep!!
>
>
>
> He took the battery out and tried to charge, but says the battery is
> not charging fully.
>
> I phoned the Menlyn Land Rover workshop and they said that they
> suspect that the battery may have a dead cell (I replaced the battery
> in March) and I should get is tested and replaced if required.
>
> The technician also said that the disco 3 has a protection mechanism
> that should the battery voltage drop below 8 volt it will switch the
> power of to the whole vehicle except for the airbags.
>
>
>
> My mate will only be able to replace the battery on Saturday.
>
> I therefor thought I would try the forum "LR techies" for additional
> advice while I wait for Saturday's battery change.
>
>
>
> I forgot to mention that the truck stood outside in the rain the
> previous night.
>
>
>
> These things always seem to happen when I am not even in the country
> to attend to them J
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your replies.
>
>
>
> Gavin Barbier
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[Mike Slater]

Get the new one.  BTDTGTTS

 

Seems to be a good price too.

 

Mike

Best wishes

 

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[Hennie Rautenbach]

I can see a pattern here... Fortunately I don't have the temperament to entertain unreliable vehicles indefinitely. For me this would the trigger to start exploring alternatives. And yes - go with the new one. 

[Gavin Barbier]

I have only had the thing for two years. Going to be difficult to break even with what I still owe in the Disco!!

 

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Sent: 19 November 2012 12:53 PM
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[mar...@iafrica.com]

Think that Hennie maybe talking 'new alternator' here :-)

Mike_R

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Subject:RE: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)

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I have only had the thing for two years. Going to be difficult to break even with what I still owe in the Disco!!

 

From: overlan...@googlegroups.com [mailto:overlan...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hennie Rautenbach
Sent: 19 November 2012 12:53 PM
To: overlan...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)

 

I can see a pattern here... Fortunately I don't have the temperament to entertain unreliable vehicles indefinitely. For me this would the trigger to start exploring alternatives. And yes - go with the new one. 

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[Francois Visagie]

Maybe Gavin also! ;-)

 

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From: overlan...@googlegroups.com [mailto:overlan...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mar...@iafrica.com
Sent: 21 November 2012 07:00
To: overlan...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)

 

Think that Hennie maybe talking 'new alternator' here :-)

Mike_R

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To:barnee...@gmail.com, overlan...@googlegroups.com
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Subject:RE: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)

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I have only had the thing for two years. Going to be difficult to break even with what I still owe in the Disco!!

 

From: overlan...@googlegroups.com [mailto:overlan...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hennie Rautenbach
Sent: 19 November 2012 12:53 PM
To: overlan...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)

 

I can see a pattern here... Fortunately I don't have the temperament to entertain unreliable vehicles indefinitely. For me this would the trigger to start exploring alternatives. And yes - go with the new one. 

 

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[Hennie Rautenbach]

Ouch !

[Hennie Rautenbach]

I meant yes - get a NEW alternator. But I also alluded to the fact that for me so many reliability issues would prompt me to get rid of the vehicle and explore alternative 4x4's :) I realise this is not always financially viable or practical...

[Rob Harvey]

Gavin, has it been unreliable? Apart from the altrnator.

[A.H. (Eric) Sommer]

Rob

 

British 4 x 4 collected the Disco last Friday on a  low bed. (It is sad to
say, but is the fourth time someone has sent me a photo of my Disco on a low
bed truck)

 

Off hand – I would say – Yes! L

 

 

Cheers

 

A.H. (Eric) Sommer  | zr6...@gmail.com | +27 82 492 9272  | (Fax )+27 86 530 6642 | ZR6ETR (gTalk)

 

[Rob Harvey]

Oops, missed that part, apologies.

[Gavin Barbier]

New gearbox (recon)

On-board fire caused by dry grass build up in Botswana (fried the suspension electronics and pneumatic hoses)

Handbrake problems (new actuator)

Handbrake problems after replacing handbrake pads (overheating caused broken disk on the way to Kruger)…………………… J

 

Gavin

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[Christo Steyn]

Wow... this is serious unreliable... :-D

I just love this... please sell this vehicle.... no other car would be THIS bad... hahahaha.....

I love my Disco... with the new engine!!

Cheers
CS

[A.H. (Eric) Sommer]

Christo sed “ I love my Disco... with the new engine!!

 

LMAO!

-          That is the funniest post of the day! J

[Christo Steyn]

Zactly....

Look at how they do it...
www.flickr.com/photos/the_steyns ...  :-D

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[bjtu...@gmail.com]

What? LR stuffed up a window rubber of mine when they couldn't put it back properly (I told them the window was squeaking sometimes...) Eventually I did it.
Now you want to trust them with removing the body etc?

Eish I would stress big time!

Rgds
BruceT

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:16:05 +0200

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Subject: Re: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)

[Christo Steyn]

Every Disco 3 and 4 gets the body removed every 160,000Km...

That was not the issue... the problem was that the fkkr at the workshop went on a gallivanting trip with my car... but did not realize that Tracker is recording the trip...

Well - I am happy how it all was handled in the end...

It now has a new motor and going strong...

LR is not for sissys... :-) (never was)

[Jeremy Bruce]

Have to say it. (While touching wood)

Loving mine. 

Had it for 18 months. Just normal services and now had the control arm bushes replaced under the extended warranty. All going well and service costs are reasonable for this sort of vehicle. Now has 159 000km on it, 29 000 from me. 

Thirsty but I knew that would be the case with buying the V8. 

A lot a car for very little cash as long as you are prepared to cough up R2k at each fill up now that I have the long range FR tank. 

Been driving a Fortuner from Avis for the last week on a business trip. Experiencing the harsh ride and silly interior makes me love my Landy even more. 

May it behave for much longer!

[Gavin Barbier]

The strange thing is, regardless of the Issues, I always end up defending the Disco in the company of the Toyota clan

 

From: overlan...@googlegroups.com [mailto:overlan...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Bruce

Sent: 21 November 2012 10:29 PM
To: overlan...@googlegroups.com

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[Mike_R]

Gavin Barbier wrote
 

> The strange thing is, regardless of the Issues, I always end up defending the Disco in the company of the Toyota clan

 

No worries Gavin,

            We know that when you bought, you did so with your heart rather than your head, your response therefore quite understandable J

 

Mike_R (ducking)

  

[HJT]

I have a friend who ragged me about my LR’s until his Mitsubishi 2.5 cracked a piston.  He has had the vehicle repaired at a cost – Mitsubishi found a chip on his engine and were not sympathetic – and he has immediately sold it.

 

It happens to all makes.

 

HenryT

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[Sean Steyn]

Also, their 3.2 Diesels don't like running out of fuel, the injector pumps die a nasty death..