Boy Scouts Lose Philadelphia Lease For Not Allowing Sodomites In The Scouts
J Baker
PHILADELPHIA -- For three years the Philadelphia council of the Boy Scouts
of America held its ground. It resisted the city's request to change its
discriminatory policy toward gay people despite threats that if it did not
do so, the city would evict the group from a municipal building where the
Scouts have resided practically rent free since 1928. Hailed as the
birthplace of the Boy Scouts, the Beaux Arts building is the seat of the
seventh-largest chapter of the organization and the first of the more than
300 council service centers built by the Scouts around the country over the
past century. But over the years the fight between the city and the Scouts
was about more than this grandiose structure in Center City. Municipal
officials said the clash stemmed from a duty to defend civil rights and an
obligation to abide by a local law that bars taxpayer support for any group
that discriminates (against filthy sodomite sex offenders and predators).
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/06/us/06scouts.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Tim Crowley
the boy scouts have chosen to spread. sorry.
ScottyFLL
wrote:
> But I'm not fat
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Jun 18, 11:59 am, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm college educated
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LC
Schizophrenic NetNut "J Young" <jyoung...@aol.com> nym-shifting as
"J Baker" <bi...@ass.com> wrote in message
news:1feuda....@news.alt.net...
> Boy Scouts Lose Philadelphia Lease For Not Allowing Sodomites In The
> Scouts
Well, if it's not the racist hate-monger "J Young", all dressed up in a new
nym. The same UseNut that posted these:
"Fortunately America, with the exception of the jews and niggers, are not a
nation of pigs. You must be thinking about the French."
From: "J Baker" <bi...@ass.com>
Message-ID: <1f4mfa....@news.alt.net>
"I'm a devout Catholic and would like to see the Muslims start
stoking-up the ovens in Tel Aviv."
Message-ID: <1158543753.0...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
"Q: what's the difference between a jew and a pizza? A: pizza doesn't scream
when you put it in the oven.
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha ;-)"
Message-ID: <9aGdnT4p1b9...@giganews.com>
How's that schizophrenia working out for you, "J"?
Vinegar Hill
<timmyt...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>the city of new york
SHADDUP POTHEAD!
http://www.freespeechseattle.org/media/1999-07-22-stranger.shtml
July 9, Seattle Center officials banished Tim Crowley--who's pushing
I-46, an initiative to repeal Seattle's poster ban--from the 74-acre
property. Seattle Center security claimed Crowley had violated park
guidelines by displaying an anti-poster-ban sign [see "Cops Ban Poster
Guy," In Other News, July 15]. He was told to stay out for a year.
While working the crowd for signatures, Crowley took a "Yes on I-46"
sign and placed it in a tree near stage left of the Mural
Amphitheater. Two people wearing shirts that read "staff" approached
him and told him he had to take the sign down. He asked why. They said
it was against the rules. "What rules?" he asked.
They didn't answer. A third staffer showed up and informed Crowley
that people have to pay to display signs at Seattle Center. He ordered
Crowley to take his sign down, and Crowley refused. The staffer then
took the sign down himself, and Crowley ripped it out of his hands.
The police--who operate a cop shop on Seattle Center
grounds--responded immediately, confiscating the campaign sign and
ordering Crowley to come with them. The cop in charge, Sergeant Ron
Wilson, told Crowley he was "out of control," and had better do what
he was told. Wilson and two other cops escorted Crowley back to their
office, where they filled out a card with his name, address, and date
of birth, and informed him that he couldn't return to Seattle Center
for a year. Crowley asked for a copy of the card, but the police
refused.
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=1559
The cop in charge, Sergeant Ron Wilson, told Crowley he was "out of
control," and had better do what he was told. Wilson and two other
cops escorted Crowley back to their office, where they filled out a
card with his name, address, and date of birth, and informed him that
he couldn't return to Seattle Center for a year.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/paynter/payn205.shtml
Crowley, who lives on Capitol Hill, says he was gassed in his home
by
"rampaging police" last year and wants an assurance it won't happen
again. He claims the message being broadcast by the mayor and police
is that the city is prepared to do its worst to silence the citizens
of Seattle.
Heaving a sigh, Lilly called that kind of talk "really, really
disappointing." Of course, people are free to turn out with signs for
labor, the environment, social justice, whatever the cause, he said.
http://www.ci.seattle.wa.us/ethics/el99a/report/filings/bi_fss/s99072...
1999 Seattle Election Information
Filings - Disclosure Reports
Free Speech Seattle (YES)
05/06/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $2.01 $351.69
Description: copies
05/06/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $21.50 $351.69
Description: clipboards
05/06/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $3.02 $3
05/14/1999 Crowley, Mikie
Seattle, WA
$48.94 $49.94
Description: copies & groceries (2/25-5/14)
05/16/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $12.00 $363.69
05/19/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $4.95 $368.64
Description: stamps
05/22/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $6.44 $378.90
Description: drinks
05/22/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $3.82 $378.90
Description: drinks
05/27/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $6.44 $385.34
Description: foam board
05/28/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $20.16 $441.26
Description: copies
05/28/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $4.32 $441.26
Description: door stop
05/28/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $21.67 $441.26
Description: printer paper
05/28/1999 Crowley, Tim
Seattle, WA Virginia Mason Medical Center
Seattle, WA
Hosp. Worker $9.77 $441.26
Jello Biafra For President
In late November, Jello Biafra was nominated for the New York State
Green Party Presidential Primary scheduled for March 7, 2000. Biafra,
intially unaware of the nomination, has since offered his consent and
is an official candidate.
In Seattle Contact
Tim Crowley
442-9404
mu...@hemp.net
POTHEAD!
SMITH29
It's good to review the Toilet Tank every once in a while.
After calling him on posting from work the noise in here from him went
down dramatically.
29 :-)
droll yankee
mumbled:
>> POTHEAD!
>>
>xxxx
>It's good to review the Toilet Tank every once in a while.
>After calling him on posting from work the noise in here from him went
>down dramatically.
>
>29 :-)
Awesome!
Tim Crowley
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:43:16 -0800 (PST), Tim Crowley
>
> >the city of new york
>
> SHADDUP
NEVER, spammy. Never. it's freaks like you that can't speak in the
light of day. You hide real good, now. It's really al.l you can do.
Tim Crowley
> Schizophrenic NetNut "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> nym-shifting as"J Baker" <b...@ass.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1feuda....@news.alt.net...
>
> > Boy Scouts Lose Philadelphia Lease For Not Allowing Sodomites In The
> > Scouts
>
> Well, if it's not the racist hate-monger "J Young", all dressed up in a new
> nym. The same UseNut that posted these:
>
> "Fortunately America, with the exception of the jews and niggers, are not a
> nation of pigs. You must be thinking about the French."
> Message-ID: <1f4mfa....@news.alt.net>
>
> "I'm a devout Catholic and would like to see the Muslims start
> stoking-up the ovens in Tel Aviv."
> Message-ID: <1158543753.0...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
>
> "Q: what's the difference between a jew and a pizza? A: pizza doesn't scream
> when you put it in the oven.
> Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha ;-)"
> Message-ID: <9aGdnT4p1b9...@giganews.com>
>
> How's that schizophrenia working out for you, "J"?
Yup and Spammy and Smith29 throwing all the support behind him. Same
as it ever was.
lein
No surprise, just another case of the left destroying an organization
that uplifts society all the while offering nothing simular.
Clave
news:6897951a-a819-4ee8...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
The BSA destroyed itself.
Jim
droll yankee
<timmyt...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>On Dec 9, 9:26 pm, Vinegar Hill <hick...@hollow.farm> wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:43:16 -0800 (PST), Tim Crowley
>> <timmyturm...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>>
>> >the city of new york
>>
>> SHADDUP
>
>NEVER,
POTHEAD DRUGGIE!\\\\
droll yankee
droll yankee
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> mumbled:
>The BSA destroyed itself.
Caught you circle jerking, didn't they?
lein
wrote:
> "lein" <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
Not at all.
droll yankee
<boomer_...@my-deja.com> mumbled:
Right, where'd they go?
Clave
You're blind.
The BSA became religiously intolerant and exclusionary. No one on the left
forced them to do that.
Jim
Yer Pal Al
Yea, they should let the fags hump the kids in the pup tents like they
did when you were a kid.
bobandcarole
Do you claim "victory" before or after you slop Sharon Sow?
Speaking of pigs, here's Sharon now...oink oink
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2016/0006photojm2.jpg
Where are the actual pictures of me or my family history,
faggot salberg? After all, I have yours....
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA
Here's a link to the Addams family:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/a/l/Scott-A-Salberg/index.html
Here's the AIDS boy himself:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8561/c9bd400b0270da790thumb1ly7.jpg
Here's his fat ass sow of a mother:http://img411.imageshack.us/
img411/2016/0006photojm2.jpg
"I am so superior to you that you can't even see it"~ScottyFLL whines
after another usenet ass-kicking.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/msg/4189ad9e2ab275d3?
/}
@###{ ]::::::bobandcarole::::::>
\}
Cutting faggot Scott Salberg to pieces daily
ScottyFLL
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:22:49 -0800 (PST), lein
>
> - Show quoted text -
On Jun 20, 9:38 pm, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> But I'm not fat
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Jun 18, 11:59 am, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm college educated
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blobtardia's hobby: http://tinyurl.com/yp6pnl (WARNING: Includes
language such as "juicy shaved pussy that squirts")
Carole shows Blobtardia who's the boss here: http://tinyurl.com/yvah46
SMITH29
BSA policy is unchanged.
The politically correct is what has changed.
Becoming intolerant of BSA because it has a policy that has been in
effect for years is where the change came in.
BSA is a private organization and has every right to set up it's own
policy.
BSA will survive on it's own very well and the community will come up
the loser on this decision.
You fudge packers really know how to make friends and influence people.
Now I am turning against the homosexual activists and will do everything
in my power to NOT help you sick HIV ass holes.
29
>
> Jim
>
>
droll yankee
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> mumbled:
>You're blind.
You're a bivalve.
Bill Shatzer
> BSA policy is unchanged.
> The politically correct is what has changed.
> Becoming intolerant of BSA because it has a policy that has been in
> effect for years is where the change came in.
A policy which dates all the way back to, wait for it, 1991!
The Boy Scouts of America managed to function for 81 years without such
a policy.
Meanwhile, the original Boy Scouts in Great Britain (founded by Baden
Powell[1]) manage to function quite nicely under an anti-discrimination
policy which includes homosexuals. As do the Boy Scouts in Canada.
[1] And some serious questions have been raised about HIS sexuality!
Peace and justice,
Halsey Knox
<bshat...@comcast.net> mumbled:
>The Boy Scouts of America managed to function for 81 years without such
>a policy.
Then the world went nutso and sick - oh well...
SMITH29
I guess it really doesn't matter the date of the policy incorporation.
It's their policy and they make no explanation to anyone because it
isn't necessary or required to do so.
>
> The Boy Scouts of America managed to function for 81 years without such
> a policy.
I'm guessing they didn't feel the need to until they were forced to by
external pressure.
A person can't say the scout oath and be openly homosexual at the same time.
> http://www.scouting.org/nav/enter.jsp?s=xx&c=ds&terms=homosexuality
I strongly support their stand as a strongly moral organization that
opposes homosexuality and they need make no excuses.
In my scouting years homosexuality never came up. Their just were none
that were openly homosexual and I never had an encounter with a
homosexual in the Scouts or the Explorers that I can remember.
>
> Meanwhile, the original Boy Scouts in Great Britain (founded by Baden
> Powell[1]) manage to function quite nicely under an anti-discrimination
> policy which includes homosexuals. As do the Boy Scouts in Canada.
xxxx
They can do as they wish. I have no comment on their policy.
>
> [1] And some serious questions have been raised about HIS sexuality!
xxxx
Yes, I suppose the activists are out to screw up his name as retaliation
for not allowing them in the troop.
And if he is homosexual, so what? That has absolutely nothing to do with
BSA.
29
>
> Peace and justice,
>
ScottyFLL
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:24:33 -0800, SMITH29 <smit...@comcast.net>
> mumbled:
>
> >> POTHEAD!
>
> >xxxx
> >It's good to review the Toilet Tank every once in a while.
> >After calling him on posting from work the noise in here from him went
> >down dramatically.
>
> >29 :-)
>
> Awesome!
Blobtardia, Usenet's fattest troll, has for all intents and purposes,
surrendered.
His humiliation, however, will never be complete. Somehow, he keeps
finding ways to HUMILIATE HIMSELF FURTHER!!!
For example, he recently tried to convince us of his vast wealth
(LOL!) by telling us he owns a POWER SAW!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gee, I wish *I* could be that rich!
But let it be known that publication of his "juicy shaved pussy that
squirts" ad has made him the laughingstock of Usenet, and all of his
posts, to any and all Usenet groups, are taken with a grain of salt
(make-believe salt, since his ridiculous posts are all make-believe).
He does make us laught, however:
On Jun 20, 9:38 pm, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> But I'm not fat
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Jun 18, 11:59 am, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm college educated
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-----!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill Shatzer
> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>
>> SMITH29 wrote:
>>> BSA policy is unchanged.
>>> The politically correct is what has changed.
>>> Becoming intolerant of BSA because it has a policy that has been in
>>> effect for years is where the change came in.
>> A policy which dates all the way back to, wait for it, 1991!
> I guess it really doesn't matter the date of the policy incorporation.
Then why did you find it relevant to claim that the policy has "been in
effect for years".
Which is literally correct but I doubt you intended to mean only 16 years.
> It's their policy and they make no explanation to anyone because it
> isn't necessary or required to do so.
Sure. And it's Philadelphia's meeting hall and it is not necessary or
required for it to explain their leasing policy. Though they did.
>> The Boy Scouts of America managed to function for 81 years without
>> such a policy.
> I'm guessing they didn't feel the need to until they were forced to by
> external pressure.
Or they got taken over by a bunch of straight-laced ninnies.
> A person can't say the scout oath and be openly homosexual at the same
> time.
Sure they can. Quite obviously many were doing so before the BSA decided
to get all huffy about it.
>> http://www.scouting.org/nav/enter.jsp?s=xx&c=ds&terms=homosexuality
> I strongly support their stand as a strongly moral organization that
> opposes homosexuality and they need make no excuses.
And ditto the City of Philadelphia.
> In my scouting years homosexuality never came up. Their just were none
> that were openly homosexual and I never had an encounter with a
> homosexual in the Scouts or the Explorers that I can remember.
Don't ask, don't tell.
>> Meanwhile, the original Boy Scouts in Great Britain (founded by Baden
>> Powell[1]) manage to function quite nicely under an
>> anti-discrimination policy which includes homosexuals. As do the Boy
>> Scouts in Canada.
> They can do as they wish. I have no comment on their policy.
But aren't the British Scouts just "clean" and "morally straight" as the
BSA edition?
>> [1] And some serious questions have been raised about HIS sexuality!
> Yes, I suppose the activists are out to screw up his name as retaliation
> for not allowing them in the troop.
Why would that "screw up his name"? Certainly his sexuality doesn't
change anything he did or accomplished during his lifetime. Whatever
accolades or censure he merits would seem completely unaffected by that.
All in all, his sexuality would seem entirely irrelevant. As would the
sexuality of present day folks seeking to participate in Scouting.
> And if he is homosexual, so what? That has absolutely nothing to do with
> BSA.
Well, it would be a bit ironic if the BSA excluded the founder of the
entire scouting movement.
Peace and justice,
ScottyFLL
>
> Blobtardia's hobby: http://tinyurl.com/yp6pnl(WARNING: Includes
> language such as "juicy shaved pussy that squirts")
>
> Carole shows Blobtardia who's the boss here: http://tinyurl.com/yvah46
Blobtardia, Usenet's fattest troll, has for all intents and purposes,
surrendered.
His humiliation, however, will never be complete. Somehow, he keeps
finding ways to HUMILIATE HIMSELF FURTHER!!!
For example, he recently tried to convince us of his vast wealth
(LOL!) by telling us he owns a POWER SAW!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gee, I wish *I* could be that rich!
But let it be known that publication of his "juicy shaved pussy that
squirts" ad has made him the laughingstock of Usenet, and all of his
posts, to any and all Usenet groups, are taken with a grain of salt
(make-believe salt, since his ridiculous posts are all make-believe).
He does make us laught, however:
On Jun 20, 9:38 pm, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> But I'm not fat
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Jun 18, 11:59 am, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm college educated
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!------!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ªºªandcarole
> On Dec 9, 9:35�pm, "J Baker" <b...@ass.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Boy Scouts Lose Philadelphia Lease For Not Allowing Sodomites In The Scouts
>
> > PHILADELPHIA -- For three years the Philadelphia council of the Boy Scouts
> > of America held its ground. It resisted the city's request to change its
> > discriminatory policy toward gay people despite threats that if it did not
> > do so, the city would evict the group from a municipal building where the
> > Scouts have resided practically rent free since 1928. Hailed as the
> > birthplace of the Boy Scouts, the Beaux Arts building is the seat of the
> > seventh-largest chapter of the organization and the first of the more than
> > 300 council service centers built by the Scouts around the country over the
> > past century. But over the years the fight between the city and the Scouts
> > was about more than this grandiose structure in Center City. Municipal
> > officials said the clash stemmed from a duty to defend civil rights and an
> > obligation to abide by a local law that bars taxpayer support for any group
> > that discriminates (against filthy sodomite sex offenders and predators).
>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/06/us/06scouts.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&o...
>
> Do you claim "victory" before or after you slop Sharon Sow?
>
> Speaking of pigs, here's Sharon now...oink oink
>
> http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2016/0006photojm2.jpg
>
> Where are the actual pictures of me or my family history,
> faggot salberg? After all, I have yours....
>
> BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA
>
> Here's a link to the Addams family:
>
> Here's the AIDS boy himself:http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8561/c9bd400b0270da790thumb1ly7.jpg
>
> Here's his fat ass sow of a mother:http://img411.imageshack.us/
> img411/2016/0006photojm2.jpg
>
> "I am so superior to you that you can't even see it"~ScottyFLL whines
> after another usenet ass-kicking.
>
> /}
> @###{ ]::::::bobandcarole::::::>
> \}
> Cutting faggot Scott Salberg to pieces daily- Hide quoted text -
Halsey Knox
<bshat...@comcast.net> mumbled:
>Peace and justice,
Clams and fries,
SMITH29
> SMITH29 wrote:
>
>> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>>
>>> SMITH29 wrote:
>
>>>> BSA policy is unchanged.
>>>> The politically correct is what has changed.
>>>> Becoming intolerant of BSA because it has a policy that has been in
>>>> effect for years is where the change came in.
>
>>> A policy which dates all the way back to, wait for it, 1991!
>
>> I guess it really doesn't matter the date of the policy incorporation.
>
> Then why did you find it relevant to claim that the policy has "been in
> effect for years".
>
> Which is literally correct but I doubt you intended to mean only 16 years.
The statement was and is correct. I went through this Scout thing with
another homosexual before you and research was done then regarding the
rules.
It simply was a non issue back in the 50's...
That meant no rule was necessary as everyone wishing to join was
straight and moral.
>
>> It's their policy and they make no explanation to anyone because it
>> isn't necessary or required to do so.
>
> Sure. And it's Philadelphia's meeting hall and it is not necessary or
> required for it to explain their leasing policy. Though they did.
xxxx
The city has to explain and that's why they did.
The city belongs to the citizens.
>
>>> The Boy Scouts of America managed to function for 81 years without
>>> such a policy.
>
>> I'm guessing they didn't feel the need to until they were forced to by
>> external pressure.
>
> Or they got taken over by a bunch of straight-laced ninnies.
xxxx
The Oath is the same and the function is the same. The situation came up
when homosexuals wanted to join and were turned down.
>
>> A person can't say the scout oath and be openly homosexual at the same
>> time.
>
> Sure they can.
xxxx
Read the oath to understand that they can't.
Quite obviously many were doing so before the BSA decided
> to get all huffy about it.
xxxx
It's the rules.
Now all of a sudden you want to join?
>
>>> http://www.scouting.org/nav/enter.jsp?s=xx&c=ds&terms=homosexuality
>
>> I strongly support their stand as a strongly moral organization that
>> opposes homosexuality and they need make no excuses.
>
> And ditto the City of Philadelphia.
xxxx
Yes, if homosexuality is required to lease city property then the Scouts
should leave city property. I'm glad you brought that up because the
city is going to be renamed Sodomelphia for sure. :-)
This action by the city makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing
the moral Scouts kicked out of a building because they won't let a
homosexual into the troop.
Scout bashing is a favorite pastime for militant activist homosexuals
and they do homosexuality a big favor by coaxing donors like me to NOT
donate further to anything that contributes to AIDS research.
>
>> In my scouting years homosexuality never came up. Their just were none
>> that were openly homosexual and I never had an encounter with a
>> homosexual in the Scouts or the Explorers that I can remember.
>
> Don't ask, don't tell.
xxxx
And lie? You can't take the oath and be homosexual.
>
>>> Meanwhile, the original Boy Scouts in Great Britain (founded by Baden
>>> Powell[1]) manage to function quite nicely under an
>>> anti-discrimination policy which includes homosexuals. As do the Boy
>>> Scouts in Canada.
>
>> They can do as they wish. I have no comment on their policy.
>
> But aren't the British Scouts just "clean" and "morally straight" as the
> BSA edition?
xxxx
You would have to ask them, not me.
>
>>> [1] And some serious questions have been raised about HIS sexuality!
>
>> Yes, I suppose the activists are out to screw up his name as retaliation
>> for not allowing them in the troop.
>
> Why would that "screw up his name"? Certainly his sexuality doesn't
> change anything he did or accomplished during his lifetime. Whatever
> accolades or censure he merits would seem completely unaffected by that.
xxxx
So why did you bring it up?
>
> All in all, his sexuality would seem entirely irrelevant. As would the
> sexuality of present day folks seeking to participate in Scouting.
xxxx
You don't understand what Scouting is about.
>
>> And if he is homosexual, so what? That has absolutely nothing to do
>> with BSA.
>
> Well, it would be a bit ironic if the BSA excluded the founder of the
> entire scouting movement.
xxxx
What part of no homosexuals don't you understand?
You want to dig up stuff on Powell?
Start here and show us your progress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Baden-Powell%27s_sexual_orientation
Dig deep and try to find some juicy stuff on a dead man.
The29
>
> Peace and justice,
>
Jaye Elke
> language such as "juicy shaved pussy that squirts")
>
> Carole shows Blobtardia who's the boss here: http://tinyurl.com/yvah46
ROTFLMAO!! GayBob just keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper! And
Carole's hole too! LMAO!
Bill Shatzer
> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>> SMITH29 wrote:
>>> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>>>> SMITH29 wrote:
>>>>> BSA policy is unchanged.
>>>>> The politically correct is what has changed.
>>>>> Becoming intolerant of BSA because it has a policy that has been in
>>>>> effect for years is where the change came in.
>>>> A policy which dates all the way back to, wait for it, 1991!
>>> I guess it really doesn't matter the date of the policy incorporation.
>> Then why did you find it relevant to claim that the policy has "been
>> in effect for years".
>> Which is literally correct but I doubt you intended to mean only 16
>> years.
> The statement was and is correct.
But why did you think it relevant?
> I went through this Scout thing with
> another homosexual before you and research was done then regarding the
> rules.
Whoa son. "Another homosexual"?
Ya' got that one more than a bit wrong.
Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with being a homosexual but
then there's nothing necessarily wrong with being a Dane either and I'm
not Danish either.
> It simply was a non issue back in the 50's...
> That meant no rule was necessary as everyone wishing to join was
> straight and moral.
Everyone was "straight and moral"? Nonsense. I was a boy scout myself
and the boy scouts, like almost all organizations had all sorts -
including more than a few immoral and amoral sorts.
You knew Charles Tex Whitman was an Eagle Scout, right? Before he
climbed that clock tower in Austin?
Ted Bundy was a Boy Scout as well.
Neither of whom seems all that moral to me.
And, of course, Barney Frank is a former boy scout. While he seems
perfectly straight (in the nonsexual sense) and moral to me, he
apparently wouldn't pass your test. Yet HE joined "back in the '50s".
You're deluding yourself if you think no homosexuals joined the Boy
Scouts "back in the day". And apparently a few mass/serial killers as well.
>>> It's their policy and they make no explanation to anyone because it
>>> isn't necessary or required to do so.
>> Sure. And it's Philadelphia's meeting hall and it is not necessary or
>> required for it to explain their leasing policy. Though they did.
> The city has to explain and that's why they did.
It has no obligation to explain.
> The city belongs to the citizens.
Nor do the citizens have any obligation to explain.
>>>> The Boy Scouts of America managed to function for 81 years without
>>>> such a policy.
>>> I'm guessing they didn't feel the need to until they were forced to
>>> by external pressure.
>> Or they got taken over by a bunch of straight-laced ninnies.
> The Oath is the same and the function is the same. The situation came up
> when homosexuals wanted to join and were turned down.
Dunno how to break this to ya' but homosexuals have been Boy Scouts
since there was a Boy Scouts.
We just had a couple folks who were openly gay apply.
And ya' notice many troops had no problem at all accepting 'em, both as
leaders and as members until the national office started getting all
huffy about it.
>>> A person can't say the scout oath and be openly homosexual at the
>>> same time.
>> Sure they can.
> Read the oath to understand that they can't.
Just checked. It's the same one I knew. No mention of homosexuality in
there at all.
And who the hell helps other people at ALL times anyway? Rather
obviously, the oath is rather more aspirational than proscriptive
>> Quite obviously many were doing so before the BSA decided
>> to get all huffy about it.
> It's the rules.
> Now all of a sudden you want to join?
Nah, BTDT. Even was an assistant scout master for a year. But with
advancing age, camping in the rain in a wet sleeping bag downwind from a
smoky campfire had less and less attraction. And I could just NEVER get
the hang of that "fire without matches" trick.
>>> I strongly support their stand as a strongly moral organization that
>>> opposes homosexuality and they need make no excuses.
>> And ditto the City of Philadelphia.
> Yes, if homosexuality is required to lease city property
Homosexuality is hardly "required". What is "required" is
non-discrimination.
> then the Scouts
> should leave city property. I'm glad you brought that up because the
> city is going to be renamed Sodomelphia for sure. :-)
Because it mandates non-discrimination against gays?
Then Philadelphia will be joined by perhaps 300 other cities and
municipalities which have similar nondiscrimination policies.
Pretty soon, ya' won't be able to keep the Sodemelphias straight without
the zip codes!
> This action by the city makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing
> the moral Scouts kicked out of a building because they won't let a
> homosexual into the troop.
Actually, the Scouts weren't evicted, they were merely asked to pay a
market rate rent rather than the sweetheart $1 a year rent they had
previously been paying.
Seeing how gays are Philadelphia citizens and are paying Philadelphia
taxes, it seems entirely appropriate that their tax moneys should not be
used to subsidize an organization which discriminates against them.
> Scout bashing is a favorite pastime for militant activist homosexuals
> and they do homosexuality a big favor by coaxing donors like me to NOT
> donate further to anything that contributes to AIDS research.
Whatever. The majority of AIDS sufferers are not homosexual.
>>> In my scouting years homosexuality never came up. Their just were
>>> none that were openly homosexual and I never had an encounter with a
>>> homosexual in the Scouts or the Explorers that I can remember.
>> Don't ask, don't tell.
> And lie? You can't take the oath and be homosexual.
One would presume then that you can't take the oath and be crippled
either - after all, you're supposed to keep yourself physically strong -
not something which comes easily if you're in a wheel chair.
And ya' can't take the oath and cease helping other people at any time?
Whenever do Boy Scouts sleep then?
[The oath is rather specific - "to help other people at ALL times". Or
is the oath rather like the Bible where you can pick and choose the
parts ya' like and disregard they parts ya' don't?]
>>>> Meanwhile, the original Boy Scouts in Great Britain (founded by
>>>> Baden Powell[1]) manage to function quite nicely under an
>>>> anti-discrimination policy which includes homosexuals. As do the
>>>> Boy Scouts in Canada.
>>> They can do as they wish. I have no comment on their policy.
>> But aren't the British Scouts just "clean" and "morally straight" as
>> the BSA edition?
> You would have to ask them, not me.
>>>> [1] And some serious questions have been raised about HIS sexuality!
>>> Yes, I suppose the activists are out to screw up his name as retaliation
>>> for not allowing them in the troop.
>> Why would that "screw up his name"? Certainly his sexuality doesn't
>> change anything he did or accomplished during his lifetime. Whatever
>> accolades or censure he merits would seem completely unaffected by that.
> So why did you bring it up?
Just to point out that the BSA should be more concerned with actual
deeds and actions and less concerned with sexuality.
Incidentally, can folks take the oath and be heterosexual?
"When you're looking for adventure
Of a new and different kind,
And you come across a Girl Scout
Who is similarly inclined.
Don't be nervous,
Don't be flustered,
Don't be scared.
Be prepared!"
>> All in all, his sexuality would seem entirely irrelevant. As would the
>> sexuality of present day folks seeking to participate in Scouting.
> You don't understand what Scouting is about.
In my experience, it largely consists of sitting around a smoky campfire
and telling dirty jokes. In fact, I think I heard my very first dirty
joke on a boy scout overnighter.
I suppose I should have resigned instantly?
The entire Antelope Patrol would have been gone!
>>> And if he is homosexual, so what? That has absolutely nothing to do
>>> with BSA.
>> Well, it would be a bit ironic if the BSA excluded the founder of the
>> entire scouting movement.
> What part of no homosexuals don't you understand?
The question might be better directed at you. You apparently have no
comprehension of them at all.
> You want to dig up stuff on Powell?
> Start here and show us your progress
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Baden-Powell%27s_sexual_orientation
> Dig deep and try to find some juicy stuff on a dead man.
No thanks. Just suggesting that Baden Powell might not pass the present
day litmus test. Though why the Scouts would exclude the Hero of Mafking
because who he loved seems a bit, well, perplexing.
He'd still be the Hero of Mafking, regardless.
Peace and justice,
Dionisio
> Then the world went nutso and sick - oh well...
"The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey
their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the
world is fast approaching."
-- Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
"Jesus preached and talked against a whole gamut of sins. He never mentioned homosexuality
at all. Only once did Saint Paul mention homosexuality, and it was in a long list of
things like selfishness and pride, and in the next verse he talks about forgiveness."
--Jimmy Carter, Jan. 10, 1997
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
Halsey Knox
<bshat...@comcast.net> mumbled:
>Whoa son.
How many children did you have "dad'?
Halsey Knox
<moc-rr-...@5ellimd.com> mumbled:
>Halsey Knox wrote:
>> Then the world went nutso and sick - oh well...
>
>"The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey
>their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the
>world is fast approaching."
>-- Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC
I'm not saying we haven't been in trouble before...
Scruffy McScruffovitch
lit...@faus.and, typed this:
I think his point is that every generation believes the world is blowing up
based on what is going on with following generations. But, the planet
ambles on nontheless.
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
SMITH29
> SMITH29 wrote:
>
>> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>
>>> SMITH29 wrote:
>
>>>> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>
>>>>> SMITH29 wrote:
>
>>>>>> BSA policy is unchanged.
>>>>>> The politically correct is what has changed.
>>>>>> Becoming intolerant of BSA because it has a policy that has been
>>>>>> in effect for years is where the change came in.
>
>>>>> A policy which dates all the way back to, wait for it, 1991!
>
>>>> I guess it really doesn't matter the date of the policy incorporation.
>
>>> Then why did you find it relevant to claim that the policy has "been
>>> in effect for years".
>
>>> Which is literally correct but I doubt you intended to mean only 16
>>> years.
>
>> The statement was and is correct.
>
> But why did you think it relevant?
Because refusing homosexuals is nothing new.
>
>> I went through this Scout thing with another homosexual before you and
>> research was done then regarding the rules.
>
> Whoa son. "Another homosexual"?
>
> Ya' got that one more than a bit wrong.
Here you are acting the part of the defense team all proud and glowing.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
>
> Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with being a homosexual but
> then there's nothing necessarily wrong with being a Dane either and I'm
> not Danish either.
xxxx
And yer not bent over right now but that proves nothing.
>
>> It simply was a non issue back in the 50's...
>> That meant no rule was necessary as everyone wishing to join was
>> straight and moral.
>
> Everyone was "straight and moral"? Nonsense. I was a boy scout myself
> and the boy scouts, like almost all organizations had all sorts -
> including more than a few immoral and amoral sorts.
xxxx
So nothing is perfect and this has nothing to do with homosexuals in the
Scouts.
>
> You knew Charles Tex Whitman was an Eagle Scout, right? Before he
> climbed that clock tower in Austin?
>
> Ted Bundy was a Boy Scout as well.
>
> Neither of whom seems all that moral to me.
xxxx
And what does this have to do with letting homosexuals into the Scouts?
>
> And, of course, Barney Frank is a former boy scout. While he seems
> perfectly straight (in the nonsexual sense) and moral to me, he
> apparently wouldn't pass your test. Yet HE joined "back in the '50s".
>
> You're deluding yourself if you think no homosexuals joined the Boy
> Scouts "back in the day". And apparently a few mass/serial killers as well.
xxxx
And none of this has a thing to do with allowing homosexuals into the
Scouts.
>
>>>> It's their policy and they make no explanation to anyone because it
>>>> isn't necessary or required to do so.
>
>>> Sure. And it's Philadelphia's meeting hall and it is not necessary
>>> or required for it to explain their leasing policy. Though they did.
>
>> The city has to explain and that's why they did.
>
> It has no obligation to explain.
>
>> The city belongs to the citizens.
>
> Nor do the citizens have any obligation to explain.
>
>>>>> The Boy Scouts of America managed to function for 81 years without
>>>>> such a policy.
>
>>>> I'm guessing they didn't feel the need to until they were forced to
>>>> by external pressure.
>
>>> Or they got taken over by a bunch of straight-laced ninnies.
>
>> The Oath is the same and the function is the same. The situation came
>> up when homosexuals wanted to join and were turned down.
>
> Dunno how to break this to ya' but homosexuals have been Boy Scouts
> since there was a Boy Scouts.
xxxx
I'm sure and they most likely minded their own business and didn't make
a scene about being homosexual.
>
> We just had a couple folks who were openly gay apply.
>
> And ya' notice many troops had no problem at all accepting 'em, both as
> leaders and as members until the national office started getting all
> huffy about it.
xxxx
A pledge is a pledge and if you keep your homosexuality to your self and
lie the oath you can pass.
>
>>>> A person can't say the scout oath and be openly homosexual at the
>>>> same time.
>
>>> Sure they can.
>
>> Read the oath to understand that they can't.
>
> Just checked. It's the same one I knew. No mention of homosexuality in
> there at all.
xxxx
Morally straight. That's excludes homosexuality.
>
> And who the hell helps other people at ALL times anyway? Rather
> obviously, the oath is rather more aspirational than proscriptive
xxxx
Another stray dog?
>
>>> Quite obviously many were doing so before the BSA decided
>>> to get all huffy about it.
>
>> It's the rules.
>> Now all of a sudden you want to join?
>
> Nah, BTDT. Even was an assistant scout master for a year. But with
> advancing age, camping in the rain in a wet sleeping bag downwind from a
> smoky campfire had less and less attraction. And I could just NEVER get
> the hang of that "fire without matches" trick.
>
>>>> I strongly support their stand as a strongly moral organization that
>>>> opposes homosexuality and they need make no excuses.
>
>>> And ditto the City of Philadelphia.
>
>> Yes, if homosexuality is required to lease city property
>
> Homosexuality is hardly "required". What is "required" is
> non-discrimination.
xxxx
You can bet that the Scouts will discriminate against homosexuals and I
agree with that position.
>
>> then the Scouts should leave city property. I'm glad you brought that
>> up because the city is going to be renamed Sodomelphia for sure. :-)
>
> Because it mandates non-discrimination against gays?
xxxx
In a private organization, YES!!!
When you force an immoral act on a private organization you are no
better than the Communists.
I don't have to hire homosexuals and I don't have to do anything for
them either.
>
> Then Philadelphia will be joined by perhaps 300 other cities and
> municipalities which have similar nondiscrimination policies.
>
> Pretty soon, ya' won't be able to keep the Sodemelphias straight without
> the zip codes!
xxxx
Disgusting to me!!
>
>> This action by the city makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside
>> seeing the moral Scouts kicked out of a building because they won't
>> let a homosexual into the troop.
>
> Actually, the Scouts weren't evicted, they were merely asked to pay a
> market rate rent rather than the sweetheart $1 a year rent they had
> previously been paying.
xxxx
200k is putative and the homosexuals have won a victory.
You all should get together and have a circle jerk or it.
>
> Seeing how gays are Philadelphia citizens and are paying Philadelphia
> taxes, it seems entirely appropriate that their tax moneys should not be
> used to subsidize an organization which discriminates against them.
xxxx
Yes, you homosexuals have won this one.
>
>> Scout bashing is a favorite pastime for militant activist homosexuals
>> and they do homosexuality a big favor by coaxing donors like me to NOT
>> donate further to anything that contributes to AIDS research.
>
> Whatever. The majority of AIDS sufferers are not homosexual.
xxxx
You get it off a toilet seat.
>
>>>> In my scouting years homosexuality never came up. Their just were
>>>> none that were openly homosexual and I never had an encounter with a
>>>> homosexual in the Scouts or the Explorers that I can remember.
>
>>> Don't ask, don't tell.
>
>> And lie? You can't take the oath and be homosexual.
>
> One would presume then that you can't take the oath and be crippled
> either - after all, you're supposed to keep yourself physically strong -
> not something which comes easily if you're in a wheel chair.
xxxx
Straw,,,,,
>
> And ya' can't take the oath and cease helping other people at any time?
xxxx
Straw,,,,,
>
> Whenever do Boy Scouts sleep then?
>
> [The oath is rather specific - "to help other people at ALL times". Or
> is the oath rather like the Bible where you can pick and choose the
> parts ya' like and disregard they parts ya' don't?]
xxxx
You lost this on Shatzie but be proud you can bash the Boy Scouts.
Yer so brave!!!!
>
>>>>> Meanwhile, the original Boy Scouts in Great Britain (founded by
>>>>> Baden Powell[1]) manage to function quite nicely under an
>>>>> anti-discrimination policy which includes homosexuals. As do the
>>>>> Boy Scouts in Canada.
>
>>>> They can do as they wish. I have no comment on their policy.
>
>>> But aren't the British Scouts just "clean" and "morally straight" as
>>> the BSA edition?
>
>> You would have to ask them, not me.
>
>>>>> [1] And some serious questions have been raised about HIS sexuality!
>
>>>> Yes, I suppose the activists are out to screw up his name as
>>>> retaliation
>>>> for not allowing them in the troop.
>
>>> Why would that "screw up his name"? Certainly his sexuality doesn't
>>> change anything he did or accomplished during his lifetime. Whatever
>>> accolades or censure he merits would seem completely unaffected by that.
>
>> So why did you bring it up?
>
> Just to point out that the BSA should be more concerned with actual
> deeds and actions and less concerned with sexuality.
xxxx
The oath!!
>
> Incidentally, can folks take the oath and be heterosexual?
xxxx
Straw,,,,
>
> "When you're looking for adventure
> Of a new and different kind,
> And you come across a Girl Scout
> Who is similarly inclined.
> Don't be nervous,
> Don't be flustered,
> Don't be scared.
> Be prepared!"
>
>>> All in all, his sexuality would seem entirely irrelevant. As would
>>> the sexuality of present day folks seeking to participate in Scouting.
>
>> You don't understand what Scouting is about.
>
> In my experience, it largely consists of sitting around a smoky campfire
> and telling dirty jokes. In fact, I think I heard my very first dirty
> joke on a boy scout overnighter.
>
> I suppose I should have resigned instantly?
>
> The entire Antelope Patrol would have been gone!
xxxx
Straw,,,,,,
>
>>>> And if he is homosexual, so what? That has absolutely nothing to do
>>>> with BSA.
>
>>> Well, it would be a bit ironic if the BSA excluded the founder of the
>>> entire scouting movement.
>
>> What part of no homosexuals don't you understand?
>
> The question might be better directed at you. You apparently have no
> comprehension of them at all.
xxxx
I see them sitting in the waiting room all thin and gray skin sweating.
What part have I missed Shatzy? Not seeing them die?
>
>> You want to dig up stuff on Powell?
>> Start here and show us your progress
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Baden-Powell%27s_sexual_orientation
>> Dig deep and try to find some juicy stuff on a dead man.
>
> No thanks. Just suggesting that Baden Powell might not pass the present
> day litmus test.
xxxx
A cheap shot with no future.
Though why the Scouts would exclude the Hero of Mafking
> because who he loved seems a bit, well, perplexing.
>
> He'd still be the Hero of Mafking, regardless.
>
> Peace and justice,
xxxx
Justice? you want revenge on boy scouts for not allowing
homosexuals into a private organization.
Who's next Shatzie? Gonna sweat the Girl Scouts next?
The29
>
>
>
SMITH29
> SMITH29 wrote:
>
I forgot to add this:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GFRD_enUS217US217&q=philadelphia+boy+scouts
Dionisio
> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>> Then why did you find it relevant to claim that the policy has "been
>> in effect for years".
>>
>> Which is literally correct but I doubt you intended to mean only 16
>> years.
> xxxx
> The statement was and is correct. I went through this Scout thing with
> another homosexual before you and research was done then regarding the
> rules.
Forgotten much?
> It simply was a non issue back in the 50's...
> That meant no rule was necessary as everyone wishing to join was
> straight and moral.
Aside from the knowing looks, and diary entries, the "scandals" which were quickly
smothered in non-reporting... Funny things can be found in the trunks of departed elderly
Scouts...
Had I known when I ran across the coverage of a '20s-era Scout's diary -- penmanship was
important then -- that the Scouts would be so prim and dainty just a few years later; I'd
have added it to the Archive.
As it was, I just chuckled, finished the paper, and tossed it.
>> Sure. And it's Philadelphia's meeting hall and it is not necessary or
>> required for it to explain their leasing policy. Though they did.
> xxxx
> The city has to explain and that's why they did.
> The city belongs to the citizens.
All the citizens?
>>>> The Boy Scouts of America managed to function for 81 years without
>>>> such a policy.
>>> I'm guessing they didn't feel the need to until they were forced to
>>> by external pressure.
>> Or they got taken over by a bunch of straight-laced ninnies.
> xxxx
> The Oath is the same and the function is the same. The situation came up
> when homosexuals wanted to join and were turned down.
Ah. The Oath. All hung up on that usage of "straight" are ya? Pondered what "straight"
meant and conveyed when the Oath was penned? "Upright" and "true" come to mind. Back then,
a "straight man" was part of a comedy team.
But some folks are so obsessed with sex, that they had to pervert that understood fact.
They insisted that it *really* meant something no lexicographer of the time then, nor of
the time now, could document or will be able to document.
Yep, the Scouting leadership perverted the Oath! (How honest, moral, true, upright, and
straight of them...)
> Yes, if homosexuality is required to lease city property then the Scouts
> should leave city property. I'm glad you brought that up because the
> city is going to be renamed Sodomelphia for sure. :-)
> This action by the city makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing
> the moral Scouts kicked out of a building because they won't let a
> homosexual into the troop.
Let's see, here... Uniforms, handbooks, trip costs, activity fees, donations from wealthy
benefactors, various fundraising activities done with workers who aren't paid...
Scouting will die if they have to rent a facility that costs more than most folks spend at
Starbucks for one morning's coffee?!? Smacks of a bit of creative bookkeeping if you ask me.
And nobody but the city will *give* them meeting or office space? Not even former Scouts?
Hmm...
And say, isn't there a Carpentry Merit Badge? They can't build their own HQ?!
Talk about f-ing whiners! "We want our handout! And we'll pout if you say 'no'!"
Pardon the incredulity on my part, but are you a new classification of Moron?
> Scout bashing is a favorite pastime for militant activist homosexuals
> and they do homosexuality a big favor by coaxing donors like me to NOT
> donate further to anything that contributes to AIDS research.
Hmm... You couldn't care less about helping the heterosexuals? Yes, now that I ponder it,
that does seem to fit your MO. Haven't seen you boasting of helping the Scouts obtain new
facilities either.
Will someone cue the Church Lady?
>> But aren't the British Scouts just "clean" and "morally straight" as
>> the BSA edition?
> xxxx
> You would have to ask them, not me.
All that "research," so little retention...
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
Did it ever occur to you that the reason you don't go around declaring pride in your
heterosexuality is that YOU'RE NOT OPPRESSED!!!! YOU'RE NOT TOLD FROM BIRTH THAT YOU'RE
SCUM, THAT YOU'RE A PERVERT AND THAT YOU DESERVE TO DIE???
-- 72230...@CompuServe.COM (Mark Milano), 17 Aug 1995
Dionisio
> Who's next Shatzie? Gonna sweat the Girl Scouts next?
<droll> Unaware that the Girl Scouts don't care? </droll>
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
The most fortunate type of prince, according to Machiavelli -- the man the Elizabethans
loved to hate -- is the prince of the church: These princes alone have states without
defending them, have subjects without governing them, and their states, not being
defended, are not taken from them; Their subjects, not being governed, do not resent it,
and neither think nor are capable of alienating themselves from them.
SMITH29
> SMITH29 wrote:
>> Who's next Shatzie? Gonna sweat the Girl Scouts next?
>
> <droll> Unaware that the Girl Scouts don't care? </droll>
>
>
About admitting homosexual males?
We'll see about that.
29
Lobby Dosser
Halsey Knox
<lobby.dos...@verizon.net> mumbled:
OMG!
Forgot about that...the master eagle scout boast...
The pieces are coming together rapidly...
SMITH29
>> SMITH29 wrote:
>
> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>> Scout bashing is a favorite pastime for militant activist homosexuals
>> and they do homosexuality a big favor by coaxing donors like me to NOT
>> donate further to anything that contributes to AIDS research.
>
> Whatever. The majority of AIDS sufferers are not homosexual.
xxxx
You dirty infected bastards have the nerve to twist the stats to make it
look like you didn't do it.
You did it all and you should be judged for infecting the population.
You will get yours......
http://www.avert.org/statsum.htm
29
>
SMITH29
LOL
Damn your Brit humor :-) Yer breaking up my train of thought.....
You blew me away with that.
No One
Take an anger management class, and while you are at it, a remedial
course in arithmetic. The web site you just quoted implies that 45%
of HIV cases are men with male sex partners: you have to multiple 0.59
(the fraction of males in the MSM catagory by 0.77 (the fraction of
people living with AIDS who are male), and then by 100 to get the
percentage, but those numbers (59% and 77%) are on the web page you
cited.
lein
wrote:
> "lein" <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fd8f5ca4-dc53-4edc...@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Dec 11, 8:52 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> > wrote:
> >> "lein" <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:6897951a-a819-4ee8...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > that uplifts society all the while offering nothing simular.
>
> >> The BSA destroyed itself.
>
> > Not at all.
>
> You're blind.
>
> The BSA became religiously intolerant and exclusionary. No one on the left
> forced them to do that.
>
It's not the BSA who changed.
lein
> SMITH29 wrote:
> > The politically correct is what has changed.
> > Becoming intolerant of BSA because it has a policy that has been in
> > effect for years is where the change came in.
>
> A policy which dates all the way back to, wait for it, 1991!
>
> a policy.
>
> Powell[1]) manage to function quite nicely under an anti-discrimination
> policy which includes homosexuals. As do the Boy Scouts in Canada.
>
>
The boy scouts allows gays to participate. They just don't accept
it's members making sex and sexual orientation a part of the tote and
chip requirement.
lein
That's just fine and dandy for those organizations. They would do
just fine without as a wood badge ought to be about what grows in the
forest, not in your pants.
But you are more than free to create your own organization, that
uplifts society and allows all genders, transgenders, transformers, bi-
genders to your hearts content. It would be a better use of your
time than tearing down others.
>
> [1] And some serious questions have been raised about HIS sexuality!
So what, the BSA doesn't care if you are gay as long as you accept
it's not the appropriate organization to spend time discussing what
it's like to be gay. Kinds working on their merit badges don't need
such clutter.
Clave
news:f5586917-1316-4b01...@b1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
WTF are you talking about? Of course they did.
You've had your nose rubbed in that already.
Jim
Clave
<...>
> The boy scouts allows gays to participate.
Rubbish.
Jim
Bill Shatzer
> Bill Shatzer wrote:
-snip-
>>> It simply was a non issue back in the 50's...
>>> That meant no rule was necessary as everyone wishing to join was
>>> straight and moral.
>> Everyone was "straight and moral"? Nonsense. I was a boy scout myself
>> and the boy scouts, like almost all organizations had all sorts -
>> including more than a few immoral and amoral sorts.
>> You knew Charles Tex Whitman was an Eagle Scout, right? Before he
>> climbed that clock tower in Austin?
>> Ted Bundy was a Boy Scout as well.
>> Neither of whom seems all that moral to me.
> And what does this have to do with letting homosexuals into the Scouts?
So homosexuals are out and serial killers are in?
Funny sense of priority, that.
Still, clearly everyone wishing to join (and actually joining) was NOT
"straight and moral". Whitman and Bundy may have been straight but they
sure as shit weren't moral.
>> And, of course, Barney Frank is a former boy scout. While he seems
>> perfectly straight (in the nonsexual sense) and moral to me, he
>> apparently wouldn't pass your test. Yet HE joined "back in the '50s".
>> You're deluding yourself if you think no homosexuals joined the Boy
>> Scouts "back in the day". And apparently a few mass/serial killers as
>> well.
> And none of this has a thing to do with allowing homosexuals into the
> Scouts.
Well, Barney Frank is, as they say, as fruity as a salad and HE was
seeking to join (and did join) the Scouts.
Which kinda refutes your little lie about -everyone- seeking to join was
straight and moral.
Though I have no problem with Frank's morality, he's decidedly not straight.
And, as Frank was born in 1940, that would put his Boy Scout joining
days squarely in the 1950s.
Peace and justice,
Bill Shatzer
> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>
>> SMITH29 wrote:
-snip-
>> Homosexuality is hardly "required". What is "required" is
>> non-discrimination.
> You can bet that the Scouts will discriminate against homosexuals and I
> agree with that position.
And you can bet the City of Philadelphia won't lease 'em its building at
a buck a year.
But when the Scouts exercise their "right" to discriminate, they should
hardly be surprised when the City exercises its right to charge market
rate rents.
>>> then the Scouts should leave city property. I'm glad you brought that
>>> up because the city is going to be renamed Sodomelphia for sure. :-)
>> Because it mandates non-discrimination against gays?
> In a private organization, YES!!!
You shift rather quickly without much logical connections.
Still, the City of Philadelphia is NOT a private organization. It is
very much a public one. And, as such, should not be aiding and abetting
discrimination.
Which seems altogether how things should be. The Scouts are free to
discriminate; the City is free to decline to subsidize their
discrimination. Works for me.
> When you force an immoral act on a private organization you are no
> better than the Communists.
Heh! Nobody's being "forced". The City is merely ending its subsidy.
> I don't have to hire homosexuals and I don't have to do anything for
> them either.
Well, iffen you're hiring in the State of Oregon, you sure as hell
better not be discriminating against them in your hiring.
Elsewise, you could end up on the wrong end of a civil rights law suit.
-snip-
>> Actually, the Scouts weren't evicted, they were merely asked to pay a
>> market rate rent rather than the sweetheart $1 a year rent they had
>> previously been paying.
> 200k is putative
$200 K is market rate. No more, no less.
> and the homosexuals have won a victory.
Hooray for them, then.
> You all should get together and have a circle jerk or it.
My, how you DO quickly regress to things sexual.
Are you, perhaps, repressing something here?
>> Seeing how gays are Philadelphia citizens and are paying Philadelphia
>> taxes, it seems entirely appropriate that their tax moneys should not
>> be used to subsidize an organization which discriminates against them.
> Yes, you homosexuals have won this one.
Actually, basic fairness and justice have "won" one.
>>> Scout bashing is a favorite pastime for militant activist homosexuals
>>> and they do homosexuality a big favor by coaxing donors like me to
>>> NOT donate further to anything that contributes to AIDS research.
>> Whatever. The majority of AIDS sufferers are not homosexual.
> You get it off a toilet seat.
Not that either.
-snip-
>> Whenever do Boy Scouts sleep then?
>>
>> [The oath is rather specific - "to help other people at ALL times". Or
>> is the oath rather like the Bible where you can pick and choose the
>> parts ya' like and disregard they parts ya' don't?]
> You lost this on Shatzie but be proud you can bash the Boy Scouts.
Sorry, child. This is the amUsenet and there are no winners or losers.
If there were, you'd certainly not be the one to declare them.
> Yer so brave!!!!
Probably about as brave and cowardly as the average person. Bravery
tends to be quite situational.
-snip-
>> Incidentally, can folks take the oath and be heterosexual?
> Straw,,,,
Not at all. It would seem heterosexual sex would be every bit as
immoral as homosexual relations.
Though I understand the BSA doesn't look only to actual relations but
rather to orientation as well. A chaste homosexual is out but a
libertine heterosexual is in.
Seems strange, that.
>>>> All in all, his sexuality would seem entirely irrelevant. As would
>>>> the sexuality of present day folks seeking to participate in Scouting.
>>> You don't understand what Scouting is about.
The troop I was in sure wasn't about discriminating against folks.
>> In my experience, it largely consists of sitting around a smoky
>> campfire and telling dirty jokes. In fact, I think I heard my very
>> first dirty joke on a boy scout overnighter.
>> I suppose I should have resigned instantly?
>> The entire Antelope Patrol would have been gone!
> Straw,,,,,,
Ah, so dirty jokes ARE ok and are consistent with the oath?
Boy, that's a load off my mind.
-snip-
> Justice? you want revenge on boy scouts for not allowing
> homosexuals into a private organization.
Don't want revenge. Just think it's entirely appropriate to refuse to
subsidize them as long as they do so.
> Who's next Shatzie? Gonna sweat the Girl Scouts next?
Not unless they start discriminating while asking for public subsidies.
But, unlike the Boy Scouts, the Girl Scouts don't discriminate.
And they encourage members to attach whatever meaning they might wish to
the word "god" in the Girl Scout Promise - which, encouragingly, they no
longer call an "oath".
Peace and justice,
Bill Shatzer
Child, no one requires a URL to run a google search.
And as your URL merely returns 385,000 google hits, it's less than
worthless.
Ain't no one going to wade through 385,000 hits to try and figure out
your point - assuming there is one.
You'd have been better off leaving it forgotten and unadded.
Peace and justice,
Halsey Knox
<Scru...@FAM.NET> mumbled:
>In News 7011m31ikur3v03pa...@4ax.com,, Halsey Knox at
>lit...@faus.and, typed this:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:48:37 -0500, Dionisio
>> <moc-rr-...@5ellimd.com> mumbled:
>>
>>> Halsey Knox wrote:
>>>> Then the world went nutso and sick - oh well...
>>>
>>> "The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound.
>>> Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a
>>> book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast
>>> approaching." -- Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC
>>
>> I'm not saying we haven't been in trouble before...
>
>I think his point is that every generation believes the world is blowing up
>based on what is going on with following generations. But, the planet
>ambles on nontheless.
Through cycles of sheer depravity and occasional periods of relative
sanity.
No sense letting depravity get a lasting toehold.
Halsey Knox
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> mumbled:
>Rubbish.
Clam fart.
Halsey Knox
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> mumbled:
>You've had your nose rubbed in that already.
Training your wife again clammie?
Halsey Knox
<bshat...@comcast.net> mumbled:
>Peace and justice,
Flowers and candy,
Scruffy McScruffovitch
lit...@faus.and, typed this:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:12:59 -0500, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
> <Scru...@FAM.NET> mumbled:
>
>> In News 7011m31ikur3v03pa...@4ax.com,, Halsey Knox at
>> lit...@faus.and, typed this:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:48:37 -0500, Dionisio
>>> <moc-rr-...@5ellimd.com> mumbled:
>>>
>>>> Halsey Knox wrote:
>>>>> Then the world went nutso and sick - oh well...
>>>>
>>>> "The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound.
>>>> Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a
>>>> book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast
>>>> approaching." -- Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC
>>>
>>> I'm not saying we haven't been in trouble before...
>>
>> I think his point is that every generation believes the world is
>> blowing up based on what is going on with following generations.
>> But, the planet ambles on nontheless.
>
> Through cycles of sheer depravity and occasional periods of relative
> sanity.
>
> No sense letting depravity get a lasting toehold.
So, you were depraved when you were young?
Prof. Cal Meacham
<Scru...@FAM.NET> mumbled:
>In News e2a1m39gudpcigqro...@4ax.com,, Halsey Knox at
>lit...@faus.and, typed this:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:12:59 -0500, "Scruffy McScruffovitch"
>> <Scru...@FAM.NET> mumbled:
>>
>>> In News 7011m31ikur3v03pa...@4ax.com,, Halsey Knox at
>>> lit...@faus.and, typed this:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:48:37 -0500, Dionisio
>>>> <moc-rr-...@5ellimd.com> mumbled:
>>>>
>>>>> Halsey Knox wrote:
>>>>>> Then the world went nutso and sick - oh well...
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound.
>>>>> Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a
>>>>> book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast
>>>>> approaching." -- Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC
>>>>
>>>> I'm not saying we haven't been in trouble before...
>>>
>>> I think his point is that every generation believes the world is
>>> blowing up based on what is going on with following generations.
>>> But, the planet ambles on nontheless.
>>
>> Through cycles of sheer depravity and occasional periods of relative
>> sanity.
>>
>> No sense letting depravity get a lasting toehold.
>
>So, you were depraved
So you are now?
SMITH29
> SMITH29 wrote:
>
>> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>
> -snip-
>
>>>> It simply was a non issue back in the 50's...
>>>> That meant no rule was necessary as everyone wishing to join was
>>>> straight and moral.
>
>>> Everyone was "straight and moral"? Nonsense. I was a boy scout
>>> myself and the boy scouts, like almost all organizations had all
>>> sorts - including more than a few immoral and amoral sorts.
>
>>> You knew Charles Tex Whitman was an Eagle Scout, right? Before he
>>> climbed that clock tower in Austin?
>
>>> Ted Bundy was a Boy Scout as well.
>
>>> Neither of whom seems all that moral to me.
>
>> And what does this have to do with letting homosexuals into the Scouts?
>
> So homosexuals are out and serial killers are in?
xxxx
Enough of this silliness.
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SMITH29
Works for me too.
>
>> When you force an immoral act on a private organization you are no
>> better than the Communists.
>
> Heh! Nobody's being "forced". The City is merely ending its subsidy.
>
>> I don't have to hire homosexuals and I don't have to do anything for
>> them either.
>
> Well, iffen you're hiring in the State of Oregon, you sure as hell
> better not be discriminating against them in your hiring.
Regardless of the state nobody is going to force me to hire someone I
don't want.
>
> Elsewise, you could end up on the wrong end of a civil rights law suit.
>
> -snip-
>
>>> Actually, the Scouts weren't evicted, they were merely asked to pay a
>>> market rate rent rather than the sweetheart $1 a year rent they had
>>> previously been paying.
>
>> 200k is putative
>
> $200 K is market rate. No more, no less.
>
>> and the homosexuals have won a victory.
>
> Hooray for them, then.
>
>> You all should get together and have a circle jerk or it.
>
> My, how you DO quickly regress to things sexual.
In case you haven't figured it out this whole matter is about anal sex
between males.
SODOMY is the term...
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>
SMITH29
Trustworthy. Loyal. Helpful. Friendly. Courteous. Kind. Obedient.
Cheerful. Thrifty. Brave. Clean. Reverent.
Nothing has changed, it's just being enforced.
We believe that homosexuality is not clean or reverent.
If you liberal types want an organization that welcomes homosexuality
you should start one.
A good name would be the " Brownies " and you could have brown uniforms
and camp in the woods like Boy Scouts do.
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Prof. Cal Meacham
mumbled:
Shatzie's just angling for an in...
Prof. Cal Meacham
mumbled:
Shatzie thought that was an appetizer...
SMITH29
> SMITH29 wrote:
>
>> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>>
>>> SMITH29 wrote:
>
>> I forgot to add this:
>> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GFRD_enUS217US217&q=philadelphia+boy+scouts
>
>
> Child,
I'm 67. How old are you?
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Bill Shatzer
> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>
>> SMITH29 wrote:
-snip-
>>> I don't have to hire homosexuals and I don't have to do anything for
>>> them either.
>> Well, iffen you're hiring in the State of Oregon, you sure as hell
>> better not be discriminating against them in your hiring.
> Regardless of the state nobody is going to force me to hire someone I
> don't want.
You got that right slick. No one's going to force you to hire anyone.
OTOH, they may be quite able and willing to force you to pay damages
well into the six or seven figures if you discriminate in your hiring
practices.
-snip-
>>> You all should get together and have a circle jerk or it.
>> My, how you DO quickly regress to things sexual.
> In case you haven't figured it out this whole matter is about anal sex
> between males.
> SODOMY is the term...
Actually, that term encompasses a surprising variety of heterosexual
practices as well.
But again I note your fascination with things sexual.
You wouldn't be repressing something, now would you?
Peace and justice,
Dionisio
> Dionisio wrote:
>> SMITH29 wrote:
>>> Who's next Shatzie? Gonna sweat the Girl Scouts next?
> xxxx
> About admitting homosexual males?
> We'll see about that.
Go ahead. You should find several.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious
things: Freedom of speech, freedom of conscious, and the prudence never to practice either.
-- Mark Twain
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
Dionisio
> You dirty infected bastards have the nerve to twist the stats to make it
> look like you didn't do it.
Hmm... Fancy you having the nerve to complain about folks "twisting" things.
Or is this the ol' "The world begins and ends at the US borders"?
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
SMITH29
xxxx
I think he wants to come out of the closet and tell us he's
a homosexual.
He's struggling in here to justify homosexuals in leadership rolls
but that isn't going to fly.
Trustworthy. Loyal. Helpful. Friendly. Courteous. Kind. Obedient.
Cheerful. Thrifty. Brave. Clean. Reverent.
He can't comply.
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Dionisio
> No sense letting depravity get a lasting toehold.
Why not? Try it, you might like it. If you don't, you simply weren't inventive enough.
By the by, we've had politicians and Catholics for quite some time.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me
and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
SMITH29
> SMITH29 wrote:
>
>> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>>
>>> SMITH29 wrote:
>
> -snip-
>
>>>> I don't have to hire homosexuals and I don't have to do anything for
>>>> them either.
>
>>> Well, iffen you're hiring in the State of Oregon, you sure as hell
>>> better not be discriminating against them in your hiring.
>
>> Regardless of the state nobody is going to force me to hire someone I
>> don't want.
>
> You got that right slick. No one's going to force you to hire anyone.
>
> OTOH, they may be quite able and willing to force you to pay damages
> well into the six or seven figures if you discriminate in your hiring
> practices.
Stay awake nights worrying, Slick.
>
> -snip-
>
>>>> You all should get together and have a circle jerk or it.
>
>>> My, how you DO quickly regress to things sexual.
>
>> In case you haven't figured it out this whole matter is about anal sex
>> between males.
>> SODOMY is the term...
>
> Actually, that term encompasses a surprising variety of heterosexual
> practices as well.
I'm sure you know from experience I don't care to read about.
I'm not homosexual and don't want and advancements from you or any other
homo.
>
> But again I note your fascination with things sexual.
Like your strong defense of homosexuals being in the BSA?
That a long time goal of yours?
>
> You wouldn't be repressing something, now would you?
Just thoughts of how to reduce AIDS funding by the government.
You homosexuals should pay your own bills for the illness you create
through Sodomy.....
Why should the whole tax base pay for your sins?
29
>
> Peace and justice,
>
>
SMITH29
> SMITH29 wrote:
>> You dirty infected bastards have the nerve to twist the stats to make
>> it look like you didn't do it.
>
> Hmm... Fancy you having the nerve to complain about folks "twisting"
> things.
>
> Or is this the ol' "The world begins and ends at the US borders"?
>
>
Good fodder for a new thread.
You start it and I will join.
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SMITH29
> SMITH29 wrote:
>> Dionisio wrote:
>>> SMITH29 wrote:
>>>> Who's next Shatzie? Gonna sweat the Girl Scouts next?
>>> <droll> Unaware that the Girl Scouts don't care? </droll>
>> xxxx
>> About admitting homosexual males?
>> We'll see about that.
>
> Go ahead. You should find several.
>
I guess jumping girl butt is a change of pace all right.
Infecting girls takes the heat off blaming just the males.
Shatzie tried that already......
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SMITH29
> Halsey Knox wrote:
>
>> No sense letting depravity get a lasting toehold.
>
> Why not? Try it, you might like it. If you don't, you simply weren't
> inventive enough.
>
> By the by, we've had politicians and Catholics for quite some time.
>
>
I was servicing a AIDS homosexual clinic's x-ray and on visits I would
see the patients coming through.
It was shocking to see the young lads.
All gaunt with gray wet skin and a look of sad desperation.
A HELL of a way to die......... And they all did.
Project funding ended and the clinic closed as they all should.
Homosexuals should pay their own way to the grave. I for one am
tired of paying for your shit.
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Scruffy McScruffovitch
th...@island.earth, typed this:
Never have been, but you claimed to be. Where you depraved when you were
younger?
Lobby Dosser
I've lost track. Is Shitzer calling Homuth a Homosexual or a Serial
Killer?
Prof. Cal Meacham
Prof. Cal Meacham
Prof. Cal Meacham
<bshat...@comcast.net> mumbled:
>Peace and justice,
Raisins and bran,
Prof. Cal Meacham
<moc-rr-...@5ellimd.com> mumbled:
>SMITH29 wrote:
>> You dirty infected bastards have the nerve to twist the stats to make it
>> look like you didn't do it.
>
>Hmm... Fancy you having the nerve to complain about folks "twisting" things.
>
>Or is this the ol' "The world begins and ends at the US borders"?
Approach one, let's play that hand out and see...
Prof. Cal Meacham
mumbled:
Curt already has...
>He's struggling in here to justify homosexuals in leadership rolls
>but that isn't going to fly.
Nope.
>Trustworthy. Loyal. Helpful. Friendly. Courteous. Kind. Obedient.
>Cheerful. Thrifty. Brave. Clean. Reverent.
>
>He can't comply.
>
>29
But he can whip up a heckuva souffle!
Prof. Cal Meacham
<moc-rr-...@5ellimd.com> mumbled:
>Halsey Knox wrote:
>
>> No sense letting depravity get a lasting toehold.
>
>Why not?
Toxic.
Prof. Cal Meacham
mumbled:
>Dionisio wrote:
Mind if I mine the perimeter first?
Prof. Cal Meacham
mumbled:
It's the muzzie lifestyle, saves em having to explain lost
virginity....
Prof. Cal Meacham
mumbled:
Damn, that is a sad story for sure.
Prof. Cal Meacham
SMITH29
I proposed that idea to Gregory Gadow open political homosexual and so
far as I know nothing ever happened.
The homosexuals want to piss on our camp fire and won't start one of
their own for fear we will show with a fire department battalion.
We can hit them soooo hard just by going anti homosexual in attitude and
contributions for AIDS. Make sure your contributions don't go to any
homosexual group and we should get on the government to dry up any AIDS
funds as well. Let the homosexuals pay their own medical bills and
funeral costs.
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Prof. Cal Meacham
<lobby.dos...@verizon.net> mumbled:
I could make a case for either...
Scruffy McScruffovitch
th...@island.earth, typed this:
Everything you post is bullshit, depravo.
Prof. Cal Meacham
mumbled:
It's called PPD - pay per death....
Prof. Cal Meacham
<Scru...@FAM.NET> mumbled:
>Everything I post is bullshit, depravo.
I know.
Scruffy McScruffovitch
th...@island.earth, typed this:
>> Everything you post is bullshit, depravo.
>
> I know.
Well, glad we could agree.
Prof. Cal Meacham
<Scru...@FAM.NET> mumbled:
On your insipidity - any time.
Scruffy McScruffovitch
th...@island.earth, typed this:
> On my insipidity - any time.
Of course.
Lobby Dosser
He was doing that when he was 12.
No One
> The homosexuals want to piss on our camp fire and won't start one of
> their own for fear we will show with a fire department battalion.
> We can hit them soooo hard just by going anti homosexual in attitude
> and contributions for AIDS. Make sure your contributions don't go to
> any homosexual group and we should get on the government to dry up any
> AIDS
> funds as well. Let the homosexuals pay their own medical bills and
> funeral costs.
... and in a similar vein, let's make woman pay their own medical
bills for pregnancy-related medical care and not get time off work
with pay for maternity leave, and we can make skiers pay for any
broken legs. By the time you're done, the country will have turned
into such a worthless pit that nobody but you would want to live here.
Of course, what you are whining about is that Philadelphia is simply
following a non-descrimination law that does not allow the city to
subsidize groups that descriminate. It's perfectly sensible - why
should the tax dollars of people whom a group descriminates against
go to support that group? That's all that is involved here. Such
laws were orginally set up to protect racial minorities and were
then expanded over time to include other groups. When they added
sexual orientation to the list of criteria, nobody thought about the
boy scouts one way or the other.
Prof. Cal Meacham
<Scru...@FAM.NET> mumbled:
>> On your insipidity - any time.
>
>Of course.
Indubitably...
Prof. Cal Meacham
<lobby.dos...@verizon.net> mumbled:
>Prof. Cal Meacham <th...@island.earth> wrote:
OK, 80 grams....
Isn't that actionable?