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SA  
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 More options Aug 18 2006, 12:25 pm
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From: SA <sa666...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:55:46 -0230
Local: Fri, Aug 18 2006 12:25 pm
Subject: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006
OK, I can't figure out what's going on here, and I'm at my wits end,
especially since it works fine in Kubuntu (what I use on another system).
I'm using the latest versions of Opera (9.0.1.xxx.6) and Flash.

Two problems occur:

1)  Starting with a new .opera directory, going to YouTube and clicking a
video doesn't seem to do anything at all.  No downloading, no caching,
nothing.

2)  Using my normal .opera directory, clicking a video shows that it's being
loaded into cache, since I see the video being downloaded by the browser
itself, and *not* be redirected to the Flash plugin.

Does anyone have any idea what's going on here?  Is there some other
setting/file that Opera uses that isn't part of the Opera package that
could cause this?  Obviously there's something different between Mandriva
and Kubuntu wrt this, but I can start with a fresh installation of Opera on
both, and it still doesn't work in Mandriva.  Arrghh :(

Steve


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Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen  
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 More options Aug 21 2006, 2:35 am
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From: Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen <ei...@opera.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:35:05 +0200
Local: Mon, Aug 21 2006 2:35 am
Subject: Re: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006

If nothing at all happens, then this is not your problem, but just in
case: Make sure the flash library is not in a directory where any of
the path components is "netscape".  For some reason, flash detects
this case and then video playback doesn't work on youtube nor
videos.google.  However, in this case the flash should still work, it
just does not show any video.

Note that opera is a bit stubborn about which plug-in to use, so you
may have to manually modify which plug-in it uses in
prefs->advanced->downloads, mime type application/x-shockwave-flash.

To be sure which plug-in opera uses, you can 'ps xwww' while opera
shows the flash and look at the final argument to
'operapluginwrapper'.  It should be the complete path to the plug-in
in use.

eirik


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TomD  
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 More options Aug 22 2006, 12:11 pm
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From: "TomD" <no...@nowhere.com>
Date: 22 Aug 2006 16:11:57 GMT
Local: Tues, Aug 22 2006 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:55:46 -0230, SA wrote:
> OK, I can't figure out what's going on here, and I'm at my wits end,
> especially since it works fine in Kubuntu (what I use on another system).
> I'm using the latest versions of Opera (9.0.1.xxx.6) and Flash.

For what it's worth, I'm finding that the flash at youtube.com won't work
in either opera 9.0 or 9.01 on a brand new Gentoo install with all current
updates.  I'm using the static qt version only because I haven't installed
qt yet.  It works fine in firefox on this install...pretty annoying.

Tom


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Robt. W. Fletcher Jr  
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 More options Aug 22 2006, 7:19 pm
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From: "Robt. W. Fletcher Jr" <m...@wa.us>
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:19:31 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 22 2006 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006

"TomD" <no...@nowhere.com> writes:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:55:46 -0230, SA wrote:

>> OK, I  can't figure out  what's going on  here, and I'm at  my wits
>> end,  especially since  it works  fine in  Kubuntu (what  I  use on
>> another  system).    I'm  using   the  latest  versions   of  Opera
>> (9.0.1.xxx.6) and Flash.

> For what it's worth, I'm finding that the flash at youtube.com won't
> work in either opera 9.0 or  9.01 on a brand new Gentoo install with
> all current updates.  I'm using the static qt version only because I
> haven't  installed  qt  yet.   It  works fine  in  firefox  on  this
> install...pretty annoying.

Most strange.  It works in my gentoo system

~% uname --all
Linux localhost 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 #1 Thu Apr 13 19:16:40 PDT 2006 i686 Celeron (Mendocino) GNU/Linux

A snippet of Opera's  --debuplugin output.

opera: [plugin path   ] #001: /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins
opera: [plugin path   ] #002: /home/me/.opera/realplugin
opera: [plugin path   ] #003: /home/me/.opera/gxineplugin
opera: [plugin path   ] #004: /home/me/.opera/mplayerplugin
opera: [plugin path   ] #005: /home/me/.opera/flashplugin

~% ls -al ~/.opera/flashplugin/
total 2
drwxr-x--x  2 me users   88 Apr  1 17:38 .
drwx--x--x 22 me users 1784 Aug 22 16:02 ..
lrwxrwxrwx  1 me users   39 Apr  1 17:38 libflashplayer.so -> /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so

I tend to be a control freak -- I have separate directories in
~/.opera/ that only point to one (1) plugin. Makes it easier to
disable individual plugins.

I using 9.01-20060728.1 -- the static version of Opera and the current
version of flash.

~% emerge -pv netscape-flash

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] net-www/netscape-flash-7.0.63  0 kB

Most  strange.  One of  the guys  on the  Gentoo forums  reported (and
issued  a  bug-report against  Opera)  the  netscape  problem i.e.  if
netscape is in the flash path, flash doesn't work.

I'm identifying as Mozilla. (F12 output).

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Graham  
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 More options Aug 22 2006, 8:01 pm
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From: Graham <gort65REM...@ALLCAPShotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 01:01:17 +0100
Local: Tues, Aug 22 2006 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:55:46 -0230, SA wrote:
> Does anyone have any idea what's going on here?  Is there some other
> setting/file that Opera uses that isn't part of the Opera package that
> could cause this?  Obviously there's something different between Mandriva
> and Kubuntu wrt this, but I can start with a fresh installation of Opera on
> both, and it still doesn't work in Mandriva.  Arrghh :(

> Steve

I have Mandriva 2006 and have no problems with YouTube's Flash videos. I
have found that you *might* need to manually inform Opera about the
whereabouts of the Flash plugin directory, but maybe that's because I
installed it as a user in my ~/.mozilla/plugins (I used to use Firefox as
my main browser and still have it installed) rather than it being
installed elsewhere on the system. In any case, maybe a look in
opera:plugins might be in order. If it shows that Opera doesn't know where
the Flash plug-in is, then you can set it via
Tools>Preferences>Content>Plug-in Options>Plug-in Path. Other than that,
I'm not sure what's wrong, other than to say it works for me.

Graham


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Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen  
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 More options Aug 23 2006, 2:18 am
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From: Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen <ei...@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:18:03 +0200
Local: Wed, Aug 23 2006 2:18 am
Subject: Re: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006

"TomD" <no...@nowhere.com> writes:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:55:46 -0230, SA wrote:

>> OK, I can't figure out what's going on here, and I'm at my wits end,
>> especially since it works fine in Kubuntu (what I use on another system).
>> I'm using the latest versions of Opera (9.0.1.xxx.6) and Flash.

> For what it's worth, I'm finding that the flash at youtube.com won't work
> in either opera 9.0 or 9.01 on a brand new Gentoo install with all current
> updates.  I'm using the static qt version only because I haven't installed
> qt yet.  It works fine in firefox on this install...pretty annoying.

> Tom

Gentoo installs flash in a directory where one of the path components
is 'netscape'.  Move libflashplayer.so somewhere else, tell opera
where to look for it, and reconfigure application/x-shockwave-flash to
use it from the new location.  If libflashplayer.so is placed in a
directory where one of the path components is 'netscape', it won't
work on youtube.

(Alternatively, you could use a hex editor and modify the string
'netscape' inside libflashplayer.so.  That works too.)

eirik


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Whiskers  
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 More options Aug 23 2006, 9:20 am
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From: Whiskers <catwhee...@operamail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:20:45 +0100
Local: Wed, Aug 23 2006 9:20 am
Subject: Re: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006
On 2006-08-23, Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen <ei...@opera.com> wrote:

Following the hint in your earlier post to this thread, I used 'Tools -
Preferences - Advanced - Content - Plug-in Options - Change path' to
un-select all the entries mentioning 'netscape' (leaving 'opera' and
'mozilla' selected), and now the Flash content at 'YouTube' does play in
Opera.  (Mandriva 2005).

Is there some sort of problem between YouTube and AOL/Netscape?

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Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen  
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 More options Aug 23 2006, 10:42 am
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From: Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen <ei...@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:42:42 +0200
Local: Wed, Aug 23 2006 10:42 am
Subject: Re: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006

As far as I understand, the flash plug-in works fine in firefox even
when placed in a "netscape" directory.  It just doesn't work in opera.
I have no idea what the flash plug-in is doing differently based on
it's installation path, or why it affects only opera.  Or for that
matter, why it is only the video playback that fails.  Other flash
content seems to work.

eirik


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Tullio Chersi  
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 More options Aug 23 2006, 11:46 am
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From: Tullio Chersi <tullio.che...@tin.it>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:46:49 +0200
Local: Wed, Aug 23 2006 11:46 am
Subject: Re: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006

I have my flashplayer plugin in the home/.mozilla/plugins directory. It
works with both Mozilla and Firefox in www.nasa.gov but gives me only
the audio stream in www.jpl.nasa.gov and I don't know why.
Tullio Chersi

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Robt. W. Fletcher Jr  
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 More options Aug 23 2006, 12:03 pm
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From: "Robt. W. Fletcher Jr" <m...@wa.us>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:03:54 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 23 2006 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006

Tullio Chersi <tullio.che...@tin.it> writes:
> I have my flashplayer plugin in the home/.mozilla/plugins
> directory. It works with both Mozilla and Firefox in www.nasa.gov but
> gives me only the audio stream in www.jpl.nasa.gov and I don't know
> why.

This link
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/students06/index-flash.html plays
sound and 'video' -- some of the other links only play audio.

FF and Opera 9.01-400(.1) both work on the above link.  Maybe some of
the jpl links/require need flash 8/9 (Windoz only)

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 More options Aug 23 2006, 9:14 pm
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From: Tullio Chersi <tullio.che...@tin.it>
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 03:14:40 +0200
Local: Wed, Aug 23 2006 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube/Flash problems with Opera in Mandriva 2006
Robt. W. Fletcher Jr wrote:

My Mozilla 1.7.13 also works on this link with Flashplayer 7.
Tullio

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