New tab with new session
Umin
I'd like to know if will be possible in next release to open a new tab
with a new user session.
It could be much useful to open, for example, two differents email
account with the same ISP with the same browser.
Now, for example, I've two gmail account.
I can log in the first with Opera but the second I must login with IE.
thanks
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Umin
Arioch
сообщал:
> Now, for example, I've two gmail account.
> I can log in the first with Opera but the second I must login with IE.
Why at all you would login into gmail ???
Just use Opera Mail like you do for this newsgroup.
lies lies lies
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:36:24 -0500, Umin <ataru...@yahoo.it> wrote:
> Now, for example, I've two gmail account.
> I can log in the first with Opera but the second I must login with IE.
How would this feature work? You'd specify that for *.gmail.com, you'd
like the cookies NOT to be shared in different windows ?
I can't think of another website where that might be useful...Or another
browser that would let you do that.
Just use Opera Mail like Arioch suggests :)
Umin
> Why at all you would login into gmail ???
> Just use Opera Mail like you do for this newsgroup.
I don't use Opera Mail for this newsgroup (I'm using mesnews :) and I
use The Bat! as default email client but, sometimes, when I'm not at
home, I use Opera to check Gmail account. I've 2 Gmail account so...
There's another reason, not for Gmail, hotmail and so on. I'd like,
sometimes, to check a site from 2 differents account (for example a
Drupal website where I'm logged as Admin and where I'd like to login as
user). This is the same case...
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Umin
Umin
> How would this feature work? You'd specify that for *.gmail.com, you'd like
> the cookies NOT to be shared in different windows ?
something like this, for example... or... I don't know.
I don't remember exactly but I'm think I've read somewhere that IE8
-and maybe Chrome- could be something like this.
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Umin
Arioch
> I don't remember exactly but I'm think I've read somewhere that IE8
> -and maybe Chrome- could be something like this.
Is there a thing like Opera Portable, so you could run two independent
Opera's each from its own folder ?
Maybe some mess with SandBoxie ?
However, i have FF to open the same site as in Opera with another account
:-)
Remco Lanting
wrote:
> Is there a thing like Opera Portable, so you could run two independent
> Opera's each from its own folder ?
http://www.opera-usb.com/operausben.htm
http://www.kejut.com/operaportable
The second doesn't seem to be updated anymore.
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Naruki Bigglesworth
> яПН яПНяПНяПНяПНяПНяПН яПНяПН Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:36:24 +0300, Umin <ataru...@yahoo.it>
> яПНяПНяПНяПНяПНяПНяПН:
>
>> Now, for example, I've two gmail account.
>> I can log in the first with Opera but the second I must login with IE.
>
> Why at all you would login into gmail ???
> Just use Opera Mail like you do for this newsgroup.
Why? You haven't ever really used Google apps, have you?
From GMail, I can quickly open my personal calendar, my iGoogle page, my Reader page, my Google
Docs page, etc.
All of those are keyed to how I am logged in at the moment.
I only use Firefox for that, since Opera support for Google apps is a bit spotty (Google's
fault, I know), but also because the extension I use to monitor all my GMail accounts does not
work in Opera.
That is one very good reason why you'd log into GMail.
Another is if you don't particularly want to download all your GMail into the local PC. You
just want to browse it.
I'm sure there may be other reasons, but we already have enough to justify this request.
Naruki Bigglesworth
> I can't think of another website where that might be useful...Or another
> browser that would let you do that.
Thanks for telling us that your imagination is severely limited. That way we know to disregard
your opinion on this matter.
YinYanger
<remco....@no.spam.at.gmail.com.please> escreveu:
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:33:24 +0100, Arioch
> <the_A...@nm.falsedomain.ru> wrote:
>
>> Is there a thing like Opera Portable, so you could run two independent
>> Opera's each from its own folder ?
>
> http://www.opera-usb.com/operausben.htm
> http://www.kejut.com/operaportable
>
> The second doesn't seem to be updated anymore.
>
http://www.kejut.com/operaportable it's on v10.00. Not so bad.
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Usando o revolucion�rio cliente de e-mail do Opera:
http://www.opera.com/mail/
lies lies lies
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:47:30 +0300, Arioch wrote:
>
>> сообщал:
>>
>>> Now, for example, I've two gmail account.
>>> I can log in the first with Opera but the second I must login with IE.
>>
>> Just use Opera Mail like you do for this newsgroup.
>
> Why? You haven't ever really used Google apps, have you?
>
> From GMail, I can quickly open my personal calendar, my iGoogle page, my
> Reader page, my Google
> Docs page, etc.
>
> All of those are keyed to how I am logged in at the moment.
>
> I only use Firefox for that, since Opera support for Google apps is a
> bit spotty (Google's
> fault, I know), but also because the extension I use to monitor all my
> GMail accounts does not
> work in Opera.
>
> That is one very good reason why you'd log into GMail.
>
> Another is if you don't particularly want to download all your GMail
> into the local PC. You
> just want to browse it.
>
> I'm sure there may be other reasons, but we already have enough to
> justify this request.
I use Gmail from Opera all of the time and it works great. Actually, all
of the reasons you just gave were for supporting Google apps in Opera, not
for being able to open two sessions of the same website. Any comments on
that ?
Ouch. The truth hurts so much. Wait, no, I think I'm sitting on a pin
again.
Ok, other websites where this might be useful...ANYTHING WHICH USES
COOKIES. Ok, but in all seriousness, it would probably be useful for
booking flights, banking, ecommerce sites...It's a feature that would
definitely provide value, but I think the use-cases are pretty specific.
If it were something that were easy to implement from a user-interface
perspective, I'd be all for it, but it doesn't look like anybody can think
of a good way to make this work.
So do you actually have something constructive to say? Your inflammatory
comments are not clever or funny, nor do they contribute very much to the
discussion.
Naruki Bigglesworth
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:47:30 +0300, Arioch wrote:
>>
>>> яПН яПНяПНяПНяПНяПНяПН яПНяПН Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:36:24 +0300, Umin <ataru...@yahoo.it>
>>> яПНяПНяПНяПНяПНяПНяПН:
Here's a little tip for you: don't copy & paste a response from a completely different thread
unless it's pertinent to this one. (Clue for the clueless: it isn't.)
You have something to say about that thread, say it there.
Oh, and try saying something less stupid over there, too. Thanks for playing, don't come back
too soon.
lies lies lies
<Nar...@nothankyou.com> wrote:
>
> Here's a little tip for you: don't copy & paste a response from a
> completely different thread
> unless it's pertinent to this one. (Clue for the clueless: it isn't.)
>
> You have something to say about that thread, say it there.
>
> Oh, and try saying something less stupid over there, too. Thanks for
> playing, don't come back
> too soon.
Trolling attempt ignored. You need to upgrade your bait. Refuse to argue
with someone who doesn't have a clear understanding of what a thread is.
Naruki Bigglesworth
No, I didn't ignore you. I just told you that your trolling is a waste of mine and everyone
else's time.
Take it elsewhere, or better yet, stop doing it, troll.
lies lies lies
<Nar...@nothankyou.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:42:21 -0500, lies lies lies wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:11:45 -0500, Naruki Bigglesworth
>> <Nar...@nothankyou.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a little tip for you: don't copy & paste a response from a
>>> completely different thread
>>> unless it's pertinent to this one. (Clue for the clueless: it isn't.)
>>>
>>> You have something to say about that thread, say it there.
>>>
>>> Oh, and try saying something less stupid over there, too. Thanks for
>>> playing, don't come back
>>> too soon.
>>
>> Trolling attempt ignored. You need to upgrade your bait. Refuse to argue
>> with someone who doesn't have a clear understanding of what a thread is.
>
> No, I didn't ignore you. I just told you that your trolling is a waste
> of mine and everyone
> else's time.
>
> Take it elsewhere, or better yet, stop doing it, troll.
Sigh. I am ignoring *your* trolling attempts. Let's move on.
Naruki Bigglesworth
Yeah, I got that you were calling me the troll, but that's because you're a moron. There was no
need for you to point it out again, because it's still not true. It won't be true when you
repeat it a third time.
lies lies lies
You are unfathomably stupid. If you have anything else to say to me,
please take it offline by emailing me directly.
Naruki Bigglesworth
> <Nar...@nothankyou.com> wrote:
>> you're a moron. There was no
>> need for you to point it out again, because it's still not true.
>> _It won't be true when you repeat it a third time._
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:01:14 -0500, lies lies lies wrote:
> You are unfathomably stupid. If you have anything else to say to me,
> please take it offline by emailing me directly.
Something as simple as breathing is unfathomable to you, so that's not a meaningful insult.
(You probably now think breathing is stupid too.)
And I don't have your email address, you stupid git. Whatever you put in the subject line is
probably just more lies lies lies.
Before you try to give it to me, I do not want it. Because wasting even more of my time on
stupid trolls like you is not on my wish list.
Umin
> I'd like to know if will be possible in next release to open a new tab with a
> new user session.
> It could be much useful to open, for example, two differents email account
> with the same ISP with the same browser.
I find this
http://br.mozdev.org/multifox/
and it looks like exactly what I need.
But it's only for firefox :(
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Umin
lies lies lies
Ah cool. So on this one you set the session and cookies are only shared in
windows of the same session.
lies lies lies
<Nar...@nothankyou.com> wrote:
> Something as simple as breathing is unfathomable to you, so that's not a
> meaningful insult.
> (You probably now think breathing is stupid too.)
>
If breathing were inconceivable to me, I would probably be dead. No, I do
not think breathing is stupid. Not mine anyway. Yours, probably.
> And I don't have your email address, you stupid git. Whatever you put in
> the subject line is
> probably just more lies lies lies.
>
Actually, I put "Re: New tab with new session" in the subject line,
because that is (was, anyway) the subject of the THREAD, a concept which
you have yet to grasp. The email address beside my name works, however,
and you should be using it to insult people instead of your continual
public spewing of veiled attempts at proving how smart you are (often even
the "veiled" part is off-topic).
> Before you try to give it to me, I do not want it. Because wasting even
> more of my time on
> stupid trolls like you is not on my wish list.
Obviously you don't understand the concept. You are the one who provokes
people (or perhaps just me) every time you post, rather than trying to
further the conversation, while I simply try to ignore you but am often
unable to restrain myself in the face of such massive stupidity when
combined with your constant prodding. For the betterment of society,
please stop talking.
Naruki Bigglesworth
Aaron W. Hsu
>I find this
>http://br.mozdev.org/multifox/
Maybe I missed it, but could you possibly remind me again why you didn't
want to just read your mail using Opera Mail instead of using the web
interface? Was there another application that benefits from this? I
think you can run different Opera instances, but I think it's a little
painful to do unless you are already familiar with how Opera works. I
could be wrong though.
Aaron W. Hsu
--
A professor is one who talks in someone else's sleep.
Aaron W. Hsu
>I find this
>http://br.mozdev.org/multifox/
I just ran a test, and yes, it is possible to run two separate Opera
instances, which means that you could do this if you want.
If you duplicate your Opera folder, you can do something like:
opera -pd <folder1>
opera -pd <folder2>
And you will get two different instances of Opera that will not clobber
each other. Additionally, if you use Opera Link, you could probably
achieve some synchonization between them, but it would be better to just
run one with your one program that you wanted, and do everything else
through some specific other one. That way you have a main and a child,
and anything important is kept in the main.
Umin
> Ah cool. So on this one you set the session and cookies are only shared in
> windows of the same session.
more or less
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Umin
Umin
> I just ran a test, and yes, it is possible to run two separate Opera
> instances, which means that you could do this if you want.
> If you duplicate your Opera folder, you can do something like:
> opera -pd <folder1>
> opera -pd <folder2>
ok, thanks... but I don't like to duplicate my Opera :)
I'm paranoic :)
> And you will get two different instances of Opera that will not clobber
> each other.
> Additionally, if you use Opera Link, you could probably
I use Opera link but I can't understand how it could helps me
> achieve some synchonization between them, but it would be better to just
> run one with your one program that you wanted, and do everything else
> through some specific other one. That way you have a main and a child,
> and anything important is kept in the main.
uhm...
anyway thanks
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Umin
Umin
> Maybe I missed it, but could you possibly remind me again why you didn't
> want to just read your mail using Opera Mail instead of using the web
> interface?
At home I use Gmail on imap with The Bat! from many years ago.
Excellent email client and I bought it.
At work I've to use Thunderbird for commercial reason but I can't use
it to login into Gmail becouse... it's... politically incorrect :-) So
I prefere to read my mail from web UI. It's simplest and faster.
There's another reason... I use Opera from many year but I prefer to
use it only as browser. I like Opera Mail very much but I prefer to
keep away the surfing with the mailing activity (privacy and
performance reasons).
Idem for newsreader, feedreader etc.
I use a specific software for each activity
That's it
> Was there another application that benefits from this?
Have you ever try The Bat!, for example?
:-)
bye
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Umin
YinYanger
For a second session, you could use OperaPortable (
http://www.kejut.com/operaportable ).
For more sessions, I think you could use several Opera@USB (
http://www.opera-usb.com ) at the same time. OperaPortable uses always the
same temp folder, while each Opera@USB uses his own folder.
Umin
> For a second session, you could use OperaPortable (
> http://www.kejut.com/operaportable ).
> For more sessions, I think you could use several Opera@USB (
> http://www.opera-usb.com ) at the same time. OperaPortable uses always the
> same temp folder, while each Opera@USB uses his own folder.
thanks a lot but I don't like too much this solution... :(
For the moment I think I'll configure the second Gmail's inbox into the
first account + label + filter so I can check both from the same
account.
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Umin
Aaron W. Hsu
>Have you ever try The Bat!, for example?
>:-)
Bye the time I got to looking at The Bat! Windows was on its way out as
my Desktop of choice. It seemed interesting, but by that time, I was
using Mutt, Mulberry, mailx, nmh, and the like.
Aaron W. Hsu
>Nel suo scritto precedente, Aaron W. Hsu ha sostenuto :
>> I just ran a test, and yes, it is possible to run two separate Opera
>> instances, which means that you could do this if you want.
>> If you duplicate your Opera folder, you can do something like:
>> opera -pd <folder1>
>> opera -pd <folder2>
>ok, thanks... but I don't like to duplicate my Opera :)
>I'm paranoic :)
I thought the whole point was to duplicate the state of your browser so
that you could have different sessions?
Umin
> Bye the time I got to looking at The Bat! Windows was on its way out as
> my Desktop of choice.
yes, TB! is only for windows.
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Umin
Umin
> I thought the whole point was to duplicate the state of your browser so
> that you could have different sessions?
yes :)
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Umin
Naruki Bigglesworth
> At work I've to use Thunderbird for commercial reason but I can't use
> it to login into Gmail becouse... it's... politically incorrect :-) So
> I prefere to read my mail from web UI. It's simplest and faster.
>
I don't know if this makes a difference, but last week I got the new Thunderbird client. It is
vastly improved. The old 2.x one was serviceable, but the new 3.0 one is actually useful.
They've added tabs, searching (I don't consider the old thing searching), and best of all
threads (finally catching up with newsgroup innovations).
You should give it a look.
Naruki Bigglesworth
In that case, running two different sessions would NORMALLY cause your bookmarks and such to
grow out of synch with each other, since they are separate instances.
By adding Opera Link into the mix, it will automatically keep them together, even though they
maintain separate cookies.
Still, it's a bit of a clunky solution for what you want.
Umin
> In that case, running two different sessions would NORMALLY cause your
> bookmarks and such to grow out of synch with each other, since they are
> separate instances.
> By adding Opera Link into the mix, it will automatically keep them together,
> even though they maintain separate cookies.
yes, I know but I don't like to have 2 differents installation of any
browser. I don't want duplicate plugins, widget, toolbar, bla bla bla
:)
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Umin
Umin
> I don't know if this makes a difference, but last week I got the new
> Thunderbird client. It is vastly improved. The old 2.x one was serviceable,
> but the new 3.0 one is actually useful.
> They've added tabs, searching (I don't consider the old thing searching), and
> best of all threads (finally catching up with newsgroup innovations).
> You should give it a look.
I don't like too much Mozilla software ;-)
Mozilla apps are always slower than other, needs a lot of memory, needs
a lot of plugin => more memory usage and more crashes possibility
I sow Thunderbird 3 when it was beta but then I prefered postbox (now
not freeware) and then I come back to The Bat!
Even if i've to change, I'll change to Opera Mail or... I don't know.
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Umin
Aaron W. Hsu
This is not two different installations. It's really the same
instalation, you're just running it twice, which simply means that you
create two preference folders. In one preference folder, you don't do
anything that you want to keep, or you use Opera Link, in the other,
your main preference folder, you keep everything you like.
Umin
> This is not two different installations. It's really the same
> instalation, you're just running it twice, which simply means that you
> create two preference folders. In one preference folder, you don't do
> anything that you want to keep, or you use Opera Link, in the other,
> your main preference folder, you keep everything you like.
ahhhhhhh ok, now I understand what you mean.
I'll try, thanks (but I'd prefer a feature like firefox! ;)
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Umin
Aaron W. Hsu
>Aaron W. Hsu ha detto questo luned� :
You should submit a feature request. It may be something that the Opera
team would consider.
Umin
> You should submit a feature request. It may be something that the Opera
> team would consider.
where can I do it? I thought that this is the right place...
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Umin
Aaron W. Hsu
This is a newsgroup where Opera fans can come to share their wish lists
and make comments on them with other Opera fans (or not fans), but it
isn't officially considered in the development cycle of Opera Software.
People still visit here from Opera Software, but I believe that this is
on their own time, and not in an official capacity. Thus, it is good to
share here so that you can get feedback on your idea and possibly
discover that such a feature already exists, but if you want to make
sure that it ends up somewhere on Opera's list, whether as a no-go or a
possibility, you should look at the support options on Opera's site.
Umin
[...]
> sure that it ends up somewhere on Opera's list, whether as a no-go or a
> possibility, you should look at the support options on Opera's site.
> Aaron W. Hsu
ok, thanks. I thought there was a special forum or similar (like this
ng) and not a generic support option.
Greetings
Happy Xmas
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Umin