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Frank A.

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:14:29 PM1/4/10
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Is there any way of controlling the layout of the Email, Feeds, Filters,
Searches, etc on the Mail panel (F4)? I never use most of them and its
cluttering the page. I think I speak for most users in that they want
their newsgroups in one area, their email in another, and their feeds in
another. Most of us couldn't care less about Attachments, Labels,
Followed Threads or Filters. Email - Newsgroups - Feeds. Opera needs to
get this better organized. Also folders need to be able to be implemented
for email and feeds. Having all feeds being dumped into one area is
absurd. Some of us follow hundreds of feeds. It enables you to track
stuff so much more efficiently than stumbling from website to website
checking for new stuff. So RSS rocks. No question. Now it needs
organization.

Also for Notes - we need a timer implemented. So when I write a note, I
have a reminder available that will give me a visual alert, an audio
alert, an email alert or a SMS alert to my phone in case I'm out.

Remco Lanting

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:27:18 PM1/4/10
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:14:29 +0100, Frank A. <nomor...@spam.com> wrote:

> Is there any way of controlling the layout of the Email, Feeds, Filters,
> Searches, etc on the Mail panel (F4)? I never use most of them and its
> cluttering the page.

I think you can manually delete those views from the some .ini file. Never
done so myself, so you'll need someone else to help you with this.

> I think I speak for most users in that they want their newsgroups in one
> area, their email in another, and their feeds in another. Most of us
> couldn't care less about Attachments, Labels, Followed Threads or
> Filters. Email - Newsgroups - Feeds. Opera needs to get this better
> organized. Also folders need to be able to be implemented for email and
> feeds. Having all feeds being dumped into one area is absurd. Some of
> us follow hundreds of feeds. It enables you to track stuff so much more
> efficiently than stumbling from website to website checking for new
> stuff. So RSS rocks. No question. Now it needs organization.

In Opera you use filters to organise messages. Be it email, newsgroups or
feeds. There are no folders in Opera for that, and I doubt there ever will
be. There is one single store for messages (although by account), and
every access point you see in the panel is a filter. Before going any
further, I suggest you read the mail tutorial:
http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/mail/

> Also for Notes - we need a timer implemented. So when I write a note, I
> have a reminder available that will give me a visual alert, an audio
> alert, an email alert or a SMS alert to my phone in case I'm out.

That's a nice idea, but better suited for opera.wishlist. I also think
there are Unite services available that do this, or similar. It's worth
checking out.

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Remco Lanting

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Frank A.

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:07:34 AM1/5/10
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:27:18 -0600, Remco Lanting
<remco....@no.spam.at.gmail.com.please> wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:14:29 +0100, Frank A. <nomor...@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there any way of controlling the layout of the Email, Feeds,
>> Filters, Searches, etc on the Mail panel (F4)? I never use most of
>> them and its cluttering the page.
>
> I think you can manually delete those views from the some .ini file.
> Never done so myself, so you'll need someone else to help you with this.

Yeah - you're right. I remember a few years ago editing the Speedial .ini
list and it worked great. You can do much with an .ini file. :)

>> I think I speak for most users in that they want their newsgroups in
>> one area, their email in another, and their feeds in another. Most of
>> us couldn't care less about Attachments, Labels, Followed Threads or
>> Filters. Email - Newsgroups - Feeds. Opera needs to get this better
>> organized. Also folders need to be able to be implemented for email
>> and feeds. Having all feeds being dumped into one area is absurd.
>> Some of us follow hundreds of feeds. It enables you to track stuff so
>> much more efficiently than stumbling from website to website checking
>> for new stuff. So RSS rocks. No question. Now it needs organization.
>

> In Opera you use filters to organize messages. Be it email, newsgroups

> or feeds. There are no folders in Opera for that, and I doubt there ever
> will be. There is one single store for messages (although by account),
> and every access point you see in the panel is a filter. Before going
> any further, I suggest you read the mail tutorial:
> http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/mail/

Thanks for that reminder. I do need to keep on referring back to it as my
knowledge in this area increases and I can make more use of that I read.
But....Opera needs to get with the program. Every major email program
allows folders. Its the natural way to organize things, be it bookmarks,
files, groups of folders, etc. Cut and Paste are the magic commands to
perfect organization. Opera does it perfectly in Bookmarks. They just
need to use the same way of organization for Feeds, Email and Usenet. And
Notes...:)

>> Also for Notes - we need a timer implemented. So when I write a note,
>> I have a reminder available that will give me a visual alert, an audio
>> alert, an email alert or a SMS alert to my phone in case I'm out.
>
> That's a nice idea, but better suited for opera.wishlist. I also think
> there are Unite services available that do this, or similar. It's worth
> checking out.

Or Widgets possibly.

Dapxin

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:11:49 PM1/5/10
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Take your time to learn / explore filters. Took me days to figure the
idea out.

Once I did. wow! Email heaven!

Frank A.

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:18:30 AM1/6/10
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> Take your time to learn / explore filters. Took me days to figure the
> idea out. Once I did. wow! Email heaven!

I'm more interested in organizing the hundreds of newsgroups and feeds I'd
like to follow instead of wasting time on the ad filled web. I'd just
like to group like minded usenet groups together.

Jens Schuessler

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:36:52 AM1/6/10
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* Frank A. <nomor...@spam.com> [06-01-10 11:18]:

Seriously, if talking about "hundreds of" I would really consider about using
a real feedreader and a real newsclient for comfort. This Opera toy is pain in
the ass for these things. Opera should browse, nothing else and reading more
than one usenet group with it's rudimentary client makes me sick.

Dapxin

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Jan 7, 2010, 5:14:12 PM1/7/10
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The few times I tried the newsreader too, tbh, I hated it.

But, I recognise too, most of Opera's beauty
in the end,
nearly always derive from its approach of simplicity...

I use google reader.

On Jan 6, 11:36 am, Jens Schuessler <j...@trash.net> wrote:
> * Frank A. <nomores...@spam.com> [06-01-10 11:18]:

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