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Espen Sand  
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 More options Jan 6 2005, 4:25 am
Newsgroups: opera.linux, opera.beta, opera.os.solaris
From: Espen Sand <es...@opera.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:25:40 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jan 6 2005 4:25 am
Subject: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
Hi all,

Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD is available for
download. As usual, discuss the new version in opera.linux, on the
opera-linux mailing list, and in the my.opera.com Opera for Linux
forum.

Download:

http://www.opera.com/download/

Changelog:

The UNIX specific changelog is not online yet but will soon.
Please refer to the changelog for the windows version. Note
that voice support is not activated in the UNIX version.

http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/operabeta/

In addition there are some extra changes for the UNIX version
as listed below:

- Support for mouse buttons 6 and 7 (side buttons).
- Support for detecting a running KDE environment and reading the KDE plug-in path.
- Added Alt + F11 as an alternative shortcut to toggle the menu bar.
- When running the "opera" script from the extract directory of a tar.gz or tar.bz, Opera
   will automatically create a personal settings directory so that "-personaldir" is not required.
   The ECMAScript console will also work in this mode of operation.
- The default font size for forms and compose fields are now the same as for PRE font.
- Proper colors for PRE, CODE, and TT fonts. The fonts were difficult to read in user mode
   due to gray text on white background.
- Fix to provide correct redrawing when mouse is leaving elements with CSS hover attribute set.
- Accept Bitstream Vera fonts as suitable default fonts.
- Better font size options for smoothly scalable fonts.

Enjoy,

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Helmut Jarausch  
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 More options Jan 6 2005, 5:16 am
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From: Helmut Jarausch <jarau...@remove.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:16:35 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jan 6 2005 5:16 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available

Espen Sand wrote:
> Hi all,

> Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD is available for
> download. As usual, discuss the new version in opera.linux, on the
> opera-linux mailing list, and in the my.opera.com Opera for Linux
> forum.

Many thanks.

I'd like to just point out a remaining printing problem.
Please try to print
http://rpmseek.com/rpm/cups-libs-1.1.22-2.i586.html?hl=de&cs=cups:PN:...

once with opera 8 beta
and then with mozilla or firefox

Many thanks,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrst. f. Numer. Math
RWTH-Aachen University
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Helmut Jarausch  
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 More options Jan 6 2005, 5:18 am
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From: Helmut Jarausch <jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:18:44 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jan 6 2005 5:18 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
Espen Sand wrote:
> Hi all,

> Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD is available for
> download. As usual, discuss the new version in opera.linux, on the
> opera-linux mailing list, and in the my.opera.com Opera for Linux
> forum.

Many thanks.

I'd like to just point out a remaining printing problem.
Please try to print
http://rpmseek.com/rpm/cups-libs-1.1.22-2.i586.html?hl=de&cs=cups:PN:...

once with opera 8 beta
and then with mozilla or firefox

Many thanks,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrst. f. Numer. Math
RWTH-Aachen University
Germany


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Espen Sand  
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 More options Jan 6 2005, 6:20 am
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From: Espen Sand <es...@opera.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:20:31 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jan 6 2005 6:20 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available

Button 6 and 7 have been mapped to back/fwd history navigation. That can
not be turned off at the moment, but if this is a problem, then we have to
do something with that.

Is it so that you get (or want to have) horizontal wheel events with you
current setup?

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Oscar  
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 More options Jan 6 2005, 10:20 am
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From: Oscar <furi...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:20:30 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jan 6 2005 10:20 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available

yah! <:o)

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Steven V. Gunhouse  
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 More options Jan 6 2005, 4:17 pm
Newsgroups: opera.linux, opera.beta, opera.os.solaris
From: "Steven V. Gunhouse" <svgunho...@ameritech.net>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:17:50 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jan 6 2005 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
One bug reported in the forums already ... when configuring fonts, the  
sample text doesn't change according to your selections.

Otherwise ... I don't know, generally feels more like the Windows version.  
A little more consistency between the two. Hard to say exactly.

I presume none of the bugs reported in the two weeks since 8.0 B1 was  
released for Windows have been fixed yet ... well, except that it has the  
right title when installing over an older version.

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Espen Sand  
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 More options Jan 7 2005, 2:10 am
Newsgroups: opera.linux, opera.beta, opera.os.solaris
From: Espen Sand <es...@opera.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:10:17 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 7 2005 2:10 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available

Steven V. Gunhouse wrote:
> One bug reported in the forums already ... when configuring fonts, the  
> sample text doesn't change according to your selections.

Yes, I have seen that as well.

> Otherwise ... I don't know, generally feels more like the Windows
> version.  A little more consistency between the two. Hard to say exactly.

> I presume none of the bugs reported in the two weeks since 8.0 B1 was  
> released for Windows have been fixed yet ... well, except that it has
> the  right title when installing over an older version.

We use same code version as the windows beta. The title bar code is platform
specific to some extent.

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Espen Sand  
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 More options Jan 7 2005, 8:31 am
Newsgroups: opera.linux
From: Espen Sand <es...@opera.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:31:02 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 7 2005 8:31 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available

Yes, hardcoding will be removed in the next release. By default back/fwd will be
bound to button6 and button7 but that can then be disabled by commenting out
"Button6 = Back" and "Button7 = Forward" statements in standard_mouse.ini
(in /usr/share/opera/ini/). The file can be copied to ~/.opera/mouse/
first so that this setting is private for you.

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Robert Hull  
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 More options Jan 8 2005, 7:43 am
Newsgroups: opera.linux, opera.beta, opera.os.solaris
From: Robert Hull <Rob...@please.do-not-spam.me.uk>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:43:52 +0000
Local: Sat, Jan 8 2005 7:43 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
In message <41DD0414.40...@opera.com>, Espen Sand <es...@opera.com>
wrote

>Hi all,

>Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD is available for
>download. As usual, discuss the new version in opera.linux, on the
>opera-linux mailing list, and in the my.opera.com Opera for Linux
>forum.

>Download:

>http://www.opera.com/download/

Is there a 64 bit version available ? I could not see any indication on
the beta page.
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Michael A Chase  
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 More options Jan 8 2005, 11:08 pm
Newsgroups: opera.linux, opera.beta, opera.os.solaris
From: Michael A Chase <mch...@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:08:04 -0800
Local: Sat, Jan 8 2005 11:08 pm
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:25:40 +0100, Espen Sand wrote:
> Download:

> http://www.opera.com/download/

The first two US sites I tried (e-tech-solution.com and ftp.130th.net)
don't have the version 8 directory.  I eventually downloaded from an Irish
site.

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Yurk Yurk  
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 More options Jan 9 2005, 8:28 pm
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From: Yurk Yurk <yurkyurky...@yahoo.com.au>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:28:41 +1000
Local: Sun, Jan 9 2005 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available

"Fixed problem selecting the first letter of a text selection with the
mouse."

Hallelujah!


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Tim Altman  
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 More options Jan 10 2005, 3:07 am
Newsgroups: opera.linux, opera.beta, opera.os.solaris
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From: Tim Altman <unavaila...@for.now.invalid>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:07:00 +0100
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
Fup2 opera.linux.  Please set a follow-up group when cross-posting.

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:43:52 +0000, Robert Hull

        I don't believe there is at this time.

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Robert Hull  
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 More options Jan 10 2005, 5:52 am
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From: Robert Hull <Rob...@please.do-not-spam.me.uk>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:52:28 +0000
Local: Mon, Jan 10 2005 5:52 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
In message <hrd4u0t0mfhg0rkpokcojuua6kv5v1p...@4ax.com>, Tim Altman
<unavaila...@for.now.invalid> wrote
>Fup2 opera.linux.  Please set a follow-up group when cross-posting.

>On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:43:52 +0000, Robert Hull
><Rob...@please.do-not-spam.me.uk> wrote:

>>In message <41DD0414.40...@opera.com>, Espen Sand <es...@opera.com>
>>wrote

>>>http://www.opera.com/download/

>>Is there a 64 bit version available ? I could not see any indication on
>>the beta page.

>       I don't believe there is at this time.

In this case, the 4th line of my .sig should read "if it's not there and
you can't see it - it wasn't there in the first place :-(
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Richard L. Hamilton  
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 More options Jan 17 2005, 8:42 am
Newsgroups: opera.linux, opera.beta, opera.os.solaris
From: Richard.L.Hamil...@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:42:46 -0000
Local: Mon, Jan 17 2005 8:42 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
_Still_ leaving the Java applets out in separate windows instead of
reparenting them into the browser window.  (SPARC Solaris 9, fully
patched).

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Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen  
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 More options Jan 17 2005, 9:04 am
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From: Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen <ei...@opera.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:04:59 +0100
Local: Mon, Jan 17 2005 9:04 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
Richard.L.Hamil...@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) writes:

> _Still_ leaving the Java applets out in separate windows instead of
> reparenting them into the browser window.  (SPARC Solaris 9, fully
> patched).

Thanks for the reminder.  I still don't know why it happens, though.

eirik


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Richard L. Hamilton  
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 More options Jan 18 2005, 1:12 am
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From: Richard.L.Hamil...@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:12:40 -0000
Local: Tues, Jan 18 2005 1:12 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
In article <87d5w4rw1g....@opera.com>,
        Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen <ei...@opera.com> writes:

> Richard.L.Hamil...@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) writes:

>> _Still_ leaving the Java applets out in separate windows instead of
>> reparenting them into the browser window.  (SPARC Solaris 9, fully
>> patched).

> Thanks for the reminder.  I still don't know why it happens, though.

Any ideas on how to find out?  (syscall trace, xscope, etc)

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Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen  
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 More options Jan 18 2005, 3:11 am
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From: Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen <ei...@opera.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:11:11 +0100
Local: Tues, Jan 18 2005 3:11 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
Richard.L.Hamil...@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) writes:

> In article <87d5w4rw1g....@opera.com>,
>    Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen <ei...@opera.com> writes:
>> Richard.L.Hamil...@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) writes:

>>> _Still_ leaving the Java applets out in separate windows instead of
>>> reparenting them into the browser window.  (SPARC Solaris 9, fully
>>> patched).

>> Thanks for the reminder.  I still don't know why it happens, though.

> Any ideas on how to find out?  (syscall trace, xscope, etc)

Opera is supposed to, at increasingly longer intervals, look through
pretty much all windows on the x server looking for one named "Opera
will reparent me into <number>" (or something very similar).

Then, that window will be reparented into the window with the id as
given in the title.

So either:

- That code doesn't get run.
- The tree walk using XQueryTree fails to find the window.
- Maybe the string match on the window fails...
- Or the reparent itself fails...

Some of these can probably be tested by external tracing, in
particular seeing if the calls to XQueryTree ever returns the java
window (with the correct title) in the children_return parameter...

eirik


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Jellby  
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 More options Jan 21 2005, 10:49 am
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From: Jellby <jel...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:49:20 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 21 2005 10:49 am
Subject: Re: Opera 8 beta for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD available
Among other things, Espen Sand saw fit to write:

> Button 6 and 7 have been mapped to back/fwd history navigation. That can
> not be turned off at the moment, but if this is a problem, then we have to
> do something with that.

> Is it so that you get (or want to have) horizontal wheel events with you
> current setup?

With my touchpad, I can usually scroll vertically or horizontally moving the
finger along the right or bottom edge, this is very convenient and
intuitive... but it doesn't work with current beta.

I see you have replied this will be configurable, great! Now, I really think
this is an option that should be available in the UI, maybe with the
middle-click options or in a new "mouse preferences" tab.

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