Woodward owns Obama...

[Yer Pal Al]

Obama retaliates, you will "regret doing this".

http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-woodward-obama-sequester-white-house-reporting-price-politics-2013-2

[Moses]

The last motherf*cker that took on Woodward ended up resigning the
presidency. Go ahead make his day!

[Long Dong]

We can only pray for it to happen again.

[1916 murdered in Obama's organized communities]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:50:26 -0800 (PST), Yer Pal Al
<caddys...@gmail.com> wrote:

There's nothing wrong with Obama that a perp-walk wouldn't fix. What
a fascist li'l bastard!

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Long Dong" wrote in message news:kgmofl$upu$1...@wieslauf.sub.de...

>
>We can only pray for it to happen again.

That is so true - that the only thing your impotent little America hating
ass can do is pray.
You tried voting, you tried lobbying, you tried racism - but all you did was
get him re-elected.

[Long Dong]

The Kenyan promised free stuff, and Romney promised jobs. The lazy and
jealous said "Fuck jobs!" See,you parasites now outnumber the people
supporting your families. Fortunately for you, your mother gives you
money for gas, feeds you, and all you have to do is beg from successful
Americans and accept charity. You are a drug addled retarded victim of
an incestuous coupling. The fluoridated water in Texas turned you into a
Communist.

[hal lillywhite]

On 27 feb, 22:57, Moses <Moses.of.the.bibl...@gmail.com-DESPAM> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:50:26 -0800 (PST), Yer Pal Al
>

> <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Obama retaliates, you will "regret doing this".
>

> >http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-woodward-obama-sequester-white-hou...

>
> The last motherf*cker that took on Woodward ended up resigning the
> presidency.  Go ahead make his day!

But who will play the role of Gerald Ford today? And how will Biden
be forced out? Nixon had Agnew who scared the bejeebers out of people
who considered impeachment till he was forced out. Once Ford was VP
it looked safe to go after Nixon. Similarly with Biden today, I doubt
anyone in congress wants to see him become president. (Though I
suspect he might not be as bad as what we have. I didn't believe that
a couple of years ago but with Obama's actions of late I may change my
mind.)

[hal lillywhite]

On 27 feb, 21:50, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Obama retaliates, you will "regret doing this".
>

> http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-woodward-obama-sequester-white-hou...

And now there is a report of another news guy being threatened by the
White House.

http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?pt=WMAL+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Woodward%27s+Not+Alone+-+Fmr.+Clinton+Aide+Davis+Says+He+Received+White+House+Threat&id=8924&is_corp=0

If the story is true, they told the publication's editor, "that if he
continued to run my columns, he would lose, or his reporters would
lose their White House credentials."

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"hal lillywhite" <hlil...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On 27 feb, 21:50, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Obama retaliates, you will "regret doing this".
>>
>> http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-woodward-obama-sequester-white-hou...
>
> And now there is a report of another news guy being threatened by the
> White House.
>
> http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?pt=WMAL+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Woodward

>27s+Not+Alone+-+Fmr.+Clinton+Aide+Davis+Says+He+Received

>+White+House+Threat&id=8924&is_corp=0
>
> If the story is true, they told the publication's editor, "that if he
> continued to run my columns, he would lose, or his reporters would
> lose their White House credentials."

It's about time they are held accountable for their slanders/libels.

[Yer Pal Al]

On Feb 28, 8:07 am, "Baxter" <baxter.spambl...@baxcode.com> wrote:
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>
> news:3fd70fd0-40ae-43cb...@y2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 27 feb, 21:50, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Obama retaliates, you will "regret doing this".
>
> >>http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-woodward-obama-sequester-white-hou...
>
> > And now there is a report of another news guy being threatened by the
> > White House.
>
> >http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?pt=WMAL+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Woodward
> >27s+Not+Alone+-+Fmr.+Clinton+Aide+Davis+Says+He+Received
> >+White+House+Threat&id=8924&is_corp=0
>
> > If the story is true, they told the publication's editor, "that if he
> > continued to run my columns, he would lose, or his reporters would
> > lose their White House credentials."
>
> It's about time they are held accountable for their slanders/libels.

Woodward is a journalist and not a lapdog. Barry Hussein sees him as a
threat.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Long Dong" wrote in message news:kgn3tc$55t$1...@wieslauf.sub.de...

>
>The Kenyan promised free stuff, and Romney promised jobs. The lazy and

I see you've been forced to post you racist Republican from a new service.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"hal lillywhite" wrote in message
news:f2e722cb-f621-4571...@vh9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...

>I didn't believe that a couple of years ago but

You've been rabidly attacking the president for no rational reason all
along.
I'm not surprised to hear you say that you didn't believe the stuff you said
about him.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"hal lillywhite" wrote in message

news:3fd70fd0-40ae-43cb...@y2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...

>If the story is true, they told the publication's editor, "that if he

You're right to doubt your fellow Republicans, when they make up stories
about the president.
Similarly, they're right to doubt you when you do so.

That split has emasculated the Republican party - rendering it and it's
members impotent.

[Baxter]

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"Yer Pal Al" <caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Obama was not involved in this event.

This was a discussion between Woodward and his -friend- (source) at the WH,
Sperling, where Sperling got a bit heated and raised his voice to Woodward.
Sperling later apologized: ----------
Bob:
I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today. My bad. I do
understand your problems with a couple of our statements in the fall — but
feel on the other hand that you focus on a few specific trees that gives a
very wrong perception of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to
eye here.

But I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying that
Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not
believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that
claim.

http://tinyurl.com/bm27go9

----------

to which Woodward replied:

-----

Gene: You do not ever have to apologize to me. You get wound up because you
are making your points and you believe them. This is all part of a serious
discussion. I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the
importance. I also welcome your personal advice.

--------



Did you get that? "I also welcome your personal advice." Nothing there
about being threatened by Obama - or even some ambiguous threat from the WH.
Advice.from.a.friend.

[Long Dong]

Forced to post? New service? You are a moron and should be wearing a
helmet.

[Long Dong]

People are starting to realize that Obama is incompetent and has been in
over his head since he was a community organizer. He is now delusional
and becoming more irrational daily. Obama makes Kim Jung Un look sane.
BTW, What are you going to do if momma stops buying you gas and food,
and clothes? You are a good argument for planned parenthood.

[Long Dong]

On 02/28/2013 09:59 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "hal lillywhite" wrote in message
> news:3fd70fd0-40ae-43cb...@y2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...
>
>> If the story is true, they told the publication's editor, "that if he
>
> You're right to doubt your fellow Republicans, when they make up stories
> about the president.

Truth is stranger than fiction, Obama is grossly incompetent, has no
class, and should be shining shoes somewhere.

> Similarly, they're right to doubt you when you do so.
>
> That split has emasculated the Republican party - rendering it and it's
> members impotent.
>

Wow, limped dick Bucky, whose balls haven't dropped is calling someone
emasculated and impotent.
You support Obama because he is as gay as an Easter basket, just like
you. I hope Al slashes your bald tired again. Bwaahhhhhhhhh.

[Moses]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:18:51 -0700, Long Dong <cri...@dockside.com>
wrote:

> The Kenyan promised free stuff, and Romney promised jobs. The lazy and
> jealous said "Fuck jobs!" See,you parasites now outnumber the people
> supporting your families. Fortunately for you, your mother gives you

That is a ridiculous statement. There are 308 million people in the US
and only about 8 million are on temporary welfare, 8 Million are on
disability and 47 million are on food stamps, and 50 million are on Social
Security retirement. Now those totals all mix together. For example those
on welfare and disability may also receive food stamps along with very
poor seniors. So let us say 100 million are on some form of public
assistance that still leaves 208M+ that receive no government assistance.

Besides for the last twenty years their has been only a slight percentage
change in who is elected president, so public welfare has nothing to do
with it since the election is decided by independent voters.

Believe it or not the majority of people on social security will vote
conservative candidates.

[Moses]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:58:46 -0800 (PST), hal lillywhite
<hlil...@juno.com> wrote:

> And now there is a report of another news guy being threatened by the
> White House.

It's not a threat.

[hal lillywhite]

On Feb 28, 10:58 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> "hal lillywhite"  wrote in message
>
> news:f2e722cb-f621-4571...@vh9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I didn't believe that a couple of years ago but
>
> You've been rabidly attacking the president for no rational reason all
> along.

Yeah right, no rational reason.

His signature legislation passed because "we have to pass the bill to
find out what is in it," rushed through congress and now Obamacare is
raising cost of insurance on top of the taxes it imposes.

Total employment in the country is less than it has been for years,
gobs of people on unemployment and more just dropped out of the work
force.

Obama ignores events while our ambassador and others are killed, then
tries to blame it on a video when it was apparent that Islamic
terrorists, not that video were to blame.

He unilaterally changes the work requirement for welfare in the law.

He unilaterally says illegal aliens can stay and be treated as legals,
no need for the constitutionally required congress.

His administration sells guns to Mexican cartels.

etc. etc. etc.

> I'm not surprised to hear you say that you didn't believe the stuff you said
> about him.

When did I say that you liar.

[hal lillywhite]

On Feb 28, 10:59 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> "hal lillywhite"  wrote in message
>
> news:3fd70fd0-40ae-43cb...@y2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >If the story is true, they told the publication's editor, "that if he
>
> You're right to doubt your fellow Republicans, when they make up stories
> about the president.

And just when did Woodward and Davis (former Clinton advisor) become a
Republicans?

Your lying hasn't improved a bit, it is still laughably transparent.

[Capt. Justice]

White House Pledges More Aid to Syrian Rebels
.
Denies Reports of Armored Vehicles 'For Now' .
.
by Jason Ditz, February 27, 2013
.
Officials are confirming, on condition of anonymity, that the White
House has already pledged additional aid to the Syrian rebels, and that
this aid will primarily include food and medical supplies.
.
Secretary of State John Kerry has been hinting at plans to increase US
aid to Syrian rebel factions, but officials insist that reports from
last night that this would include armored personnel carriers are not
true 'for now.'
.
The specifics of aid packages are expected to be unveiled on Thursday
during the Rome conference with various Syrian rebel groups, part of the
'Friends of Syria' series of US-backed conferences aimed at getting
Western nations to endorse regime change.
.
The rebels have been pressing for more weaponry and both the US and
European Union seem keen to get more directly involved in the rebellion,
but it seems that there is still reluctance to put an official US rubber
stamp on armament, with them preferring to quietly funnel weapons from
Gulf nations instead.
.
http://news.antiwar.com/2013/02/27/white-house-pledges-more-aid-to-syrian-rebels/
Last 5 posts by Jason Ditz .
.
Army: Cost of Afghan Exit to Grow Sharply - February 27th, 2013
.
Ahmadinejad Aide's Candidacy a Challenge to Iran's Theocratic Status Quo
- February 27th, 2013
.
Iraq PM: Syria Civil War Could Spread Across Region - February 27th,
2013
.
Israel Preps Troops for 'Escalation' in West Bank Protests - February
27th, 2013
.
Netanyahu Spurns Reports of Iran Talk Progress, Demands Military Threats
- February 27th, 2013

[Moses]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:10:27 -0800 (PST), hal lillywhite
<hlil...@juno.com> wrote:

> His signature legislation passed because "we have to pass the bill to
> find out what is in it," rushed through congress and now Obamacare is
> raising cost of insurance on top of the taxes it imposes.

Don't worry by the end of this decade America will have a one payer health
care system. As a matter of fact your eligible for the one payer health
care system called Medicare.

[Bill Shatzer]

Well, at least until that conservatism threatens their social security
payments.

THEN, they seem all in favor of Big Government.

peace and justice,

[Bill Shatzer]

hal lillywhite wrote:

> On Feb 28, 10:58 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
>
>>"hal lillywhite" wrote in message
>>
>>news:f2e722cb-f621-4571...@vh9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>>I didn't believe that a couple of years ago but
>>
>>You've been rabidly attacking the president for no rational reason all
>>along.
>
>
> Yeah right, no rational reason.
>
> His signature legislation passed because "we have to pass the bill to
> find out what is in it," rushed through congress and now Obamacare is
> raising cost of insurance on top of the taxes it imposes.

"Rushed through"?

The initial bill was introduced in the House in July 2009.

After numerous hearings, amendments, "gut and stuff" and procedural
votes, the final ACA was passed by Congress and signed by the President
in Junne, 2010.

Eleven months hardly seems "rushed".

> Total employment in the country is less than it has been for years,
> gobs of people on unemployment and more just dropped out of the work
> force.

What say? Total employment in 2012 was higher than the total employment
for 2011 which was in turn higher than total employment in 2010.

2009 was the recent low point but even then total employment was higher
than in the 1980s and only slightly lower than the 2003 numbers.

> Obama ignores events while our ambassador and others are killed, then
> tries to blame it on a video when it was apparent that Islamic
> terrorists, not that video were to blame.

"Ignored"? What evidence have you of this?

> He unilaterally changes the work requirement for welfare in the law.

The law allows waivers and modifications if they meet legal standards.
There's no "unilateral" about it. The states propose and the executive
branch says yea or nay - all in accordance with the laws passed by congress.

> He unilaterally says illegal aliens can stay and be treated as legals,
> no need for the constitutionally required congress.

Were does the constitution say that congress is required?

> His administration sells guns to Mexican cartels.

Approved, no doubt, at the presidential level?

At least he's not selling anti-tank missiles to the Ayatollohs - as a
certain admininistration deified by the conservative right did. A
transaction which was, in fact, approved at the presidential level.

/peace and justice/

[Sancho Panza]

On 2/28/2013 3:58 PM, Bill Shatzer wrote:
> hal lillywhite wrote:
>
>> On Feb 28, 10:58 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "hal lillywhite" wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:f2e722cb-f621-4571...@vh9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I didn't believe that a couple of years ago but
>>>
>>> You've been rabidly attacking the president for no rational reason all
>>> along.
>>
>>
>> Yeah right, no rational reason.
>>
>> His signature legislation passed because "we have to pass the bill to
>> find out what is in it," rushed through congress and now Obamacare is
>> raising cost of insurance on top of the taxes it imposes.
>
> "Rushed through"?
>
> The initial bill was introduced in the House in July 2009.
>
> After numerous hearings, amendments, "gut and stuff" and procedural
> votes, the final ACA was passed by Congress and signed by the President
> in Junne, 2010.
>
> Eleven months hardly seems "rushed".

It is when a legislator doesn't have the foggiest notion of what he or
she is voting on.

[Yer Pal Al]

On Feb 28, 8:53 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> "Long Dong"  wrote in messagenews:kgn3tc$55t$1...@wieslauf.sub.de...

>
> >The Kenyan promised free stuff, and Romney promised jobs. The lazy and
>
> I see you've been forced to post you racist Republican from a new service.

Do you have medication to help you get by after your mind-frying
menengitis? I'm not really asking... I'm just reminding you.

[Yer Pal Al]

On Feb 28, 9:06 am, "Baxter" <baxter.spambl...@baxcode.com> wrote:
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> On Feb 28, 8:07 am, "Baxter" <baxter.spambl...@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> > If the story is true, they told the publication's editor, "that if he
> >> > continued to run my columns, he would lose, or his reporters would
> >> > lose their White House credentials."
>
> >> It's about time they are held accountable for their slanders/libels.
>
> >Woodward is a journalist and not a lapdog. Barry Hussein sees him as a
> >threat.
>
> Obama was not involved in this event.

The mania for not holding the president responsible for anything is
fascinating to watch.

"Fuck Truman. The buck stops anywhere else." - Barry Hussein

At the least Sperling should be fired, but he won't because that is
just another symptom of lieberal pathology.

[Yer Pal Al]

On Feb 28, 9:16 am, Long Dong <crit...@dockside.com> wrote:
> On 02/28/2013 09:53 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:> "Long Dong" wrote in messagenews:kgn3tc$55t$1...@wieslauf.sub.de...

>
> >> The Kenyan promised free stuff, and Romney promised jobs. The lazy and
>
> > I see you've been forced to post you racist Republican from a new service.
>
> Forced to post? New service? You are a moron and should be wearing a
> helmet.

His mom is starting to forget to remind him to take his meds that
allows him to almost function normally after his mind-frying
menengitis.

[Baxter]

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"Sancho Panza" <otter...@xhotmail.com> wrote in message
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Then you need to fire that legislator. I would note that it was mostly the
Tea Party "legislators" that couldn't be bothered to read and understand any
of it.

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"Yer Pal Al" <caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:0ef38b81-0d45-45b4...@la7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

>At the least Sperling should be fired, but he won't because that is
>just another symptom of lieberal pathology.

Why should Sperling be fired? He made no threat, nor did Woodward, per his
email, take anything he said as a threat.

[Yer Pal Al]

On Feb 28, 12:58 pm, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu> wrote:

> hal lillywhite wrote:
> > tries to blame it on a video when it was apparent that Islamic
> > terrorists, not that video were to blame.
>
> "Ignored"? What evidence have you of this?

Two weeks later the administration was still blaming a video.

> > His administration sells guns to Mexican cartels.
>
> Approved, no doubt, at the presidential level?

It has his approval in that he did not fire Holder.

[Yer Pal Al]

On Feb 28, 12:58 pm, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu> wrote:

> hal lillywhite wrote:
> > On Feb 28, 10:58 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
>
> >>"hal lillywhite"  wrote in message
>
> >>news:f2e722cb-f621-4571...@vh9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>I didn't believe that a couple of years ago but
>
> >>You've been rabidly attacking the president for no rational reason all
> >>along.
>
> > Yeah right, no rational reason.
>
> > His signature legislation passed because "we have to pass the bill to
> > find out what is in it," rushed through congress and now Obamacare is
> > raising cost of insurance on top of the taxes it imposes.
>
> "Rushed through"?
>
> The initial bill was introduced in the House in July 2009.

The Affordable Health Care for America Act, H.R. 3962, was introduced
in the House of Representatives on October 29, 2009.

Major revisions were added on the November 6th and the bill passed
November 7th. Of course it was rushed because if they waited any
longer it would not have passed in a Republican House.

[Yer Pal Al]

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>
> news:512fc6b4$0$19543$607e...@cv.net...> On 2/28/2013 3:58 PM, Bill Shatzer wrote:
>
> >> Eleven months hardly seems "rushed".
>
> > It is when a legislator doesn't have the foggiest notion of what he or she
> > is voting on.
>
> Then you need to fire that legislator.  I would note that it was mostly the
> Tea Party "legislators" that couldn't be bothered to read and understand any
> of it.

If they had only read it they would have voted for it?

No one had time to read the final bill.

Obama said he'd give us 5 days to comment on the bill. He lied:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/234/allow-five-days-of-public-comment-before-signing-b/

[Yer Pal Al]

On Feb 28, 11:12 am, Moses <Moses.of.the.bibl...@gmail.com-DESPAM>
wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:10:27 -0800 (PST), hal lillywhite
>

> <hlill...@juno.com> wrote:
> > His signature legislation passed because "we have to pass the bill to
> > find out what is in it," rushed through congress and now Obamacare is
> > raising cost of insurance on top of the taxes it imposes.
>
> Don't worry by the end of this decade America will have a one payer health
> care system. As a matter of fact your eligible for the one payer health
> care system called Medicare.

I'm kind of glad you don't know what single payer is.

[hal lillywhite]

On 28 feb, 14:58, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu> wrote:

> > His signature legislation passed because "we have to pass the bill to
> > find out what is in it," rushed through congress and now Obamacare is
> > raising cost of insurance on top of the taxes it imposes.
>
> "Rushed through"?
>
> The initial bill was introduced in the House in July 2009.
>
> After numerous hearings, amendments, "gut and stuff" and procedural
> votes, the final ACA was passed by Congress and signed by the President
> in Junne, 2010.

Your own words betray you. The numerous amendments, gut and stuff
etc. changed things considerably. The final law was not the 2009
proposal and was indeed rushed. Do you know of any congresscritter
that actually read the thing befor voting on it? Now we are stuck
with it and as Pelosi said, they had to pass it to know what was in
it. It is having consequences that Obama promised it would not have.
People cannot keep their old policies, costs have increased as have
taxes.

> Eleven months hardly seems "rushed".
>
> > Total employment in the country is less than it has been for years,
> > gobs of people on unemployment and more just dropped out of the work
> > force.
>
> What say? Total employment in 2012 was higher than the total employment
> for 2011 which was in turn higher than total employment in 2010.
>
> 2009 was the recent low point but even then total employment was higher
> than in the 1980s and only slightly lower than the 2003 numbers.

Yet total employment is still not back to the 2008 level,
http://www.deptofnumbers.com/employment/us/

Look at the total US employment graph about a third of the way down.

> > Obama ignores events while our ambassador and others are killed, then
> > tries to blame it on a video when it was apparent that Islamic
> > terrorists, not that video were to blame.
>
> "Ignored"? What evidence have you of this?

Lots of news reports that he took the phone call, then went to dinner
with his family and had no more input till it was over.

> > He unilaterally changes the work requirement for welfare in the law.
>
> The law allows waivers and modifications if they meet legal standards.
> There's no "unilateral" about it. The states propose and the executive
> branch says yea or nay - all in accordance with the laws passed by congress.

Unilateral in that he did not consult congress. The poverty rate
dropped when that law forced people to work, then the donkeys started
their assault on it.

> > He unilaterally says illegal aliens can stay and be treated as legals,
> > no need for the constitutionally required congress.
>
> Were does the constitution say that congress is required?

Congress makes the laws, duh! He unilaterally stopped enforcing that
law.

> > His administration sells guns to Mexican cartels.
>
> Approved, no doubt, at the presidential level?

At least approved by default since he retains Holder and others who
should have stopped the thing.

> At least he's not selling anti-tank missiles to the Ayatollohs - as a
> certain admininistration deified by the conservative right did. A
> transaction which was, in fact, approved  at the presidential level.

Diversionary tactic noted and rejected.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Long Dong" wrote in message news:kgo3qk$lbv$1...@wieslauf.sub.de...

> People are starting to realize that Obama is incompetent and has been in

Blah, blah, blah.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Bill Shatzer" wrote in message news:kgoecv$2bs$2...@dont-email.me...

>Well, at least until that conservatism threatens their social security
>payments.
>THEN, they seem all in favor of Big Government.

It's my experience that many Tea Party Republicans don't actually qualify
for social security.
Some simply failed to contribute.
Others tried to cheat the system and lost their benefits.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"hal lillywhite" wrote in message

news:2c516c5a-d7a9-4146...@or10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

>Yet total employment is still not back to the 2008 level,

Everyone knows that's a failure of the Republican congress.
The Republicans say they have to block employment programs because they're
socialist and wasteful and violate their gun rights.

[Waldo]

Conservatives were not the people who stole the Social Security trust
funds. It was Lyndon Johnson. Because you are a failure in life you
depend on the Democrats to force Conservatives to support your family
and your Mexican illegal inlaws and grandchildren.

[Waldo]

Your experience is all rolled up in homosexual or other sexual deviance.
You sure don't mind stealing your mother's Social Security money, do
you? It was probably your sister who slashed your tires.

[Waldo]

Well, you don't realize it because you are just as gay as he is.

[Sancho Panza]

Stephanie Cutter sure set some example.And these are the people who
mocked and brought down Harriet Miers.

[Waldo]

Who says he is not? He assures the success of the Muslim Brotherhood in
taking over democracies in the Middle East. Do you know where that is
asshole?

[Capt. Justice]

Iraq: No Agreement with US over Sanctions against Iran
.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107148494
.
2013-02-28 - Economy .
.
TEHRAN (FNA)- The Iraqi foreign ministry in a statement underlined the
importance of bilateral relations with Iran for the country, and
announced that Baghdad will not join the US-sponsored sanctions against
Tehran.
.
Iraq opposed Washington's request to comply with the US-led sanctions
imposed against Iran over its nuclear energy program.
.
"Our relations with Iran are more important than all other issues or
benefits," the Iraqi Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Wednesday.
Referring to the meetings held between the Iraqi government and US
Undersecretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence David Cohen, the
statement said that the two sides had not reached any agreements on
enforcing sanctions against Iran.
.
The Iraqi Foreign Ministry added that Baghdad has requested an exemption
from the US-led sanctions imposed against Iran.
.
"Our economic relations with Iran will continue and are not in conflict
with international resolutions," an Iraqi official said.
.
Iran and Iraq have enjoyed growing ties ever since the overthrow of the
former Iraqi dictator, Saddam Hussein, in 2003.
Both sides are working on a series of plans to take wide strides in
expanding their ties, in economic fields in particular.
Iranian energy officials said in September that the country will start
supplying natural gas to neighboring Iraq by the summer of 2013.
.
Head of the National Iranian Gas Company Javad Oji said Iran has
completed more than 25 percent of a pipeline to Iraq that could carry up
to 25 million cubic meters per day of its natural gas to Iraq.

[Bill Shatzer]

"Operation "Fast and Furious," the controversial undercover operation
that allowed U.S. guns to be walked into Mexico, was a "risky strategy"
that did not "adequately take into account the significant danger to
public safety that it created."

"That was the conclusion today from the Office of the Inspector General,
Department of Justice, after an investigation that spanned more than a
year and a half.

"The OIG investigation found that Attorney General Eric Holder was not
aware of the strategy and tactics used in "Fast and Furious," and turned
up no evidence that Holder tried to cover up the operation, or mislead
Congress about it."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/fast-furious-probe-clears-holder-faults-atf-justice/story?id=17274903

The managers, who WERE involved in Fast and Furious, were fired or
resigned. Others were demoted or otherwise disciplined.

/peace and justice/

[Bill Shatzer]

hal lillywhite wrote:

> On 28 feb, 14:58, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu> wrote:

-snip-

>>
>>>Total employment in the country is less than it has been for years,
>>>gobs of people on unemployment and more just dropped out of the work
>>>force.

>>What say? Total employment in 2012 was higher than the total employment
>>for 2011 which was in turn higher than total employment in 2010.

>>2009 was the recent low point but even then total employment was higher
>>than in the 1980s and only slightly lower than the 2003 numbers.

> Yet total employment is still not back to the 2008 level,
> http://www.deptofnumbers.com/employment/us/

Still, total employment is NOT "less than it has been for years". It is,
in fact considerably higher than it has been for years.

> Look at the total US employment graph about a third of the way down.

The point being, I suppose, that your original claim about total
employment being "less than it has been for years" was simply so much
rightist hyperbole.

>>>Obama ignores events while our ambassador and others are killed, then
>>>tries to blame it on a video when it was apparent that Islamic
>>>terrorists, not that video were to blame.

>>"Ignored"? What evidence have you of this?

> Lots of news reports that he took the phone call, then went to dinner
> with his family and had no more input till it was over.

Nonsense. Unverified and unverifiable rightist rumors are not evidence.

>>>He unilaterally changes the work requirement for welfare in the law.

>>The law allows waivers and modifications if they meet legal standards.
>>There's no "unilateral" about it. The states propose and the executive
>>branch says yea or nay - all in accordance with the laws passed by congress.

> Unilateral in that he did not consult congress.

The law doesn't require consulting with congress. Indeed, there's no
provision in the law for consulting with congress.

> The poverty rate
> dropped when that law forced people to work, then the donkeys started
> their assault on it.

Check out what the waivers did. Specifically the provisions which
require the states to demostrate that the waivers result in FEWER people
on assistance.

>>>He unilaterally says illegal aliens can stay and be treated as legals,
>>>no need for the constitutionally required congress.

>>Were does the constitution say that congress is required?

> Congress makes the laws, duh! He unilaterally stopped enforcing that
> law.

All sorts of laws go unenforced. Ever hear of prosecutorial discreation?

>>>His administration sells guns to Mexican cartels.

>>Approved, no doubt, at the presidential level?

> At least approved by default since he retains Holder and others who
> should have stopped the thing.

See my previous post about the results of the IG investigation.

Those managers who "should have stopped the thing" were fired or
resigned while others involved were demoted or otherwise disciplined.

>>At least he's not selling anti-tank missiles to the Ayatollohs - as a
>>certain admininistration deified by the conservative right did. A
>>transaction which was, in fact, approved at the presidential level.

> Diversionary tactic noted and rejected.

Just noting that your resort to high dudgeon seems highly selective.

[1916 murdered in Obama's organized communities]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:45:12 -0800, Moses
<Moses.of.t...@gmail.com-DESPAM> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:18:51 -0700, Long Dong <cri...@dockside.com>
>wrote:
>
>> The Kenyan promised free stuff, and Romney promised jobs. The lazy and
>> jealous said "Fuck jobs!" See,you parasites now outnumber the people
>> supporting your families. Fortunately for you, your mother gives you
>
> That is a ridiculous statement. There are 308 million people in the US

And according to Maxine Waters (D - Pimple on Obama's Ass) "170
million" jobs will be lost when Obama's sequester kicks in today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfB5X2RzuCI

And you rubes just keep re-electing these tools...

[1916 murdered in Obama's organized communities]

Your "experience" appears to be as far-removed from reality as your
Dear Leader.

[Waldo]

On 2/28/2013 11:08 PM, Bill Shatzer wrote:
> Yer Pal Al wrote:
>> On Feb 28, 12:58 pm, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> hal lillywhite wrote:
>>>
>>>> tries to blame it on a video when it was apparent that Islamic
>>>> terrorists, not that video were to blame.
>>>
>>> "Ignored"? What evidence have you of this?
>>
>>
>> Two weeks later the administration was still blaming a video.
>>
>>
>>>> His administration sells guns to Mexican cartels.
>>>
>>> Approved, no doubt, at the presidential level?
>
>> It has his approval in that he did not fire Holder.
>
> "Operation "Fast and Furious," the controversial undercover operation
> that allowed U.S. guns to be walked into Mexico, was a "risky strategy"
> that did not "adequately take into account the significant danger to
> public safety that it created."

He also had to claim Executive Privilege to keep his himself from
getting impeached.

>
> "That was the conclusion today from the Office of the Inspector General,
> Department of Justice, after an investigation that spanned more than a
> year and a half.

Sure, they investigated themselves. Nice work if you can get it.

>
> "The OIG investigation found that Attorney General Eric Holder was not
> aware of the strategy and tactics used in "Fast and Furious," and turned
> up no evidence that Holder tried to cover up the operation, or mislead
> Congress about it."

Holder should be doing time in Federal Prison for his treason.

>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/fast-furious-probe-clears-holder-faults-atf-justice/story?id=17274903
>
>
> The managers, who WERE involved in Fast and Furious, were fired or
> resigned. Others were demoted or otherwise disciplined.

It's part of Obama's blame a White guy procedure. It is common tactic
among the incompetents who have risen to a level far beyond their
capabilities
>
> /peace and justice through superior firepower.

Schitzer is a lying sack of runny dog shit with blood in it

[1916 murdered in Obama's organized communities]

The truth burns you so!

[Waldo]

Shitzy,you a fucking loser.

[1916 murdered in Obama's organized communities]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:58:46 -0800 (PST), hal lillywhite
<hlil...@juno.com> wrote:

>On 27 feb, 21:50, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Obama retaliates, you will "regret doing this".
>>
>> http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-woodward-obama-sequester-white-hou...
>
>And now there is a report of another news guy being threatened by the
>White House.
>
>http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?pt=WMAL+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Woodward%27s+Not+Alone+-+Fmr.+Clinton+Aide+Davis+Says+He+Received+White+House+Threat&id=8924&is_corp=0

>
>If the story is true, they told the publication's editor, "that if he
>continued to run my columns, he would lose, or his reporters would
>lose their White House credentials."

Obama's got a perp-walk to hell in his future...

[1916 murdered in Obama's organized communities]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:07:09 -0800, "Baxter"
<baxter.s...@baxcode.com> wrote:

>-
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>Free Software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com

>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>"hal lillywhite" <hlil...@juno.com> wrote in message
>news:3fd70fd0-40ae-43cb...@y2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...

>> On 27 feb, 21:50, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Obama retaliates, you will "regret doing this".
>>>
>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-woodward-obama-sequester-white-hou...
>>
>> And now there is a report of another news guy being threatened by the
>> White House.
>>
>> http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?pt=WMAL+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Woodward

>>27s+Not+Alone+-+Fmr.+Clinton+Aide+Davis+Says+He+Received

>>+White+House+Threat&id=8924&is_corp=0
>>
>> If the story is true, they told the publication's editor, "that if he
>> continued to run my columns, he would lose, or his reporters would
>> lose their White House credentials."
>

>It's about time they are held accountable for their slanders/libels.

Ooo! Obama will let you blow him ~twice~ for that li'l glop of
loyalty!

[1916 murdered in Obama's organized communities]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:51:43 -0800 (PST), Yer Pal Al
<caddys...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 28, 8:07�am, "Baxter" <baxter.spambl...@baxcode.com> wrote:

>> -
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�---------

>> Free Software - Baxter Codeworks �www.baxcode.com

>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�---------
>>
>> "hal lillywhite" <hlill...@juno.com> wrote in message

>>
>> news:3fd70fd0-40ae-43cb...@y2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On 27 feb, 21:50, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Obama retaliates, you will "regret doing this".
>>
>> >>http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-woodward-obama-sequester-white-hou...
>>
>> > And now there is a report of another news guy being threatened by the
>> > White House.
>>
>> >http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?pt=WMAL+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Woodward
>> >27s+Not+Alone+-+Fmr.+Clinton+Aide+Davis+Says+He+Received
>> >+White+House+Threat&id=8924&is_corp=0
>>
>> > If the story is true, they told the publication's editor, "that if he
>> > continued to run my columns, he would lose, or his reporters would
>> > lose their White House credentials."
>>
>> It's about time they are held accountable for their slanders/libels.
>

>Woodward is a journalist and not a lapdog. Barry Hussein sees him as a
>threat.

Obama thinks he is Nixon.

Just without the brains...

[Yer Pal Al]

On Feb 28, 5:56 pm, Waldo <s...@staight.mx> wrote:
> On 2/28/2013 5:24 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:> "Bill Shatzer"  wrote in messagenews:kgoecv$2bs$2...@dont-email.me...

>
> >> Well, at least until that conservatism threatens their social security
> >> payments.
> >> THEN, they seem all in favor of Big Government.
>
> > It's my experience that many Tea Party Republicans don't actually
> > qualify for social security.
> > Some simply failed to contribute.
> > Others tried to cheat the system and lost their benefits.
>
> Your experience is all rolled up in homosexual

There is nothing wrong with being homosexual. Sanders would do well to
find a good man to take care of him.

> or other sexual deviance.

I don't believe that. His inflatable girlfriend my emasculate him with
laughter but that isn't deviance.

> You sure don't mind stealing your mother's Social Security money, do
> you?

He isn't stealing it. He's sharing in her $250/week bounty. He earns
his room and board, having his laundry done and having his bed made by
picking up the groceries and cutting her toe nails.

> It was probably your sister who slashed your tires.

Those were his mother's tires on the car she lets him drive. His
sister is envious of the relationship Sanders has with his dear, sweet
mother but there is no proof that she did that.

[Yer Pal Al]

On Feb 28, 10:08 pm, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu> wrote:
> Yer Pal Al wrote:
> > On Feb 28, 12:58 pm, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu> wrote:
>
> >>hal lillywhite wrote:
>
> >>>tries to blame it on a video when it was apparent that Islamic
> >>>terrorists, not that video were to blame.
>
> >>"Ignored"? What evidence have you of this?
>
> > Two weeks later the administration was still blaming a video.
>
> >>>His administration sells guns to Mexican cartels.
>
> >>Approved, no doubt, at the presidential level?
> > It has his approval in that he did not fire Holder.
>
> "Operation "Fast and Furious," the controversial undercover operation
> that allowed U.S. guns to be walked into Mexico, was a "risky strategy"
> that did not "adequately take into account the significant danger to
> public safety that it created."
>
> "That was the conclusion today from the Office of the Inspector General,
> Department of Justice, after an investigation that spanned more than a
> year and a half.
>
> "The OIG investigation found that Attorney General Eric Holder was not
> aware of the strategy and tactics used in "Fast and Furious," and turned
> up no evidence that Holder tried to cover up the operation, or mislead
> Congress about it."

You seem to think that I'm saying that Holder should be fired because
of his bad idea. No, it's because he's incompetent. Then you defend
him by telling me he was ignorant of what his department was doing.

Nice one Brainiac.

[Yer Pal Al]

On Feb 28, 10:50 pm, 1916 murdered in Obama's organized communities

<Tawana.Braw...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:45:12 -0800, Moses
>

> <Moses.of.the.bibl...@gmail.com-DESPAM> wrote:
> >On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:18:51 -0700, Long Dong <crit...@dockside.com>

> >wrote:
>
> >> The Kenyan promised free stuff, and Romney promised jobs. The lazy and
> >> jealous said "Fuck jobs!" See,you parasites now outnumber the people
> >> supporting your families. Fortunately for you, your mother gives you
>
> > That is a ridiculous statement. There are 308 million people in the US
>
> And according to Maxine Waters (D - Pimple on Obama's Ass) "170
> million" jobs will be lost when Obama's sequester kicks in today.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfB5X2RzuCI
>
> And you rubes just keep re-electing these tools...

Obama is going to fart and that will "save or create" 169.99 million
jobs.

[Sancho Panza]

On 3/1/2013 1:40 AM, Bill Shatzer wrote:
> hal lillywhite wrote:

>>>> Obama ignores events while our ambassador and others are killed, then
>>>> tries to blame it on a video when it was apparent that Islamic
>>>> terrorists, not that video were to blame.
>
>>> "Ignored"? What evidence have you of this?

Prima facie. Panetta, Clinton, Dempsey all noted the lack of response to
their calls. Not even Obama claims he was on duty.

>
>> Lots of news reports that he took the phone call, then went to dinner
>> with his family and had no more input till it was over.
>
> Nonsense. Unverified and unverifiable rightist rumors are not evidence.

Panetta and Dempsey testified to that under oath. Stop the juvenile
handwaving and rewriting of history. It starts to sound like some of the
really incompetent ideologues here.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Bill Shatzer" wrote in message news:kgogaj$i5e$1...@dont-email.me...

>hal lillywhite wrote:

>"Rushed through"?
>The initial bill was introduced in the House in July 2009.

Yeah, but the speaking the truth would be disloyal to the Republican party.

[hal lillywhite]

On 1 mar, 00:40, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu> wrote:

> >>What say? Total employment in 2012 was higher than the total employment
> >>for 2011 which was in turn higher than total employment in 2010.
> >>2009 was the recent low point but even then total employment was higher
> >>than in the 1980s and only slightly lower than the 2003 numbers.
> > Yet total employment is still not back to the 2008 level,
> >http://www.deptofnumbers.com/employment/us/
>
> Still, total employment is NOT "less than it has been for years". It is,
> in fact considerably higher than it has been for years.

Only if those are the Obama years. Total employment during Obama's
term has never reached the total prior to when he took office. And
that is including all the young people who have entered the workforce
(or tried to) during those years.

> > Look at the total US employment graph about a third of the way down.
>
> The point being, I suppose, that your original claim about total
> employment being "less than it has been for years" was simply so much
> rightist hyperbole.

Poor wording perhaps but the fact remains that total employment during
Obama's term is lower than before he took office, while we needed more
employment for those entering the workforce.

> >>>Obama ignores events while our ambassador and others are killed, then
> >>>tries to blame it on a video when it was apparent that Islamic
> >>>terrorists, not that video were to blame.
> >>"Ignored"? What evidence have you of this?
> > Lots of news reports that he took the phone call, then went to dinner
> > with his family and had no more input  till it was over.
>
> Nonsense. Unverified and unverifiable rightist rumors are not evidence.

Others have already given evidence that supports my statement so I
won't bother. Fact is Obama was AWOL during that event.

> >>>He unilaterally changes the work requirement for welfare in the law.
> >>The law allows waivers and modifications if they meet legal standards.
> >>There's no "unilateral" about it. The states propose and the executive
> >>branch says yea or nay - all in accordance with the laws passed by congress.
> > Unilateral in that he did not consult congress.
>
> The law doesn't require consulting with congress. Indeed, there's no
> provision in the law for consulting with congress.

Yet he went against the clear intent of the law.

> > The poverty rate
> > dropped when that law forced people to work, then the donkeys started
> > their assault on it.
>
> Check out what the waivers did. Specifically the provisions which
> require the states to demostrate that the waivers result in FEWER people
> on assistance.

And when are they going to do that? And how will it be verified? The
recipient is in school studying art history or some such? Is there
any requirement that the classes taken be likely to lead to a paying
job?

> >>>He unilaterally says illegal aliens can stay and be treated as legals,
> >>>no need for the constitutionally required congress.
> >>Were does the constitution say that congress is required?
> > Congress makes the laws, duh!  He unilaterally stopped enforcing that
> > law.
>
> All sorts of laws go unenforced. Ever hear of prosecutorial discreation?

He ain't a prosecutor, he is the president, sworn to defend the law
and constitution.

> >>>His administration sells guns to Mexican cartels.
> >>Approved, no doubt, at the presidential level?
> > At least approved by default since he retains Holder and others who
> > should have stopped the thing.
>
> See my previous post about the results of the IG investigation.

Yeah, Holder's employees investigated their boss and found him not
guilty. What a surprise. Of course they did say that he didn't know
about it which seems to me to be derilection of duty. This was not
some small program.

And there is also the fact that this happened just after
administration officials and others were shown to be wrong in their
claim that a high percentage of Mexican cartel weapons came from the
US. They were trying to use that false information to tighten gun
controls. It does seem a bit suspicious that just after that they
handed over a bunch of US weapons to those cartels. We should wonder
if they were trying to make their falsehood true.

> Those managers who "should have stopped the thing" were fired or
> resigned while others involved were demoted or otherwise disciplined.

Darn few.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Waldo" wrote in message news:kgp22s$6tb$6...@wieslauf.sub.de...

[Sanders Kaufman]

"hal lillywhite" wrote in message

news:eb3fdd05-14d4-46fe...@xb8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

>Others have already given evidence that supports my statement so I
>won't bother. Fact is Obama was AWOL during that event.

You're right to be ashamed to post your reasons.

[Moses]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:40:06 -0800, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu>
wrote:

> > Yet total employment is still not back to the 2008 level,
> > http://www.deptofnumbers.com/employment/us/
>
> Still, total employment is NOT "less than it has been for years". It is,
> in fact considerably higher than it has been for years.

The current unemployment rate is the new normal. For years it hovered
around 5%, but 9-10% is the new normal. If you don't have a good trade
skill or a marketable college degree you are the new les miserables of
America.

[Moses]

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:09:08 -0500, Sancho Panza <otter...@xhotmail.com>

wrote:

> >>>> Obama ignores events while our ambassador and others are killed, then
> >>>> tries to blame it on a video when it was apparent that Islamic
> >>>> terrorists, not that video were to blame.
> >
> >>> "Ignored"? What evidence have you of this?
>
> Prima facie. Panetta, Clinton, Dempsey all noted the lack of response to
> their calls. Not even Obama claims he was on duty.

Oh, Obama can't micro-manage the State Department. People die in war.

[Yer Pal Al]

On Mar 1, 7:31 am, Moses <Moses.of.the.bibl...@gmail.com-DESPAM>
wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:09:08 -0500, Sancho Panza <otterpo...@xhotmail.com>

No one is saying Barry Hussein ignored the situation. They were on top
of it right away with a bogus story about a video that went on for
weeks afterward.

[hal lillywhite]

On 1 mar, 00:40, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu> wrote:

>http://www.deptofnumbers.com/employment/us/
>
> Still, total employment is NOT "less than it has been for years". It is,
> in fact considerably higher than it has been for years.

Just came across the following about how the numbers don't tell the
whole story, things are worse than the numbers show.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2013/02/28/mort-zuckerman-the-jobs-picture-is-far-worse-than-it-looks

And as Zuckerman points out, "Paradoxically, hundreds of thousands of
employers say they can't find workers with the skills they need in
science, technology, engineering, and mathematics."

There are of course many reasons for the lack of such skills but I
rather suspect it is partly related to the problems in our education
system. Michelle Malkin has several articles about that at
http://michellemalkin.com/

[Sanders Kaufman]

"hal lillywhite" wrote in message

news:dd24f2bf-8f53-4005...@h1g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...

>And as Zuckerman points out, "Paradoxically, hundreds of thousands of
>employers say they can't find workers with the skills they need in
>science, technology, engineering, and mathematics."

It's true, and thanks to the Republicans' anti-education initiatives, it's
getting worse.
Texas even created a special diploma so that people who fail High School,
can still call themselves "graduates".
It won't get them into college - but it's enough to trick some employers.

[1916 murdered in Obama's organized communities]

...except you feel sorry for the dog...

[1916 murdered in Obama's organized communities]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:40:06 -0800, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu>
wrote:

>hal lillywhite wrote:
>
>> On 28 feb, 14:58, Bill Shatzer <ww...@NOcornell.edu> wrote:
>
>-snip-
>
>>>
>>>>Total employment in the country is less than it has been for years,
>>>>gobs of people on unemployment and more just dropped out of the work
>>>>force.
>
>>>What say? Total employment in 2012 was higher than the total employment
>>>for 2011 which was in turn higher than total employment in 2010.
>
>>>2009 was the recent low point but even then total employment was higher
>>>than in the 1980s and only slightly lower than the 2003 numbers.
>
>> Yet total employment is still not back to the 2008 level,
>> http://www.deptofnumbers.com/employment/us/
>
>Still, total employment is NOT "less than it has been for years". It is,
>in fact considerably higher than it has been for years.

That was before Obama's sequester lost us 170 million jobs today.

Maxine told us so.

[Waldo]

The asshole is so pissed he is probably planning another bogus massacre.

[Sancho Panza]

On 2/28/2013 5:15 PM, Baxter wrote:
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> "Sancho Panza" <otter...@xhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:512fc6b4$0$19543$607e...@cv.net...
>> On 2/28/2013 3:58 PM, Bill Shatzer wrote:
>>>
>>> Eleven months hardly seems "rushed".
>>
>> It is when a legislator doesn't have the foggiest notion of what he or she
>> is voting on.
>>
> Then you need to fire that legislator. I would note that it was mostly the
> Tea Party "legislators" that couldn't be bothered to read and understand any
> of it.
>
Got the list?

[Captain Armstrong]

On 02/28/2013 05:32 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "hal lillywhite" wrote in message

> news:2c516c5a-d7a9-4146...@or10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

>
>> Yet total employment is still not back to the 2008 level,
>

> Everyone knows that's a failure of the Republican congress.
> The Republicans say they have to block employment programs because
> they're socialist and wasteful and violate their gun rights.
>
If there was no Republican House (Dems have the Senate) Obama would
already have your lazy ass in a labor camp getting ready for the gas.

[Captain Armstrong]

Is that any different from your jr. college witchcraft and urban
landscaping classes? You dim witted self abuser.

[Captain Armstrong]

How astute of you.

[Captain Armstrong]

There is no room for truth in the Obama administration. Woodward tried
to hint at the truth and got threatened.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Long Dong" wrote in message news:kh0fvf$d32$1...@wieslauf.sub.de...

> Some people change services like

Constantly running from your own identity - what a pathetic way to live your
life.

[Captain Armstrong]

I'll bet you would to run from yours.

[Yer Pal Al]

On Mar 4, 6:03 pm, Captain Armstrong <musc...@macho.com> wrote:
> On 03/04/2013 02:27 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>

> > "Long Dong" wrote in messagenews:kh0fvf$d32$1...@wieslauf.sub.de...

>
> >> Some people change services like
>
> > Constantly running from your own identity - what a pathetic way to live
> > your life.
>
> I'll bet you would to run from yours.

He's 47 years old, an out of work substitute teacher's assistant, has
a brain fried by meningitis and has lived with his mother for as long
as I've known of him. He posts to Usenet oblivious to his social
awkwardness and shallow cognitive skills. I cannot imagine anything
that could breach his threshold of shame.

[Captain Armstrong]

On 03/04/2013 02:27 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:

I'll bet you would liketo run from yours.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Captain Armstrong" wrote in message news:kh3jqb$1b1$1...@wieslauf.sub.de...

> I'll bet you would to run from yours.

Once again, you've made a prediction about the past... and got it wrong.
What next will you predict - the end of the world in 2012?

[Captain Armstrong]

I predict that your HIV will turn into full blown AIDS.

[Capt. Justice]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/hamas-brands-obama-visit-a-trap/story-e6frf7k6-1226593645718

The Hamas PM (pic) says an upcoming Middle East visit by US President
Barack Obama is a "trap". Source: AAP
.
THE Hamas prime minister says an upcoming regional visit by US President
Barack Obama is a "trap" aimed at undermining Palestinian
reconciliation.
.
"We are convinced that Obama's visit will not produce the necessary
breakthrough for our people," Ismail Haniya said at a sermon during
weekly Muslim prayers in the Gaza Strip's Al-Omari mosque on Friday.
.
He urged rival Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who is due to meet
Obama at his West Bank headquarters, not to be deluded by the visit or
sacrifice efforts to seal Palestinian reconciliation.
.
Palestinian Authority president Abbas should "not fall into the trap of
Obama's visit to the region and shut the door to reconciliation," said
Haniya.
.
Obama's visit "will focus on regional developments and will only address
our cause in a way to undermine Palestinian national reconciliation
efforts and to relaunch the absurd so-called negotiations" with Israel,
he said.
.
Obama is due in Israel at the end of this month on a trip that will also
involve him travelling to see Abbas in the the West Bank and also
visiting Jordan on the first foreign policy mission of his second term.
On Thursday he met American Jewish community leaders at the White House
and said there would be no big Middle East peace initiative on the table
when he arrives in Israel for his first visit as US leader.
.
A US official said "the president noted that the trip is not dedicated
to resolving a specific policy issue, but is rather an opportunity to
consult with the Israeli government about a broad range of issues -
including Iran, Syria, the situation in the region, and the peace
process."
.
Palestinian-Israeli peace talks have been deadlocked for more than two
years.
Abbas wants to renew peace talks in tandem with a freeze on Jewish
settlement construction in the occupied West Bank and in east Jerusalem.
.
Hamas and the Fatah faction of Abbas signed in April 2011 a
reconciliation agreement, but nearly two years later divisions remains
over how to apply the deal.

[Capt. Justice]

US and Europe in 'Major Airlift of Arms to Syrian Rebels Through Zagreb'
.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article34222.htm .
.
The United States has coordinated a massive airlift of arms to Syrian
rebels from Croatia with the help of Britain and other European states,
despite the continuing European Union arms embargo, it was claimed
yesterday.
.
By Richard Spencer, Middle East Correspondent
.
March 09, 2013 "Information Clearing House" - "The Telegraph" --  
Decisions by William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, to provide non-lethal
assistance and training, announced in the past week, were preceded by
much greater though less direct Western involvement in the rebel cause,
according to a Croat newspaper.
It claimed 3,000 tons of weapons dating back to the former Yugoslavia
have been sent in 75 planeloads from Zagreb airport to the rebels,
largely via Jordan since November.
.
The story confirmed the origins of ex-Yugoslav weapons seen in growing
numbers in rebel hands in online videos, as described last month by The
Daily Telegraph and other newspapers, but suggests far bigger quantities
than previously suspected.
.
The shipments were allegedly paid for by Saudi Arabia at the bidding of
the United States, with assistance on supplying the weapons organised
through Turkey and Jordan, Syria's neighbours. But the report added that
as well as from Croatia, weapons came "from several other European
countries including Britain", without specifying if they were
British-supplied or British-procured arms.
.
British military advisers however are known to be operating in countries
bordering Syria alongside French and Americans, offering training to
rebel leaders and former Syrian army officers.
.
The Americans are also believed to be providing training on securing
chemical weapons sites inside Syria.
.
President Barack Obama has been lukewarm about arming Syrian rebels
though many of his aides have been privately been keener.
.
The story in the Jutarnji List newspaper gave the fullest details yet of
the arms shipments which have enabled rebel forces to begin advancing
across the north of Syria in recent weeks, after months of stalemate.
.
The weapons, including rocket launchers, recoil-less guns and the M79
anti-tank weapon, have been seen in rebel hands in numerous videos, and
were first spotted by an arms expert Eliot Higgins, who blogs under the
name Brown Moses. He traced them moving from Dera'a in the south, near
the Jordanian border, to Aleppo and Idlib provinces in the north.
.
Western officials told the New York Times that the weapons had been
bought from Croatia by Saudi Arabia, and that they had been funnelled to
rebel groups seen by the west as more secular and nationalist.
.
The British involvement fits with the government's policy of doing all
it can to help the rebels within the EU arms embargo, which was modified
but not dropped at the start of this month.
.
Croatia, a close western ally, does not join the EU until July 1 and has
yet to implement the relevant EU legislation, though it has denied the
newspaper's claims.
.
The claims were denied by the Foreign Office. "While the Foreign
Secretary has ruled out no options for the future, the UK has not
supplied weapons to the Syrian opposition," a spokesman said. "This
would be a clear breach of the current EU arms embargo."
.
According to the Croat newspaper, the first cargo planes involved with
the shipment were from Turkey, but most have been from Jordanian
International Air Cargo, whose Russian-made Ilyushin jets have been seen
regularly at Zaghreb airport in recent months.
The airlift of dated but effective
.
Yugoslav-made weapons meets key concerns of the West, and especially
Turkey and the United States, who want the rebels to be better armed to
drive out the Assad regime but fear ultra-modern weaponry getting into
the hands of jihadists and the PKK Kurdish terror group.
.
Nevertheless, Mr Higgins has recently posted videos showing some of the
Croat weapons in the hands of the jihadist group Ahrar al-Sham.
.
Although regarded as hostile to the West, it fights closely with other
Free Syrian Army units regarded as acceptable recipients of weapons.