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Eric S. Johansson

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Jul 7, 2006, 6:56:12 PM7/7/06
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I have some 200,000 messages in my e-mail hierarchy. Right now, Opera 9
is fetching editors for every single bloody message. Needless to say,
this is somewhat disconcerting. But so far seems to be doing things right
and marking only the unread messages as unread (currently 14000 and
climbing messages).

I am trying to find analogues to how I used e-mail with Thunderbird. for
example I would filter all of my mailing lists tooth individual folders
and ignore them until I had time to read them. Is there any way to make
mailing list messages not show up in the unread collection folder?
Seriously, I really want to ignore mailing list messages until I have time
to see them.

the next is I don't want opera's spam filtering. I want to turn it off
completely but I haven't quite figured out how or where yet. Ideally I
would like to take over the button so I can use it to communicate with my
upstream anti-spam system. Any pointers on that?

My third problem is that I have built hierarchies of folders for e-mail
and now that has been flattened. Anyway to get the hierarchy back?

there are many things I like but the cost of getting started is starting
to look too high.

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Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Mick

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Jul 8, 2006, 6:42:07 PM7/8/06
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Eric S. Johansson wrote:

> I am trying to find analogues to how I used e-mail with Thunderbird. for
> example I would filter all of my mailing lists tooth individual folders
> and ignore them until I had time to read them. Is there any way to make
> mailing list messages not show up in the unread collection folder?
> Seriously, I really want to ignore mailing list messages until I have time
> to see them.

Click on Unread and then use the "View" button in the Mail toolbar and
untick the types of messages you do not want to see in Unread (e.g. mailing
lists, newsgroups, etc).

I hope this helps. Someone else should help with the other points you
raise, because I am not sure what's the solution.

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Regards,
Mick
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hansa

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Jul 9, 2006, 7:20:02 PM7/9/06
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:56:12 +0200, Eric S. Johansson <e...@harvee.org>
wrote:

For the spam issue: right-click the spam view entry, choose Properties. On
the next dialog choose the "rules" tab and set internal filter to "Off".

To create a hieracrchy, you can create filters with your own rules. These
filters can have child filters, that only look in the parent for filtering
(if you like), but they can also filter the received view. Checking the
"mark messages as filtered" checkbox causes the filtered messages not to
show up in other view any more, like e.g., Received.


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hansa is using O9.01 (8509) on Win XP home SP2
Dell laptop Inspiron 8500

NM Public

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Jul 11, 2006, 4:33:51 PM7/11/06
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Sur 2006-07-07, Eric S. Johansson skribis:

> Ideally I would like to take over the button so I can use it to
> communicate with my upstream anti-spam system. Any pointers on
> that?

The *standard* way to do that is for your IMAP service provider
to use the SIEVE filtering language and your IMAP client (e.g.
Opera) to use the ManageSIEVE protocol to upload and activate
SIEVE scripts [1]. Since Opera is a standards-based client, I
assume/hope that this will be available in a future release. Does
anyone know what, if any, plans Opera has for SIEVE support?

Thanks,
Nancy

[1] SIEVE-related links are in this section of my blog's sidebar:
<http://deflexion.com/#sieve>

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Bookmarks & Blog: <http://deflexion.com/>

Eric S. Johansson

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Jul 16, 2006, 11:48:29 AM7/16/06
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:33:51 -0400, NM Public <ago...@nm.deflexion.com>
wrote:

> Sur 2006-07-07, Eric S. Johansson skribis:
>> Ideally I would like to take over the button so I can use it to
>> communicate with my upstream anti-spam system. Any pointers on that?
>
> The *standard* way to do that is for your IMAP service provider to use
> the SIEVE filtering language and your IMAP client (e.g. Opera) to use
> the ManageSIEVE protocol to upload and activate SIEVE scripts [1]. Since
> Opera is a standards-based client, I assume/hope that this will be
> available in a future release. Does anyone know what, if any, plans
> Opera has for SIEVE support?
>

that's a really good point and one that I have considered using myself.
given that sieve is not widespread, and that manage sieve is still a draft
standard, I need to look at other options such as embedded plug-ins or an
external tools such as a drag and drop icon.

but what's worse, is I have just discovered a serious flaw which makes
Opera totally unusable for me. I can't correct speech recognition
errors. I'm disabled, must use speech recognition and right now, every
time I try to correct something, it doesn't correct the text in the
editing window. That is unacceptable. The only thing that would be worse
would be intermittent ability to correct.

thanks for the help. It looks like it's time to nuke Opera nine and wait
for Opera 10. maybe they will have support NaturallySpeaking directly by
then.

PS, if you want to reply, e-mail directly please. Unless there is a
solution for this accessibility problem, I won't see any newsgroup replies.

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