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Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

happy.oys...@ariplex.com (Happy Oyster) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:51:43 UT

NO! Opera MUST ASK!

Re: Is it possible to change the user-agent string for mail and news?

cdposter-use...@yahoo.com (ceed) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:16:01 UT

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:37:41 -0600, Naruki Bigglesworth
I actually thought this would be different in Linux than in Windows. That
may bot be the case. I will take the question to opera.general and see
what I get. Thanks.

Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

cdposter-use...@yahoo.com (ceed) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:12:34 UT

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:49:09 -0600, Happy Oyster
And after all that (whatever it is) the questions remains: Why is your
locale set to German? Change it and Opera will follow. You make it sound
like some plot cooked up by a mix of Internet companies, browser vendors
and Nazis. That's almost funny, but only almost.

Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

happy.oys...@ariplex.com (Happy Oyster) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 02:49:43 UT

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:02:02 -0500, "David W. Hodgins"
That is bullshit.
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Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

happy.oys...@ariplex.com (Happy Oyster) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 02:49:09 UT

On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:23:56 +0900, Naruki Bigglesworth <Nar...@nothankyou.com>
wrote:
So you have seen A BIT of the problems behind all that.
One thing is: If one is in Germany, "THEY" think that one speaks German. That is
WRONG. Imagine all the people who - may it be on vacation or on tour for their

Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

dwhodg...@nomail.afraid.org (David W. Hodgins) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 02:02:02 UT

Then ask the person who installed linux for you, to install
windows. I've had enough of your whining.

Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

happy.oys...@ariplex.com (Happy Oyster) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 01:50:40 UT

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:56:02 -0500, "David W. Hodgins"
IT MUST ASK THE PERSON, who is installing it!
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Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

nar...@nothankyou.com (Naruki Bigglesworth) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 01:23:56 UT

I understand. I get this problem (in Windows) all the time. I have a Japanese OS, because I
cannot get English in my office. I cannot read Japanese (very well), so I always try to install
English versions of software. About half of the time this fails because they are reading my
system settings.
People here are mistakenly saying we explicitly chose the language settings. I can only guess

Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

dwhodg...@nomail.afraid.org (David W. Hodgins) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 01:04:58 UT

It's simple if you understand that there is one place where
the language is set for the system (override-able by individual
users). Individual programs do not have their own language
settings.
Imagine what it would be like for non-english users, if they
had to use an English interface to select their own language,

Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

dwhodg...@nomail.afraid.org (David W. Hodgins) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:56:02 UT

How else is opera supposed to know what language the user
is using? Up until now, you've been saying opera changed
the locale setting, which it did not.
In order to follow linux standards, opera MUST READ IT!
If you don't want programs that use the locale setting to
show you German, then don't set the system up to use

Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

dwhodg...@nomail.afraid.org (David W. Hodgins) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:59:40 UT

The installer in this case is the suse installer, not opera.
You've configured your system to use German. Opera didn't
do that, you did. If you want English, change the
configuration.

Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

happy.oys...@ariplex.com (Happy Oyster) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:41:07 UT

It is not "inconvenient", it is a gigantic mess.
Have you ever been confronted with your system being messed up with hieroglyphs
because some idiot installer messed up char sets?
An installer MUST ASK which language and with character sets to use.
The various programs on a computer have totally differents tasks, which MUST NOT

Re: Is it possible to change the user-agent string for mail and news?

nar...@nothankyou.com (Naruki Bigglesworth) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:37:41 UT

This might be better posted under opera.general.
If you want a Linux-specific solution, it would probably involve intercepting outgoing messages
from Opera (and other such programs) and doing a search/replace. In other words, that would
probably have nothing to do with Opera.

Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

cdposter-use...@yahoo.com (ceed) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:28:52 UT

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:41:51 -0600, Happy Oyster
Opera, or any program, should read locale settings which is a good thing
since some language have special characters. I am bi-lingual myself and
really appreciate being able to set my system to a certain locale settings
which programs mostly follows. I am sorry it has inconvenienced you, but

Re: Bloody Nazi-Swine !!!!!!!!!

happy.oys...@ariplex.com (Happy Oyster) — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:40:55 UT

Ah, thanks. I thought that there were some parameters involved.
------------------------------ -----------
locale
LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="de_DE.UTF-8"