Not easy arranging for vehicle repairs when out of the country!
British 4 x 4 collected the Disco last Friday on a low bed. (It is sad to
say, but is the fourth time someone has sent me a photo of my Disco on a low
bed truck)
It ended up being the alternator as some had suggested.
British have quoted me R4700 for a new one, but I am currently trying to see
if I can have mine reconditioned or find another reconditioned one
somewhere.
[mailto:overland-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emanuel Berger
Sent: 06 November 2012 06:52 PM
To: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power
Hi Gavin
Whether the battery or the electric system has a short, you could find out
with a simple test. Disconnect the battery, then directly attach jumpers to
the cables. When the cables still get hot it is to the electrics. It should
be possible to start the engine this way to, without battery.
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> Datum: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:50:09 +0200
> Von: "Gavin Barbier" <barneesafa...@gmail.com>
> An: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> Betreff: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power
> Anyone out there who may be able to point me in the right direction?
> On my way to the airport on Sunday night, my Disco 3 suddenly > displayed suspension fault and all the lights started dimming.
> I just managed to pull off the road in time. I switched the engine > off (to
> reset) and tried to start again.
> Some of the displays on the dash started randomly flashing en > switching off and then, later others would flash.
> The hazards would not even work. And this all at 20h30 at night.
> A friend came to assist with additional tools and a avo meter. The > battery was displaying only 3 volt.
> We tried to jumpstart the truck, but after the jumper cables became > very hot, only the dash lights would come on.
> The problem was that we could now not even manually get the handbrake > off and could not get the truck into neutral for towing (had to tow > for about
> 1.5 km to his house).
> After keeping the jumpers on for a few minutes and the cable > insolation threatening to melt and a lot of rocking we managed to get > enough power to get the truck into neutral and the handbrake off.
> I am now stuck overseas for two weeks and my Disco is parked next to > his bedroom window and "breaking him awake" at night while he is > trying to sleep!!
> He took the battery out and tried to charge, but says the battery is > not charging fully.
> I phoned the Menlyn Land Rover workshop and they said that they > suspect that the battery may have a dead cell (I replaced the battery > in March) and I should get is tested and replaced if required.
> The technician also said that the disco 3 has a protection mechanism > that should the battery voltage drop below 8 volt it will switch the > power of to the whole vehicle except for the airbags.
> My mate will only be able to replace the battery on Saturday.
> I therefor thought I would try the forum "LR techies" for additional > advice while I wait for Saturday's battery change.
> I forgot to mention that the truck stood outside in the rain the > previous night.
> These things always seem to happen when I am not even in the country > to attend to them J
> Not easy arranging for vehicle repairs when out of the country!
> British 4 x 4 collected the Disco last Friday on a low bed. (It is sad to
> say, but is the fourth time someone has sent me a photo of my Disco on a
> low
> bed truck)
> It ended up being the alternator as some had suggested.
> British have quoted me R4700 for a new one, but I am currently trying to
> see
> if I can have mine reconditioned or find another reconditioned one
> somewhere.
> Regards
> Gavin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:overland-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emanuel Berger
> Sent: 06 November 2012 06:52 PM
> To: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power
> Hi Gavin
> Whether the battery or the electric system has a short, you could find out
> with a simple test. Disconnect the battery, then directly attach jumpers to
> the cables. When the cables still get hot it is to the electrics. It should
> be possible to start the engine this way to, without battery.
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:50:09 +0200
> > Von: "Gavin Barbier" <barneesafa...@gmail.com>
> > An: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> > Betreff: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power
> > Anyone out there who may be able to point me in the right direction?
> > On my way to the airport on Sunday night, my Disco 3 suddenly
> > displayed suspension fault and all the lights started dimming.
> > I just managed to pull off the road in time. I switched the engine
> > off (to
> > reset) and tried to start again.
> > Some of the displays on the dash started randomly flashing en
> > switching off and then, later others would flash.
> > The hazards would not even work. And this all at 20h30 at night.
> > A friend came to assist with additional tools and a avo meter. The
> > battery was displaying only 3 volt.
> > We tried to jumpstart the truck, but after the jumper cables became
> > very hot, only the dash lights would come on.
> > The problem was that we could now not even manually get the handbrake
> > off and could not get the truck into neutral for towing (had to tow
> > for about
> > 1.5 km to his house).
> > After keeping the jumpers on for a few minutes and the cable
> > insolation threatening to melt and a lot of rocking we managed to get
> > enough power to get the truck into neutral and the handbrake off.
> > I am now stuck overseas for two weeks and my Disco is parked next to
> > his bedroom window and "breaking him awake" at night while he is
> > trying to sleep!!
> > He took the battery out and tried to charge, but says the battery is
> > not charging fully.
> > I phoned the Menlyn Land Rover workshop and they said that they
> > suspect that the battery may have a dead cell (I replaced the battery
> > in March) and I should get is tested and replaced if required.
> > The technician also said that the disco 3 has a protection mechanism
> > that should the battery voltage drop below 8 volt it will switch the
> > power of to the whole vehicle except for the airbags.
> > My mate will only be able to replace the battery on Saturday.
> > I therefor thought I would try the forum "LR techies" for additional
> > advice while I wait for Saturday's battery change.
> > I forgot to mention that the truck stood outside in the rain the
> > previous night.
> > These things always seem to happen when I am not even in the country
> > to attend to them J
I can see a pattern here... Fortunately I don't have the temperament
to entertain unreliable vehicles indefinitely. For me this would the
trigger to start exploring alternatives. And yes - go with the new one.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Gavin Barbier <barneesafa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Not easy arranging for vehicle repairs when out of the country!
> British 4 x 4 collected the Disco last Friday on a low bed. (It is sad to
> say, but is the fourth time someone has sent me a photo of my Disco on a
> low
> bed truck)
I have only had the thing for two years. Going to be difficult to break even
with what I still owe in the Disco!!
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[mailto:overland-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hennie Rautenbach
Sent: 19 November 2012 12:53 PM
To: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
I can see a pattern here... Fortunately I don't have the temperament to
entertain unreliable vehicles indefinitely. For me this would the trigger to
start exploring alternatives. And yes - go with the new one.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Gavin Barbier <barneesafa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Not easy arranging for vehicle repairs when out of the country!
British 4 x 4 collected the Disco last Friday on a low bed. (It is sad to
say, but is the fourth time someone has sent me a photo of my Disco on a low
bed truck)
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Think that Hennie maybe talking 'new alternator' here :-)
Mike_R
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To:barneesafa...@gmail.com, overland-forum@googlegroups.com
Cc:
Subject:RE: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
I have only had the thing for two years. Going to be difficult to break even with what I still owe in the Disco!!
From: overland-forum@googlegroups.com [mailto:overland-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hennie Rautenbach
Sent: 19 November 2012 12:53 PM
To: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
I can see a pattern here... Fortunately I don't have the temperament to entertain unreliable vehicles indefinitely. For me this would the trigger to start exploring alternatives. And yes - go with the new one. Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN
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[mailto:overland-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mar...@iafrica.com
Sent: 21 November 2012 07:00
To: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
Think that Hennie maybe talking 'new alternator' here :-)
Mike_R
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To:barneesafa...@gmail.com, overland-forum@googlegroups.com
Cc:
Subject:RE: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
_____
I have only had the thing for two years. Going to be difficult to break even
with what I still owe in the Disco!!
From: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
[mailto:overland-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hennie Rautenbach
Sent: 19 November 2012 12:53 PM
To: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
I can see a pattern here... Fortunately I don't have the temperament to
entertain unreliable vehicles indefinitely. For me this would the trigger to
start exploring alternatives. And yes - go with the new one.
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I meant yes - get a NEW alternator. But I also alluded to the fact that for
me so many reliability issues would prompt me to get rid of the vehicle
and explore alternative 4x4's :) I realise this is not
always financially viable or practical...
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Francois Visagie <
> *From:* overland-forum@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> overland-forum@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *mar...@iafrica.com
> *Sent:* 21 November 2012 07:00
> *To:* overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)***
> *
> ** **
> Think that Hennie maybe talking 'new alternator' here :-)
> Mike_R****
> ------------------------------
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> *Sent:*2012/11/20 11:33:24 PM
> *To:*barneesafa...@gmail.com, overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:*
> *Subject:*RE: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)****
> ------------------------------
> I have only had the thing for two years. Going to be difficult to break
> even with what I still owe in the Disco!! ****
> ****
> *From:* overland-forum@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> overland-forum@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hennie Rautenbach
> *Sent:* 19 November 2012 12:53 PM
> *To:* overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)****
> ****
> I can see a pattern here... Fortunately I don't have the temperament
> to entertain unreliable vehicles indefinitely. For me this would the
> trigger to start exploring alternatives. And yes - go with the new one. **
> **
> ** **
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On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:07:44 AM UTC+2, Hennie Rautenbach wrote: > I meant yes - get a NEW alternator. But I also alluded to the fact that > for me so many reliability issues would prompt me to get rid of the vehicle > and explore alternative 4x4's :) I realise this is not > always financially viable or practical...
British 4 x 4 collected the Disco last Friday on a low bed. (It is sad to
say, but is the fourth time someone has sent me a photo of my Disco on a low
bed truck)
On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56:40 AM UTC+2, Eric Sommer wrote:
> Rob
> British 4 x 4 collected the Disco last Friday on a low bed. (It is sad to
> say, but is the fourth time someone has sent me a photo of my Disco on a > low
> bed truck)
On-board fire caused by dry grass build up in Botswana (fried the suspension
electronics and pneumatic hoses)
Handbrake problems (new actuator)
Handbrake problems after replacing handbrake pads (overheating caused broken
disk on the way to Kruger)........ J
Gavin
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[mailto:overland-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Harvey
Sent: 21 November 2012 08:51 AM
To: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
Gavin, has it been unreliable? Apart from the altrnator.
On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:07:44 AM UTC+2, Hennie Rautenbach wrote:
I meant yes - get a NEW alternator. But I also alluded to the fact that for
me so many reliability issues would prompt me to get rid of the vehicle and
explore alternative 4x4's :) I realise this is not always financially viable
or practical...
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> On-board fire caused by dry grass build up in Botswana (fried the
> suspension electronics and pneumatic hoses)****
> Handbrake problems (new actuator) ****
> Handbrake problems after replacing handbrake pads (overheating caused
> broken disk on the way to Kruger)…………………… J****
> ** **
> Gavin****
> ** **
> ****
> ** **
> *From:* overland-forum@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> overland-forum@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob Harvey
> *Sent:* 21 November 2012 08:51 AM
> *To:* overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)***
> *
> ** **
> Gavin, has it been unreliable? Apart from the altrnator.****
> ****
> On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:07:44 AM UTC+2, Hennie Rautenbach wrote:
> ****
> I meant yes - get a NEW alternator. But I also alluded to the fact that
> for me so many reliability issues would prompt me to get rid of the vehicle
> and explore alternative 4x4's :) I realise this is not
> always financially viable or practical...****
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What? LR stuffed up a window rubber of mine when they couldn't put it back properly (I told them the window was squeaking sometimes...) Eventually I did it.
Now you want to trust them with removing the body etc?
Eish I would stress big time!
Rgds
BruceT Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
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Subject: Re: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
Every Disco 3 and 4 gets the body removed every 160,000Km...
That was not the issue... the problem was that the fkkr at the workshop
went on a gallivanting trip with my car... but did not realize that Tracker
is recording the trip...
Well - I am happy how it all was handled in the end...
It now has a new motor and going strong...
LR is not for sissys... :-) (never was)
On 21 November 2012 17:35, <bjturn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
> What? LR stuffed up a window rubber of mine when they couldn't put it back
> properly (I told them the window was squeaking sometimes...) Eventually I
> did it.
> Now you want to trust them with removing the body etc?
> Eish I would stress big time!
> Rgds
> BruceT
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
> ------------------------------
> *From: * Christo Steyn <ste...@gmail.com>
> *Sender: * overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:16:05 +0200
> *To: *overland-forum@googlegroups.com<overland-forum@googlegroups.com>
> *ReplyTo: * overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
Have to say it. (While touching wood)
Loving mine.
Had it for 18 months. Just normal services and now had the control arm
bushes replaced under the extended warranty. All going well and service
costs are reasonable for this sort of vehicle. Now has 159 000km on it, 29
000 from me.
Thirsty but I knew that would be the case with buying the V8.
A lot a car for very little cash as long as you are prepared to cough up
R2k at each fill up now that I have the long range FR tank.
Been driving a Fortuner from Avis for the last week on a business trip.
Experiencing the harsh ride and silly interior makes me love my Landy even
more.
On Wednesday, 21 November 2012, Christo Steyn wrote:
> Every Disco 3 and 4 gets the body removed every 160,000Km...
> That was not the issue... the problem was that the fkkr at the workshop
> went on a gallivanting trip with my car... but did not realize that Tracker
> is recording the trip...
> Well - I am happy how it all was handled in the end...
> It now has a new motor and going strong...
> LR is not for sissys... :-) (never was)
> On 21 November 2012 17:35, <bjturn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
> What? LR stuffed up a window rubber of mine when they couldn't put it back
> properly (I told them the window was squeaking sometimes...) Eventually I
> did it.
> Now you want to trust them with removing the body etc?
> Eish I would stress big time!
> Rgds
> BruceT
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
> ------------------------------
> *From: * Christo Steyn <ste...@gmail.com>
> *Sender: * overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:16:05 +0200
> *To: *overland-forum@googlegroups.com<overland-forum@googlegroups.com>
> *ReplyTo: * overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
The strange thing is, regardless of the Issues, I always end up defending
the Disco in the company of the Toyota clan
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[mailto:overland-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Bruce
Sent: 21 November 2012 10:29 PM
To: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
Have to say it. (While touching wood)
Loving mine.
Had it for 18 months. Just normal services and now had the control arm
bushes replaced under the extended warranty. All going well and service
costs are reasonable for this sort of vehicle. Now has 159 000km on it, 29
000 from me.
Thirsty but I knew that would be the case with buying the V8.
A lot a car for very little cash as long as you are prepared to cough up R2k
at each fill up now that I have the long range FR tank.
Been driving a Fortuner from Avis for the last week on a business trip.
Experiencing the harsh ride and silly interior makes me love my Landy even
more.
May it behave for much longer!
On Wednesday, 21 November 2012, Christo Steyn wrote:
Every Disco 3 and 4 gets the body removed every 160,000Km...
That was not the issue... the problem was that the fkkr at the workshop went
on a gallivanting trip with my car... but did not realize that Tracker is
recording the trip...
Well - I am happy how it all was handled in the end...
It now has a new motor and going strong...
LR is not for sissys... :-) (never was)
On 21 November 2012 17:35, <bjturn...@gmail.com> wrote:
What? LR stuffed up a window rubber of mine when they couldn't put it back
properly (I told them the window was squeaking sometimes...) Eventually I
did it.
Now you want to trust them with removing the body etc?
I have a friend who ragged me about my LR's until his Mitsubishi 2.5 cracked
a piston. He has had the vehicle repaired at a cost - Mitsubishi found a
chip on his engine and were not sympathetic - and he has immediately sold
it.
It happens to all makes.
HenryT
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[mailto:overland-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike_R
Sent: 22 November 2012 01:36 PM
To: overland-forum@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)
Gavin Barbier wrote
> The strange thing is, regardless of the Issues, I always end up defending
the Disco in the company of the Toyota clan
No worries Gavin,
We know that when you bought, you did so with your heart rather
than your head, your response therefore quite understandable J
Mike_R (ducking)
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On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:37 PM, HJT <et...@yebo.co.za> wrote:
> I have a friend who ragged me about my LR’s until his Mitsubishi 2.5
> cracked a piston. He has had the vehicle repaired at a cost – Mitsubishi
> found a chip on his engine and were not sympathetic – and he has
> immediately sold it.****
> ** **
> It happens to all makes.****
> ** **
> HenryT****
> ** **
> ** **
> *From:* overland-forum@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> overland-forum@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike_R
> *Sent:* 22 November 2012 01:36 PM
> *To:* overland-forum@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Overland] Disco 3 Total loss of power (Report Back)****
> ** **
> Gavin Barbier wrote
> ****
> > The strange thing is, regardless of the Issues, I always end up
> defending the Disco in the company of the Toyota clan****
> ** **
> No worries Gavin, ****
> We know that when you bought, you did so with your heart
> rather than your head, your response therefore quite understandable J****
> ** **
> Mike_R (ducking)****
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