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David Domke  
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 More options May 26 2005, 12:17 pm
From: David Domke <do...@u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:17:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 26 2005 12:17 pm
Subject: *Sightings* 5/26/05 -- Petitioner or Prophet? (fwd)

I thought you find this interesting for your discussion group.  Would it
be possible to have it posted to the discussion?  I appreciate your
commitment to your beliefs.

David Domke


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JohnC  
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 More options May 26 2005, 10:48 pm
From: "JohnC" <j_calvin_2...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:48:06 -0700
Local: Thurs, May 26 2005 10:48 pm
Subject: Re: *Sightings* 5/26/05 -- Petitioner or Prophet? (fwd)
David Domke appreciates your commitment to your liberal beliefs and
then posts a biased article with many falsehoods in it, to try to prop
up the leftists at Calvin and their politicizing of the Bush
commencement speech.  Stop trying to say Bush is not a Christian just
because you disagree with him politically. He is pro-life and working
towards a culture of life, while the Democrats he opposes are
virulently pro-abortion. We can argue about policy differences, whether
one tax policy or national defense policy is better or worse, but those
are not Christian or non-Christian decisions.

Conservatives have proven that lowering taxes on all working Americans
leads to a better economy and more jobs and a better life for all.
Liberals want to increase taxes and create a larger and more intrusive
government, while winking at immorality and making more of it legal.
So on taxes, we really can't say one way is Christian and one is not
Christian.  We can say that one way works and one way has failed.

You see the difference.  We can survive a Jimmy Carter and high taxes,
high inflation and high unemployment. But when Reagan cuts taxes and
causes the economy to boom, that is not a "Christian" act. It is an
economic act for the good of America.  We can survice a Bill Clinton
with his sexual harassment lawsuits, his impeachment for perjury,
obstruction of justice and contempt of court.

But to put ads in the paper were beyond the pale when they claimed that
"we see conflicts between our understanding of what Christians are
called to do and many of the policies of your administration" and
"the policies and actions of your administration, both domestically
and internationally over the past four years, violate many deeply held
principles of Calvin College" and that Bush's policies "do not
exemplify the [Christian] faith we live by".  This is arrogant and
wrong.

David Domke,  your article is correct about "President Bush delivered
his first 2005 commencement address on May 21 at Calvin College, a
small evangelical Christian school in western Michigan."

But then the article breaks bad on us..." This address marked the
latest attempt by the Republican Party to use talk about God for
political gain."

If you read the actual speech, at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/05/20050521-1.html
and the Chuck Colson commentary at:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/chuckcolson/cc20050524.shtml
you will discover that it was the liberals that were making a fuss for
political gain, but falsely claiming that Bush's policies are
anti-Christian.

Why, David Domke, do you think God was NOT on the side of protecting
the life of Terri Schiavo, an innocent, disabled American woman who was
starved and dehydrated to death at the demand of her estranged and
adulterous husband?

And David Domke, you think God is NOT on the side of judges who
interpret the law, and not make new law from the bench, laws like Roe
v. Wade that made the killing of innocent growing, pain-feeling
children acceptable and legal?

And David Domke, you think it's OK to smear the  House Majority
Leader Tom DeLay over unproven charges of unethical conduct?  You know
he has never been charged with breaking any law or ethics rule.  Judge
not lest ye shall be judged.

And what is not Christian about not discriminating against faith-based
programs that are in place to help the poor and needy? Do you think God
WANTS us to discriminate agains them and give the funds to other
programs who have their own humanistic faith-based agenda?

And what in the world is wrong with Bush promoting a culture of life
and traditional marriage?   Are you for a culture of death and changing
the definition of marriage?

And what is wrong with Bush's claim in 2003 that "Americans are a free
people, who know that freedom is the right of every person and the
future of every nation.  The liberty we prize is not America's gift
to the world, it is God's gift to humanity."

Why? Do you think God wants us to live under tyranny and
totalitarianism? Of course God wants us to have liberty...what is wrong
with Bush saying it? "This reflects a misunderstanding about Mr.
Bush's faith. Bush actually prays for guidance, for wisdom, for
strength. Bush doesn't think 'I'm God's guy, he agrees with
everything I do'. If he did it would be disturbing to say the least.
But Bush is not John Brown saying God himself told me to start this
war, and he's not an ayatollah saying death to the Great Satan. Bush is
just a Christian asking God for help and trying in turn to do what is
helpful. When you do this you're acknowledging your inadequacy and
dependence. It's a declaration not of pride but of humility. To a
Christian it's like declaring reality. It's like saying, "There's
weather outside."

So Mr. Bush doesn't shy from conclusions and he isn't embarrassed that
he asks for and needs God's help."  From "Gut Time"
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110003048

David and Kevin: please don't push your failed liberal ideas on your
students and hold their grades over their heads based on their
agreement or disagreement with your politics. See:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Content/read.asp?ID=50
We need academic freedom and diversity of opinion on college campuses.


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